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Hybrid drives

Started by"Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com>
First post2014-05-16 20:46 +0100
Last post2014-06-01 11:07 +0200
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  Hybrid drives "Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 20:46 +0100
    Re: Hybrid drives Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2014-05-16 20:01 -0500
    Re: Hybrid drives Carpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com> - 2014-05-17 08:43 +0200
      Re: Hybrid drives "Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 23:03 +0100
        Re: Hybrid drives Carpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com> - 2014-05-18 06:57 +0200
          Re: Hybrid drives JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:53 -0500
            Re: Hybrid drives "Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 22:45 +0100
              Re: Hybrid drives philo  <philo@privacy.net> - 2014-05-30 07:05 -0500
                Re: Hybrid drives Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.invalid> - 2014-06-01 11:07 +0200

#2375 — Hybrid drives

From"Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-16 20:46 +0100
SubjectHybrid drives
Message-ID<1400269581@f1.n250.z2.fidonet.ftn>
Hello All!

Has anyone installed a Seagate Hydrid drive e.g., 1Tb with 8Gb SSD built
in.

Is it working correctly?

I am having problems both for Linux and Windows 7.

Get silly little problems that do not happen with a HDD.

Vince

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#2376

FromRobert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid>
Date2014-05-16 20:01 -0500
Message-ID<ll6cct$bqg$1@omega-3a.local>
In reply to#2375
On 05/16/2014 02:46 PM, Vince Coen wrote:
> Has anyone installed a Seagate Hydrid drive e.g., 1Tb with 8Gb SSD built
> in.
>
> Is it working correctly?
>
> I am having problems both for Linux and Windows 7.
>
> Get silly little problems that do not happen with a HDD.

I have a 500GB one in my laptop -- dual boot Linux and Windows 7.
Never had a problem with it. Quite noticeably faster than a plain,
spinning drive.

-- 
Bob Nichols         AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"

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#2377

FromCarpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com>
Date2014-05-17 08:43 +0200
Message-ID<ll70en$m8o$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2375
Vince Coen schreef op 16/05/2014 21:46:
> Hello All!
>
> Has anyone installed a Seagate Hydrid drive e.g., 1Tb with 8Gb SSD built
> in.
>
> Is it working correctly?
>
> I am having problems both for Linux and Windows 7.
>
> Get silly little problems that do not happen with a HDD.
>
> Vince
>
>
What kind op problems?

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#2378

From"Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-17 23:03 +0100
Message-ID<1400364190@f1.n250.z2.fidonet.ftn>
In reply to#2377
Hello Carpe!

Saturday May 17 2014 07:43, Carpe Diem wrote to All:

 > Vince Coen schreef op 16/05/2014 21:46:
 >> Hello All!
 >>
 >> Has anyone installed a Seagate Hydrid drive e.g., 1Tb with 8Gb SSD
 >> built in.
 >>
 >> Is it working correctly?
 >>
 >> I am having problems both for Linux and Windows 7.
 >>
 >> Get silly little problems that do not happen with a HDD.
 >>
 >> Vince
 >>
 >>
 > What kind op problems?

Current one is that updates fail with no update service active when it is
active and have tried to disable and then enable but with no affect.

Wierdly enough using the original HDD a 160Gb (without any such problems) I
cloned it to the Hybrid and booted it then checked for updates but it
reported the same.  Even more weird tried the same from the original HDD to
a new SDD (256Gb) and it did the same.

I have absolutely no iea what is going on or how to fix it other than to
install a fresh copy of Win 7 but as there is a lot of apps on it would
clearly prefer not to :)



Vince

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#2379

FromCarpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com>
Date2014-05-18 06:57 +0200
Message-ID<ll9ekj$f5p$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#2378
> I have absolutely no iea what is going on or how to fix it other than to
> install a fresh copy of Win 7 but as there is a lot of apps on it would
> clearly prefer not to :)
>
More than a year ago, I installed a Seagate hybrid drive in the PC of a 
friend of mine. No problems at all BUT we did a clean install.
I have no idea what is going on. Sorry, I cannot help you.

