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OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media

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  OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 01:30 +0000
    Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:31 -0500
    Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-22 19:21 -0500
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 01:51 +0000
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 18:27 -0800
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 02:36 +0000
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 18:58 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 19:36 -0800
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 23:38 -0800
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 01:42 -0800
            China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-23 06:34 -0800
              Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:03 -0800
                Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:07 +0000
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:12 -0800
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:13 -0800
                    Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:27 -0500
                      Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 15:50 -0800
                    Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 12:07 -0700
                  Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-23 07:27 -0800
                    Re: Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 08:35 -0800
                    Re: Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 10:43 -0600
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:25 -0500
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 11:54 -0700
                Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 12:04 -0700
              Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:27 -0800
              Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 10:59 -0600
                China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-23 10:37 -0800
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 12:50 -0600
                    Killing Christians and selling their organs. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-23 11:07 -0800
                      Re: Killing Christians and selling their organs. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 13:49 -0600
                  Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 11:07 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 12:44 -0500
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:44 +0000
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 12:38 -0500
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 09:48 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 12:32 -0600
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:44 -0500
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-24 06:45 -0600
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 19:46 +0000
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:52 +0000
              Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 13:27 -0800
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:47 -0500
              Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 00:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:54 +0000
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:54 +0000
    Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 06:57 -0600
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 13:55 +0000
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:07 -0800
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 09:43 -0600
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 08:14 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 08:18 -0800
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:27 +0000
            Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 10:34 -0600
              Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 09:01 -0800
              Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:32 -0500
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:33 +0000
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 18:26 +0000
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:47 +0000
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:32 +0000
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:21 -0500
      Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2019-01-24 00:35 +0100
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 00:10 +0000
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 16:21 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 16:37 -0800
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 21:44 -0500
        Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 21:30 -0500
          Re: OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 19:12 -0800

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#485533 — OT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-22 01:30 +0000
SubjectOT: Another "ooops" for the Mainstream Media
Message-ID<q25rn6$4h2$1@dont-email.me>
The goombahs in the self-righteous, PC left and their enablers in the 
mainstream media, were pulling out their long knives to disembowel Catholic 
kids from a Kentucky Catholic high school for their "disrespect" in 
"surrounding" and "confronting" a Native American veteran protester — all 
the while wearing their (supposedly) "racist" "Make America Great Again" 
caps. Oh how they howled and demagogued about Trump and how he encourages 
"racism" with his policies ... and then, the rest of the video became 
available and, as it turned out, the Catholic kids (who were there to 
protest against abortion) were the ones being verbally attacked by black 
racists ... and the Native American veteran approached them (as he put it) 
to pray for them and separate them from the black "protesters." Can we 
expect apologies from the smarmy, self-righteous, jump-the-gun mainstream 
media PC pundits? Yeah, right. Don't make me laugh. They're, no doubt, 
already getting it wrong on yet another story.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#485676

Fromsilverslimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2019-01-22 14:31 -0500
Message-ID<nbre4edjm3d1r6ksa65dshdnt7tuag8ard@4ax.com>
In reply to#485533
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 01:30:14 -0000 (UTC), RonB
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>The goombahs in the self-righteous, PC left and their enablers in the 
>mainstream media, were pulling out their long knives to disembowel Catholic 
>kids from a Kentucky Catholic high school for their "disrespect" in 
>"surrounding" and "confronting" a Native American veteran protester — all 
>the while wearing their (supposedly) "racist" "Make America Great Again" 
>caps. Oh how they howled and demagogued about Trump and how he encourages 
>"racism" with his policies ... and then, the rest of the video became 
>available and, as it turned out, the Catholic kids (who were there to 
>protest against abortion) were the ones being verbally attacked by black 
>racists ... and the Native American veteran approached them (as he put it) 
>to pray for them and separate them from the black "protesters." Can we 
>expect apologies from the smarmy, self-righteous, jump-the-gun mainstream 
>media PC pundits? Yeah, right. Don't make me laugh. They're, no doubt, 
>already getting it wrong on yet another story.

I don't expect these people to apologize because I've noticed that
leftists, in general, never apologize for anything no matter how
provably guilty they are of it. The best you can get is an admission
that they "might have gotten something wrong." In most cases, they
will try to manipulate the situation to make you apologize instead
even if you're the victim.

With that in mind, the best course of action is to simply ignoer all
of them and cancel cable so that they receive any kind of financial
support from you. I know who I trust and who I don't and I can't help
notice that the trustworthy ones are on the Internet and often
deplatformed whereas the constant liars are pushed on me despite the
countless occurrences of fake news. 

