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| First post | 2025-04-30 17:17 -0400 |
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Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 17:17 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-30 19:27 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 01:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-05-01 07:52 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 08:56 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 14:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 19:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 01:01 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 22:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:37 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 09:08 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 02:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 08:14 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 19:59 +1000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-02 17:54 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 21:19 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 12:06 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 01:52 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-05-02 11:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 20:51 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:55 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 10:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 20:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-05-01 10:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 17:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 08:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 08:51 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 19:22 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-05-01 07:11 -0500
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 09:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:05 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:51 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 21:51 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 09:11 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-02 12:35 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 19:47 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 02:16 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 07:41 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 16:01 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 04:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:24 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 00:37 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 04:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-04 20:04 +1000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 08:08 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:17 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 18:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-05 08:39 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-05 20:22 +1000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:54 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-04 20:08 +1000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:24 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 07:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-04 16:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:03 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:41 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-15 21:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 10:33 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 21:48 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:39 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 09:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:07 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 14:52 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 22:55 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 19:46 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:53 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 13:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 10:40 -0400
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft admits 30% of code not written by humans Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:08 +0000
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 20:08 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vv7eb7$1nucr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689944 |
On 4/05/2025 2:37 pm, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 5/3/2025 10:24 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sat, 3 May 2025 19:47:31 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> On 2025-05-03 19:06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> But wasn’t that going against Trump’s declared goal of annexing Canada? >>>> >>>> Or did you not agree with that part of the MAGA ideology? >>> >>> To be fair, he said that Canada would benefit from being a part of the >>> United States, and I agree with him on that point. >> >> "We’re taking care of their military," Trump said. "We're taking >> care of every aspect of their lives, and we don't need them to >> make cars for us. In fact, we don't want them to make cars for us. >> We want to make our own cars. We don't need their lumber. We don't >> need their energy. We don't need anything from Canada. And I say >> the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a >> state." >> >> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-wasnt-trolling-about-acquiring-greenland-canada-51st-state> >> > They do need the lumber actually. > > There is an area with fire damage on the west coast, > and they could use wood for the reconstruction as > part of fire cleanup. Hmm! Using WOOD as part of a FIRE Clean-up?? Am I the only one seeing a problem there?? ;-P -- Daniel70
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 13:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv87sb$2f6r2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689955 |
On Sun, 5/4/2025 6:08 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 4/05/2025 2:37 pm, Paul wrote: >> On Sat, 5/3/2025 10:24 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sat, 3 May 2025 19:47:31 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-05-03 19:06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But wasn’t that going against Trump’s declared goal of annexing Canada? >>>>> >>>>> Or did you not agree with that part of the MAGA ideology? >>>> >>>> To be fair, he said that Canada would benefit from being a part of the >>>> United States, and I agree with him on that point. >>> >>> "We’re taking care of their military," Trump said. "We're taking >>> care of every aspect of their lives, and we don't need them to >>> make cars for us. In fact, we don't want them to make cars for us. >>> We want to make our own cars. We don't need their lumber. We don't >>> need their energy. We don't need anything from Canada. And I say >>> the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a >>> state." >>> >>> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-wasnt-trolling-about-acquiring-greenland-canada-51st-state> >>> >> They