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#2382

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2014-05-19 10:53 -0500
Message-ID<slrnlnka72.uca.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#2379
On 2014-05-18, Carpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com> wrote:
>> I have absolutely no iea what is going on or how to fix it other than to
>> install a fresh copy of Win 7 but as there is a lot of apps on it would
>> clearly prefer not to :)
>>
> More than a year ago, I installed a Seagate hybrid drive in the PC of a 
> friend of mine. No problems at all BUT we did a clean install.
> I have no idea what is going on. Sorry, I cannot help you.
>

    I have a hybrid drive running on a Win7 laptop and it's not exhibited
any sort of problems.

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#2383

From"Vince Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-19 22:45 +0100
Message-ID<1400535910@f1.n250.z2.fidonet.ftn>
In reply to#2382
Hello JEDIDIAH and others who responded!

Monday May 19 2014 16:53, JEDIDIAH wrote to All:

 > On 2014-05-18, Carpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com> wrote:
 >>> I have absolutely no iea what is going on or how to fix it other
 >>> than to install a fresh copy of Win 7 but as there is a lot of apps
 >>> on it would clearly prefer not to :)
 >>>
 >> More than a year ago, I installed a Seagate hybrid drive in the PC
 >> of a friend of mine. No problems at all BUT we did a clean install.
 >> I have no idea what is going on. Sorry, I cannot help you.
 >>

 >     I have a hybrid drive running on a Win7 laptop and it's not
 > exhibited any sort of problems.

OK, I am getting the impression that it is NOT a HDD issue but Windows.

Currently downloading SP1 and going to try that along with a grab from a
command batch file shown (but not producing results so far).

I am going off Windows

again




Vince

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#2407

Fromphilo  <philo@privacy.net>
Date2014-05-30 07:05 -0500
Message-ID<lm9s6f$727$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2383
On 05/19/2014 04:45 PM, Vince Coen wrote:
> Hello JEDIDIAH and others who responded!
>
> Monday May 19 2014 16:53, JEDIDIAH wrote to All:
>
>   > On 2014-05-18, Carpe Diem <carpe.diem@news.com> wrote:
>   >>> I have absolutely no iea what is going on or how to fix it other
>   >>> than to install a fresh copy of Win 7 but as there is a lot of apps
>   >>> on it would clearly prefer not to :)
>   >>>
>   >> More than a year ago, I installed a Seagate hybrid drive in the PC
>   >> of a friend of mine. No problems at all BUT we did a clean install.
>   >> I have no idea what is going on. Sorry, I cannot help you.
>   >>
>
>   >     I have a hybrid drive running on a Win7 laptop and it's not
>   > exhibited any sort of problems.
>
> OK, I am getting the impression that it is NOT a HDD issue but Windows.
>
> Currently downloading SP1 and going to try that along with a grab from a
> command batch file shown (but not producing results so far).
>
> I am going off Windows
>
> again
>
>
>
>
> Vince
>
>



I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and my hybrid works with no problems...

OTOH: It does not seem to be any faster than a standard drive.

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#2411

FromPoutnik <poutnik@privacy.invalid>
Date2014-06-01 11:07 +0200
Message-ID<MPG.2df50bb9aff8b2aecac@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2407
philo  posted Fri, 30 May 2014 07:05:35 -0500
> 
> 
> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and my hybrid works with no problems...
> OTOH: It does not seem to be any faster than a standard drive.

Perhaps there is good enough Ubuntu read access to disk 
even without hybrid SSD Read caching.

Better system = smaller difference.

Perhaps Ubuntu has good enough own Read caching,
or reads less than Windows,
or disk is fast enough.

Linux installation is often much smaller than Windows
so lower ratio for access/tranfer times.

Linux file systems are also not so crazy as NTFS,
able to create several thousands fragments for a file.


-- 
Poutnik

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