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Re: Who knows `ps` well?

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In article <ke8kl2$nau$3@dont-email.me>, J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote: 

> On Tuesday, January 29th, 2013, at 08:53:44h +0000, Chris Glurr burbled:
> 
> > Actually `ps` and related utilities that can help show:
> >  which workSpace/s [in X] have got a running `links`.
> 
> ps cannot tell you on which desktop workspace an application is running.

Not DIRECTLY. It requires some thought/effort.
> 
> ps has no concept of X11, desktops, or workspaces.
> 
Mandrake 9: KDE3: `pstree -p` shows
the VTs grouped per Desktop.
`pgrep links` shows all links; but isn't needed since you can SEE
the links [and any other pid] on the 'branch' of pstree.

I wrote a script to list the <path> of all `mc`, as explained further below.
   lsof | grep <pid of mc>
lead to the list of <mc paths>.

Then later versions of KDE couldn't use it.
 
> One of the few things which can indicate how to get to a workspace
> with a particular running application is the desktop/window manager
> "show windows" menu, and only if the application is of course an X11
> application, not something running within an X terminal emulator.
> 
> > I don't know the details of what I'm doing.
> 
> That has been obvious to most discerning readers of your postings
> for a long time.
> 
If you're a stalker, you may want to go to the kiddies SOCIAL network.
This forum is for adults to exchange TECHNICAL info independant of 
names and personalities.

> > But hopefully the fields: DEVICE, NAME can point to the WorkSpace.
> 
> No they cannot do that directly.
We're not expecting a DIRECT answer, like you'd get from the 'man'
==========
Chris Davies writes:-

> You could try something like "xwininfo -name links" and see if you
> can derive any information from the geometry fields (Absolute position
> vs Corners). The other one to try is "xwininfo -root -tree". But since
> I don't know what you're trying to achieve it's pretty difficult to give
> a specific answer.

That's seems interesting for other puposes.

Here's what's trying to be achieved.
To know which book and page knows about a topic-type.

Or:
your work-room has 4 columns and 6 rows of work-benches.
When you start, with no work-benches equiped, a
Japanese task arrives. You call out the door for a Japanes-translator,
  who comes in and takes up any random free work-bench.
When a Spanish task arrives, you want to know if/where any
Spanish-translator are located, to pass the task to.
Etc. for each type of task. 

In computing work-flow-terms, you don't want to launch a new
mc on <pathN>, when there's already one available.

Obviously the system knows what proccesses are running.
And `ps` is the heart of that knowledge.
And `lsof` is the center of knowledge of what <paths> any
process may be 'looking-at'.

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Who knows `ps` well? Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-01-29 08:53 +0000
  Re: Who knows `ps` well? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-01-29 14:00 +0000
    Re: Who knows `ps` well? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-02-02 17:10 +0000
    Re: Who knows `ps` well? Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-02-03 13:11 +0000
      Re: Who knows `ps` well? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-02-03 15:06 +0000
        Re: Who knows `ps` well? Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-02-05 09:36 +0000
          Re: Who knows `ps` well? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-02-05 15:17 +0000
            Re: Who knows `ps` well? Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-02-06 18:50 +0000
            Re: Who knows `ps` well? Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com - 2013-02-07 05:14 +0000
              How to use wmctrl to switch to a window on another workspace with an EMWH compliant window manager J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-02-07 15:58 +0000
  Re: Who knows `ps` well? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-01-29 17:19 +0000
  Re: Who knows `ps` well? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-02-05 08:09 -0800

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