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  HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-20 20:26 +0000
    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 20:35 +0000
      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-20 21:10 +0000
        Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 21:41 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 21:49 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-20 22:47 +0000
            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:07 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2012-01-20 22:50 +0000
            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:12 +0000
              Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:25 +0000
                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-21 16:05 +0000
                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 18:29 +0000
                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 18:40 +0000
                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-21 21:43 +0000
                      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 23:55 +0000
                        Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 01:14 +0000
                          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-22 03:23 +0000
                            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 04:04 +0000
                              Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-01-22 13:02 +0100
                                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 14:54 +0000
                                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-22 17:41 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-22 17:55 +0000
                                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 18:07 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 18:02 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-01-22 20:01 +0100
      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-21 19:23 +0000
    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS TheGunslinger <mikiesrunsbaal.sec@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-01-21 11:34 -0800

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#998 — HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS

I suppose I could test this by installing XP on a hard drive to see what 
XP does with it...

Does anyone know if the PNY VCG84512D3SPPB video card will produce sound 
on the monitor when connected via an HDMI cable?

It does not for me when the proprietary NVIDIA 290.10 drivers are 
loaded, but I wonder if that's because I've messed up.

If it matters, this video card is PCI, not Express.
--
buck

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#999

buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> I suppose I could test this by installing XP on a hard drive to see what 
> XP does with it...
> 
> Does anyone know if the PNY VCG84512D3SPPB video card will produce sound 
> on the monitor when connected via an HDMI cable?
> 
> It does not for me when the proprietary NVIDIA 290.10 drivers are 
> loaded, but I wonder if that's because I've messed up.
> 
> If it matters, this video card is PCI, not Express.
> --
> buck

I can't help with your specific problem, but I can tell you
that I have spent months, off and on, trying to get sound
from my NVidia video card. I know that the card is capable
of hdmi sound out because someone here has posted that his
identical card does output sound. Nothing for me, I have
tried buying a different mother board even.

I thought that if it were merely screwing up some config
file then I could get sound if I booted up Knoppix:
nope no sound there either.

I tried defeating the onboard sound, no luck.

Nothing I have done with alsaconfig has made any difference.
I can see the correct modules are loaded, still no sound.

I wish you the best of luck. Post here if you succeed.

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#1000

On Friday, January 20th, 2012, at 20:35:52h +0000, rOOt explained:

> but I can tell you that I have spent months, off and on,
> trying to get sound from my NVidia video card.

And did you connect a cable from the SPDIF digital out pins of your
sound card or mainboard sound to the SPDIF digital in pins of your 
nVidia graphics card?

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#1001

J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
> On Friday, January 20th, 2012, at 20:35:52h +0000, rOOt explained:
> 
>> but I can tell you that I have spent months, off and on,
>> trying to get sound from my NVidia video card.
> 
> And did you connect a cable from the SPDIF digital out pins of your
> sound card or mainboard sound to the SPDIF digital in pins of your 
> nVidia graphics card?


Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My
video card is an EVGA GeForce 210. I just took the card out
and I don't see any place that an external cable could be 
connected to the card. My card is exactly the same as the
one that someone (Terry?) said worked for him.

BTW, when I disabled motherboard sound, alsaconf only
sees SPDIF sound out for NVidia.

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#1002

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>> On Friday, January 20th, 2012, at 20:35:52h +0000, rOOt explained:
>> 
>>> but I can tell you that I have spent months, off and on,
>>> trying to get sound from my NVidia video card.
>> 
>> And did you connect a cable from the SPDIF digital out pins of your
>> sound card or mainboard sound to the SPDIF digital in pins of your 
>> nVidia graphics card?
> 
> 
> Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My
> video card is an EVGA GeForce 210. I just took the card out
> and I don't see any place that an external cable could be 
> connected to the card. My card is exactly the same as the
> one that someone (Terry?) said worked for him.
> 
> BTW, when I disabled motherboard sound, alsaconf only
> sees SPDIF sound out for NVidia.


Follow up to the FU: Newegg still sells the EVGA card.
On this site, the third reviewer says he gets hdmi sound:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130536

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#1004

On Friday, January 20th, 2012, 21:41:51h +0000, rOOt wrote:

> Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My video
> card is an EVGA GeForce 210. I just took the card out and I don't see
> any place that an external cable could be connected to the card.

Well maybe it does not need one after all.  I based my comments on
experience with an nVidia GTS 250 which came with an SPDIF cable
in the box that required the connection, and was thus under the
impression that it was generally required.

