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cd will not eject

Started byfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
First post2013-10-30 09:29 +1100
Last post2013-10-31 21:03 +1100
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  cd will not eject faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1100
    Re: cd will not eject HASM <netnews@invalid.com> - 2013-10-29 15:42 -0700
    Re: cd will not eject Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2013-10-30 02:06 +0100
    Re: cd will not eject Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2013-10-30 13:05 +0000
    Re: cd will not eject "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2013-10-30 09:10 -0800
    Re: cd will not eject faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2013-10-31 09:20 +1100
      Re: cd will not eject notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-10-30 23:08 +0000
        Re: cd will not eject Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2013-10-30 23:26 +0000
          Re: cd will not eject notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-10-30 23:36 +0000
            Re: cd will not eject "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2013-10-30 21:29 -0800
            Re: cd will not eject faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2013-10-31 21:07 +1100
          Re: cd will not eject faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2013-10-31 21:05 +1100
        Re: cd will not eject faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2013-10-31 21:03 +1100

#2098 — cd will not eject

Fromfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
Date2013-10-30 09:29 +1100
Subjectcd will not eject
Message-ID<l4pcsg$i7l$1@dont-email.me>
This has been going on for years and it does infuriate me.

The procedure is this. 
I pop a new distro dvd into the drive and reboot. I get as far as the 
partitioning process and decide to continue another time.
So I try the eject button to no avail, then I reboot and attempt eject the 
disk. But the boot process runs straight through to the install disk again 
and it wont eject.

I have experienced this for years; am I the only one?
On some occasions I have damn near kicked the box across the room.

Why does eject not eject?
-- 
faeychild
Mandriva Linux release 2010.2 (Official) for i586
Running KDE 4.4.5 on 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb kernel.

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#2099

FromHASM <netnews@invalid.com>
Date2013-10-29 15:42 -0700
Message-ID<87eh73n1gy.fsf@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#2098
faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> writes:

> But the boot process runs straight through to the install disk again 
> and it wont eject.

Power the box down, push pin through the tiny hole in the face plate, press
to open, remove CD, close door, power up.

-- HASM

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#2100

FromJohann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net>
Date2013-10-30 02:06 +0100
Message-ID<52705b98$0$12680$91cee783@newsreader03.highway.telekom.at>
In reply to#2098
faeychild wrote:
>
> This has been going on for years and it does infuriate me.
>
> The procedure is this.
> I pop a new distro dvd into the drive and reboot. I get as far as the
> partitioning process and decide to continue another time.
> So I try the eject button to no avail, then I reboot and attempt eject the
> disk. But the boot process runs straight through to the install disk again
> and it wont eject.
>
> I have experienced this for years; am I the only one?
> On some occasions I have damn near kicked the box across the room.
>
> Why does eject not eject?

Those optical drives have a function to lock the tray. Linux sometimes 
does that unnecessarily.. not sure why... looks like it stayed during 
boot process. If you can get to a console, try the eject command. But it 
might not work with root filesystem mounted from that disk. It is likely 
distribution specific. AFAIR knoppix defaulted to eject the disk after a 
shutdown.

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#2101

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2013-10-30 13:05 +0000
Message-ID<l4r07c$4it$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2098
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:29:36 +1100, faeychild wrote:

> This has been going on for years and it does infuriate me.
> 
> The procedure is this. 
> I pop a new distro dvd into the drive and reboot. I get as far as the 
> partitioning process and decide to continue another time.
> So I try the eject button to no avail, then I reboot and attempt eject the 
> disk. But the boot process runs straight through to the install disk again 
> and it wont eject.
> 
> I have experienced this for years; am I the only one?
> On some occasions I have damn near kicked the box across the room.
> 
> Why does eject not eject?

Because the CD is mounted and "in use".

You can generally eject during the bios post, though you have to be quick
as sometimes the post will reload the drive. At worst hit Del or whatever
to enter bios setup so you have time to hit eject and get the disk out.

