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Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

Started byDistro Lackey <dl@lackey.com>
First post2026-06-22 13:14 +0000
Last post2026-06-23 22:18 +0000
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  Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-22 13:14 +0000
    Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 11:39 -0400
      Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-22 19:57 +0200
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 14:01 -0400
          OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-06-22 13:05 -0500
            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 14:22 -0400
              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:44 +0000
                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:52 -0400
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:24 -0500
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:30 -0400
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:43 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:38 +0200
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:58 +0100
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:06 +0200
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:22 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:33 +0200
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 23:37 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-23 00:43 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 20:48 -0400
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:54 +0000
            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:43 +0000
              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 18:46 -0400
                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0000
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:30 -0400
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 04:20 +0100
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:25 -0400
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 05:20 +0000
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:28 -0400
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:09 +0000
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 03:21 -0400
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:23 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 14:55 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:39 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:56 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:34 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:47 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-24 21:21 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-06-25 02:02 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 20:53 -0400
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 02:21 +0000
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:45 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:14 -0400
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:30 +0100
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-26 18:59 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:34 +0100
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:22 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:53 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:36 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:00 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:39 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:11 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:50 +0200
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:26 +0100
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:37 +0000
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 17:26 +0100
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:52 +0000
                                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:53 +0100
                                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 06:39 +0000
                                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 08:50 +0100
                                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 14:50 +0000
                                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 19:38 +0100
                                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 05:08 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2026-06-25 00:27 +0000
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 20:34 -0400
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2026-06-25 01:20 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 22:12 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Tim" <nosuchemail@quirkl.org> - 2026-06-25 02:42 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 22:46 -0400
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:33 +0100
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:05 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:08 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 03:38 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:29 +0100
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:08 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:33 +0100
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:45 +0200
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:01 +0100
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 12:24 -0400
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 19:03 +0200
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 15:08 -0500
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 22:26 +0200
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:43 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 15:44 -0500
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-23 21:03 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:25 -0500
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 22:07 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:51 -0400
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:50 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 02:24 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 05:51 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:44 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:03 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 14:55 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 21:55 +0100
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 19:40 -0400
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 10:23 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:42 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:54 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:14 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 14:59 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 05:49 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 07:31 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:23 +0000
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:54 +0100
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:35 +0000
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:53 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:42 +0000
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:12 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:29 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:28 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 17:24 +0100
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:55 +0000
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:56 +0100
                                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 06:45 +0000
                                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 09:32 +0100
                                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 14:49 +0000
                                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 19:37 +0100
                                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 05:09 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 22:12 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:26 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-24 20:59 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 07:25 -0400
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:42 +0000
            Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 17:20 -0400
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:51 -0400
    Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-23 04:31 -0400
      Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 20:48 +0000
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 21:17 +0000
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 22:18 +0000

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#88342 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-24 11:14 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111gam4$2sr2f$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88315
On 24/06/2026 02:54, CrudeSausage wrote:
> The mere fact that Carlos believes that it is wrong to think terrible 
> things of the left, the people who think it is alright to murder anyone 
> who disagrees with them, and who invited millions of murderous rapists 
> from Africa to take over our societies, is enough to deserve a permanent 
> place in my filter.

Carlos is not a bad person. He just thinks he is right. Because all the 
people he know think the same way.

Bandar Log-ic

"We all say i,  so it must be true".

He has never stopped to seriously think about any of it.

Fire example I too, took global warming for granted, till the windmills 
started to appear.
As a fully qualified electrical engineer and experience of accountancy 
and finance, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. You only needed to do 
a few calculations on the back of an envelope to see that of all the 
most useless ways to reduce atmospheric CO2, windmills and solar panels 
were it.

No one ever did that back of the envelope calculation, not till recently 
anyway.


And then the EU, bless its corrupt  little cotton socks, ruled that 
instead of a carbon tax, on fuel, there would be a 'renewable 
obligation' thereby ruling out the most obvious and cost effective route 
to decarbonisation. Nuclear power.

At that point I realised that 'renewable' energy at least, and quite 
possibly 'man made climate change' itself, were politically and 
commercially convenient lies.

They had to be, after Al Gore called it all an inconvenient truth And he 
was a politician...



-- 
“Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of 
a car with the cramped public exposure of 
an airplane.”