It seems that some AMD/ATI graphics cards have an actual "sound card"
on board so no connection is needed to anything else to get sound.

See discusion about SPDIF cable and not needed for AMD/ATI at

   <http://www.techspot.COM/vb/topic139061.html>


and see the tutorial about SPDIF cables specifically for GeForce cards at

<http://www.hardwaresecrets.COM/article/How-to-Use-The-SPDIF-Connector-Available-on-GeForce-Video-Cards/600>

But that was dated August 2008, so maybe newer GeForce cards do not
need the cable to get sound routed from the sound card to the graphics
card and it is done in software.

> BTW, when I disabled motherboard sound, alsaconf only sees SPDIF sound
> out for NVidia.

Remember that for each sound card you need an appropriate kernel module loaded.

According to the sequence in detection and loading of the different sound cards,
the ALSA system numbers them sequentially hw:0, hw:1 etc, or the order can
be specified as an option in the modprobe.d conf file eg

options snd-sbawe               index=0
options snd-pcsp                index=1
options snd-bt87x               index=2
options snd-usb-audio           index=3         pid=0x0329 vid=0x0471

You can then adjust the levels appropriately using alsamixer
which defaults to the default specified in /etc/asound.conf if
present otherwise hw:0.   You can go directly to each device using

            alsamixer -D hw:1

or from within an already running alsamixer by hitting F6 to select card.

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#1006

J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
> On Friday, January 20th, 2012, 21:41:51h +0000, rOOt wrote:
> 
>> Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My video
>> card is an EVGA GeForce 210. I just took the card out and I don't see
>> any place that an external cable could be connected to the card.
> 
> Well maybe it does not need one after all.  I based my comments on
> experience with an nVidia GTS 250 which came with an SPDIF cable
> in the box that required the connection, and was thus under the
> impression that it was generally required.
> 
> It seems that some AMD/ATI graphics cards have an actual "sound card"
> on board so no connection is needed to anything else to get sound.
> 
> See discusion about SPDIF cable and not needed for AMD/ATI at
> 
>    <http://www.techspot.COM/vb/topic139061.html>
> 
> 
> and see the tutorial about SPDIF cables specifically for GeForce cards at
> 
><http://www.hardwaresecrets.COM/article/How-to-Use-The-SPDIF-Connector-Available-on-GeForce-Video-Cards/600>
> 

Thanks for the references. The GeForce 210 is about that age. About 15
years ago I had a terrible time with an ATI card and vowed never to
go that route again. Maybe I will give them another chance.

> 
> Remember that for each sound card you need an appropriate kernel module loaded.
> 

I have the correct modules loaded, at least they correspond to those
that "Terry" says were loaded for him.

> 
> You can then adjust the levels appropriately using alsamixer
> which defaults to the default specified in /etc/asound.conf if
> present otherwise hw:0.   You can go directly to each device using
> 
>             alsamixer -D hw:1
> 
> or from within an already running alsamixer by hitting F6 to select card.

Under alsamixer, when the MB sound is disabled, only SPDIF is shown
and no level change is possible.

As I said, this has been a nightmare for me.

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#1005

In article <jfcn2v$ghk$1@news.albasani.net>, root  <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>> And did you connect a cable from the SPDIF digital out pins of your
>> sound card or mainboard sound to the SPDIF digital in pins of your 
>> nVidia graphics card?
>
>Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My
>video card is an EVGA GeForce 210.

I recently upgraded the video card in my MythTV box from a 9500GT to a 210. 

The former has a 2-pin header that you can connect to a S/PDIF header on the
motherboard (or on a sound card); this input is muxed with the video.  

The latter has sound-generating capability built in; AFAIK, all you need to
do is make sure (1) you're using a recent version of nVIDIA's binary-blob
driver and not the open-source driver and (2) make sure it's unmuted.  It
shows up as four different output devices, but with MythTV at least, you
want to make sure the second is selected.  I've tested it with AC3 and DTS
output so far...haven't tried feeding it PCM (either stereo or multichannel)
yet.  It's supposed to handle multichannel PCM, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD
Master Audio, which are big wins over what you can do with feeding S/PDIF to
an older card.  I haven't tested those capabilities to see if they work.

(That the 210 is fanless is a nice bonus, even if the fat heatsink does
intrude into the neighboring slot's space.)