To Hell with all of them. 

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#485708

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2019-01-22 19:21 -0500
Message-ID<q28ddp$m89$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#485533
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>

People jump to the closest thing at hand.

Get over it, dude.

-- 
You will probably marry after a very brief courtship.

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#485726

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 01:51 +0000
Message-ID<q28hbr$3jk$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#485708
On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>
>
> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
>
> Get over it, dude.

"Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"

You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
lying fuck-ups. 

What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
these liars.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#485730

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-22 18:27 -0800
Message-ID<48f0f8a4-3400-497f-8558-30b3e36436ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485726
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 6:51:58 PM UTC-7, RonB wrote:
> On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >
> >>
> >
> > People jump to the closest thing at hand.
> >
> > Get over it, dude.
> 
> "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> 
> You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> lying fuck-ups. 
> 
> What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> these liars.
> 
> -- 
> The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.



Rudy Canoza claims that he uses Android, while really he never timed it on a modern device and faithfully tried it. I bet Rudy Canoza does not even know what is wrong with Trump. Now that nobody is speaking to Rudy Canoza, he's making it sound like he's outsmarted us all -- when in fact, people are just sick of his shit. 

Rambling cretin. Don't be insane, chap... even you have blocked that loon. Given what he is no one could blame you for working to be rid of his preposterous style of farce. Given how regularly it seems that Rudy Canoza's .sig file is some exaggeration of a remark William Poaster made which had been  a thrashing on Rudy Canoza for something he did which was crazy/fallacious/etc... its clearly a repeated sign of Rudy Canoza's unending embarrassment for having been so often crushed: Rudy Canoza is obviously not able of being slapped down. 

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#485731

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-23 02:36 +0000
Message-ID<pl19a90b803.ah3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485726
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>>
>>
>> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
>>
>> Get over it, dude.
> 
> "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> 
> You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> lying fuck-ups. 
> 
> What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> these liars.
> 

The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility the they might
have had.  I don't see it ever recovering.  (Not that anyone seems to want
it to recover).  America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.

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#485733

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-22 18:58 -0800
Message-ID<084b4214-77b3-4db6-9e9c-58d3a86c7475@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485731
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7:36:40 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
> >>
> >> Get over it, dude.
> > 
> > "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> > having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> > crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> > victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> > 
> > You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> > libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> > ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> > frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> > lying fuck-ups. 
> > 
> > What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> > these liars.
> > 
> 
> The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility the they might
> have had.  I don't see it ever recovering.  (Not that anyone seems to want
> it to recover).  America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.



From the way Satan complained - by demanding details of the OS and so on - he's never figured out a computationally complex challenge before. Otherwise he'd have understood the requirements of learning to use the && and || operators! 

Thankfully the person you are attacking is in my kill filter. Satan asked to be rated according to objective trolling criteria, which I accommodated. At one point, he said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was defined as responding to any name he uses. 



--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"
Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

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#485736

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-22 19:36 -0800
Message-ID<c3d6162b-20d3-4026-85ec-c07c911f392e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485731
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7:36:40 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
> >>
> >> Get over it, dude.
> > 
> > "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> > having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> > crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> > victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> > 
> > You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> > libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> > ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> > frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> > lying fuck-ups. 
> > 
> > What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> > these liars.
> > 
> 
> The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility the they might
> have had.  I don't see it ever recovering.  (Not that anyone seems to want
> it to recover).  America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.

Lol! Relax. I disagree that we’re done, we’re just starting a well
needed rebirth... the deSnitification of America is *long* overdue.
Things will get worse before they get better but it’ll happen. The 
24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel because of crap
like this and that’s all we need to begin to turn things around.

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#485740

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-22 23:38 -0800
Message-ID<12e89860-c22e-41f0-a585-aaa816896a0e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485736
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:36:56 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7:36:40 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> > RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
> > >>
> > >> Get over it, dude.
> > > 
> > > "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> > > having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> > > crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> > > victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> > > 
> > > You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> > > libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> > > ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> > > frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> > > lying fuck-ups. 
> > > 
> > > What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> > > these liars.
> > > 
> > 
> > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility the they might
> > have had.  I don't see it ever recovering.  (Not that anyone seems to want
> > it to recover).  America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> 
> Lol! Relax. I disagree that we’re done, we’re just starting a well
> needed rebirth... the deSnitification of America is *long* overdue.
> Things will get worse before they get better but it’ll happen. The 
> 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel because of crap
> like this and that’s all we need to begin to turn things around.



