Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon
Date	2026-08-07 19:32 +0200
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On 2026-08-07 19:13, Robert Riches wrote:
> On 2026-08-07, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-08-07 13:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/08/2026 23:40, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I am always slightly amused by how backwards the USA is, Back in the
>>> nineties I was on holiday and wanted to withdraw some money using my
>>> MasterCard, I think we were on Nevada. The teller looked at the card and
>>> said 'never seen one of those. I'll try'. Then her face lit up. 'It
>>> worked!' she said.
>>>
>>> I had used that card all over Europe n different countries....
>>>
>>> Things that amuse me
>>>
>>> - All wires are overhead. NO new wires are overhead in the UK
>>> - All trucks use solid rear axles with cart springs. I haven't driven a
>>> vehicle  like that since 1980
>>> - broadband internet access doesn't really exist mostly.
>>> - You have to *pay* for an ambulance,
>>
>> Recently it was on the news a guy that was having a walk in the
>> countryside, a nurse. Somehow he fell or something, and his walking
>> stick got stuck on his belly, not the centre, but the side. Instead of
>> phoning rescue, he walked down, some 17 km, for fear of being ripped out
>> by the cost of rescue.
>>
>> Amazing.
> 
> It sounds like you're referring to this story:
> 
> https://notthebee.com/article/american-man-hikes-10-miles-down-mountain-with-pole-through-side-to-avoid-pricey-medical-bill
> 
> It wasn't an ordinary ambulance ride he was avoiding:
> 
>       As a nurse, he is likely aware that
>       being airlifted to an emergency
>       room would be a $20,000-$50,000
>       bill.
> 
>       Since he wasn't losing much blood,
>       he decided to hike down and drive
>       himself to the hospital.
> 
>       ...
> 
>       After determining that he had not
>       punctured a lung or another organ,
>       David's friends Brad and Jess
>       helped him get down Granite Peak
>       and they called search and rescue
>       on their sat phone.
> 
> Is helicopter rescue "free" in countries with socialized
> medicine?
> 
I'll ask chatGPT because I'm not sure. I only know about Spain, and yes, 
it is usually gratis if the emergency is true and not caused by 
negligence (like being stranded in a snow storm without having snow 
clothes and some food).

Q: Is helicopter rescue free in the European Union? Say, somebody 
impaled with a walking stick up in a mountain.

A: No. There is **no European Union-wide rule** that makes helicopter 
mountain rescue free or paid. Each country—and sometimes each region—has 
its own rules. The EU regulates aviation safety, but not who pays for 
rescue. ([Eur-Lex][1])

For your example—someone is impaled by a walking stick while hiking high 
in the mountains—the priority is to call the emergency services 
immediately. Whether a helicopter is dispatched depends on medical need, 
terrain, weather, and availability, not on the person's ability to pay.

The billing varies considerably:

* **France:** Mountain rescue outside ski resorts is generally funded by 
the state, so the casualty is usually not billed. ([Reddit][2])
* **Austria:** Air rescue after leisure mountain accidents may result in 
substantial bills (often thousands of euros), although medical insurance 
may cover part of the cost depending on the circumstances. 
([europakonsument.at][3])
* **Switzerland** (not in the EU): Rescue is commonly chargeable unless 
covered by insurance or membership in a rescue organization. 
([Wikipedia][4])
* **Italy:** Rules vary by region. Serious medical emergencies may be 
covered, but rescues resulting from unnecessary risk-taking, being 
stranded without injury, or ignoring trail closures can lead to 
significant charges. Recent cases have involved bills of many thousands 
of euros. ([The Guardian][5])
* **Spain:** Policies differ by autonomous community. Many genuine 
emergency rescues are publicly funded, but some regions can recover 
costs in cases of negligence or prohibited activities. ([El País][6])

For hikers and climbers, it's common to carry travel insurance or join 
an alpine club that includes mountain rescue coverage. The annual cost 
is often far less than a single helicopter rescue.

So if someone is **seriously injured**—for example, impaled and unable 
to be evacuated safely on foot—the rescue service will generally 
dispatch whatever resources are appropriate. The question of payment is 
dealt with afterward, and the answer depends entirely on where the 
accident occurred and the local rules.

[1]: 
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1020&utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"Implementing regulation - 2023/1020 - EN - EUR-Lex"
[2]: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mountaineering/comments/1klixk4?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"PSA: Mountain Rescue in the French Alps is Free*."
[3]: 
https://europakonsument.at/en/page/air-rescue?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"Air rescue | Europäisches Verbraucherzentrum Österreich"
[4]: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_rescue?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"Mountain rescue"
[5]: 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/04/rescued-british-hiker-billed-14225-for-ignoring-rockslide-signs-in-dolomites?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"Rescued British hiker billed €14,225 for ignoring rockslide signs in 
Dolomites"
[6]: 
https://elpais.com/politica/2015/12/23/actualidad/1450872907_889964.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
"Un rescate en helicóptero de un montañero cuesta unos 4.000 euros | 
Política | EL PAÍS"

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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