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#1007

Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
> In article <jfcn2v$ghk$1@news.albasani.net>, root  <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>>J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>>> And did you connect a cable from the SPDIF digital out pins of your
>>> sound card or mainboard sound to the SPDIF digital in pins of your 
>>> nVidia graphics card?
>>
>>Duh, no I didn't because I didn't know anything about that. My
>>video card is an EVGA GeForce 210.
> 
> I recently upgraded the video card in my MythTV box from a 9500GT to a 210. 
> 
> The former has a 2-pin header that you can connect to a S/PDIF header on the
> motherboard (or on a sound card); this input is muxed with the video.  
> 
> The latter has sound-generating capability built in; AFAIK, all you need to
> do is make sure (1) you're using a recent version of nVIDIA's binary-blob
> driver and not the open-source driver and (2) make sure it's unmuted.  It
> shows up as four different output devices, but with MythTV at least, you
> want to make sure the second is selected.  I've tested it with AC3 and DTS
> output so far...haven't tried feeding it PCM (either stereo or multichannel)
> yet.  It's supposed to handle multichannel PCM, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD
> Master Audio, which are big wins over what you can do with feeding S/PDIF to
> an older card.  I haven't tested those capabilities to see if they work.
> 
> (That the 210 is fanless is a nice bonus, even if the fat heatsink does
> intrude into the neighboring slot's space.)

When I last played with the 210, a couple of months ago, I did have the
latest NVidia driver. I am running Slackware 13.37 with 2.6.37.6 kernel.
I only see one sound device when the MB sound is disabled.


I have neglected to mention that the only tests I have ever done is
with mplayer originating the sound, either from playing video or
mp3 sources. Wait, no I did try Xine on one video source.

Here I feel sorry that I have hijacked the OP's thread, but I
think my experience and the suggested solutions will be of
value to the OP.

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#1008

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> 
> Here I feel sorry that I have hijacked the OP's thread, but I
> think my experience and the suggested solutions will be of
> value to the OP.

To the OP: just to show how sorry I am, I have pulled up
everything I saved from the guy who tried to help me get
going. I was wrong about the name, it wasn't Terry it was Todd.
Here is what I have:

Todd <Todd@invalid.com> wrote:
> First, a dumb question: do you have your video playing through
> your HDMI cable to your monitor?  Do not proceed until you
> get to that point.

Yes, I have video playing. Up to now I have had to connect
video directly to one input on the TV and have sound coming
from a separate input on the audio receiver.

>
> And, make sure you have the latest nVidia drivers installed.
> My audio completely corked when I installed this card without
> upgrading the driver.  The "Audio" component of the HDMI section
> is part of the video driver.

Well I didn't have the latest, but I just downloaded and installed
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run
with no change in result. I get a good picture and no sound.

>
> Next set your default sound card to HDMI.  I do this with:
>       /usr/bin/system-config-soundcard

Here we have distribution differences, I don't have that file.
In current versions of Slackware the sound module to be loaded
is found in /etc/modprobe.d/sound
but that entry is snd_hda_intel.
>
> You will find the "Default audio device" setting under the "Settings"
> tab.  My HDMI card is called "nVidia Corporation High Definition
> Audio Controller".
>
> You can do a double check with:
>     $ cat /etc/asound.conf
>
> While you are in system-config-soundcard, make sure both your Master
> and PCM sound are turned up.  Also make sure you speakers are
> turned up.
>
> And on the system-config-soundcard "Sound Test" tab, there is a
> test sound to test things with.
>
> HTH,

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On 11/14/2011 04:24 PM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:48:15 -0800, Todd wrote:
>
>> # ps ax | grep -i pulse
>> 17515 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep -i pulse
>
> That will not show all processes.
>
> You need to do
>
>    ps -aefw | egrep pulse


# ps -aefw | egrep pulse
root     14000 13977  0 18:00 pts/1    00:00:00 egrep pulse

>
>> I am using the old gnome.  Who do I get at the level meter?
>
> So what happened when you tried to run gnome-volume-control
> or if I have misremembered the name, go to gnome-control-center
> and then double click on sound.

# ps -aefw | egrep pulse
root     14000 13977  0 18:00 pts/1    00:00:00 egrep pulse

# ps -aefw | egrep gnome
todd     14009     1  0 18:01 ?        00:00:00 
/usr/bin/gnome-volume-control

I can turn the mic on and off.  Off kills the pass through
to my speakers

>
>> I actually have a second HDMI sound card on my nVidia GT210
>> video card.
>
> As far as I understand, that is NOT a cound card.  It is just
> a way of taking the sound feed from your actual sound card or
> onboard sound and piping it through through the HDMI output
> of the video card.