Dennis Miller

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#88358 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-06-24 14:59 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3c2915$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88342
On 2026-06-24 6:14 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/06/2026 02:54, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> The mere fact that Carlos believes that it is wrong to think terrible 
>> things of the left, the people who think it is alright to murder 
>> anyone who disagrees with them, and who invited millions of murderous 
>> rapists from Africa to take over our societies, is enough to deserve a 
>> permanent place in my filter.
> 
> Carlos is not a bad person. He just thinks he is right. Because all the 
> people he know think the same way.
> 
> Bandar Log-ic
> 
> "We all say i,  so it must be true".
> 
> He has never stopped to seriously think about any of it.
> 
> Fire example I too, took global warming for granted, till the windmills 
> started to appear.
> As a fully qualified electrical engineer and experience of accountancy 
> and finance, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. You only needed to do 
> a few calculations on the back of an envelope to see that of all the 
> most useless ways to reduce atmospheric CO2, windmills and solar pane
> 
> No one ever did that back of the envelope calculation, not till recently 
> anyway.
> 
> 
> And then the EU, bless its corrupt  little cotton socks, ruled that 
> instead of a carbon tax, on fuel, there would be a 'renewable 
> obligation' thereby ruling out the most obvious and cost effective route 
> to decarbonisation. Nuclear power.
> 
> At that point I realised that 'renewable' energy at least, and quite 
> possibly 'man made climate change' itself, were politically and 
> commercially convenient lies.
> 
> They had to be, after Al Gore called it all an inconvenient truth And he 
> was a politician...

All I can say for sure is that if ever something were truly an urgent 
problem, humanity would find an appropriate solution. Wind power fixes 
nothing, but creates a new problem in its constant need for de-icing and 
use of fossil fuels to do so. Solar power fixes nothing, but creates a 
new problem in its unrecyclable panels. If fossil fuels really do cause 
a significant issue for the world, a more realistic solution will 
emerge... and no, nuclear isn't it either.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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#88264 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 05:49 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<qEs_R.4520$DYH9.1417@fx40.iad>
In reply to#88260
On 6/23/2026 5:33 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:

>>> Emotional issue

>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is 
>> a you
>> issue.
> 
> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.


Says who?

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#88273 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-06-23 07:31 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3a6e7c$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88260
On 2026-06-23 5:33 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> Emotional issue
>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is 
>> a you
>> issue.
> 
> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.

Once the left realized that the majority of pedophiles lean left, they 
did everything in their power to defend them. That's part of why they 
embrace Islam so much, whose members often sexually assault people as 
young as twelve as they did in the French music festival a few days ago. 
Islam routinely votes for the left because of this protection, and even 
join the ranks of those political parties until they figure out that 
they can create their own. What's hilarious is the gratitude the Muslims 
show the left for their efforts protecting them: mass executions the 
moment they seize power.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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#88282 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 18:23 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3acf04$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88260
On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:

> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> Emotional issue
>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is a you
>> issue.
> 
> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.

Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults. Meanwhile Trump refuses to
release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- even as
infants.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88295 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-23 21:54 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111err1$2hojc$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88282
On 23/06/2026 19:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Emotional issue
>>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is a you
>>> issue.
>>
>> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.
> 
> Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults.

No, that's you. I sent a link to the issue.

>  Meanwhile Trump refuses to
> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- even as
> infants.
> 
Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.


-- 
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

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#88310 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-24 01:35 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3b345f$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88295
On Jun 23, 2026 at 1:54:57 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111err1$2hojc$8@dont-email.me>:

> On 23/06/2026 19:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> Emotional issue
>>>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is a you
>>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.
>> 
>> Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults.

You ignored this.
> 
> No, that's you. I sent a link to the issue.
> 
>>  Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- even as
>> infants.
>> 
> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.

Trump is what the American right wing has become.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88338 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-24 10:53 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111g9ek$2sr2f$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88310
On 24/06/2026 02:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2026 at 1:54:57 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111err1$2hojc$8@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 23/06/2026 19:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>>> <111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> Emotional issue
>>>>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is a you
>>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.
>>>
>>> Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults.
> 
> You ignored this.
>>
>> No, that's you. I sent a link to the issue.
>>
>>>   Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- even as
>>> infants.
>>>
>> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.
> 
> Trump is what the American right wing has become.
> 
No, its what has usurped the right wing and pushed the conservatives 
aside, in the same way the Marxists and profiteers were allowed to take 
over the Left.

Your political system is rotten to the core and under the control of 
foreign money

While you scream hatred at each other to support one total cunt over 
another bunch of total cunts.

All claiming the moral high ground.

It would be pathetic if it wasn't so laughable.