do need the lumber actually. >> >> There is an area with fire damage on the west coast, >> and they could use wood for the reconstruction as >> part of fire cleanup. > > Hmm! Using WOOD as part of a FIRE Clean-up?? Am I the only one seeing a problem there?? ;-P Dollar for dollar, wood frame construction is one of the cheapest ways to build domiciles. That is how we can have single family dwellings and home ownership. Other material choices would price single family dwellings out of the market. More robust materials, it's harder to drive fasteners into them. There are articles available on "disaster proof" homes, but I expect there will still be practical issues that will make them too expensive. For some, you would not get approval from city hall. For the hilly country where the fire occurred, if you remove all the vegetation to reduce fire risk, then there will be landslides from erosion. It's not exactly the easiest place to live, in the first place. Our country is getting drier, and there are forest fires all summer long here. We need to build more water bombers for the fires. The scale of the problem is different now. When fighting fire now, we elect to let some of them burn, because... we could not stop them, even if we wanted to. Too big. Too hot. But if settlement or cities are involved, they get priority. Fire is a natural part of forest renewal. Back when the environment in the forest was a bit cooler, it was a bit damper, and the fires did not burn into the roots. This allows land to start the regeneration process in two years. With the drier climate, the tree type is not really optimal for the temp and climate, and the areas should be replanted with some other kind of tree. Up to the point, that the environment is so bad, that no tree will grow. If you allow a land to erode sufficiently, it will desertify, so a worst case would be for a large desert to open up. Paul
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 08:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7oo0eFdg5qU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689943 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 02:24:14 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > "We’re taking care of their military," Trump said. "We're taking > care of every aspect of their lives, and we don't need them to make > cars for us. In fact, we don't want them to make cars for us. > We want to make our own cars. We don't need their lumber. We don't > need their energy. We don't need anything from Canada. And I say the > only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state." Softwood lumber imports have been a bone of contention way before Trump. The last lumber mill here is now a concert venue. The pulp mill is a toxic waste site. I guess a lot of trees breathed a sign of relief. There were a lot of politics involved but part of the reason the Vermont Yankee and Maine Yankee nuclear plants were shut down was cheap Quebec hydro. My 1986 Ford F150, the iconic US pickup, was built in Canada so that's nothing new either.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 07:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6vIRP.3$adP7.2@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #689943 |
On 2025-05-03 22:24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2025 19:47:31 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> On 2025-05-03 19:06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> But wasn’t that going against Trump’s declared goal of annexing Canada? >>> >>> Or did you not agree with that part of the MAGA ideology? >> >> To be fair, he said that Canada would benefit from being a part of the >> United States, and I agree with him on that point. > > "We’re taking care of their military," Trump said. "We're taking > care of every aspect of their lives, and we don't need them to > make cars for us. In fact, we don't want them to make cars for us. > We want to make our own cars. We don't need their lumber. We don't > need their energy. We don't need anything from Canada. And I say > the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a > state." > > <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-wasnt-trolling-about-acquiring-greenland-canada-51st-state> And he is correct. He doesn't say anything about using the military to take us over there either. He wants the United States to be self-sufficient because it is best for the country, and I want the same for Canada. If he doesn't want GM cars to be built here, that's fine: it might cause Canadian companies to invest in a new company to build cars here much like Sweden with Polestar. There are also Japanese cars being built here and their production has been unaffected. Even if no Canadian company emerges, the result is going to be that American cars will sell even more poorly here to the advantage of Japanese ones. It's not like American cars have superior reliability or better features than cars by Honda or Toyota or even a more interesting price, so why would anyone other than the GM/Ford workers and their families care? As for our oil and lumber, we have enough of it to be self-sufficient. We sell both at a loss to the United States; using it here and paying at least as much as it costs to produce it can only benefit us. Besides, other countries such as China need both, so why should the United States get to decide how much it will pay for a resource that can be sold for a greater price elsewhere? Trump is fixing his country, but he's also forcing us to fix ours. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 16:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv8ho3$2ob3n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689958 |
On Sun, 5/4/2025 7:49 AM, CrudeSausage wrote: > Trump is fixing his country, but he's also forcing us to fix ours. > Not in evidence. A global recession is easier to predict. What happens afterwards, is a random number generator. I would look at the available markets, to predict where my products would be welcome. Should we join OPEC ? Should we be part of a cartel ? We might have to think about topics like that, in order to survive. The thing is, if you engaged your brain cells, you would have realized long ago, that "business games EVERYTHING governments do". "The tariff on China is too high, I will move my production to Vietnam." Notice how, given a choice, a businessman will never do what your silly policy intended. The more complex the rules of the game, the more the rules get gamed. That's why companies don't pay any taxes. The current "plan" is to move electronics production to... Saudi Arabia. Or at least, that's what a Saudi wealth fund proposes. Paul
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-10 01:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <102809t$rmtv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689975 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 16:12:50 -0400, Paul wrote: > The thing is, if you engaged your brain cells, you would > have realized long ago, that "business games EVERYTHING > governments do". What about Government-owned businesses?
