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Where's The Advocacy?

Started by"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
First post2018-04-17 00:32 +0000
Last post2018-04-23 13:27 -0700
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  Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-17 00:32 +0000
    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 08:18 -0700
      Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-17 13:12 -0700
        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 13:46 -0700
        Amazon, Google, Apple, MicroSoft, China, and Russia. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-17 15:04 -0700
        Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 07:00 -0500
          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 05:01 -0700
          Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 06:40 -0700
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 08:53 -0500
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:12 -0700
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:29 -0500
            At Amazon, Profit == Waste. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-18 07:18 -0700
              Re: At Amazon, Profit == Waste. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 10:32 -0700
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:59 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:18 -0500
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:25 -0700
                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 13:34 -0500
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 15:35 -0700
                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 23:07 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:19 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-18 14:33 -0400
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 13:23 -0700
                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-19 03:59 -0700
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 06:58 -0500
                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-19 11:27 -0400
                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 11:52 -0500
                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 03:52 -0700
                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 04:16 -0700
                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 06:58 -0500
                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 05:20 -0700
                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:09 -0700
                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 06:22 -0700
                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 08:31 -0500
                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:56 -0700
                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 09:23 -0500
                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-20 11:06 -0400
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 16:19 +0000
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 09:33 -0700
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:49 -0700
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:25 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:31 -0700
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:03 -0700
                                            Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-20 12:57 -0700
                                              Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-20 15:30 -0500
                                              Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:40 -0700
                                                Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:32 -0700
                                              Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 16:45 -0500
                                                Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-20 18:33 -0400
                                                  Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 19:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:33 -0400
                                                  Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-21 18:17 +0000
                                                    Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 19:38 -0500
                                                      Re: Some "girly boys" who couldn't handle PDP-11 assembly. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:48 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:38 -0400
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:14 +0000
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 08:28 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 08:57 -0700
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 17:10 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 17:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:23 -0700
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:41 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:30 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 14:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:43 -0700
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:03 -0700
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 09:37 -0700
                                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:45 -0700
                                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:30 -0700
                                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 11:51 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:09 -0500
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 05:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-24 18:00 -0500
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 15:14 -0700
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 15:50 -0700
                                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 16:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 00:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 17:15 -0700
                                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 02:38 -0700
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-25 10:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-25 11:39 -0500
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:43 -0400
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 11:49 -0500
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:24 -0700
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:48 -0400
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:18 -0700
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 10:13 -0700
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:34 -0400
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:39 -0400
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 08:48 -0400
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:11 -0400
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:27 -0700
                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 16:19 +0000
                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 09:20 -0700
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 11:44 -0500
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 10:16 -0700
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 13:07 -0500
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:50 -0700
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:42 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 22:48 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 03:55 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 04:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:05 -0700
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:49 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 22:45 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 19:12 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-20 22:54 +0100
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 09:46 -0700
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 11:13 -0700
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-20 11:37 -0700
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:37 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:00 +0000
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 04:19 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 14:53 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:04 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 15:49 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 15:57 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 12:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 19:56 +0000
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 14:01 -0700
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 15:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 11:25 -0400
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:01 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 09:32 -0700
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:44 +0000
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 16:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 18:04 -0400
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:12 -0500
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 12:44 +0000
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-24 14:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 08:41 -0700
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:58 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:20 -0700
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:27 -0700
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:23 -0700
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 14:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 15:22 -0700
                                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:36 -0700
                                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:42 -0700
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-22 11:58 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 12:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 12:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 09:50 -0400
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:19 -0700
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 09:59 -0400
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 14:06 +0000
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:09 -0400
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-22 15:13 +0000
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 11:24 -0400
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:29 -0700
                                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 18:02 -0400
                                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 15:33 -0700
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:26 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 15:30 +0000
                                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:34 -0700
                                                                What Apple gave us. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-23 10:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Apple gave us. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:33 -0700
                                                                    Re: What Apple gave us. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Apple gave us. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Apple gave us. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-23 15:35 -0400
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:25 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 13:25 -0700
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 23:19 +0000
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:08 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:06 +0000
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 00:53 +0000
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 18:20 -0700
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:09 -0700
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:11 -0400
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 13:41 -0500
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:39 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 14:57 -0500
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 13:22 -0700
                                              Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-20 13:59 -0700
                                                Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 14:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-20 22:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 05:50 -0700
                                                      Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 07:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:40 -0700
                                                  Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 10:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Google poured billions of dollars into FireFox. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:22 -0700
                                                  60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-21 01:24 -0700
                                                    Re: 60 search providers pre-installed across more than 90 languages. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:12 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 18:03 +0000
                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-21 15:39 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-22 00:07 +0000
                                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 08:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 09:31 -0700
                                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-22 16:47 +0000
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 10:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 10:44 -0700
                                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 11:21 -0700
                                                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:17 -0700
                                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 11:03 -0500
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:41 -0700
                                        Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 12:52 -0700
                                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 13:24 -0700
                                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-20 23:28 +0000
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 12:38 -0400
                                Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-20 07:51 -0700
                                  Re: Apple can't invest, not like Samsung or Amazon; it's profit sans reason. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 08:28 -0700
                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 06:31 -0700
                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-20 08:41 -0500
                          Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-20 10:17 -0400
                            Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 21:08 +0000
                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 14:20 -0700
                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-21 07:43 -0400
                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:40 -0400
                                  Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 08:50 -0400
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-22 10:10 -0400
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-22 16:51 -0400
                                    Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 03:01 -0700
                                      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 03:12 -0700
                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 17:53 +0000
                              Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:28 -0400
                                Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 00:20 +0000
          Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-18 10:38 -0400
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:03 +0000
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-18 22:19 +0000
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 21:48 -0700
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 07:33 -0500
              Hey COLA Tard,  ...  it is the Linux DE.  Or should it be:  UBUNTU/Linux DE? Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:42 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 05:54 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-19 11:43 -0400
          Re: Where's The Advocacy? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 20:34 +0000
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-20 19:13 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 02:59 -0700
        Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 10:35 -0700
          Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 11:17 -0700
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-18 12:07 -0700
              Re: Where's The Advocacy? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-18 13:34 -0700
                Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 18:59 -0700
            Re: Where's The Advocacy? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 14:17 -0500
        Re: Where's The Advocacy? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 12:16 -0700
      Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:28 -0700
    Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:27 -0700
      Re: Russell is the freak! Please die and get it over with, Poco. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 02:30 -0700
    Use Linux anyway you want to, Poco!  Moi certainly does. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 05:24 -0700
    Re: Where's The Advocacy? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:27 -0700

