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Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS??

From Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS??
Date 2012-02-29 20:49 +0100
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Aragorn a écrit :
> On Monday 27 February 2012 22:04, Pascal Hambourg conveyed the following 
> to comp.os.linux.hardware...
> 
>> Aragorn a écrit :
>>>
>>> By comparison, my 32-bit PCLinuxOS (with KDE 3.5.10) generally runs
>>> with just over 1 GB of RAM in use, cache included.  There is of
>>> course a difference in code complexity between KDE 3.5.10 and KDE
>>> 4.6.5, but still, I mainly attribute the memory consumption surplus
>>> here in Mageia to its 64-bit nature.
>>
>> Any /serious/ facts backing this opinion ?
> 
> If by "serious facts" you mean hard statistical evidence, then I do not 
> have that.

I am not so demanding.

> I do however have somewhat of an idea from what others who 
> have both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the same distribution installed 
> have reported across the various newsgroups I'm subscribed to.

That's fine for me.
I happen to have a double-side DVD of an openSUSE version, one side is
32-bit and the other is 64-bit. I'm planning to install both on the same
machine and compare by myself.

>> Comparing different OSes and software and claiming that the difference
>> is due to 32 vs 64-bit does not sound serious to me.
> 
> I wouldn't stretch that "different OSes and software" concept too much, 
> though.  PCLinuxOS is a Mandriva derivative, and so is Mageia.  The only 
> real difference at the operating system level is the package manager.  
> Both systems have 2.6 kernels - 2.6.26 for PCLinuxOS, 2.6.38 for Mageia.
> 
> That said, I did say that the PCLinuxOS distribution uses KDE 3.5 and 
> this Mageia here uses KDE 4.6.  Granted, there is a generational 
> difference at play there, but it's still KDE, and the KDE developers did 
> not exactly throw away _all_ of the code base of KDE 3 when they 
> developed KDE 4.

Obviously, your Mageia version is much more recent than your PCLinuxOS
version. Different versions of the kernel and KDE, different versions of
other packages, maybe different components too. I have used several
versions of 32-bit Mandriva and Debian and could see an increase in the
requirements and memory footprint of each new version. For example
Mandriva 2008 required 256 MB, Mandriva 2009 required 512 MB. After an
upgrade, I observed that BIND9 new version used twice as much memory as
the previous version. No need to switch from 32-bit to 64-bit to see an
increased memory footprint : just upgrade to a newer version.

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Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-02-27 18:07 +0000
  Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-27 20:05 +0100
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-27 20:39 +0100
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2012-02-27 22:04 +0100
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-28 00:06 +0100
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2012-02-29 20:49 +0100
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Dave <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2012-02-28 07:28 +0000
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2012-03-02 22:42 +0100
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-03-03 00:18 +0100
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-03-03 09:27 +0000
  Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? DenverD <DenverD@invalid.dk> - 2012-02-27 22:54 +0100
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SPAMvalette@free.fr> - 2012-02-27 23:46 +0100
  Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Stefan Patric <not@this.address.com> - 2012-02-28 02:32 +0000
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric VALETTE <ericNo.Spamvalette@free.fr> - 2012-02-28 10:04 +0100
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-28 11:30 -0600
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SPAMvalette@free.fr> - 2012-02-28 19:21 +0100
          Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-28 15:50 -0600
            Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-02-29 22:11 +0100
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SPAMvalette@free.fr> - 2012-02-28 19:23 +0100
          Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-28 15:51 -0600
            Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-02-29 22:45 +0100
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Stefan Patric <not@this.address.com> - 2012-02-28 20:32 +0000
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-02-29 22:12 +0100
          Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Stefan Patric <not@this.address.com> - 2012-03-01 05:47 +0000
            Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric VALETTE <ericNo.Spamvalette@free.fr> - 2012-03-01 10:32 +0100
              Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-03-01 13:54 -0600
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-03-02 23:18 +0100
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-03-05 15:08 -0600
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-03-02 23:18 +0100
              Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Stefan Patric <not@this.address.com> - 2012-03-02 00:40 +0000
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Eric Valette <EricNo.SpamValette@free.fr> - 2012-03-02 23:37 +0100
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Stefan Patric <not@this.address.com> - 2012-03-03 18:04 +0000
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-03-05 15:16 -0600
  Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-02-28 15:56 +0000
    Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Bob Tennent <BobT@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-28 16:52 +0000
      Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-02-28 19:24 +0000
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-28 15:53 -0600
          Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-02-28 22:15 +0000
            Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-28 17:12 -0600
              Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-02-29 02:43 +0000
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-29 12:35 -0600
                Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Bob Tennent <BobT@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-29 19:51 +0000
        Re: Atom netbook - 32 or 64 bit OS?? Bob Tennent <BobT@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-02-28 22:36 +0000

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