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HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS

Started bybuck <buck@private.mil>
First post2012-01-20 20:26 +0000
Last post2012-01-21 11:34 -0800
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  HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-20 20:26 +0000
    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 20:35 +0000
      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-20 21:10 +0000
        Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 21:41 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-20 21:49 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-20 22:47 +0000
            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:07 +0000
          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2012-01-20 22:50 +0000
            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:12 +0000
              Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 00:25 +0000
                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-21 16:05 +0000
                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 18:29 +0000
                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 18:40 +0000
                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-21 21:43 +0000
                      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-21 23:55 +0000
                        Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 01:14 +0000
                          Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-22 03:23 +0000
                            Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 04:04 +0000
                              Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-01-22 13:02 +0100
                                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 14:54 +0000
                                Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-22 17:41 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-22 17:55 +0000
                                    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 18:07 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2012-01-22 18:02 +0000
                                  Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2012-01-22 20:01 +0100
      Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS buck <buck@private.mil> - 2012-01-21 19:23 +0000
    Re: HDMI sound on GeForce 8400GS TheGunslinger <mikiesrunsbaal.sec@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-01-21 11:34 -0800

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#1022

Frombuck <buck@private.mil>
Date2012-01-22 17:41 +0000
Message-ID<jfhho30klp@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1020
Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in 
news:pan.2012.01.22.12.02.20.468175@deadspam.com:

> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
>> a few places so it was best for me to just include
>> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
>> in those scripts.
> 
> Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
> ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7
> 
> regards Henrik

It appears to me that the key is /etc/asound.conf

Would all of you (root, Clark & Henrik) be so kind as to post the 
content of asound.conf along with a description of your sound card(s)?

In .mplayer/config are the section headers honored?  By that I mean 
that if [gnome-mplayer] and [mplayer] both exist, will each 
corresponding software only use the entries specific to it?  I get the 
feeling that since gnome-mplayer is only a front end, it will look at 
everything...
--
buck

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#1023

Frombuck <buck@private.mil>
Date2012-01-22 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<jfhii00276v@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1022
buck <buck@private.mil> wrote in news:jfhho30klp@news2.newsguy.com:

> Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in 
> news:pan.2012.01.22.12.02.20.468175@deadspam.com:
> 
>> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>>> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
>>> a few places so it was best for me to just include
>>> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
>>> in those scripts.
>> 
>> Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
>> ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7
>> 
>> regards Henrik
> 
> It appears to me that the key is /etc/asound.conf
> 
> Would all of you (root, Clark & Henrik) be so kind as to post the 
> content of asound.conf along with a description of your sound card
(s)?
> 
> In .mplayer/config are the section headers honored?  By that I mean 
> that if [gnome-mplayer] and [mplayer] both exist, will each 
> corresponding software only use the entries specific to it?  I get 
the 
> feeling that since gnome-mplayer is only a front end, it will look 
at 
> everything...
> --
> buck
It occurs to me that it might help to understand that I'd like 
gnome-mplayer to be the only thing using the NVidia sound card, while 
mplayer, aplay, arecord etc. use the Intel onboard sound.

That might also alter the content of asound.conf?
--
buck

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#1025

Fromroot <NoEMail@home.org>
Date2012-01-22 18:07 +0000
Message-ID<jfhj9e$987$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#1023
buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> buck <buck@private.mil> wrote in news:jfhho30klp@news2.newsguy.com:
> 
>> Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in 
>> news:pan.2012.01.22.12.02.20.468175@deadspam.com:
>> 
>>> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>>>> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
>>>> a few places so it was best for me to just include
>>>> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
>>>> in those scripts.
>>> 
>>> Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
>>> ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7
>>> 
>>> regards Henrik
>> 
>> It appears to me that the key is /etc/asound.conf
>> 
>> Would all of you (root, Clark & Henrik) be so kind as to post the 
>> content of asound.conf along with a description of your sound card
> (s)?
>> 
>> In .mplayer/config are the section headers honored?  By that I mean 
>> that if [gnome-mplayer] and [mplayer] both exist, will each 
>> corresponding software only use the entries specific to it?  I get 
> the 
>> feeling that since gnome-mplayer is only a front end, it will look 
> at 
>> everything...
>> --
>> buck
> It occurs to me that it might help to understand that I'd like 
> gnome-mplayer to be the only thing using the NVidia sound card, while 
> mplayer, aplay, arecord etc. use the Intel onboard sound.
> 
> That might also alter the content of asound.conf?
> --
> buck
> 

You can get what you want if, in Gnome, you invoke mplayer
as mplayer -ao [whatever], and elsewhere you simply
use mplayer. Create an alias for mplayer with the audio
device hardwired in. It even work out, if your other
uses for mplayer, aplay,arecord,.... run under console
mode, that you don't have anything to worry about.

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#1024

Fromroot <NoEMail@home.org>
Date2012-01-22 18:02 +0000
Message-ID<jfhj08$987$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#1022
buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in 
> news:pan.2012.01.22.12.02.20.468175@deadspam.com:
> 
>> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>>> I decided that I only invoked mplayer under X in
>>> a few places so it was best for me to just include
>>> -ao alsa:device=hw=1.7
>>> in those scripts.
>> 
>> Or you could try putting the following in ~/.mplayer/config
>> ao=alsa:device=hw=1.7
>> 
>> regards Henrik
> 
> It appears to me that the key is /etc/asound.conf
> 
> Would all of you (root, Clark & Henrik) be so kind as to post the 
> content of asound.conf along with a description of your sound card(s)?

root: I have removed both /etc/asound.conf and .asoundrc so that
I could control which sound device works with each application
independently. Getting sound does not depend on the contents
of those files.