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#448636

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2018-04-21 04:19 -0700
Message-ID<77f97800-67aa-42f8-998d-f5c3bf784ad6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448612
On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 7:00:57 PM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:37:14 -0700, -hh wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Is that really the correct question to ask?  Perhaps you should
> > ask yourself why file extensions were created in the first place,
> > and then consider if they remain as necessary in IT systems when
> > they transitioned from Command Line Interfaces to Graphical UI's.  
> > 
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dimbulb!
> 
> Only on Microshit Winblows are file suffixes an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY.

Microsoft, Apple and Linux have all chosen to use metadata methods to
implement this feature into their UI.  MS's initial implementation method 
happened to be the file suffix, as that dated to the CLI bones of DOS.
Similarly, Apple hid their metadata in a file's Resource Fork, which included
a creator code and a file type code.  

> Otherwise, the Microshit OS won't know, literally, what to do with
> a file.

Except that "knowing what to do with it" is the whole point of having metadata 
to use in the first place. 

> That's why file extensions are such a big security headache on MS.
> Obfuscating an executable and then tricking the OS to run the program
> is child's play.  What a piss poor design!

How does the compare to how other OS's are set up?  You do realize that
classically, a malicious file could be created in Mac OS that ripped off the
icon of a data file of a legitimate App yet be a self-contained executable that 
then went and did mischief.   And a clever boy could certainly do the same
in Linux too.   
 
