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Re: Re (3): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'?

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Re (3): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'?
Date 2012-02-11 11:40 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <ic8vk9pblw.fsf@home.home> (permalink)
References <4f3387a6$0$8212$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <jh62ts$glm$1@dont-email.me>

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no.top.post@gmail.com writes:

> In article <4f3387a6$0$8212$426a34cc@news.free.fr>, Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> wrote: 
>
>> Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:23:02 +0000, no.top.post did cat:
>> 
>> if your question still is
>> where/how you can click/run whatever anytime anyhow the GENERAL answer
>> is, as always, simply 'it depends'.
>> 
> OK, so there's no proper method.
> This looks like a task for the UNO-like-Debian-committee.
>  ---------
>> > That gives me more info on<qt>  specifically, but doesn't answer
>> > the GENERAL question: "HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'?"
>> >
>> > Take another example: pango.
>> > I could do: `whatis pango` ; `apropos pango` and perhps I'd
>> > get info to know: 1. what it does&  2. how to call it ??

I have a pretty good idea what pango does and it mostly operates
under the covers.

But if I type pango on the command line and press tab,
I find I have 2 executables start start with the string pango.
One has a man page.  The other is self explanatory if you run it.

So then I did:

locate pango

and I found /usr/share/doc/pango-1.29.4/README

which pretty much tells all.

>  ---------> Tauno Voipio wrote:-
>> Did you ever Google for 'pango?
>> 
> I'm going to a isolated location with no access to google, and want
> to have a professional rather than ad-hoc/monkey method.
> Of course asking on USEnet is the ultimate ad-hoc method,
> after all else fails.

Google is a monkey method.  Someone tell the chimps.
Really you can use Usenet but not Google?

Nice trick.

> Keith Keller wrote:-
>> Is it possible that what you're looking for is not an executable (i.e.,
>> not a program)?  On my Slackware 13.0 system, qt is a directory in 
>> /usr/lib.
>> 
> Yes I gradually got that impression. But I was asking myself "what is this
> BIG thing, and how can I test it?" But it's not about Qt only. It's obvious
> that all apps must be callable, other than by kliking a menu.

Well, we just covered Pango.
As far as qt, well it looks like I have a huge amount of qt stuff
in /usr/share/doc/qt.  But for a real low-down install the qt demo package.

>> IIRC, I see you post on alt.os.linux.slackware.  You can grep through
>> the files in /var/log/packages to find out what package installed a
>> particular file, and what other files (e.g., programs) were installed by
>> the same package.  If you're using another distro, the package manager
>> usually has an option to tell you what package installed a particular
>> file.
>> -- 
> Ok, that would be an elaborate way of of finding out why/what all
> the <qt> files are for. But imagine 'you met some one on the bus, who
> said "if you've got the full XYZ installation, you should try app: dog."
> But when you get to your machine you can't find how to execute dog!

Assuming I can't find dog in a menu,
I'd open a terminal and type dog, then a tab.

> Now I'm satisfied that there are no simple solutions to this.
> The debian commitee will fix it?

Ahh, beg to differ.  Simple solutions come with persistence.

-- 
Dan Espen

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HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-02-06 08:21 +0000
  Re: HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2012-02-06 12:47 +0000
    Re (2): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-02-09 06:23 +0000
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2012-02-09 08:45 +0000
        Re (3): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-02-11 15:53 +0000
          Re: Re (3): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2012-02-11 11:40 -0500
          Re: Re (3): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2012-02-13 02:06 +0100
      Re: Re (2): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-02-09 21:07 +0200
        Re: Re (2): HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2012-02-09 11:48 -0800
  Re: HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2012-02-06 14:00 +0000
  Re: HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-02-06 15:38 +0000
  Re: HOW2 find an app's 'call-name'? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2012-02-10 20:36 +0100

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