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  GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> - 2025-03-22 13:16 +0000
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-22 13:43 +0000
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-23 07:45 -0400
    Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-24 10:17 -0400
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:53 -0400
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-24 11:20 -0400
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-30 13:43 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-30 13:37 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-24 16:45 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 17:17 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-24 13:32 -0400
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 15:40 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:14 -0400
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 23:30 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 19:44 -0400
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-10 19:45 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-10 19:46 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 01:53 -0400
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-24 17:06 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-24 13:45 -0400
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:46 +0000
            Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 22:42 +0000
              Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 07:37 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:54 -0400
                  Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 05:45 +0000
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 19:30 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 12:06 -0700
          Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-25 02:23 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-30 13:59 +0000
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-24 21:53 -0400
      Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-31 22:34 +0000
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 19:08 -0400
        Re: GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-01 09:44 -0400

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#687795 — GIMP 3.0.0 Is Here!

Outwardly, the only difference is that the UI is now based in
GTK3 and hence it is themeable.  Who has the fucking time to
fiddle with themes?

But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.

A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
of dilettantes certainly do. 



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#687796

Le 22-03-2025, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
Great. Another display of your stupidity. Let's have fun. I'm rarely
using Gimp and didn't tried the version 3.0.0 yet so, I have nothing to
say about it. I don't know if I find it better or worse than before. I
only know you display unrelated lack of knowledge which is a good and
easy point to bash another of your messages.

Mind you: I have version 3.0.0-1 installed so don't start with your
distro lackey statement believing I can't install anything my distro
wouldn't fit necessary. To test it, I just need to launch it. But I
don't need to use it now, so, I won't launch it now.

> Who has the fucking time to fiddle with themes?

You. You do nothing good with your time, so fiddling with themes would
be something you could do when waiting for your kernel's compilation to
fail.

> But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
> UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.

In fact, it is. The only way to dismiss the UI would be to use only the
terminal. But as you are unable to use a terminal, the UI is critical,
even for you. If you can't realize it, it shows only you don't know what
you do. It proves, once again, that when you despise something, it's not
because you have technical arguments, but because it would become
mandatory for you to learn something new.

> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI 

Of course it's plain wrong. Your lack of knowledge is just showing. Once
again. If you write in black ink on black background, you won't be able
to read what's written. So, having a big contrast is very important. If
you have only a menu with thousand of entries, you'll be unable to find
the entry you are looking for. So, when you are on a GUI, the UI is
critical. And as you are always using a GUI, your inability to
understand it shows only your inability to understand anything you are
criticizing. As always, you show a big mouth with a lack of brain.

> but the hordes of dilettantes certainly do. 

Nonsense. At least, it's more inspired than your habitual "idiot"
limited insult.

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#687854

Lester Thorpe wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> Outwardly, the only difference is that the UI is now based in
> GTK3 and hence it is themeable.  Who has the fucking time to
> fiddle with themes?

Me. Takes time to find a good dark theme.

> But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
> UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.
>
> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
> of dilettantes certainly do. 

I see that both Debian Sid and Arch got it around March 17.

That'll teach the DOGE bros:

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Please update your programs.

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#687943

On 2025-03-22 09:16, Lester Thorpe wrote:
> Outwardly, the only difference is that the UI is now based in
> GTK3 and hence it is themeable.  Who has the fucking time to
> fiddle with themes?
> 
> But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
> UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.
> 
> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
> of dilettantes certainly do.
> 
> 
> 
I wasn't aware that one had to be a "true image pro" to use GIMP. Good 
to know.

Guess that means I'll have to stop. I'm not now, nor have I ever been, a 
"true image pro." That must be why I hate the dark theme that's been the 
UI default for some time. I find it distracting. First thing I do when 
installing on a new computer is restore it to the lighter "System" 
theme. Sacrilege.

I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare 
planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified 
farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields 
drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.

Very useful when describing the plan to those entrusted with carrying it 
out. But now I have to give all that up, because GIMP is only for "true 
image pros."

TJ

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#687946

On 2025-03-24 10:17, TJ wrote:
> On 2025-03-22 09:16, Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> Outwardly, the only difference is that the UI is now based in
>> GTK3 and hence it is themeable.  Who has the fucking time to
>> fiddle with themes?
>>
>> But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
>> UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.
>>
>> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
>> of dilettantes certainly do.
>>
>>
>>
> I wasn't aware that one had to be a "true image pro" to use GIMP. Good 
> to know.
> 
> Guess that means I'll have to stop. I'm not now, nor have I ever been, a 
> "true image pro." That must be why I hate the dark theme that's been the 
> UI default for some time. I find it distracting. First thing I do when 
> installing on a new computer is restore it to the lighter "System" 
> theme. Sacrilege.
> 
> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare 
> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified 
> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields 
> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
> 
> Very useful when describing the plan to those entrusted with carrying it 
> out. But now I have to give all that up, because GIMP is only for "true 
> image pros."