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-10 01:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1028gij$12jgu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #692204 |
On Mon, 6/9/2025 9:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 16:12:50 -0400, Paul wrote: > >> The thing is, if you engaged your brain cells, you would >> have realized long ago, that "business games EVERYTHING >> governments do". > > What about Government-owned businesses? > I could write a book on the topic, and, I have no interest in it :-) Paul
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-15 21:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <102nciq$14c9g$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #692210 |
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 01:41:38 -0400, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 6/9/2025 9:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Sun, 4 May 2025 16:12:50 -0400, Paul wrote: >> >>> The thing is, if you engaged your brain cells, you would have realized >>> long ago, that "business games EVERYTHING governments do". >> >> What about Government-owned businesses? >> > I could write a book on the topic, and, I have no interest in it :-) My point was, no matter how you look at it, that would have to be an exception to your claim that “business games EVERYTHING that governments do”.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 13:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1016up4.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689789 |
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.] On 2025-05-01, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > CrudeSausage wrote: > >>Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively >>destroying jobs for human beings. >> >><https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/> >> >>In a discussion at Metas inaugural LlamaCon AI developer event, >>Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on >>the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development >>within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent >>of Microsofts code is now written by AI. >> >>CNBC reports that during a conversation at Metas LlamaCon AI developer >>event in Silicon Valley Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella revealed that as >>much as 30 percent of the companys code is now written by AI. This >>startling revelation highlights the rapid integration of AI in the >>software development process. > > Thank God for AI! An improved Farcebook experience is a genuine asset > and a huge improvement to our lives and to our global competitiveness! > > Meanwhile, China applies AI and robotics to increase manufacturing > efficiencies, out-pacing us *ever more*. > Yeah, the West is screwed. Priorities are all mixed up. China will build an army and manufacturing capacity, and we'll be building better web tracking, ad deployment techniques and food delivery apps.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 10:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <YCLQP.2$oqNa.0@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #689793 |
On 2025-05-01 09:46, Borax Man wrote: > ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.] > On 2025-05-01, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively >>> destroying jobs for human beings. >>> >>> <https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/> >>> >>> In a discussion at Metas inaugural LlamaCon AI developer event, >>> Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on >>> the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development >>> within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent >>> of Microsofts code is now written by AI. >>> >>> CNBC reports that during a conversation at Metas LlamaCon AI developer >>> event in Silicon Valley Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella revealed that as >>> much as 30 percent of the companys code is now written by AI. This >>> startling revelation highlights the rapid integration of AI in the >>> software development process. >> >> Thank God for AI! An improved Farcebook experience is a genuine asset >> and a huge improvement to our lives and to our global competitiveness! >> >> Meanwhile, China applies AI and robotics to increase manufacturing >> efficiencies, out-pacing us *ever more*. >> > > Yeah, the West is screwed. Priorities are all mixed up. > > China will build an army and manufacturing capacity, and we'll be > building better web tracking, ad deployment techniques and food delivery > apps. I think that the West is screwed because China has already infiltrated the electoral process here and installed people loyal to their state. I know it's the case here and that the party that just won had a few _known_ CCP agents running for a seat. The result is that the laws being introduced are in line with what they've been pushing in China for a while. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 00:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv14ol$3rgrd$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689800 |
On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:33:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > I think that the [US] is screwed because China has already infiltrated > the electoral process here and installed people loyal to their state. You can easily tell who they are, though: they are the ones making decisions that are weakening the US and turning it into an international laughing stock vis-à-vis the rest of the world, including China.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 21:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4wVQP.28970$quzb.5396@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #689831 |
On 2025-05-01 20:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:33:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I think that the [US] is screwed because China has already infiltrated >> the electoral process here and installed people loyal to their state. > > You can easily tell who they are, though: they are the ones making > decisions that are weakening the US and turning it into an international > laughing stock vis-à-vis the rest of the world, including China. Yep, and they're all within the Democratic party and most of them are located in California. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 04:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv1i9r$bfqb$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689837 |
On Thu, 1 May 2025 21:48:48 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-05-01 20:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:33:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> I think that the [US] is screwed because China has already infiltrated >>> the electoral process here and installed people loyal to their state. >> >> You can easily tell who they are, though: they are the ones making >> decisions that are weakening the US and turning it into an >> international laughing stock vis-à-vis the rest of the world, including >> China. > > Yep, and they're all within the Democratic party and most of them are > located in California. “Deep State” again? (And Biden is still running the US economy, apparently.)
