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  Synaprics right click buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-07-28 21:03 +0000
    Re: Synaprics right click Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-07-29 11:31 +0200
    Re: Synaprics right click Aaron W. Hsu <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-07-29 21:21 -0500
      Re: Synaprics right click Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-07-29 23:22 -0400
        Re: Synaprics right click buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-07-30 07:53 +0000
          Re: Synaprics right click Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-07-30 11:16 +0200
          Re: Synaprics right click Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2012-08-06 10:18 -0700
    Re: Synaprics right click Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> - 2012-08-01 19:37 +0000
      Re: Synaprics right click buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-08-02 18:56 +0000
        Re: Synaprics right click Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> - 2012-08-06 16:12 +0000
          Re: Synaprics right click Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2012-08-06 20:44 +0000
            Re: Synaprics right click buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-08-07 16:56 +0000
              Re: Synaprics right click Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2012-08-07 20:35 +0000

#1384 — Synaprics right click

I have an HP Pavillion dv7 laptop with a Synaptics TouchPad.  Either 
the Synaptics is brain dead or I am.

There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT 
CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is not 
context sensitive.  By that I mean that when I use a real mouse and 
right click a taskbar icon, I get a drop down window with options such 
as "Always On Top" and "Close", but when I use what I suppose is the 
RIGHT CLICK key, a menu containing (among others) "Cut" and "Paste" 
appears no matter where the "mouse" is pointed.

I have attempted everything I find with Google to enable a two or 
three finger tap that will cause the Synaptics to perform a right 
click, but nothing works.  The "buttons:" line in Xorg.0.log contains 
only "left right".

Is there a solution, or am I going to have to use a real mouse and 
forget about the TouchPad?
--
buck

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#1385

buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT 
> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), 

That key is probably a special keyboard key and not a mouse button. You
can verify this by running xev. Mouse buttons give ButtonPress and
ButtonRelease events, keyboard keys give KeyPress and KeyRelease events.

Depending on your window manager you might be able to map the key to
something useful like showing a menu or locking the screen.

regards Henrik
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#1387

buck <buck@private.mil> writes:

>There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT 
>CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is not 
>context sensitive.  

I am afraid that I cannot help you with the synaptics issue directly, 
but I think the key to which you refer is the Menu key, which is, 
of course, different than the Right-click key, though at times they pull 
up the same menu.

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#1388

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:

> buck <buck@private.mil> writes:
>
>> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT
>> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is not
>> context sensitive.
>
> I am afraid that I cannot help you with the synaptics issue directly,
> but I think the key to which you refer is the Menu key, which is,
> of course, different than the Right-click key, though at times they pull
> up the same menu.
>
I find the original question a tad confusing, because it reads like the 
buttons don't give what the mouse is doing, yet it almost seems like the 
mouse is configured a certain way (which then suggests the trackpad needs 
similar configuration).

I got a USB keyboard a couple of months ago that has a trackpad at the 
bottom (and the ittle "joystick" gizmo in between keys) and I was really 
surprised that the minute I plugged it in that it worked (specifically 
with Slackware).  I had expected it to need some configuring.  The 
keyboard is really like a laptop keyboard in a case for the desktop.

Anyway, I just plugged it, and I seem to get the same results as with the 
mouse, the trackpad on this keyboard has two buttons at the bottom, and 3 
at the top.

Yes, fiddling I see no difference between the trackpad and the mouse.

   Michael

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#1390

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.1207292315300.7182@darkstar.example.net: 

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
> 
>> buck <buck@private.mil> writes:
>>
>>> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a 
RIGHT
>>> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is 
not
>>> context sensitive.
>>
> I find the original question a tad confusing, because it reads like
> the buttons don't give what the mouse is doing, yet it almost seems
> like the mouse is configured a certain way (which then suggests the
> trackpad needs similar configuration).
>    Michael

Perhaps if I say that I want the TouchPad to behave exactly like a 
mouse that will clarify it?

I had hoped to get a definitive answer with respect to this hardware.

I mentioned the key because it seems to me that its presence means 
that the pad cannot be configured to right click, so that the key is 
HP's effort at similar but not identical functionality.
--
buck

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#1391

buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> Perhaps if I say that I want the TouchPad to behave exactly like a 
> mouse that will clarify it?

If you want a mouse rather than a touchpad your best option might be to
buy an USB mouse for your laptop.
 
> I mentioned the key because it seems to me that its presence means that
> the pad cannot be configured to right click, so that the key is HP's
> effort at similar but not identical functionality.

It is up to you to configure the functionality of the key as you like.