I imagine that the tone of what's written above is sarcastic, but if you 
aren't already aware, Larry "Lester Thorpe Diego Garcia Fabian Russell" 
Pietraskiewicz is a laughing stock. Stéphane Carpentier seems to come to 
Usenet strictly to make fun of him and his poor ideas.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#687950

On 2025-03-24 10:53, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-03-24 10:17, TJ wrote:
>> On 2025-03-22 09:16, Lester Thorpe wrote:
>>> Outwardly, the only difference is that the UI is now based in
>>> GTK3 and hence it is themeable.  Who has the fucking time to
>>> fiddle with themes?
>>>
>>> But virtually all criticisms of the GIMP are directed to the
>>> UI as if the UI is somehow highly significant.
>>>
>>> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
>>> of dilettantes certainly do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wasn't aware that one had to be a "true image pro" to use GIMP. Good 
>> to know.
>>
>> Guess that means I'll have to stop. I'm not now, nor have I ever been, 
>> a "true image pro." That must be why I hate the dark theme that's been 
>> the UI default for some time. I find it distracting. First thing I do 
>> when installing on a new computer is restore it to the lighter 
>> "System" theme. Sacrilege.
>>
>> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare 
>> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified 
>> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields 
>> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
>>
>> Very useful when describing the plan to those entrusted with carrying 
>> it out. But now I have to give all that up, because GIMP is only for 
>> "true image pros."
> 
> I imagine that the tone of what's written above is sarcastic, but if you 
> aren't already aware, Larry "Lester Thorpe Diego Garcia Fabian Russell" 
> Pietraskiewicz is a laughing stock. Stéphane Carpentier seems to come to 
> Usenet strictly to make fun of him and his poor ideas.
> 
My part was indeed sarcasm, but I must be losing my edge if there was 
doubt about that. I used to be much better at it. Maybe I wasn't annoyed 
quite enough yet.

As for Lester, I know nothing of him, other than the ridiculously 
elitist message that started this thread. I don't usually frequent this 
group, but I failed to notice it was the only one in the followup field 
when I replied to the message on comp.os.linux.misc.

TJ

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#688444

Le 24-03-2025, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> a écrit :
> As for Lester, I know nothing of him, other than the ridiculously 
> elitist message that started this thread.

There is nothing to know about him. He despise everyone except Linus
Torvalds and Richard Stallman. He despise everything except Linux, C and
Perl even if he lacks the minimum knowledge to master them. And in Linux
he despise everything that's neither LFS nor gentoo with the inability
to manage them.

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#688443

Le 24-03-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
>
> I imagine that the tone of what's written above is sarcastic, but if you 
> aren't already aware, Larry "Lester Thorpe Diego Garcia Fabian Russell" 
> Pietraskiewicz is a laughing stock. Stéphane Carpentier seems to come to 
> Usenet strictly to make fun of him and his poor ideas.

He's not the only reason I'm here. He's a big part of the fun, that's
clear, but I can live without reading and answering his messages.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#687953

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:

> 
> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare 
> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified 
> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields 
> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
> 

You would probably be better served with GIS (Geographic Information System)
software such as GRASS GIS for Linux:

https://grass.osgeo.org/download/linux/

GIMP is for basic image manipulation on plain old raster image formats.
Attempting to shoehorn such a program into GIS analysis is just asking
for problems.


-- 
Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#687959

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:45:12 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:
> 
> 
>> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare
>> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified
>> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields
>> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
>> 
>> 
> You would probably be better served with GIS (Geographic Information
> System)
> software such as GRASS GIS for Linux:
> 
> https://grass.osgeo.org/download/linux/
> 
> GIMP is for basic image manipulation on plain old raster image formats.

QGIS is cross platform and would seem like a better match. 
> Attempting to shoehorn such a program into GIS analysis is just asking
> for problems.

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#687963

On 2025-03-24 12:45, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare
>> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified
>> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields
>> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
>>
> 
> You would probably be better served with GIS (Geographic Information System)
> software such as GRASS GIS for Linux:
> 
> https://grass.osgeo.org/download/linux/
> 
> GIMP is for basic image manipulation on plain old raster image formats.
> Attempting to shoehorn such a program into GIS analysis is just asking
> for problems.
> 
> 
I'll look into it, but at a glance it looks like it's far more elaborate 
and feature-packed than I really need for my purposes. I've been using 
The GIMP for this since 2006, so I pretty much know how to make it work 
for me.

Assuming, of course, that GIMP 3.0 hasn't been changed so radically that 
the UI is completely new. Even so, I don't expect my distro's stable 
release to move away from 2.10 for a little while yet, so I should be 
good for this year's cropping plans.