This one will stand on its own.  You do not need an extra sound card
if your have an HDMI monitor with build in speakers.  No mic
or line input though.

> It would be helpful if you could do the following checks
>
>     dmesg
 >
> just after boot up and look to through the lines to see if
> your onboard sound card is there and any relevant details.

# dmesg | grep -i esb2
ESB2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1
ESB2: chipset revision 9
ESB2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later


>
> Now as you say you can hear sounds, this means that something
> has been found so
>
>    lsmod | egrep snd

# lsmod | egrep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     28420  4
snd_hda_intel          35808  0
snd_intel8x0           37404  2
snd_hda_codec          84480  2 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
snd_ac97_codec         98596  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_hwdep              12932  1 snd_hda_codec
ac97_bus                6272  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_dummy           7940  0
snd_seq_oss            31360  0
snd_seq_midi_event     11008  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                50416  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device         11788  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            42624  0
snd_mixer_oss          19840  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                75780  6 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_intel8x0,snd_hda_codec,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer              25348  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    61892  18 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_intel8x0,snd_hda_codec,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore              11553  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         14984  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

> would be useful to see what ALSA modules have been loaded.
>
> And you did not give any indication of what happened when you
> did
>
>    alsamixer -D hw:0

Went straight into alsamixer.  All my previous setting were still intact

>
> If nothing happens as ordinary user, try doing that as root,

No joy (means nothing changed as root).

> because there may be a permissions problem on the audio device
> files.
>
> Also  check
>
>        cat /dev/sndstat

# cat /dev/sndstat
cat: /dev/sndstat: No such file or directory

>
> and ls -aFls /dev/snd/*# ls -aFls /dev/snd/*

0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  8 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/controlC0
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 17 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/controlC1
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 16 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/hwC1D0
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 15 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/hwC1D1
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 14 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/hwC1D2
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 13 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/hwC1D3
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  7 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  6 Nov 14 17:45 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  5 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1c
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  4 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  3 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D3c
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  2 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D4p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 12 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC1D3p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 11 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC1D7p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 10 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC1D8p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  9 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/pcmC1D9p
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116,  1 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/seq
0 crw------- 1 todd audio 116, 33 Nov 14 17:42 /dev/snd/timer


>> when I can play music through my (non-hdmi) speakers.
>
> Presumably you have the speakers plugged into the green socket.

Yes

>
> Do you plug the microphone into the pink socket?

Yes




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Hope something in there helps you.

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#1009

	I have a setup that seems to be quite similar to yours, and I am 
getting sound from my 210 card using the HDMI connector all right. This 
is under Slackware 13.1, and with one year old nVidia drivers; I can't 
quite remember the exact version right now. I'll let you now, if 
necessary, but first do the following:

	Take a look at /proc/asound/card0/eld*. Which file contains your 
monitor information? The files are numbered 0, 1, 2, 3, and correspond to 
ALSA device IDs 3, 7, 8, 9. Then, try the following command:

	speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,N

where N is 3/7/8/9 as mentioned above, until you get sound.

	Also, you can try:

	aplay -D hw:0,N filename.wav

if you have a wav file to test with.

	Alternatively, try

	mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.N

In my case, the device number N I had to use was 8. Until I did this I 
could get no sound whatsoever through the HDMI connector.

	I wonder if this could also work for 8400GS cards without SPDIF 
connector?

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#1010

Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:

Thanks for responding.


> 	I have a setup that seems to be quite similar to yours, and I am 
> getting sound from my 210 card using the HDMI connector all right. This 
> is under Slackware 13.1, and with one year old nVidia drivers; I can't 
> quite remember the exact version right now. I'll let you now, if 
> necessary, but first do the following:
> 
> 	Take a look at /proc/asound/card0/eld*.

Well I don't have such eld* entries. Here is what I see:

via:/proc/asound/card0>ls -l /proc/asound/card0
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 codec#2
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 id
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 oss_mixer
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0c/
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0p/
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm1c/
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm1p/

The id is Intel.

The file codec#2 contains lots of information like this:
Codec: Realtek ALC662 rev1
Address: 2
AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1)
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0662
Subsystem Id: 0x15650000
Revision Id: 0x100101
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
  IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Control: name="Front Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
    ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
  Device: name="ALC662 rev1 Analog", type="Audio", device=0
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x2c 0x2c]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0

<LOTS MORE STUFF DELETED>

This motherboard has onboard sound and the device is not disabled.