> But Microshit follows the "good" design philosophy of not burdening
> its dummy user base with such details as file type.

Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
Think about how it does that.  
 
> >> Then why GNU/Linux ports of Mathematica, Matlab, Maple, and
> >> many other packages?
> > 
> > Because generalizations aren't disproven by noting its exceptions.    
> 
> Wrong again.

Ha! 

 
> Wolfram and Matlab understand how software should be designed.  In fact,
> both packages predate GNU/Linux but the eventual porting proved to
> be no problem.

That it predates Linux is an elephant-sized clue in the room for you.

As well as other Apps that needed more RAM than earlier versions of Windows
could physically address: the OS wasn't suited to their customers' needs.

I can recall a project roughly two decades ago where we bought a dozen Xeon 
workstations to be able to get 4GB of addressable RAM, and even that then
proved out to not be enough, so these were replaced with a 32 CPU mini cluster.  


-hh

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#448645

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-04-21 14:53 +0000
Message-ID<pbfja102972@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#448636
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 04:19:18 -0700, -hh wrote:

> 
> Microsoft, Apple and Linux have all chosen to use metadata methods to
> implement this feature into their UI. 
>

There is no central authority in Linux that "chooses."  It is
up to the individual software developers to decide how to
determine file type.

Most authors employ the standard Unix method of examining the
file "magic," which is the most sensible and unambiguous
method.

But most authors also allow the user to configure a preferred
method.  On the file managers I use I can select for each file
type if the extension or the magic should be used.  This, again,
is the hallmark of superior design and it is the hallmark of
GNU/Linux.


> 
> Except that "knowing what to do with it" is the whole point of having metadata 
> to use in the first place. 
> 

Also totally incorrect.

The OS is never supposed to know what to do.  It is always the USER that
indicates the desired course of action.

That is another great fault of Microshit Winblows.  The OS strives to
determine a course of action for the user at nearly every point.  There
are established interventions and even an established directory structure.
In support of their dummy user base they have made their OS into a ridiculous
and unruly travesty.

> 
>  a malicious file could be created in Mac OS that ripped off the
> icon of a data file
>

"Icon?"  The correct term is "hieroglyph" and hieroglyphs are
characteristic of pre-literate and intellectually backward
people -- but that describes the user base of Microshit/Apphole.

>
> And a clever boy could certainly do the same
> in Linux too.   
>  

GNU/Linux doesn't use hieroglyphs.  Perhaps some degenerate distros,
like Ubuntu/Mint, may employ hieroglyphs but these junk distros
are not representative.

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#448678

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2018-04-21 12:04 -0700
Message-ID<8a296a69-676e-4972-beb5-65a3c4ffcbdf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448645
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 10:54:51 AM UTC-4, F. Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 04:19:18 -0700, -hh wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Microsoft, Apple and Linux have all chosen to use metadata methods to
> > implement this feature into their UI. 
> >
> 
> There is no central authority in Linux ...

Irrelevant.   

> It is up to the individual software developers to decide how to
> determine file type.
> 
> Most authors employ the standard Unix method of examining the
> file "magic," which is the most sensible and unambiguous
> method.

Which means that you're admitting that Linux OS employs this same
feature too, as a value-added for their users.  
 
> But most authors also allow the user to configure a preferred
> method.

Unfortunately, the more accessible the tool is, the easier it is to be misused.

 
> > Except that "knowing what to do with it" is the whole point of having metadata 
> > to use in the first place. 
> 
> Also totally incorrect.
> 
> The OS is never supposed to know what to do.  It is always the USER that
> indicates the desired course of action.

The User indicates their desired course of action by double-clicking on the file in 
the OS's GUI, and the User's expectation is that the OS will launch the relevant 
Application (as identified in the metadata), which then opens that file.   Clearly,
this requires OS support and "knowing what to do" (as per the file's metadata).
 