-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#88403 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-25 18:42 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3d7685$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88338
On Jun 24, 2026 at 2:53:24 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111g9ek$2sr2f$7@dont-email.me>:

> On 24/06/2026 02:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 1:54:57 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111err1$2hojc$8@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 23/06/2026 19:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>>>> <111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> Emotional issue
>>>>>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional" that is a you
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly acceptable behviour.
>>>> 
>>>> Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults.
>> 
>> You ignored this.
>>> 
>>> No, that's you. I sent a link to the issue.
>>> 
>>>>   Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>>>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- even as
>>>> infants.
>>>> 
>>> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.
>> 
>> Trump is what the American right wing has become.
>> 
> No, its what has usurped the right wing

Right... he has usurped it. MAGA and the right wing are now in many cases one
and the same.

It is fair to say the "left" is also the Democrats -- and I would argue there
is a better left movement. But I think both parties are horrid. There are of
course people on the right who reject MAGA. Thankfully. But even then, right
wing thinking still tends to do what MAGA does and look to feelings over
evidence.

>  and pushed the conservatives
> aside, in the same way the Marxists and profiteers were allowed to take
> over the Left.

This is not at all true.
> 
> Your political system is rotten to the core and under the control of
> foreign money

That I agree with.
> 
> While you scream hatred at each other to support one total cunt over
> another bunch of total cunts.

No argument here. Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
clearly and objectively far worse.

> 
> All claiming the moral high ground.
> 
> It would be pathetic if it wasn't so laughable.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88409 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromKevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-25 21:12 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<20260625211220.14afb5e9@weed>
In reply to#88403
On 25 Jun 2026 18:42:13 GMT
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 24, 2026 at 2:53:24 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111g9ek$2sr2f$7@dont-email.me>:
> 
> > On 24/06/2026 02:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:  
> >> On Jun 23, 2026 at 1:54:57 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> >> <111err1$2hojc$8@dont-email.me>:
> >>   
> >>> On 23/06/2026 19:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:  
> >>>> On Jun 23, 2026 at 2:33:33 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher"
> >>>> wrote <111djtd$253r2$5@dont-email.me>:
> >>>>   
> >>>>> On 23/06/2026 08:08, Brock McNuggets wrote:  
> >>>>>>> Emotional issue  
> >>>>>> Well, if you see not backing pedophiles as merely "emotional"
> >>>>>> that is a you issue.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The left in this country see paedophilia as perfectly
> >>>>> acceptable behviour.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Notice you feel the need to lie to push insults.  
> >> 
> >> You ignored this.  
> >>> 
> >>> No, that's you. I sent a link to the issue.
> >>>   
> >>>>   Meanwhile Trump refuses to
> >>>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own
> >>>> daughters -- even as infants.
> >>>>   
> >>> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.  
> >> 
> >> Trump is what the American right wing has become.
> >>   
> > No, its what has usurped the right wing  
> 
> Right... 

You are insane.
Get help.

-- 
Kevin

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#88422 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-26 10:29 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111lgp1$ct47$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88403
On 25/06/2026 19:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
> clearly and objectively far worse.

That depends on your POV and what you consider 'important'

And that is a far more intelligent and nuanced conversation to have.

-- 
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of 
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

    -  John K Galbraith

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#88426 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-26 14:28 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3e8c9d$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88422
On Jun 26, 2026 at 2:29:05 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111lgp1$ct47$9@dont-email.me>:

> On 25/06/2026 19:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
>> clearly and objectively far worse.
> 
> That depends on your POV and what you consider 'important'

Equal rights and evidence based policies.

And by that criteria it is not even close. Not that the Democrats are good.
They are not. But they are not fascist oligarchs pushing echoes of Nazi
Germany.

> 
> And that is a far more intelligent and nuanced conversation to have.

Sure.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88428 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-26 17:24 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111m939$ln8p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88426
On 26/06/2026 15:28, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2026 at 2:29:05 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111lgp1$ct47$9@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 25/06/2026 19:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
>>> clearly and objectively far worse.
>>
>> That depends on your POV and what you consider 'important'
> 
> Equal rights and evidence based policies.
ROFLMAO

As usual what the left says is in fact diametrically opposed to what it 
actually does.

Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time 
offenders,.

For example

> 
> And by that criteria it is not even close. Not that the Democrats are good.
> They are not. But they are not fascist oligarchs pushing echoes of Nazi
> Germany.
> 
Bo, they tend toward the Chairman Mao and Pol Pot way of doig things

>>
>> And that is a far more intelligent and nuanced conversation to have.
> 
> Sure.
> 

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#88431 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-26 17:55 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3ebd21$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88428
On Jun 26, 2026 at 9:24:09 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111m939$ln8p$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 26/06/2026 15:28, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2026 at 2:29:05 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111lgp1$ct47$9@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 25/06/2026 19:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
>>>> clearly and objectively far worse.
>>> 
>>> That depends on your POV and what you consider 'important'
>> 
>> Equal rights and evidence based policies.

