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  reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-31 18:23 +0000
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 15:13 -0400
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 15:14 -0400
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 06:00 +0000
        Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 08:48 -0400
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-01 17:29 +0000
            Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 14:40 -0400
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-01 22:49 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 20:19 -0400
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 01:09 +0000
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 01:06 +0000
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-31 15:59 -0500
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 14:24 -0700
        Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 17:30 -0400
        Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 08:44 -0400
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-01 01:23 +0000
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-01 02:19 +0000
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-01 04:38 +0000
        Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-02 12:57 +0000
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-02 13:27 +0000
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-03 07:42 +0000
            Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-03 05:31 -0400
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-03 12:04 +0000
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-03 16:44 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-03 14:06 -0400
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-04 01:34 +0000
                    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-03 21:39 -0400
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-04 08:51 -0400
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-03 20:38 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 13:41 -0700
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-03 23:18 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-04 01:30 +0000
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 19:20 +0000
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-04-10 11:44 +0300
                    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-11 00:22 +0000
                      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:39 -0700
                      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-11 08:26 -0400
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-04 19:05 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-04 15:19 -0500
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-05 16:35 +0000
                    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-05 17:50 +0000
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:09 -0400
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-04 21:47 +0000
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-05 16:37 +0000
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-04 18:38 -0400
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-05 00:54 +0000
                  Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-05 02:15 +0000
                    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 22:21 -0400
                      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:11 -0700
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-03 06:40 -0500
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 05:52 +0000
    Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-01 09:49 -0400
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-01 16:35 +0000
        Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-01 17:22 +0000
          Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 14:39 -0400
            Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 12:41 -0700
            Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-01 22:34 +0000
              Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 20:19 -0400
                Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-02 00:56 +0000
      Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-02 07:25 -0500

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#688671

Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 15:19:14 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
> 
> > On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >>On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:
> >>
> >>[snip]
> >>
> >>> The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend
> >>> below the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.
> >>> Microsoft did not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the
> >>> past (perhaps MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see
> >>> that happening on every user desktop here.
> >>
> >>I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them
> > 
> > If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate
> > some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There
> > are many ways to do that, some better than others.
>  
> I'm not talking about the feedback, but movement that happens when you're 
> trying to click.
> 
> >>or that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).
> > 
> > I can't think of an example of that, and I use Win 8 as my primary OS.
> > I'm not even sure how it would be possible to reliably clickck on
> > something that is off screen.
> 
> It's been awhile since I used Windows 8 (note hat I said 8.0 not 8.1), but 
> I do remember having to click off the screen for some things. IIRC, that 
> was changed in 8.1.

  Yes, AFAIR - even in 8.1 (my system came with 8.1) - there was a
'swipe' to the right edge and then click to get to some settings stuff
and a 'swipe' to the upper-left and then click to switch from the Fisher
Price GUI to Real Windows (TM). Very akward and counter-intuitive.
AFAIR, a side-effect of the touch screen UI.

  I switched from the Fisher Price GUI to Real Windows (TM) and
installed the Classic Start Menu and lived happily ever since. (Now on
Windows 11 (skipped 10).)

  N.B. Even Windows 11 has a bit of this silliness: I can move the
pointer off-screen to the right or to the bottom (below the Taskbar) and
click and it behaves as if the pointer is still on the Desktop/Taskbar,

  When trying to move the pointer off-screen to the top or left, the
pointer just hits the top/left of the screen.

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#688680

Char Jackson wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>> The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
>>> the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did
>>> not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
>>> MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
>>> on every user desktop here.
>>
>>I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them
>
> If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate
> some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There
> are many ways to do that, some better than others.

It's a good joke to have the button move away everytime you get near it
:-D

-- 
Not that I'm against sneaking some notions into people's heads upon
occasion.  (Or blasting them in outright.)
		-- Larry Wall in <199710211624.JAA17833@wall.org>

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#688643

On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:
> 
>> The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
>> the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.
> 
> I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or
> that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

Linux GUIs make this sort of thing configurable. I like the fact that I 
can make the taskbar disappear, and end up with a screen full only of my 
application window and nothing else.

Of course, this works better when you have multiple virtual desktops.

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#688670

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 21:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:
>> 
>>> The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend
>>> below the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.
>> 
>> I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or
>> that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).
> 
> Linux GUIs make this sort of thing configurable. I like the fact that I
> can make the taskbar disappear, and end up with a screen full only of my
> application window and nothing else.
> 
> Of course, this works better when you have multiple virtual desktops.

I see how that could work. On my desktop (I usually have Xubuntu), you can 
change desktops with the keyboard so you don't need anything to click.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It cannot be too often repeated, that truth scorns the assistance of
miracle." [Robert G. Ingersoll]

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#688646

On Fri, 4/4/2025 3:05 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
>> the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did
>> not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
>> MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
>> on every user desktop here.
> 
> I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or that 
> make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).
> 
> [snip]
> 

Windows 8.0 may have had gestures.