> That is another great fault of Microshit Winblows.  The OS strives to
> determine a course of action for the user at nearly every point.  There
> are established interventions and even an established directory structure.
> In support of their dummy user base they have made their OS into a ridiculous
> and unruly travesty.

And yet Linux happily copied this.   /S


> >  a malicious file could be created in Mac OS that ripped off the
> > icon of a data file
> >
> 
> "Icon?"  The correct term is "hieroglyph" and hieroglyphs are
> characteristic of pre-literate and intellectually backward
> people -- but that describes the user base of Microshit/Apphole.

Attempted pedantry fails to dispute the point, which was how to 
construct a basic Trojan for a social engineering based attack. 



> > And a clever boy could certainly do the same
> > in Linux too.   
> >  
> 
> GNU/Linux doesn't use hieroglyphs.  Perhaps some degenerate distros,
> like Ubuntu/Mint, may employ hieroglyphs but these junk distros
> are not representative.

Since it uses a GUI, it must employ some sort of element for file representation
in that UI, regardless of what one tries to pedantically name it.  

 
-hh

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#448650

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-21 15:49 +0000
Message-ID<sz9b0903.aho@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#448636
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
> Think about how it does that.  
>  

That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
of file.  As is the case with most gui applications, gui file managers
are notoriously inept, since you can simply add or change an extension and
confuse them (a la windoze), which is why only neophytes use such trash.

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#448652

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-04-21 15:57 +0000
Message-ID<pbfn0i01fva@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#448650
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 15:49:22 +0000, owl wrote:

> 
> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.
>

And it's ALL configurable.

On GNU/Linux, if it were my desire, I could implement file PREFIXES
instead of extensions (suffixes):

jpg.file01
jpg.file02
jpg.file03
ods.file01
ods.file02
...
...

Then, I could configure my file manager to act appropriately for
each file prefix.

Of course, I could also configure the FM to look at the magic, then
the prefixes/suffixes would be totally irrelevant/unnecessary.

If I had a need, I could also put my file type in the middle:

file-jpg-01
file-ods-02
...
...

Again, the FM could be configured to act appropriately.

Warning: Don't try this with Microshit Winblows.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  Microshit has the goddamned audacity
to issue a warning when the user attempts to change the file
suffix (extension).  Who is in control?  Who is in charge?

But then Microshit will also add the extension whether the user
adds it or not.  Nothing is more annoying than to save a file
as "file.txt" only to see it saved as "file.txt.txt".

Gimmee GNU/Linux any day.

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#448682

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2018-04-21 12:38 -0700
Message-ID<e14cd444-9473-4ae8-843e-5023820d0f12@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448650
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > 
> > Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
> > Think about how it does that.  
> 
> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
> of file.  

Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
namely that double-clicking a file in the GUI will result in the OS making
an association through the metadata to the relevant Application to then
launch and open that file with.  This productivity/convenience feature is
then a source of potential vulnerabilities, such as through spoofed
identity employed through a social engineering.

> As is the case with most gui applications, gui file managers are notoriously 
> inept, since you can simply add or change an extension and confuse them 
> (a la windoze), which is why only neophytes use such trash.

Having the extension so readily available to the user is what's probably
causing most of those problems.  Frankly, I don't touch them and only
very rarely have a problem at all.  On any of the OS's that I run.


-hh

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#448685

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-21 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<a9z8808b3.ahu3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#448682
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>> > 
>> > Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>> > Think about how it does that.  
>> 
>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>> of file.  
> 
> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,

What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?  This is a feature of
some X11 window managers or desktop environments.  It has nothing to
do with Linux.

> namely that double-clicking a file in the GUI will result in the OS making
> an association through the metadata to the relevant Application to then
> launch and open that file with.  This productivity/convenience feature is
> then a source of potential vulnerabilities, such as through spoofed
> identity employed through a social engineering.
> 
>> As is the case with most gui applications, gui file managers are notoriously 
>> inept, since you can simply add or change an extension and confuse them 
>> (a la windoze), which is why only neophytes use such trash.
> 
> Having the extension so readily available to the user is what's probably
> causing most of those problems.