I sometimes intoxicate beetles with my brain. Hubble and Troll Master Steve Carroll had their no-gos and their erratum. But one played it cool and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be obfuscated with a larger scandal. 

Pay for a background report on Troll Master Steve Carroll and you will learn that he was in prison earlier this year. Not surprising to anyone. The online reports fail to go into that degree of detail and court lists have to be court ordered. 

I bet Troll Master Steve Carroll does not even know what is wrong with Trump. 

Nobody who isn't just using you for nefarious goals sees you as anything remotely close to honest. You have nobody but yourself to credit for that. Nobody is being controlled by Apple. 

Things change. Maybe the concept of a newspaper is getting outdated. 

Ha! Come on, Klaus Schadenfreude... even you have kill filtered that dunce. Given what he is (and does) nobody should condemn me for seeking to be rid of his risible form of trolling. 

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#485749

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 01:42 -0800
Message-ID<d2681314-b330-4f53-a757-94082c10d2d4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485736
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:36:56 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7:36:40 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> > RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2019-01-23, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> People jump to the closest thing at hand.
> > >>
> > >> Get over it, dude.
> > > 
> > > "Get over" lying and shoddy reporting? These kids and their families are 
> > > having their lives threatened because of lying reporting. They, not the 
> > > crazed black racists or the lying and protesting native American, were the 
> > > victims Are you willing to tell these kids to "get over it?"
> > > 
> > > You see, this is why it becomes more than partisan politics for me. The 
> > > libtards are absolutely intolerant of anyone who opposes them or their 
> > > ideals, and when they jump the gun and screw up a story entirely in their 
> > > frothing frenzy to attack anything conservative, they NEVER admit they're 
> > > lying fuck-ups. 
> > > 
> > > What small-minded assholes. And your "get over it" puts you in league with 
> > > these liars.
> > > 
> > 
> > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility the they might
> > have had.  I don't see it ever recovering.  (Not that anyone seems to want
> > it to recover).  America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> 
> Lol! Relax. I disagree that we’re done, we’re just starting a well
> needed rebirth... the deSnitification of America is *long* overdue.
> Things will get worse before they get better but it’ll happen. The 
> 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel because of crap
> like this and that’s all we need to begin to turn things around.



How Steven 'The Fool' Petruzzellis determines when to use the stupid flood script to best emulate the style of Klaus Schadenfreude's posts  http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. 

My view is that we should ALL report the flooding and then it will stop. Steven 'The Fool' Petruzzellis can't get anything else to work, either. Virtually everything Steven 'The Fool' Petruzzellis says about what Klaus Schadenfreude has done is dishonest but he thinks he is fooling people. 

Steven 'The Fool' Petruzzellis asked to be rated according to objective trolling criteria, which I accommodated. Seriously, what lie? Well... like I said, Klaus Schadenfreude would never deny the flooder is Steven 'The Fool' Petruzzellis, who is a self professed web developer but I don't know if it could be used to spam like this. 

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#485768 — China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-23 06:34 -0800
SubjectChina takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--6.34am.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#485736
> > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> 
> The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel

A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 

Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.

China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

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#485769 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 07:03 -0800
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<7739a864-e82c-4af6-8f74-29e8c41d2b4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485768
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> > 
> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
> 
> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
> 
> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
> 
> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.

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#485771 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-23 15:07 +0000
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<x2993ta09a.3ap3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485769
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
>> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
>> > 
>> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
>> 
>> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
>> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
>> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
>> 
>> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
>> 
>> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
>> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
>> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> 
> I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
> when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
> against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
> call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
> stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
> really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
> personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
> fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.

I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg

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#485773 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 07:12 -0800
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<6ac824c8-6f80-4a9c-8ace-777826b06707@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485771
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> >> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> >> > 
> >> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
> >> 
> >> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
> >> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
> >> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
> >> 
> >> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
> >> 
> >> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
> >> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
> >> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> > 
> > I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
> > when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
> > against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
> > call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
> > stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
> > really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
> > personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
> > fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.
> 
> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg



I'm guessing, after blocking all the trolling from William Poaster, it is principally just two of them authoring 95% of the bombardment. Crystal clear. And both absolutely whackadoodle dingbats. 

Who does NOT know that this kind of hooey is William Poaster's modus operandi, not the modus operandi of Steve Carroll? It's all just projection... the trolling, the forging, the writing of incomprehensible idiocy, the animosity... the panties in a twist and eagerness to show how flustered he is over being banned from the schoolyard for pissing in it again... all of it ;) Why do you keep rephrasing yourself? 