One of them may have been swiping down
the right side of the screen.

They tried to introduce 10-point touch, but for desktops,
there were not a lot of monitor offerings with the hardware
support for that. the only gesture that comes to mind there,
is "grab and rotate", done with the fingertips.

Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App
lacked an "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You
could use Alt-F4, to escape from that. There is a video of
a test subject, who kinda freezes up and does the "deer in
the headlights" face, in response to there being no "X"
in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

   Paul

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#688652

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
> "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
> escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
> up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
> being no "X"
> in the corner  That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

I've had that deer in the headlights look a few times. The first time I 
got a window too close to a corner and it went full screen my reaction was 
'WTF? What did I do and how do I get rid of it?'

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#688654

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
> "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
> escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
> up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
> being no "X"
> in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

Windows 8 was an attempt to come up with a common UI for both regular 
“desktop” and “mobile” Windows (phones, tablets).

This turned out to be a really bad idea. And not just because the “mobile” 
UI had its own problems.

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#688655

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
>> Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
>> "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
>> escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
>> up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
>> being no "X"
>> in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .
>
>Windows 8 was an attempt to come up with a common UI for both regular 
>“desktop” and “mobile” Windows (phones, tablets).
>
>This turned out to be a really bad idea. And not just because the “mobile” 
>UI had its own problems.


I purchased the introductory Win8 Pro upgrade for $40, the UI was
ridiculous beyond imagination, but a quick Google search led me to
Classic Shell (now forked I believe) which restored sanity (the start
menu basically).  Once one did that, Win8 was a pretty great OS.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#688656

Joel wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
>>> "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
>>> escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
>>> up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
>>> being no "X"
>>> in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .
>>
>> Windows 8 was an attempt to come up with a common UI for both regular
>> “desktop” and “mobile” Windows (phones, tablets).
>>
>> This turned out to be a really bad idea. And not just because the “mobile”
>> UI had its own problems.
> 
> 
> I purchased the introductory Win8 Pro upgrade for $40, the UI was
> ridiculous beyond imagination, but a quick Google search led me to
> Classic Shell (now forked I believe) which restored sanity (the start
> menu basically).  Once one did that, Win8 was a pretty great OS.
> 
see , you were wrong

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#688607

Tyrone wrote:

>Isn't it time to grow up?

Where's the fun in that?   8)

-- 
"So you have nothing better to do with your life but to download every
distro that comes out."  -  trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel"

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#688541

On 2025-03-31, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-
> reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding
>
> He's gotta be kidding...

From the article (pinch me, I'm dreaming)...

   Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things that I 
   just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've tried 
   Linux, I've even dabbled in the world of Android and Chromebooks during 
   my time, and yet, none of it compares to Windows; it just doesn't.

But, this "incomparable" OS has a "few" issues...

   The need for an occasional refresh

   Well, the thing is, although Windows gives you a lot of freedom and has 
   broad compatibility with more programs than any other operating system 
   out there, it does make it somewhat susceptible to bugs. Lots of them.

   These can be inflicted by Microsoft directly through Windows Updates or 
   drivers accidentally corrupting files or programs, or well, any number 
   and manner of avenues.

   The worst culprit, of course, is the classic "upgrade from the previous 
   Windows version to this version." Just don't; it's never worth it.

   See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and 
   inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in the 
   background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap like that, 
   and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain towards macOS, I 
   can't deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a lot of these pitfalls.

   Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with troubleshooting, 
   my first and often instant reaction is to suggest just flattening the 
   machine entirely and reinstalling a fresh version of Windows on top.

   That's why I advocate tying a full-fat Windows license to your Microsoft 
   account so you can easily reinstall and activate Windows 11 on your 
   machine on a dime.

Oh where, oh where can I sign up for this wondrous OS?! I really, really 
want corrupted Registry Files again!

One comment stood out...

   Someone's April Fool's article got released a bit early 
   
This may or may be a joke, but my nephews and their friends used to 
reinstall Windows 7 about every two months some ten, or so, years ago. I 
guess they were ahead of the trend. 

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#688549

rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding
>
> He's gotta be kidding...

    Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things that I
    just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've tried Linux,
    I've even dabbled in the world of Android and Chromebooks during my time,
    and yet, none of it compares to Windows; it just doesn't.

    (but)  . . .

    See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
    inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in the
    background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap like that,
    and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain towards macOS, I can't
    deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a lot of these pitfalls.

    Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with troubleshooting, my
    first and often instant reaction is to suggest just flattening the machine
    entirely and reinstalling a fresh version of Windows on top.