No, the problem is going by file extension as stage 1.  There is no need
for that to determine the file type, or to assign a default application,
so I don't know why they employ that method at any stage.

anon@lowtide:~/datafiles$ ls
zh  zh.doc  zh.ogv  zh.png
anon@lowtide:~/datafiles$ file *
zh:     PNG image data, 960 x 540, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
zh.doc: PNG image data, 960 x 540, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
zh.ogv: PNG image data, 960 x 540, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
zh.png: PNG image data, 960 x 540, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
anon@lowtide:~/datafiles$ mimetype *
zh:     image/png
zh.doc: application/msword
zh.ogv: video/ogg
zh.png: image/png
anon@lowtide:~/datafiles$ mimetype -M *
zh:     image/png
zh.doc: image/png
zh.ogv: image/png
zh.png: image/png
anon@lowtide:~/datafiles$ 


>  Frankly, I don't touch them and only
> very rarely have a problem at all.  On any of the OS's that I run.
> 
> 

I don't bother with putting extensions on file names I manually create,
since there is no need for them.

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#448689

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2018-04-21 14:01 -0700
Message-ID<217b1675-751b-4918-8d41-775fa33c6546@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448685
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> -hh  wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >> -hh wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
> >> > Think about how it does that.  
> >> 
> >> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
> >> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
> >> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
> >> of file.  
> > 
> > Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
> > convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
> 
> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?  

It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
as found in MacOS and Windows.

> This is a feature of
> some X11 window managers or desktop environments.  It has nothing to
> do with Linux.

The implementation methodology doesn't matter AFAIC, as I'm merely focusing on
the very high level aspect of the GUI design.  Here, its what happens on a double-click.




 
> > namely that double-clicking a file in the GUI will result in the OS making
> > an association through the metadata to the relevant Application to then
> > launch and open that file with.  This productivity/convenience feature is
> > then a source of potential vulnerabilities, such as through spoofed
> > identity employed through a social engineering.
> > 
> >> As is the case with most gui applications, gui file managers are notoriously 
> >> inept, since you can simply add or change an extension and confuse them 
> >> (a la windoze), which is why only neophytes use such trash.
> > 
> > Having the extension so readily available to the user is what's probably
> > causing most of those problems.
> 
> No, the problem is going by file extension as stage 1.  There is no need
> for that to determine the file type, or to assign a default application,
> so I don't know why they employ that method at any stage.

I've already answered that.


-hh

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#448696

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-21 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<g8z0b793.abhuo3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#448689
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> -hh  wrote:
>> > On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> >> -hh wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>> >> > Think about how it does that.  
>> >> 
>> >> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>> >> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>> >> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>> >> of file.  
>> > 
>> > Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>> > convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>> 
>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?  
> 
> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
> as found in MacOS and Windows.
> 

The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
saying makes no sense. 

>> This is a feature of
>> some X11 window managers or desktop environments.  It has nothing to
>> do with Linux.
> 
> The implementation methodology doesn't matter AFAIC, as I'm merely focusing on
> the very high level aspect of the GUI design.  Here, its what happens on a double-click.
> 

There are scores of GUI interfaces that one can choose from and install
on a Linux PC.  You have no idea what does or does not happen on a given
GUI.  Double-clicking a file might well delete it.  Who knows?  Better
RTFM before double-clicking.
 
>  
>> > namely that double-clicking a file in the GUI will result in the OS making
>> > an association through the metadata to the relevant Application to then
>> > launch and open that file with.  This productivity/convenience feature is
>> > then a source of potential vulnerabilities, such as through spoofed
>> > identity employed through a social engineering.
>> > 
>> >> As is the case with most gui applications, gui file managers are notoriously 
>> >> inept, since you can simply add or change an extension and confuse them 
>> >> (a la windoze), which is why only neophytes use such trash.
>> > 
>> > Having the extension so readily available to the user is what's probably
>> > causing most of those problems.
>> 
>> No, the problem is going by file extension as stage 1.  There is no need
>> for that to determine the file type, or to assign a default application,
>> so I don't know why they employ that method at any stage.
> 
> I've already answered that.
> 

I must have missed it.  I guess it's gone forever.
 