> ROFLMAO
> 
> As usual what the left says is in fact diametrically opposed to what it
> actually does.

I am not speaking of others but myself. Not there can be reasoned disagreement
on how to best promote either of those things... but those principles are
important to me.
> 
> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
> offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

Many countries focus on rehabilitation for many types of crimes with great
success. For some crimes rehabilitation seems unlikely or impossible -- but
even then life in prison is generally cheaper than the death penalty, and not
as permanent for times there are mistakes.
> 
> For example
> 
>> 
>> And by that criteria it is not even close. Not that the Democrats are good.
>> They are not. But they are not fascist oligarchs pushing echoes of Nazi
>> Germany.
>> 
> Bo, they tend toward the Chairman Mao and Pol Pot way of doig things
> 

Give specific examples -- ones backed by large swaths of Democrats (as MAGA is
backed by a large number of Republicans). Be aware I will be asking for
polling data or the like to back your claim. Remember, for me evidence is very
important.

>>> 
>>> And that is a far more intelligent and nuanced conversation to have.
>> 
>> Sure.
>> 


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88437 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-26 21:56 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88431
On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>> offenders,.
> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review - that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
"We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#88449 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-27 06:45 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3f717c$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88437
On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:

> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>> offenders,.
>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
> 
> You don't really need peer review -

You are going with feelings. OK.

> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.

You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.

> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
> 
> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.
> 
> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
method. Nor will you. That is clear.

As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:

* Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
crime:
  https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime

* Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
recidivism:
  https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

* Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
recidivism
  An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#88451 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-27 09:32 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111o1qs$14qc4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88449
On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>> offenders,.
>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>
>> You don't really need peer review -
> 
> You are going with feelings. OK.
> 
Mo. You are

>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
> 
> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
> 
No, you are

>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
> 
> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a 
punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple 
expedient of repealing all laws.

Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people 
breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime


>>
>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
> 
> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no 
such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.

Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group? 
And so on.
Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

>>
>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
> 
> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
> 
I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better' 
method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to 
measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a 
scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact 
being made 'better' compared with what?

You talk pure Libtard advertising speak.

"Persil washes whiter". (Than what? distilled engine oil?)
"Nothing works faster than Aspirin" (So why not use nothing, instead)
"Drink Brawndo: it's got electrolytes"

Let me collect the full text of the Bandar Log. whom you so closely 
resemble.

"A great roofless palace crowned the hill, and the marble of the 
courtyards and the fountains was split, and stained with red and green, 
and the very cobblestones in the courtyard where the king’s elephants 
used to live had been thrust up and apart by grasses and young trees. 
 From the palace you could see the rows and rows of roofless houses that 
made up the city looking like empty honeycombs filled with blackness; 
the shapeless block of stone that had been an idol in the square where 
four roads met; the pits and dimples at street corners where the public 
wells once stood, and the shattered domes of temples with wild figs 
sprouting on their sides. The monkeys called the place their city, and 
pretended to despise the Jungle-People because they lived in the forest. 
And yet they never knew what the buildings were made for nor how to use 
them. They would sit in circles on the hall of the king’s council 
chamber, and scratch for fleas and pretend to be men; or they would run 
in and out of the roofless houses and collect pieces of plaster and old 
bricks in a corner, and forget where they had hidden them, and fight and 
cry in scuffling crowds, and then break off to play up and down the 
terraces of the king’s garden, where they would shake the rose trees and 
the oranges in sport to see the fruit and flowers fall. They explored 
all the passages and dark tunnels in the palace and the hundreds of 
little dark rooms, but they never remembered what they had seen and what 
they had not; and so drifted about in ones and twos or crowds telling 
each other that they were doing as men did. They drank at the tanks and 
made the water all muddy, and then they fought over it, and then they 
would all rush together in mobs and shout: “There is no one in the 
jungle so wise and good and clever and strong and gentle as the 
Bandar-log.” Then all would begin again till they grew tired of the city 
and went back to the tree-tops, hoping the Jungle-People would notice 
them."...

In this passage we see the basic essence of the Bandar Log. The pretend 
to live in a city they didn't build, which they have no real knowledge 
of,. Just as Liberals today live in a technological  society that they 
have no knowledge of, and didnt build.

And like the Bandar Log, they cover their ignorance my making a huge 
noise, chattering and praising each other, and saying how wonderful they 
are and throwing dung at anyone who dioesn't live in the trees like they do.