TJ

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#688799

TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote at 17:32 this Monday (GMT):
> On 2025-03-24 12:45, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare
>>> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified
>>> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields
>>> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
>>>
>> 
>> You would probably be better served with GIS (Geographic Information System)
>> software such as GRASS GIS for Linux:
>> 
>> https://grass.osgeo.org/download/linux/
>> 
>> GIMP is for basic image manipulation on plain old raster image formats.
>> Attempting to shoehorn such a program into GIS analysis is just asking
>> for problems.
>> 
>> 
> I'll look into it, but at a glance it looks like it's far more elaborate 
> and feature-packed than I really need for my purposes. I've been using 
> The GIMP for this since 2006, so I pretty much know how to make it work 
> for me.
>
> Assuming, of course, that GIMP 3.0 hasn't been changed so radically that 
> the UI is completely new. Even so, I don't expect my distro's stable 
> release to move away from 2.10 for a little while yet, so I should be 
> good for this year's cropping plans.
>
> TJ


If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
another year!

I still enjoy Debian, but the outdatded pages is a bit annoying
sometimes.
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#688817

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
>TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote at 17:32 this Monday (GMT):
>>
>> Assuming, of course, that GIMP 3.0 hasn't been changed so radically that 
>> the UI is completely new. Even so, I don't expect my distro's stable 
>> release to move away from 2.10 for a little while yet, so I should be 
>> good for this year's cropping plans.
>
>If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
>another year!
>
>I still enjoy Debian, but the outdatded pages is a bit annoying
>sometimes.


https://i.imgur.com/6EYxO3X.png


Just use the AppImage of 3.x.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#688819

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 22:14 this Wednesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>>TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote at 17:32 this Monday (GMT):
>>>
>>> Assuming, of course, that GIMP 3.0 hasn't been changed so radically that 
>>> the UI is completely new. Even so, I don't expect my distro's stable 
>>> release to move away from 2.10 for a little while yet, so I should be 
>>> good for this year's cropping plans.
>>
>>If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
>>another year!
>>
>>I still enjoy Debian, but the outdatded pages is a bit annoying
>>sometimes.
>
>
> https://i.imgur.com/6EYxO3X.png
>
>
> Just use the AppImage of 3.x.


Fair enough. I don't use GIMP often enough to go out of my way for 3.x,
tho
-- 
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#688821

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 22:14 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> wrote:
>>>TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote at 17:32 this Monday (GMT):
>>>>
>>>> Assuming, of course, that GIMP 3.0 hasn't been changed so radically that 
>>>> the UI is completely new. Even so, I don't expect my distro's stable 
>>>> release to move away from 2.10 for a little while yet, so I should be 
>>>> good for this year's cropping plans.
>>>
>>>If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
>>>another year!
>>>
>>>I still enjoy Debian, but the outdatded pages is a bit annoying
>>>sometimes.
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/6EYxO3X.png
>>
>> Just use the AppImage of 3.x.
>
>Fair enough. I don't use GIMP often enough to go out of my way for 3.x,
>tho


To be honest, I might not have thought to do that if not for this
thread, here.  I looked at the download page, and the AppImage was the
viable way to do it, so now I have it, but I could go back to the
distro version if I wished.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#688851

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
> another year!

I have it already. Arrived in my last monthly update (along with Inkscape 1.4).

(Debian Unstable, of course.)

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#688852

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> If it's Debian, then you won't have to worry about GIMP 3.0 for at least
> another year!

I have it already. Arrived in my last monthly update (along with Inkscape 1.4).

(Debian Unstable, of course.)

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#688074

On 3/24/25 12:45 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm a farmer, and I've been mistakenly using GIMP for years to prepare
>> planning maps that show what I want to plant where on my diversified
>> farm. They use a satellite photo as a base, with color-coded fields
>> drawn on it as overlaying layers, labeled with the size in acres.
>>
> 
> You would probably be better served with GIS (Geographic Information System)
> software such as GRASS GIS for Linux:
> 
> https://grass.osgeo.org/download/linux/


   Generally agree ... GIMP is good for what it's good for
   but the poster seems to need a GIS of some kind. GRASS
   or QGIS are probably his best, and cheapest, move.


> GIMP is for basic image manipulation on plain old raster image formats.
> Attempting to shoehorn such a program into GIS analysis is just asking
> for problems.
> 
> 

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#687956

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:17:11 -0400, TJ wrote:

>> 
>> A true image pro wouldn't even notice the UI but the hordes
>> of dilettantes certainly do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> I wasn't aware that one had to be a "true image pro" to use GIMP. Good 
> to know.
> 
> Guess that means I'll have to stop. I'm not now, nor have I ever been, a 
> "true image pro."
>

Based on your logical abilities it can be ascertained that you are not
a "pro" in anything.

The above statement merely indicates that an "image pro" would not
notice or be overly concerned about the GIMP UI.  It in no way even
suggests that one must a "pro" in order to use GIMP.

However, as with all capable software, the GIMP is better wielded
by image pros.  Witness the billions of junk spreadsheets that are
created by the hordes of untrained Calc/Excel users.  It is the same
with the GIMP.

Now get back into your harness and plow those fields.  Maybe one day
your master will be able to afford a tractor.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!



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#687965

On 2025-03-24 13:06, Farley Flud wrote:
> Now get back into your harness and plow those fields.  Maybe one day
> your master will be able to afford a tractor.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

How mature of you.

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