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#448737

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-22 08:06 -0700
Message-ID<fk3mobF1ltpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#448696
On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>
>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>> of file.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>
>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>
>
> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
> saying makes no sense.

What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect 
sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used 
and packaged.

...

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#448744

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2018-04-22 15:18 +0000
Message-ID<iJ1DC.855650$hq2.552468@fx42.am4>
In reply to#448737
On 2018-04-22, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>
>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>
>>
>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>> saying makes no sense.
>
> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect 
> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used 
> and packaged.

Why are you lying?
>
> ...
>


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#448748

Froma.m <.m@nsn.s>
Date2018-04-22 11:25 -0400
Message-ID<o9apdd5usk2llhm0op3fq2hcdmc094s9s1@4ax.com>
In reply to#448744
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:18:38 GMT, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:

>On 2018-04-22, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>
>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>> saying makes no sense.
>>
>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect 
>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used 
>> and packaged.
>
>Why are you lying?

His alias also serves as a reason for all of his actions. 

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#448768

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-22 11:01 -0700
Message-ID<5a7c139c-198f-4b4d-87a3-1d89a33aa0ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448744
On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2018-04-22, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
> >> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >>>> -hh  wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >>>>>> -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
> >>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
> >>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
> >>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
> >>>>>> of file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
> >>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
> >>>
> >>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
> >>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
> >>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
> >> saying makes no sense.
> >
> > What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect 
> > sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used 
> > and packaged.
> 
> Why are you lying?

Why do rabbits run? Pigs snort? Fish swim?

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#448756

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-22 16:18 +0000
Message-ID<sz9b793ga.803@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#448737
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>
>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>
>>
>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>> saying makes no sense.
> 
> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect 
> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used 
> and packaged.
> 

You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
than absolute beginners.

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#448759

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-22 09:32 -0700
Message-ID<fk3rpcF2ptaU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#448756
On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>   wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>
>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>> saying makes no sense.
>>
>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
>> and packaged.
>>
>
> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
> than absolute beginners.
>
>

You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving 
goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.

Not interested.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#448760

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-22 16:44 +0000
Message-ID<xp9z80b.l11@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#448759
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>   wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>>
>>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>>> saying makes no sense.
>>>
>>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
>>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
>>> and packaged.
>>>
>>
>> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
>> than absolute beginners.
>>
>>
> 
> You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving 
> goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.
> 
> Not interested.
> 

Yes you are.  You are struggling to understand why Linux users, who
are the most sophisticated computer users on the planet, hate Mack.
Maybe they don't need to make flyers?  Did you ever think about that?

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#448792

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-04-22 16:45 -0400
Message-ID<pbit8h$i10$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#448760
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
>>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>>>> saying makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
>>>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
>>>> and packaged.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
>>> than absolute beginners.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving 
>> goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.
>> 
>> Not interested.
>
> Yes you are.  You are struggling to understand why Linux users, who
> are the most sophisticated computer users on the planet, hate Mack.
> Maybe they don't need to make flyers?  Did you ever think about that?

LOL

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#448805

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-22 15:38 -0700
Message-ID<0d62c034-6844-4399-b839-5e6cca71ed1f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#448792
On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 2:02:11 PM UTC-7, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
> >>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
> >>>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
> >>>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>   wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >>>>>>> -hh  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
> >>>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
> >>>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
> >>>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
> >>>>>>>>> of file.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
> >>>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
> >>>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
> >>>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
> >>>>> saying makes no sense.
> >>>>
> >>>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
> >>>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
> >>>> and packaged.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
> >>> than absolute beginners.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> 
> >> You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving 
> >> goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.
> >> 
> >> Not interested.
> >
> > Yes you are.  You are struggling to understand why Linux users, who
> > are the most sophisticated computer users on the planet, hate Mack.
> > Maybe they don't need to make flyers?  Did you ever think about that?
> 
> LOL
> 
> -- 
> Lady Luck brings added income today.  Lady friend takes it away tonight.