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#2102

From"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2013-10-30 09:10 -0800
Message-ID<1129.86T2097T5505330@kltpzyxm.invalid>
In reply to#2098
In article <l4pcsg$i7l$1@dont-email.me>, faeychild@noname.afraid.org
(faeychild) writes:

> This has been going on for years and it does infuriate me.
>
> The procedure is this.
> I pop a new distro dvd into the drive and reboot. I get as far as the
> partitioning process and decide to continue another time.
> So I try the eject button to no avail, then I reboot and attempt eject
> the disk. But the boot process runs straight through to the install
> disk again and it wont eject.
>
> I have experienced this for years; am I the only one?
> On some occasions I have damn near kicked the box across the room.
>
> Why does eject not eject?

Mounted CDs won't eject; you must unmount them first.

As for rebooting, you're probably waiting too long before trying
to eject the disc.  You should be able to eject it if you press
the button before the BIOS tries to access the drive.

-- 
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#2103

Fromfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
Date2013-10-31 09:20 +1100
Message-ID<l4s0mp$j48$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2098
faeychild wrote:

> 
> This has been going on for years and it does infuriate me.
> 
> The procedure is this.
> I pop a new distro dvd into the drive and reboot. I get as far as the
> partitioning process and decide to continue another time.
> So I try the eject button to no avail, then I reboot and attempt eject the
> disk. But the boot process runs straight through to the install disk again
> and it wont eject.
> 
> I have experienced this for years; am I the only one?
> On some occasions I have damn near kicked the box across the room.
> 
> Why does eject not eject?

Thanks to all.

I though powering down and rebooting would unlock the drive. Button timing 
and rate would be important because the button opens and closes tray.

I have also been caught with the tray closing on the half lifted disk.

Some years ago I had a tray open with the disk spinning flat out, that was 
fun.

All in all it's annoying
-- 
faeychild
Mandriva Linux release 2010.2 (Official) for i586
Running KDE 4.4.5 on 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb kernel.

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#2104

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-10-30 23:08 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl734iu.313.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#2103
On 2013-10-30, faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> wrote:

> All in all it's annoying

Sometimes, it's just a screwed up drive.  I have a CD player like
that.  Button no work.  Command no work.  The DVD player works fine, as does the USB CD/DVD drive.  I
gotta do the pin-thru-the-hole-trick, but otherwise nothing will open
it.  EXCEPT!! ...when I'm installing a new distro from multiple CDs.
When one CD is finished, the drive will open to insert next CD!!  ???
That's the only time.  Go figure.  ;)

nb

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#2105

FromKirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid>
Date2013-10-30 23:26 +0000
Message-ID<20131030191329.754@0.0.0>
In reply to#2104
On 2013-10-30, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
> On 2013-10-30, faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> All in all it's annoying
>
> Sometimes, it's just a screwed up drive.  I have a CD player like
> that.  Button no work.  Command no work.  
> The DVD player works fine, as does the USB CD/DVD drive.  I
> gotta do the pin-thru-the-hole-trick, but otherwise nothing will open
> it.  EXCEPT!! ...when I'm installing a new distro from multiple CDs.
> When one CD is finished, the drive will open to insert next CD!!  ???
> That's the only time.  Go figure.  ;)
>
> nb

You may in your case be able to use a term to eject
while in a GNU/Linux OS:
eject /dev/sr0 
eject /dev/sr1
eject /dev/sr2
and etc.
For which ever device your problem optical drive actually is.

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#2106

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-10-30 23:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl7367k.313.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#2105
On 2013-10-30, Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

> You may in your case be able to use a term to eject
> while in a GNU/Linux OS:
> eject /dev/sr0 
> eject /dev/sr1
> eject /dev/sr2
> and etc.
> For which ever device your problem optical drive actually is.

eject -v will tell which one it isn't (the other one), then jes add
<name>.  I did:

eject -v /dev/sr0
eject: device name is `/dev/sr0'
eject: expanded name is `/dev/sr0'
eject: `/dev/sr0' is not mounted
eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a mount point
eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a multipartition device
eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using CD-ROM eject command
eject: CD-ROM eject command failed
eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using SCSI commands
eject: SCSI eject failed
eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using floppy eject command
eject: floppy eject command failed
eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using tape offline command
eject: tape offline command failed
eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Currently researching "Inappropriate ioctl for device" errors.