..."Sore, sleepy, and hungry as he was, Mowgli could not help laughing 
when the Bandar-log began, twenty at a time, to tell him how great and 
wise and strong and gentle they were, and how foolish he was to wish to 
leave them. “We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the 
most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must 
be true," they shouted. “Now as you are a new listener and can carry our 
words back to the Jungle-People so that they may notice us in future, we 
will tell you all about our most excellent selves." Mowgli made no 
objection, and the monkeys gathered by hundreds and hundreds on the 
terrace to listen to their own speakers singing the praises of the 
Bandar-log, and whenever a speaker stopped for want of breath they would 
all shout together: “This is true; we all say so.” Mowgli nodded and 
blinked, and said “Yes” when they asked him a question, and his head 
spun with the noise. “Tabaqui the Jackal must have bitten all these 
people,” he said to himself, “and now they have madness. Certainly this 
is dewanee, the madness. Do they never go to sleep? Now there is a cloud 
coming to cover that moon. If it were only a big enough cloud I might 
try to run away in the darkness. But I am tired.”

Her we see the true essence of the Bandar Log. They are not really 
interested in facts, or reality, or anything. They are only interested 
in self importance. So they tell themselves how fantastic they are and 
then assume that because they all are saying the same thing, it must be 
true. This is called 'peer review' in today's most modernism.
Underlying it is the metaphysiocs of the narcissist. "The  truth is a 
social construct". That is, they *believe* that the only real thing is 
what people think or can be persuaded to think, is real.

Hence the slogans. 'Black lives matter!' 'Climate Denier'! 'fascist' 
'racist' ''capitalist' 'Planet friendly' 'saving the planet' 'saving the 
children' (from exactly what is never, of course specified).

Facts are not, as Wittgenstein remarked 'whatever is the case' - No., 
Facts are *what  everyone agrees they are* using a scientific practice - 
peer review - for something it was never intended.

it doesn't matter what 98% of scientists think it it is in fact wrong.

But the woke Left have no concept of objective reality. Reality is what 
they say it is, and that's that.

Discovered not by experiment, but by opinion poll marketing survey and 
peer review.



> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
> 
> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
> crime:
>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
> 
> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
> recidivism:
>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
> 
> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
> recidivism
>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
> 

Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that 
murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison 
isn't there to 'cure' people. Its there to remove people from society.

The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be 
sent to prison at all.
Then There wont be any recidivism.

Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a 
coherent society.


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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
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#88456 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-27 14:49 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3fe308$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88451
On Jun 27, 2026 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111o1qs$14qc4$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>>> offenders,.
>>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>> 
>>> You don't really need peer review -
>> 
>> You are going with feelings. OK.
>> 
> Mo. You are

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. That is boring.
> 
>>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
>> 
>> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
>> 
> No, you are

You did it again.
> 
>>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
>> 
>> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
>> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
> I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
> There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a
> punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple
> expedient of repealing all laws.
> 
> Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people
> breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime

You are missing the point. I am not focused on laws -- but on how to improve
equal rights. I back evidence based policies to do that.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
>> 
>> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.
> 
> You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no
> such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.
> 
> Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group?
> And so on.
> Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

Note how you just babble rage bate. Not very exciting.
> 
>>> 
>>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
>> 
>> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
>> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
>> 
> I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better'
> method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to
> measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a
> scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact
> being made 'better' compared with what?

Your goal seems just to try to get people engaged.

...
> 
>> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
>> 
>> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
>> crime:
>>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
>> 
>> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
>> recidivism:
>>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
>> 
>> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
>> recidivism
>>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
>> 
> 
> Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that
> murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison
> isn't there to 'cure' people. It's there to remove people from society.

What is your overall goal? Your value?
> 
> The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be
> sent to prison at all.
> Then There wont be any recidivism.

That is not true. That would not be the best way to support equal rights and
this is not tied to my views.
> 
> Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a
> coherent society.

You are just looking to engage -- not to be reasoned or logical.

-- 
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#88461 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-27 19:37 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111p59t$354ha$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88456
On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> What is your overall goal? Your value?

What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?
Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no 
experience of real life think they ought to have.,
Grown ups know better


-- 
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, 
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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#88475 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-28 05:09 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a40ac85$1$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#88461
On Jun 27, 2026 at 11:37:49 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111p59t$354ha$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> What is your overall goal? Your value?
> 
> What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?

Others may or may not -- I do ... and you make it clear you do not have any...
at least meaningful ones.

> Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no
> experience of real life think they ought to have.,
> Grown ups know better


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