It's a prank call. bartc has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say is beside the point. What Dog Fucker Paul F. Riddle says is irrelevant. 

Who does NOT know that this kind of phooey is bartc's MO, not the modus operandi of Dog Fucker Paul F. Riddle? It's all just projection... the flooding, the forging, the writing of word-twisted nonsense, the anger... the diaper rash and tendency to show how butthurt he is over being kicked from the playground for shitting in it again... bartc can not help himself ;) 

For others I would simply say it is dubious. Given that it's bartc I would ignore that step and go straight to 'drug-induced delusion' because that's most of what bartc does. IOW, he's earned it. 

Everyone is bartc -- the oldest gag in the book. What do you get out of lying? 



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http://comp.os.linux.advocacy.narkive.com/711dskzA/steven-petruzzellis-admits-he-can-not-back-his-claims-about-snit
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU_evUKollmjeuJy5V5UMotPUs65Q7YM6
https://youtu.be/48_DdtLGR9s
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#448798

Froma.m <.m@nsn.s>
Date2018-04-22 18:04 -0400
Message-ID<tm1qddh4mkg5v0fr05mforl4ucdenhh1aq@4ax.com>
In reply to#448760
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC), owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
wrote:

>Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
>>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>>>> saying makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
>>>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
>>>> and packaged.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
>>> than absolute beginners.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving 
>> goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.
>> 
>> Not interested.
>> 
>
>Yes you are.  You are struggling to understand why Linux users, who
>are the most sophisticated computer users on the planet, hate Mack.
>Maybe they don't need to make flyers?  Did you ever think about that?

You mean forced obsolescence and a walled garden don't appeal to all
computer users? Colour me stunned.

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#448802

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-22 15:33 -0700
Message-ID<fk4gu1F7guqU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#448798
On 4/22/18, 3:04 PM, a.m wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC), owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>>> On 4/22/18, 9:18 AM, owl wrote:
>>>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>   wrote:
>>>>> On 4/21/18, 4:15 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>    wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:49:24 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you double-click a data file in Linux and it opens the corresponding App?
>>>>>>>>>>> Think about how it does that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That depends on which gui file manager you are using.  Most first look
>>>>>>>>>> at the extension (if there is one), then mime type, and use whatever
>>>>>>>>>> application has been set as that file manager's default for that type
>>>>>>>>>> of file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, but this is merely pointing out that Linux has also adopted the
>>>>>>>>> convention of the feature present in Apple's and MS's current OS's,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "Linux has adopted" this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It means that on a nominal Linux OS using PC, if you doubleclick a file,
>>>>>>> it launches the corresponding App to open said file, the same behavior
>>>>>>> as found in MacOS and Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Linux is not a GUI OS, and doesn't require a mouse, so what you are
>>>>>> saying makes no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> What he is saying does not make sense to YOU... but it makes perfect
>>>>> sense to those of us who understand how desktop Linux is generally used
>>>>> and packaged.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know very little about how desktop Linux is used by anyone other
>>>> than absolute beginners.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You failed to understand what -hh was talking about and are now moving
>>> goal posts to your own ego and belittling others.
>>>
>>> Not interested.
>>>
>>
>> Yes you are.  You are struggling to understand why Linux users, who
>> are the most sophisticated computer users on the planet, hate Mack.
>> Maybe they don't need to make flyers?  Did you ever think about that?
>
> You mean forced obsolescence and a walled garden don't appeal to all
> computer users? Colour me stunned.

Use what you like... but it is curious that you show such insecurity.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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