> 
> In .mplayer/config are the section headers honored?  By that I mean 
> that if [gnome-mplayer] and [mplayer] both exist, will each 
> corresponding software only use the entries specific to it?  I get the 
> feeling that since gnome-mplayer is only a front end, it will look at 
> everything...
> --
> buck

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#1026

FromHenrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com>
Date2012-01-22 20:01 +0100
Message-ID<pan.2012.01.22.19.01.24.877987@deadspam.com>
In reply to#1022
buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> It appears to me that the key is /etc/asound.conf
> 
> Would all of you (root, Clark & Henrik) be so kind as to post the 
> content of asound.conf along with a description of your sound card(s)?

Most of my machines does not have any asound.conf. However, I used to have
that file on my previous motherboard in my mythtv frontend machine.

-8<-------------------
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave {
pcm "spdif"
rate 48000
format S16_LE
}
}
-8<-------------------

The machine only had a builtin soundcard on the (now broken) motherboard,
it is described at http://poolhem.se/video/

Maybe I will have to add such a file again when I get mythtv running on
the new motherboard.

regards Henrik
-- 
The address in the header is only to prevent spam. My real address is:
hc123(at)poolhem.se Examples of addresses which go to spammers:
root@localhost postmaster@localhost

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#1012

Frombuck <buck@private.mil>
Date2012-01-21 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<jff3ap0rer@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#999
root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote in news:jfcj78$8q0$1@news.albasani.net:

> buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
>> I suppose I could test this by installing XP on a hard drive to see
>> what XP does with it...
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the PNY VCG84512D3SPPB video card will produce
>> sound on the monitor when connected via an HDMI cable?
>> 
>> It does not for me when the proprietary NVIDIA 290.10 drivers are 
>> loaded, but I wonder if that's because I've messed up.
>> 
>> If it matters, this video card is PCI, not Express.
>> --
>> buck
> 
> 
> I wish you the best of luck. Post here if you succeed.
 
Well, "success" is relative...

In order to find out if the NVidia card had sound, I installed XP Pro 
SP2 on a spare HD.  The MoBo is Intel with onboard sound.  At first, I 
thought the Intel audio drivers had failed because Device Manager had 
"?" for several lines of sound devices, so I downloaded the most 
recent drivers from Intel for this MoBo.  No Joy; still "?".

Because onboard sound isn't important to me, I installed the NVidia 
DVD, which added the drivers for BOTH the sound and video.  Since I 
like it, I downloaded and ran Media Player Classic and VOILA, my movie 
(Halfblood Prince) is displayed with audio, and the monitor volume 
works as expected.  So far, I have had no success in moving the 
subtitles below the picture, which is discouraging.  But not as 
discouraging as having to run WinBLOWS to play DVD movies!  What is 
REALLY discouraging is all the freakin' reboots required to install 
XP.  This setup took several hours to accomplish and it is just a 
throwaway, needed only to prove/disprove an audio device on the video 
card.  I suppose it is A Good Thing that I heard the HDMI monitor's 
speakers at every stinking reboot???

Thus encouraged, I forged ahead with the Linux setup.  At the end of
  /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/html/audiosupport.html
I found a link to a very thorough - to the point of tedious - 
explanation:
  gpu-hdmi-audio.html
Using that, I found that my NVidia audio was the second device, so I 
created /etc/asound.conf containing
  pcm.!default hdmi:NVidia
to set it as the default sound card, and restarted alsa.  alsamixer 
found the device and allowed me to unmute all 4 S/PDIFs, and showed me 
that the onboard Intel audio was now the second device.  This was 
"necessary" because it is A Royal Pain to configure VLC or mplayer to 
use a non-default sound card.  For those who use gpu-hdmi-audio.html, 
do be careful to note the difference between the upper and lower case 
"L" in the "aplay -l" / "aplay -L" references.  I stumbled here 
<shrug>.  At least I didn't forget to run
  alsactl store
after unmuting.

Still following gpu-hdmi-audio.html, speaker-test showed that only one 
of the 4 DEVs produced sound, but now I do get white noise from each 
of the 2 stereo speakers - which is my "relative success" to this 
point.

When running
  aplay tada.wav
the resulting display complains that the sampling rate is too low, and 
sound is garbled.  Having no other .wav file to test with, I shrugged 
that off.  Using mplayer, Halfblood Prince displays beautifully and I 
can turn on subtitles, but there is no audio.  DAMN.  I'll see if 
changes to .mplayer/config in my home directory help, but I've given 
up for now.

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I've spent all the time I can afford for 
now, so I'm keeping the dual boot and using XP to play movies.  fsck.
--
buck

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#1013

FromTheGunslinger <mikiesrunsbaal.sec@sbcglobal.net>
Date2012-01-21 11:34 -0800
Message-ID<gd4mh7p6q8pi22dk27uge3re3hk6q49lad@4ax.com>
In reply to#998
On 20 Jan 2012 20:26:23 GMT, buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:

>I suppose I could test this by installing XP on a hard drive to see what 
>XP does with it...
>
>Does anyone know if the PNY VCG84512D3SPPB video card will produce sound 
>on the monitor when connected via an HDMI cable?
>
>It does not for me when the proprietary NVIDIA 290.10 drivers are 
>loaded, but I wonder if that's because I've messed up.
>
>If it matters, this video card is PCI, not Express.


On my laptop, I am sporting an NVidia GeForce GT230M with Conexant
Pebble High Definition Audio, and the NVidia High Definition Audio. 

HDMI supports video and sound, and I get full functionality on my HDTV
via the HDMI connectors.

I, also, have a desktop with HDMI, and no problems there. It's not
booted atm: so, I am unable to tell you the hardware installed. But it
has an NVidia video card with HDMI connectors, and I have used it with
my HDTV, also.

You might try re-installing the hardware drivers and/or upgrading.

IMHO,

MJR

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