The bulk of the regulars in this forum do application development either as a necessity or as a career, so I have doubts Steve Carroll consider writing macros to be "impossible". William Poaster wants to punish us: If he can't have dominate conversations here then his flooding crap will. 

He makes false accusation to an entire group of people who are mere civilians, but that's a self-centered troll for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor. I can tell from the way William Poaster complained - by being ignorant of fundamentals of the operating system and so on - he's never handled an algorithmically challenging program. If he had he would have understood the requirements to not create thousands of 'launchers'! Steve Carroll messed with William Poaster as much as he deserves, big fricking deal. Why be a crying asshole about it? 

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#485774 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 07:13 -0800
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<31ad4fbe-a570-4487-a7c5-9eff7fe1aeb0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485771
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> >> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> >> > 
> >> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
> >> 
> >> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
> >> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
> >> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
> >> 
> >> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
> >> 
> >> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
> >> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
> >> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> > 
> > I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
> > when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
> > against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
> > call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
> > stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
> > really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
> > personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
> > fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.
> 
> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg

When I've previously stated I believe America needs 
'a Trump' at times like this I really meant it. He's not
perfect, in fact, as a person, I think he's similar to
Glasser (narcissistic, lies pathologically, etc.) but
that doesn't mean he isn't a good fit for some long 
overdue course correction. He's getting activists 
judges replaced, he reversed many of Obama's more
wacky policies that weren't working and he's single
handedly punched the entire media in the face...
and he does all this stuff *before* breakfast ;)

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#485861 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

Fromsilverslimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2019-01-23 18:27 -0500
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<33uh4e1p1e2gpg4mfrvkf3ealkj8gk29vs@4ax.com>
In reply to#485774
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:13:48 -0800 (PST), Steve Carroll
<fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> >> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
>> >> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
>> >> > 
>> >> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
>> >> 
>> >> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
>> >> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
>> >> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
>> >> 
>> >> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
>> >> 
>> >> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
>> >> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
>> >> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
>> > 
>> > I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
>> > when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
>> > against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
>> > call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
>> > stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
>> > really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
>> > personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
>> > fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.
>> 
>> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
>> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg
>
>When I've previously stated I believe America needs 
>'a Trump' at times like this I really meant it. He's not
>perfect, in fact, as a person, I think he's similar to
>Glasser (narcissistic, lies pathologically, etc.) but
>that doesn't mean he isn't a good fit for some long 
>overdue course correction. He's getting activists 
>judges replaced, he reversed many of Obama's more
>wacky policies that weren't working and he's single
>handedly punched the entire media in the face...
>and he does all this stuff *before* breakfast ;)

That's why this shirt...

<https://teespring.com/TrumpGrowingStronger?tsmac=store&tsmic=markdice#pid=369&cid=6513&sid=front>

... is so awesome.

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#485870 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 15:50 -0800
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<12f4bf09-8a50-494c-8daa-cacf6c5d0db1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485861
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 4:27:54 PM UTC-7, silverslimer wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:13:48 -0800 (PST), Steve Carroll
> <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> >> > > The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
> >> >> > > might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
> >> >> 
> >> >> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
> >> >> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
> >> >> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
> >> >> 
> >> >> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
> >> >> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind. 
> >> >> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
> >> > 
> >> > I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
> >> > when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
> >> > against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
> >> > call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
> >> > stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
> >> > really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
> >> > personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
> >> > fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.
> >> 
> >> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
> >> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg
> >
> >When I've previously stated I believe America needs 
> >'a Trump' at times like this I really meant it. He's not
> >perfect, in fact, as a person, I think he's similar to
> >Glasser (narcissistic, lies pathologically, etc.) but
> >that doesn't mean he isn't a good fit for some long 
> >overdue course correction. He's getting activists 
> >judges replaced, he reversed many of Obama's more
> >wacky policies that weren't working and he's single
> >handedly punched the entire media in the face...
> >and he does all this stuff *before* breakfast ;)
> 
> That's why this shirt...
> 
> <https://teespring.com/TrumpGrowingStronger?tsmac=store&tsmic=markdice#pid=369&cid=6513&sid=front>
> 
> ... is so awesome.



Give it up, dog... even you have blocked that doofus. Given what Steve 'Super Troll' Petruzzellis is (and does) nary a soul should condemn you for seeking to be rid of his form of nonsense. 

Advertising is a wonderful thing and consumer stupidity is even better. 