nb

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#2107

From"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2013-10-30 21:29 -0800
Message-ID<1661.86T2879T12896192@kltpzyxm.invalid>
In reply to#2106
In article <slrnl7367k.313.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>, notbob@nothome.com
(notbob) writes:

> On 2013-10-30, Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> You may in your case be able to use a term to eject
>> while in a GNU/Linux OS:
>> eject /dev/sr0
>> eject /dev/sr1
>> eject /dev/sr2
>> and etc.
>> For which ever device your problem optical drive actually is.
>
> eject -v will tell which one it isn't (the other one), then jes add
> <name>.  I did:
>
> eject -v /dev/sr0
> eject: device name is `/dev/sr0'
> eject: expanded name is `/dev/sr0'
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not mounted
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a mount point
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a multipartition device
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using CD-ROM eject command
> eject: CD-ROM eject command failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using SCSI commands
> eject: SCSI eject failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using floppy eject command
> eject: floppy eject command failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using tape offline command
> eject: tape offline command failed
> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>
> Currently researching "Inappropriate ioctl for device" errors.

Have you tried /dev/cdrom?  Most distros I've used have a link
from /dev/cdrom to the actual CD-ROM's device entry.  It makes
life a little easier, especially when moving from machine to machine.

-- 
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#2110

Fromfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
Date2013-10-31 21:07 +1100
Message-ID<l4ta4o$fel$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2106
notbob wrote:


> 
> eject -v will tell which one it isn't (the other one), then jes add
> <name>.  I did:
> 
> eject -v /dev/sr0
> eject: device name is `/dev/sr0'
> eject: expanded name is `/dev/sr0'
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not mounted
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a mount point
> eject: `/dev/sr0' is not a multipartition device
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using CD-ROM eject command
> eject: CD-ROM eject command failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using SCSI commands
> eject: SCSI eject failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using floppy eject command
> eject: floppy eject command failed
> eject: trying to eject `/dev/sr0' using tape offline command
> eject: tape offline command failed
> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
> 
> Currently researching "Inappropriate ioctl for device" errors.
> 
> nb


it is becoming annoyingly complicated just to eject a disk
-- 
faeychild
Mandriva Linux release 2010.2 (Official) for i586
Running KDE 4.4.5 on 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb kernel.

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#2109

Fromfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
Date2013-10-31 21:05 +1100
Message-ID<l4ta25$fel$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2105
Kirk_Von_Rockstein wrote:


>>
>> nb
> 
> You may in your case be able to use a term to eject
> while in a GNU/Linux OS:
> eject /dev/sr0
> eject /dev/sr1
> eject /dev/sr2
> and etc.
> For which ever device your problem optical drive actually is.

 And during install that would be one of the virtual terminals, I guess..

A good thing to remember/

-- 
faeychild
Mandriva Linux release 2010.2 (Official) for i586
Running KDE 4.4.5 on 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb kernel.

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#2108

Fromfaeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org>
Date2013-10-31 21:03 +1100
Message-ID<l4t9sr$fel$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2104
notbob wrote:

> On 2013-10-30, faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> All in all it's annoying
> 
> Sometimes, it's just a screwed up drive.  I have a CD player like
> that.  Button no work.  Command no work.  The DVD player works fine, as
> does the USB CD/DVD drive.  I gotta do the pin-thru-the-hole-trick, but
> otherwise nothing will open
> it.  EXCEPT!! ...when I'm installing a new distro from multiple CDs.
> When one CD is finished, the drive will open to insert next CD!!  ???
> That's the only time.  Go figure.  ;)


 I don't have a convenient paper clip laying around
My fault,I know, but !!!!!

-- 
faeychild
Mandriva Linux release 2010.2 (Official) for i586
Running KDE 4.4.5 on 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb kernel.

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