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Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken.

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First post2011-11-13 09:16 +0100
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  Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken. "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2011-11-13 09:16 +0100
    Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-13 02:00 -0800
      Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken. André Gillibert <MetaEntropy.removeThis@gmail.com> - 2011-11-22 17:51 +0100
        Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2011-11-23 05:31 -0800

#802 — Re: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken.

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2011-11-13 09:16 +0100
SubjectRe: KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button is broken.
Message-ID<9i9cn6Fop1U1@mid.individual.net>
Ant wrote:

> Is it me or is KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button broken? I have to use
> Alsamixergui v1.00 to unmute "Master" stereo speakers for its audio to come
> back!

This is an issue with ALSA IMHO, it tend to get hiccups and you need to unmute 
master again.

Also KDE 3.5 is mainly unsupported nowadays, all the efforts been put into 
KDE4 and it starts to have most of the things KDE3.5 had, except some multi 
display supports (which has forced me to drop to a one monitor solution).

  Mute and volume controls work fine, but not unmute. It seems like KMix
> is not communicating with my ALSA's PulseAudio onboard audio (lspci showed
> "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio
> Controller").
>
> I am wondering why I don't get audio anymore even if KMix shows audio unmuted
> and at maximum volumes.

KMix kan be hooked to different volumes, say your master volume is muted and 
KMix is set to adjust PCM, then it may look like you have max volume and 
unmuted and still not a sound coming out.

Maybe you should change which source it should by default adjust?

-- 

   //Aho

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#803

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2011-11-13 02:00 -0800
Message-ID<WqmdnX30vdjOCCLTnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#802
On 11/13/2011 12:16 AM PT, J.O. Aho typed:

>> Is it me or is KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button broken? I have
>> to use Alsamixergui v1.00 to unmute "Master" stereo speakers for its audio to
>> come back!
>
> This is an issue with ALSA IMHO, it tend to get hiccups and you need to
> unmute master again.

Hmm, maybe I need to uninstall it? I can't remember if KDE relies on 
ALSA or if they are separated?


> Also KDE 3.5 is mainly unsupported nowadays, all the efforts been put
> into KDE4 and it starts to have most of the things KDE3.5 had, except
> some multi display supports (which has forced me to drop to a one
> monitor solution).

Ah.


>> Mute and volume controls work fine, but not unmute. It seems like KMix
>> is not communicating with my ALSA's PulseAudio onboard audio (lspci
>> showed
>> "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio
>> Controller").
>>
>> I am wondering why I don't get audio anymore even if KMix shows audio
>> unmuted
>> and at maximum volumes.
>
> KMix kan be hooked to different volumes, say your master volume is muted
> and KMix is set to adjust PCM, then it may look like you have max volume
> and unmuted and still not a sound coming out.
 >
> Maybe you should change which source it should by default adjust?

Kmix is set to Master for its "Master Channel". I tried telling it to 
use PCM, but that didn't work for volume controls, missing mute option, etc.

I guess I will have to use alsamixergui for now on for unmuting or use 
volume control. :(
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#843

FromAndré Gillibert <MetaEntropy.removeThis@gmail.com>
Date2011-11-22 17:51 +0100
Message-ID<20111122175129.3627928b@corefixtop.gillibert.homelinux.net>
In reply to#803
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> On 11/13/2011 12:16 AM PT, J.O. Aho typed:
> 
> >> Is it me or is KDE v3.5.10's KMix v2.6.1 unmute button broken? I have
> >> to use Alsamixergui v1.00 to unmute "Master" stereo speakers for its audio to
> >> come back!
> >
> > This is an issue with ALSA IMHO, it tend to get hiccups and you need to
> > unmute master again.
> 
> Hmm, maybe I need to uninstall it? I can't remember if KDE relies on 
> ALSA or if they are separated?
> 
> 
> > Also KDE 3.5 is mainly unsupported nowadays, all the efforts been put
> > into KDE4 and it starts to have most of the things KDE3.5 had, except
> > some multi display supports (which has forced me to drop to a one
> > monitor solution).
> 
> Ah.
> 
> 

If you don't like KDE4, you can use trinity. It's the continuation/fork
of KDE 3.5.

KDE 4.7 is much more complete and better than KDE 4.0, but, in my
experience with Fedora 15, I find it still too crashy (2 or 3
random crashes a day).

Your mileage may vary.

-- 
André Gillibert

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#848

FromAnt <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date2011-11-23 05:31 -0800
Message-ID<g9mdnfbVxaEvaFHTnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#843
On 11/22/2011 8:51 AM PT, André Gillibert typed:

> If you don't like KDE4, you can use trinity. It's the continuation/fork
> of KDE 3.5.
>
> KDE 4.7 is much more complete and better than KDE 4.0, but, in my
> experience with Fedora 15, I find it still too crashy (2 or 3
> random crashes a day).
>
> Your mileage may vary.

Ah. I haven't found its Debian packages in the official places yet: 
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=trinity&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all 
:(.
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