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cpu temperature

Started byRichard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com>
First post2011-10-31 08:54 -0500
Last post2011-11-01 23:39 +0000
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  cpu temperature Richard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com> - 2011-10-31 08:54 -0500
    Re: cpu temperature J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-10-31 14:10 +0000
      Re: cpu temperature Bob Tennent <BobT@cs.queensu.ca> - 2011-10-31 14:46 +0000
      Re: cpu temperature Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de> - 2011-11-01 20:30 +0100
        Re: cpu temperature Richard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-01 17:34 -0500
          Re: cpu temperature Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de> - 2011-11-02 19:21 +0100
            Re: cpu temperature Richard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-04 09:46 -0500
        Re: cpu temperature J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-11-01 23:39 +0000

#743 — cpu temperature

FromRichard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com>
Date2011-10-31 08:54 -0500
Subjectcpu temperature
Message-ID<gZqdnXEyyOIsNTPTnZ2dnUVZ8midnZ2d@giganews.com>
Since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 with kernel 3.0.0-12 I find that my cpu 
runs 5-10 degrees hotter with that than with 2.6.38-10 which I have moved 
back to.

Is this a known 'feature' of the new kernel?

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#744

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2011-10-31 14:10 +0000
Message-ID<j8ma8d$7aa$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#743
On Monday, October 31st, 2011 at 08:54:57h -0500, Richard Kimber wrote:

> Since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 with kernel 3.0.0-12 I find that my cpu
> runs 5-10 degrees hotter with that than with 2.6.38-10 which I have
> moved back to.
> 
> Is this a known 'feature' of the new kernel?

A web search would have revealed to you that others have also observed
this phenomenon.

<http://www.linuxquestions.ORG/questions/linux-kernel-70/linux-kernel-3-0-battery-life-power-consumption-896637/>

The power regression occurred in one of the 2.6.38 versions,
presumably after the version you were previously using.

<http://www.phoronix.COM/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTM3NQ>

Why the kernel development team have not fixed the issue
by now, is anybody's guess, unless it is fixed in 3.1.

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#745

FromBob Tennent <BobT@cs.queensu.ca>
Date2011-10-31 14:46 +0000
Message-ID<slrnjatd71.u6g.BobT@linus.cs.queensu.ca>
In reply to#744
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:10:22 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller wrote:
 
 > Why the kernel development team have not fixed the issue
 > by now, is anybody's guess, unless it is fixed in 3.1.

It's possible that the "regression" might have *fixed* a bug, and that a
side effect of this fix is increased power demand.

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#750

FromClemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Date2011-11-01 20:30 +0100
Message-ID<9havngF9hhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#744
J G Miller wrote:
> On Monday, October 31st, 2011 at 08:54:57h -0500, Richard Kimber wrote:
>> Since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 with kernel 3.0.0-12 I find that my cpu
>> runs 5-10 degrees hotter with that than with 2.6.38-10 which I have
>> moved back to.
>
> Why the kernel development team have not fixed the issue
> by now, is anybody's guess, unless it is fixed in 3.1.

That power management feature locks up the machine on some hardware
configurations which cannot be detected automatically.

Anyway, that would only affect PCIe, not the CPU.

Richard, if your temperature is measured with the coretemp driver (any
recent Intel CPU), it's possible that you see the effect of some bugfix
that corrected the temperature measurement offset (i.e., the actual
temperature did not change).


Regards,
Clemens

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#752

FromRichard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com>
Date2011-11-01 17:34 -0500
Message-ID<69qdnbbhSddB7i3TnZ2dnUVZ8nWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#750
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:30:52 +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:

> Richard, if your temperature is measured with the coretemp driver (any
> recent Intel CPU), it's possible that you see the effect of some bugfix
> that corrected the temperature measurement offset (i.e., the actual
> temperature did not change).

Actually, I'm using k10temp and it87 with AMD Phenom 2x4 3.0

- Richard.

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#756

FromClemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
Date2011-11-02 19:21 +0100
Message-ID<9hdg14Ftj5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#752
Richard Kimber wrote:
> I'm using k10temp and it87 with AMD Phenom 2x4 3.0

There have been no significant changes in k10temp.

Did the values of _both_ drivers change by a similar amount?
If yes, then your CPU indeed runs hotter.


Regards,
Clemens

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#757

FromRichard Kimber <richardkimber@btinternet.com>
Date2011-11-04 09:46 -0500
Message-ID<v5WdnVD_sId_Zy7TnZ2dnUVZ8hudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#756
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:21:20 +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:

> Did the values of _both_ drivers change by a similar amount? If yes,
> then your CPU indeed runs hotter.

Yes.

- Richard.

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#753

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2011-11-01 23:39 +0000
Message-ID<j8pvvt$gj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#750
On Tuesday, November 1st, 2011 at 20:30:52h +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:

> it's possible that you see the effect of some bugfix that corrected the
> temperature measurement offset (i.e., the actual temperature did not change).

Which could be a change to the sensors package (possible just an
entry in the sensors3.conf file) rather than the actual kernel its-self.

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