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  cups and systemd ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-02-08 21:15 -0500
    Re: cups and systemd Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-02-09 04:07 +0100
    Re: cups and systemd Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-02-08 22:11 -0500
      Re: cups and systemd ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-02-09 23:17 -0500
        Re: cups and systemd Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-10 09:16 +0000
          Re: cups and systemd ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-02-10 08:41 -0500

#2720 — cups and systemd

are there new dependencies built into cups that make it systemd
dependent now?

Ruben

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#2721

On Monday 09 February 2015 03:15, ruben safir conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> are there new dependencies built into cups that make it systemd
> dependent now?

Not that I know of.  CUPS is also used by Solaris and OS X, neither of 
which runs systemd ─ systemd itself is the GNU/Linux-specific component 
here.

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#2722

On Sunday February 8 2015 21:15, in comp.os.linux.hardware, "ruben safir"
<ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:

> are there new dependencies built into cups that make it systemd
> dependent now?

Looking at the CUPS website (https://www.cups.org/), it appears that CUPS
does not have any dependencies for systemd. The latest version of CUPS
does, apparently, include "systemd support", but not as a dependency.

-- 
Lew Pitcher
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#2723

On 02/08/2015 10:11 PM, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Sunday February 8 2015 21:15, in comp.os.linux.hardware, "ruben safir"
> <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> 
>> are there new dependencies built into cups that make it systemd
>> dependent now?
> 
> Looking at the CUPS website (https://www.cups.org/), it appears that CUPS
> does not have any dependencies for systemd. The latest version of CUPS
> does, apparently, include "systemd support", but not as a dependency.
> 


the reason I asked was because the Devuan project, which is an attempt
to make a system-less debian fork, mentioned that they had to roll CUPS
back to 1.7 something in order to get rid of systemd dependencies..

Ruben

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#2724

ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> writes:
> Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> "ruben safir" <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:

>>> are there new dependencies built into cups that make it systemd
>>> dependent now?
>>
>> Looking at the CUPS website (https://www.cups.org/), it appears that
>> CUPS does not have any dependencies for systemd. The latest version
>> of CUPS does, apparently, include "systemd support", but not as a
>> dependency.
>
> the reason I asked was because the Devuan project, which is an attempt
> to make a system-less debian fork, mentioned that they had to roll CUPS
> back to 1.7 something in order to get rid of systemd dependencies..

This would be http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.devuan.devel/562

Looking at the cups package in sid, it’s a library dependency to support
being started by systemd; it does not depend on systemd being in use at
runtime, AFAICS.

For that matter the dependency is the result of a build-time test so if
they’re that worried about even libraries then I don’t know why they
don’t just recompile it.

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#2725

On 02/10/2015 04:16 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> For that matter the dependency is the result of a build-time test so if
> they’re that worried about even libraries then I don’t know why they
> don’t just recompile it.


You would have to ask them ;)

They are legit and they are making an effort to do something I would
normally support, but they have their own way about them.

Ruben

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