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 09:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Vw3RP.4$LiG1.3@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #689846 |
On 2025-05-02 00:39, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 2025 21:48:48 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> On 2025-05-01 20:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:33:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> I think that the [US] is screwed because China has already infiltrated >>>> the electoral process here and installed people loyal to their state. >>> >>> You can easily tell who they are, though: they are the ones making >>> decisions that are weakening the US and turning it into an >>> international laughing stock vis-à-vis the rest of the world, including >>> China. >> >> Yep, and they're all within the Democratic party and most of them are >> located in California. > > “Deep State” again? > > (And Biden is still running the US economy, apparently.) Biden doesn't even run his bowels anymore. Anyone who is suggesting that he still has a hand to play in the American economy is insane. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 23:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv67ja$hbt1$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689855 |
On Fri, 2 May 2025 09:12:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-05-02 00:39, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Thu, 1 May 2025 21:48:48 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> On 2025-05-01 20:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, 1 May 2025 10:33:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think that the [US] is screwed because China has already >>>>> infiltrated the electoral process here and installed people loyal to >>>>> their state. >>>> >>>> You can easily tell who they are, though: they are the ones making >>>> decisions that are weakening the US and turning it into an >>>> international laughing stock vis-à-vis the rest of the world, >>>> including China. >>> >>> Yep, and they're all within the Democratic party and most of them are >>> located in California. >> >> “Deep State” again? >> >> (And Biden is still running the US economy, apparently.) > > Biden doesn't even run his bowels anymore. Anyone who is suggesting that > he still has a hand to play in the American economy is insane. That must include Trump, then.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7hg5dF8mvgU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689793 |
On Thu, 1 May 2025 13:46:12 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > Yeah, the West is screwed. Priorities are all mixed up. > > China will build an army and manufacturing capacity, and we'll be > building better web tracking, ad deployment techniques and food delivery > apps. I think the term 'service economy' goes back to the late '60s but by the '80s pundits were suggesting the US would become a service economy and do away with all those nasty old smokestack industries. The move was well on its way. Part of it was the oil embargo but industry started moving out in the '70s.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv3igs$24n33$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689767 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively > destroying jobs for human beings. Or the same number of humans are generating more code. > <https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/> > > In a discussion at Meta’s inaugural “LlamaCon” AI developer event, > Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on > the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development > within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent > of Microsoft’s code is now written by AI. Note the "up to". You've been had by a Breitbart headline.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 19:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DPcRP.27367$0jW7.6115@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #689880 |
On 2025-05-02 18:55, Chris wrote: > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively >> destroying jobs for human beings. > > Or the same number of humans are generating more code. > >> <https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/> >> >> In a discussion at Meta’s inaugural “LlamaCon” AI developer event, >> Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on >> the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development >> within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent >> of Microsoft’s code is now written by AI. > > Note the "up to". You've been had by a Breitbart headline. So, you're suggesting that we shouldn't be concerned because the number might be 28 or 27? -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 23:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv440l$2neep$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689889 |
On Fri, 5/2/2025 7:46 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-05-02 18:55, Chris wrote:
>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively
>>> destroying jobs for human beings.
>>
>> Or the same number of humans are generating more code.
>>
>>> <https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/>
>>>
>>> In a discussion at Meta’s inaugural “LlamaCon” AI developer event,
>>> Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on
>>> the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development
>>> within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent
>>> of Microsoft’s code is now written by AI.
>>
>> Note the "up to". You've been had by a Breitbart headline.
>
> So, you're suggesting that we shouldn't be concerned because the number might be 28 or 27?
>
“I'd say maybe 20 to 30 percent of the code that is inside of our repos
today in some of our projects are probably all written by software,” the chief exec said."
^^^^^^^^
Apparently, we've all jumped to the wrong conclusions.
That's not a reference to vibe coding. He chose
his words carefully, and we did not notice the word
was not "AI".
Now it does not matter what the percentage is.
We need clarification, on what his repos are full of.
I thought the word Python was a little strange in this diatribe.
Is there a binary code generation step ?
Maybe there is a language lawyer in the audience, who can
circle the squares on this plumb.
Paul
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 13:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv55kk$3kcrb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689889 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-05-02 18:55, Chris wrote: >> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> Another reason not to use Microsoft's software: they are actively >>> destroying jobs for human beings. >> >> Or the same number of humans are generating more code. >> >>> <https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/30/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-reveals-30-of-companys-code-written-by-ai/> >>> >>> In a discussion at Meta’s inaugural “LlamaCon” AI developer event, >>> Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg shed light on >>> the growing role of artificial intelligence in software development >>> within their respective companies. Nadella claims that up to 30 percent >>> of Microsoft’s code is now written by AI. >> >> Note the "up to". You've been had by a Breitbart headline. > > So, you're suggesting that we shouldn't be concerned because the number > might be 28 or 27? It's a moral panic. Why are you concerned at all?
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