LMAO

-- 
A single flow'r he sent me, since we met.
All tenderly his messenger he chose;
Deep-hearted, pure, with scented dew still wet--
One perfect rose.  -- Dorothy Parker, "One Perfect Rose"

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#688553

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 09:49:09 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote in <vsgqsl$33n2q$10@dont-email.me>:

> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
> 
>> https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-
reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding
>>
>> He's gotta be kidding...
> 
>     Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things
>     that I just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've
>     tried Linux, I've even dabbled in the world of Android and
>     Chromebooks during my time, and yet, none of it compares to Windows;
>     it just doesn't.
> 
>     (but)  . . .
> 
>     See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
>     inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in
>     the background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap
>     like that, and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain
>     towards macOS, I can't deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a
>     lot of these pitfalls.
> 
>     Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with
>     troubleshooting, my first and often instant reaction is to suggest
>     just flattening the machine entirely and reinstalling a fresh
>     version of Windows on top.
> 
> LMAO

It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate
drive (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
with impunity.

Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate partition...

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "Only those who do nothing make no mistakes."

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#688554

On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

> It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
> (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
> with impunity.
> 
> Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
> partition...

IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with a 
C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they tended to 
skimp on C:\.  Many Windows applications insist on putting some or all of 
their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line. Coupled with the 
builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg it was a lot of fun.

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#688558

On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
>> (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
>> with impunity.
>>
>> Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
>> partition...
> 
> IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with a
> C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they tended to
> skimp on C:\.  Many Windows applications insist on putting some or all of
> their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line. Coupled with the
> builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg it was a lot of fun.
> 

I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly 
guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688563

CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
>> On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
>>> (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
>>> with impunity.
>>>
>>> Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
>>> partition...
>>
>> IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with a
>> C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they tended to
>> skimp on C:\.  Many Windows applications insist on putting some or all of
>> their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line. Coupled with the
>> builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg it was a lot of 
>> fun.
>>
> 
> I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly 
> guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.
> 
so go ahead , wonder

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#688566

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:39:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
>> On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
>>> (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
>>> with impunity.
>>>
>>> Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
>>> partition...
>> 
>> IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with
>> a C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they
>> tended to skimp on C:\.  Many Windows applications insist on putting
>> some or all of their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line.
>> Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg
>> it was a lot of fun.
>> 
>> 
> I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly
> guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.

If you start with a C:\ that's barely large enough to contain the OS and 
then install third party software you will run out of space on C:\.

I can't remember the chain of events that triggered it, possibly a failed 
update, but even with a large C:\ I saw it was filling up rapidly and not 
from anything I was installing. It turned out that the culprit was the OS 
repeatedly logging that it was running out of room. 

It's fun going on an expedition to find stuff you can delete to make more 
room. 

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#688569

On 2025-04-01 6:34 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:39:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
>>> On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
>>>> (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
>>>> with impunity.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
>>>> partition...
>>>
>>> IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with
>>> a C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they
>>> tended to skimp on C:\.  Many Windows applications insist on putting
>>> some or all of their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line.
>>> Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg
>>> it was a lot of fun.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly
>> guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.
> 
> If you start with a C:\ that's barely large enough to contain the OS and
> then install third party software you will run out of space on C:\.
> 
> I can't remember the chain of events that triggered it, possibly a failed
> update, but even with a large C:\ I saw it was filling up rapidly and not
> from anything I was installing. It turned out that the culprit was the OS
> repeatedly logging that it was running out of room.
> 
> It's fun going on an expedition to find stuff you can delete to make more
> room.

Ah, I remember a girlfriend of mine back in 2005 having that problem 
with her 10GB drive. Because she was running out of space, the system 
kept crashing. I ended up buying her an 80GB to fix that for her.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688571

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 20:19:02 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Ah, I remember a girlfriend of mine back in 2005 having that problem
> with her 10GB drive. Because she was running out of space, the system
> kept crashing. I ended up buying her an 80GB to fix that for her.

Those were the days... It was the holidays so there weren't too many 
people around when I had to load a client's 3GB DB2 database to 
troubleshoot it. Finding a RS6000/AIX machine with that much free space 
took a while.

Another programmer with a similar problem deleted a directory to make 
space. It wasn't called /usr/bin but it was the AIX equivalent. 

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#688583

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>    Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things that I
>    just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've tried Linux,
>    I've even dabbled in the world of Android and Chromebooks during my time,
>    and yet, none of it compares to Windows; it just doesn't.
>
>    (but)  . . .
>
>    See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
>    inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in the
>    background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap like that,
>    and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain towards macOS, I can't
>    deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a lot of these pitfalls.
>
>    Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with troubleshooting, my
>    first and often instant reaction is to suggest just flattening the machine
>    entirely and reinstalling a fresh version of Windows on top.
>
> LMAO

It's one of those abusive relationships.  An intervention is needed.

-- 
"But (cola advocates) *crucify* notable OSS developers/managers for
not living up to their lofty OSS ideals."  -  trolling fsckwit
"Ezekiel", lying shamelessly

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