My laptop also has a touchpad. Both the left and right button below this
touchpad works fine, but it has no physical middle button. I did configure
X to emulate a middle button by pressing both left and right button at
once with the following line in xorg.conf:

    Option "Emulate3Buttons"

IMHO this does not make the touchpad with its button as convenient to use
as a real 3 button mouse, but it makes it good enough not to make it worth
the effort to have an extra mouse for the laptop.

regards Henrik
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#1408

On 07/30/2012 12:53 AM, buck wrote:
> Michael Black<et472@ncf.ca>  wrote in
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.1207292315300.7182@darkstar.example.net:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
>>
>>> buck<buck@private.mil>  writes:
>>>
>>>> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a
> RIGHT
>>>> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is
> not
>>>> context sensitive.
>>>
>> I find the original question a tad confusing, because it reads like
>> the buttons don't give what the mouse is doing, yet it almost seems
>> like the mouse is configured a certain way (which then suggests the
>> trackpad needs similar configuration).
>>     Michael
>
> Perhaps if I say that I want the TouchPad to behave exactly like a
> mouse that will clarify it?
>
> I had hoped to get a definitive answer with respect to this hardware.
>
> I mentioned the key because it seems to me that its presence means
> that the pad cannot be configured to right click, so that the key is
> HP's effort at similar but not identical functionality.
> --
> buck

	What I see at the following has buttons.
<http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/B2P31UA?HP-Pavilion-dv7-7012nr-Entertainment-Notebook-PC>

	Maybe you want to include all the numbers in the model specifications?
	Or maybe you need better lighting or glasses?
	Or maybe read the User Guide...  It might be online
you know if you search under the whole model number.

	bliss

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#1400

On 28 Jul 2012 21:03:58 GMT, buck wrote:

> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT
> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is not
> context sensitive.  By that I mean that when I use a real mouse and
> right click a taskbar icon, I get a drop down window with options
> such as "Always On Top" and "Close", but when I use what I suppose
> is the RIGHT CLICK key, a menu containing (among others) "Cut" and
> "Paste" appears no matter where the "mouse" is pointed.

I suspect you're confused (or maybe I am!).  The key you're referring
to on the keyboard clearly isn't the right mouse button.  Did you
try the right button of the pair of buttons below the trackpad on
your laptop?  That should be the right mouse button.  I think the
key you're referring to is simply a "menu" key.

> I have attempted everything I find with Google to enable a two or 
> three finger tap that will cause the Synaptics to perform a right 
> click, but nothing works.

I've had mixed success with the same myself, and resorted to simply
using the buttons below the trackpad.  They're pretty reliable.

-- 
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Sylvain Robitaille                               syl@encs.concordia.ca
 
Systems analyst / AITS                            Concordia University
Faculty of Engineering and Computer Science   Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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#1403

Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in 
news:slrnk1j1bn.p9f.syl@charlotte.encs.concordia.ca:

> On 28 Jul 2012 21:03:58 GMT, buck wrote:
> 
>> There is a key to the right of the spacebar that I think is a RIGHT
>> CLICK key (SPACE then ALT then RIGHT CLICK then CTRL), but it is 
> 
> I suspect you're confused (or maybe I am!).  The key you're 
referring
> to on the keyboard clearly isn't the right mouse button.  Did you
> try the right button of the pair of buttons below the trackpad on
> your laptop?  That should be the right mouse button.  I think the
> key you're referring to is simply a "menu" key.

Probably true.
 
>> I have attempted everything I find with Google to enable a two or 
>> three finger tap that will cause the Synaptics to perform a right 
>> click, but nothing works.
> 
> I've had mixed success with the same myself, and resorted to simply
> using the buttons below the trackpad.  They're pretty reliable.

There are no buttons!  Which is why I'm attempting multifinger right 
click.  As I said in the first post, this setup is brain dead.

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#1407

On 2 Aug 2012 18:56:47 GMT, buck wrote:

> There are no buttons!  ...

Odd!  The photos I looked at for the model laptop you listed suggest
otherwise, but obviously I'm not looking at your specific unit.
Given no buttons, are you sure yours isn't a Mac?  ;-)

-- 
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Sylvain Robitaille                               syl@encs.concordia.ca
 
Systems analyst / AITS                            Concordia University
Faculty of Engineering and Computer Science   Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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#1409

In alt.os.linux.slackware Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
> On 2 Aug 2012 18:56:47 GMT, buck wrote:
> 
>> There are no buttons!  ...
> 
> Odd!  The photos I looked at for the model laptop you listed suggest
> otherwise, but obviously I'm not looking at your specific unit.
> Given no buttons, are you sure yours isn't a Mac?  ;-)
> 

I think on some of the newer touchpads the buttons are specific areas
on the touchpad itself. Much like my AA1 TP which has an scroll
function builtin (which is unusable, it's not at the right edge, and
is difficult to find, 2-finger scroll via the driver works much
better).

	Jerry

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#1410

Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote in
news:jvpab5$nph$1@dont-email.me: 

> I think on some of the newer touchpads the buttons are specific areas
> on the touchpad itself. Much like my AA1 TP which has an scroll
> function builtin (which is unusable, it's not at the right edge, and
> is difficult to find, 2-finger scroll via the driver works much
> better).
> 
>      Jerry

AWESOME, thanks!  Tapping the top right corner gives me a context 
sensitive right click.
--
buck

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#1411

In alt.os.linux.slackware buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:jvpab5$nph$1@dont-email.me: 
> 
>> I think on some of the newer touchpads the buttons are specific areas
>> on the touchpad itself. Much like my AA1 TP which has an scroll
>> function builtin (which is unusable, it's not at the right edge, and
>> is difficult to find, 2-finger scroll via the driver works much
>> better).
>> 
>>      Jerry
> 
> AWESOME, thanks!  Tapping the top right corner gives me a context 
> sensitive right click.
> --
> buck

If you issue 'synclient -l' you should see entries for the corner
buttons so you can see what's set:

RTCornerButton          = 0
RBCornerButton          = 0
LTCornerButton          = 0
LBCornerButton          = 0

	Jerry

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