> Which file contains your 
> monitor information? The files are numbered 0, 1, 2, 3, and correspond to 
> ALSA device IDs 3, 7, 8, 9. Then, try the following command:
> 
> 	speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,N
> 
> where N is 3/7/8/9 as mentioned above, until you get sound.
> 
> 	Also, you can try:
> 
> 	aplay -D hw:0,N filename.wav
> 
> if you have a wav file to test with.
> 
> 	Alternatively, try
> 
> 	mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.N
> 
> In my case, the device number N I had to use was 8. Until I did this I 
> could get no sound whatsoever through the HDMI connector.
> 
> 	I wonder if this could also work for 8400GS cards without SPDIF 
> connector?
> 

I have to change connections around to run your speaker-test cases.
I will get back to you.
> 

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#1011

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for responding.
> 
> 
>> 	I have a setup that seems to be quite similar to yours, and I am 
>> getting sound from my 210 card using the HDMI connector all right. This 
>> is under Slackware 13.1, and with one year old nVidia drivers; I can't 
>> quite remember the exact version right now. I'll let you now, if 
>> necessary, but first do the following:
>> 
>> 	Take a look at /proc/asound/card0/eld*.
> 
> Well I don't have such eld* entries. Here is what I see:
> 
> via:/proc/asound/card0>ls -l /proc/asound/card0
> total 0
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 codec#2
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 id
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 oss_mixer
> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0c/
> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0p/
> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm1c/
> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm1p/
> 
> The id is Intel.
> 
> The file codec#2 contains lots of information like this:
> Codec: Realtek ALC662 rev1
> Address: 2
> AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1)
> Vendor Id: 0x10ec0662
> Subsystem Id: 0x15650000
> Revision Id: 0x100101
> No Modem Function Group found
> Default PCM:
>     rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
>     bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
>     formats [0x1]: PCM
> Default Amp-In caps: N/A
> Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
> GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
>   IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
>   IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
> Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
>   Control: name="Front Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
>     ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
>   Device: name="ALC662 rev1 Analog", type="Audio", device=0
>   Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
>   Amp-Out vals:  [0x2c 0x2c]
>   Converter: stream=0, channel=0
> 
><LOTS MORE STUFF DELETED>
> 
> This motherboard has onboard sound and the device is not disabled.
> 
> 
>> Which file contains your 
>> monitor information? The files are numbered 0, 1, 2, 3, and correspond to 
>> ALSA device IDs 3, 7, 8, 9. Then, try the following command:
>> 
>> 	speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,N
>> 
>> where N is 3/7/8/9 as mentioned above, until you get sound.
>> 
>> 	Also, you can try:
>> 
>> 	aplay -D hw:0,N filename.wav
>> 
>> if you have a wav file to test with.
>> 
>> 	Alternatively, try
>> 
>> 	mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.N
>> 
>> In my case, the device number N I had to use was 8. Until I did this I 
>> could get no sound whatsoever through the HDMI connector.
>> 
>> 	I wonder if this could also work for 8400GS cards without SPDIF 
>> connector?
>> 
> 
> I have to change connections around to run your speaker-test cases.
> I will get back to you.
>> 

This is me getting back:
I tried speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,[3789]
and in each case the resulting message was:
Playback open error:-2 No such file or directory.

In the course of screwing with this card I have
gone from 13.0,13.1, and now 13.37. I suppose
the difference between our /proc/asound/card* stuff
is due to 13.1->13.37

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#1014

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:29:39 +0000, root wrote:

> Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for responding.
> 
> 
>> 	I have a setup that seems to be quite similar to yours, and I am
>> getting sound from my 210 card using the HDMI connector all right. This
>> is under Slackware 13.1, and with one year old nVidia drivers; I can't
>> quite remember the exact version right now. I'll let you now, if
>> necessary, but first do the following:
>> 
>> 	Take a look at /proc/asound/card0/eld*.
> 
> Well I don't have such eld* entries. Here is what I see:
> 
> via:/proc/asound/card0>ls -l /proc/asound/card0 total 0
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 codec#2 -r--r--r-- 1 root root
> 0 2012-01-21 11:11 id -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11
> oss_mixer dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0c/ dr-xr-xr-x 3
> root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm0p/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21
> 11:11 pcm1c/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-01-21 11:11 pcm1p/
> 
> The id is Intel.
> 
> The file codec#2 contains lots of information like this: Codec: Realtek
> ALC662 rev1
> Address: 2
> AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1)

	That does not seem to be the nVidia card, but some other (built-
in?) audio device. What do you get when you do

	cat /proc/asound/cards

?