Almost all Linux users in this forum do scripting either as a necessity or as a job, so I am skeptical Rudy Canoza consider automation to be "impossible". Which regular knows PHP, is an insomniac, has hacked Rudy Canoza's ID, has an obsession and is a colossal whining man-child who, when he is called out, posts ignorant claptrap even when he's _not_ flooding... AND... who tries to attributes everything he is doing on "others" and has for his whole life? 

You never take blame for your own actions. Quotes that are easily shown in the Google archive. 



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#486100 — Re: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-28 12:07 -0700
SubjectRe: China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
Message-ID<gb927tFiqdvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#485774
On 1/23/19 8:13 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:07:32 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>>> The "press" have completely destroyed whatever credibility they
>>>>>> might've had.  [...] America is done for.  Thanks, libtards.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 24/7 brainwashing campaign will start to unravel
>>>>
>>>> A thousand years ago, most had no books at all.
>>>> Later, we had one book: the Bible ( or Koran ).
>>>> Then one newspaper ( in remote towns ).  Then one TV channel.
>>>>
>>>> Now, NutJobs can broadcast WorldWide.
>>>>
>>>> China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela believe they
>>>> can they can control people's thoughts, and rob them blind.
>>>> China takes down pictures of Jesus and replaces them with JinPing Xi.
>>>
>>> I hear ya, but the U.S. has a very different value system
>>> when it comes to this stuff. There is already a backlash
>>> against bogus reporting going on. Now, even people who
>>> call themselves 'liberals' are starting to join it. FWIW, this
>>> stuff, being directly attributable to hatred for Trump, is
>>> really based on his ability to effectively use his bizarre
>>> personality against those who oppose him. I find it all
>>> fascinating... in a 'plane wreck' fashion.
>>
>> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
>> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/001/997/b78.jpg
> 
> When I've previously stated I believe America needs
> 'a Trump' at times like this I really meant it.

I do not think there is any time for such incompetence in the White 
House, no less such capitulation to Russia or any other hostile foreign 
power.

> He's not
> perfect, in fact, as a person, I think he's similar to
> Glasser (narcissistic, lies pathologically, etc.) but
> that doesn't mean he isn't a good fit for some long
> overdue course correction.

Your obsession with me is getting the better of you.

> He's getting activists
> judges replaced,

He is working to get in judges who are clearly not capable...

> he reversed many of Obama's more
> wacky policies that weren't working

Such as?

> and he's single
> handedly punched the entire media in the face...

He has shown he loathes the idea of democracy which needs a strong 
media. ANY government which attacks a free media as he does should worry 
ANYONE in ANY democracy (or democratic republic).

> and he does all this stuff *before* breakfast ;)



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#485777 — Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-23 07:27 -0800
SubjectToo many chiefs, not enough Indians.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.23--7.27am.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#485771
Speaking of the anti-Trump hysteria, Owl wrote:
> I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)

Spoiled Americans are nearly useless; 
we need "illegal" immigrants.
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

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#485792 — Re: Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 08:35 -0800
SubjectRe: Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
Message-ID<d431d528-c316-4195-ae1b-9b1928d8e4e9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485777
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 8:27:32 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Speaking of the anti-Trump hysteria, Owl wrote:
> > I find it awesome.  They fucked with the wrong guy. :)
> 
> Spoiled Americans are nearly useless; 
> we need "illegal" immigrants.

People are people, not all illegals are willing to work hard, 
plenty are content to get gov't handouts just like any other
lazy person. We all need to face facts, the gaming of the
system by *everyone*, legal or illegal, has to stop. The idea
that we have an endless supply to help everyone is just a
Utopian pipe dream. 

The bottom line is... if you're actually a country, you need
borders and you need to protect them. If you're actually a
country, you need laws and you need to enforce them. If
you're actually a country and plan on staying one, you need
to find ways to incentivize working, not handouts, because
that number will only ever grow. The middle class is being
eroded... 'It's the rich!', we're told, but it isn't, it's politicians
who spend like drunken sailors. Look at the convo I had 
with hh about southern CA, he notes their fiscal issues but
stops short of blaming the 'pipe dream' policies that we all
know have completely ruined that once great state. Insane.

> Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

What's so wrong with fixing/following immigration law and
just going with legal immigration? We're *gonna* have illegal
stuff going on anyway, so why condone it? Cue up someone 
calling themself a 'liberal' saying they don't condone it...
but if you watch actions instead of just listening to the 
chatter you see the reality of the situation.

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