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#1015

Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
> 
> 	cat /proc/asound/cards
> 
> ?
> 
Here is what I get:

 0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
                      HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb620000 irq 66

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#1016

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 	cat /proc/asound/cards
>> 
>> ?
>> 
> Here is what I get:
> 
>  0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>                       HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb620000 irq 66




I got sound!
Following an earlier suggestion I went to:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/gpu-hdmi-audio-document/gpu-hdmi-audio.html

This site led me step by step. First:
aplay -L
lists all the sound devices. My video card came up as
the second.

Then the document said:
For GPUs, which are typically ALSA card 1:

speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,3
speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,7
speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,8
speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,9

This one did it for me:
speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,7

I got sound for the white noise test.

You must be under X to get sound. I had tried this
under a console with no success. I vaguely remember
doing the same (console) test several months ago.
Under the console it seems as if the test is running,
stuff comes up on the screen, but no sound comes out.

Now, I know that I have to pass hw:1,7 to the sound
configuration, but I have tried several forms of
asound.conf and nothing makes mplayer work.

I did try 
aplay aplay -D hw:1,7 somefile.wav
and sound came out.

Can someone please fill in the final gap:
what should either .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf
be to have sound come out from mplayer?

Is it possible to have console sound come out
of the motherboard audio and video sound come
out of the hdmi without tweaking the config
file?

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#1017

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:14:02 +0000, root wrote:

> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>> Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 	cat /proc/asound/cards
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>> Here is what I get:
>> 
>>  0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>>                       HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb620000 irq 66
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I got sound!
> Following an earlier suggestion I went to:
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/gpu-hdmi-audio-document/gpu-hdmi-
audio.html
> 
> This site led me step by step. First: aplay -L
> lists all the sound devices. My video card came up as the second.
> 
> Then the document said:
> For GPUs, which are typically ALSA card 1:
> 
> speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,3
> speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,7
> speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,8
> speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,9
> 
> This one did it for me:
> speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:1,7
> 
> I got sound for the white noise test.
> 
> You must be under X to get sound. I had tried this under a console with
> no success. I vaguely remember doing the same (console) test several
> months ago. Under the console it seems as if the test is running, stuff
> comes up on the screen, but no sound comes out.
> 
> Now, I know that I have to pass hw:1,7 to the sound configuration, but I
> have tried several forms of asound.conf and nothing makes mplayer work.
> 
> I did try
> aplay aplay -D hw:1,7 somefile.wav
> and sound came out.
> 
> Can someone please fill in the final gap: what should either .asoundrc
> or /etc/asound.conf be to have sound come out from mplayer?

	This is what I have in my /etc/asound.conf file:

pcm.!default {
  type plug
    slave.pcm {
    type hw
    card 0
    device 8
  }
}

	I guess for you it'd be card 1 and device 7.

> Is it possible to have console sound come out of the motherboard audio
> and video sound come out of the hdmi without tweaking the config file?

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#1018

Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> wrote:
> 	This is what I have in my /etc/asound.conf file:
> 
> pcm.!default {
>   type plug
>     slave.pcm {
>     type hw
>     card 0
>     device 8
>   }
> }
> 
> 	I guess for you it'd be card 1 and device 7.
> 

For this particular machine I have the onboard sound going
to one of the inputs of my receiver, while the hdmi output
goes to an hdmi input of the same receiver. I was afraid
setting the default audio out to the hdmi would disrupt
all the uses I had programmed for onboard output.

I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
a few places so it was best for me to just include
-ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
in those scripts.

It now seems so simple to get hdmi sound running
I am ashamed it took me several months of off/on
work. A tribute to all who helped me and the OP
who started this thread.

Thanks.
> 

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#1020

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
> a few places so it was best for me to just include
> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
> in those scripts.

Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7

regards Henrik
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#1021

Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
>> a few places so it was best for me to just include
>> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
>> in those scripts.
> 
> Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
> ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7

I use this particular machine as both a music and video server.
When I play mp3 files I use mplayer and I want the sound to
come out of the onboard audio device. When I play video I
also use mplayer but then I want the sound to come out of
the hdmi connection.

> 
> regards Henrik

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