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  Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 20:16 -0400
    Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-26 21:44 -0400
      Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 21:56 -0400
        Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-27 00:48 -0400
          Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:36 -0400
            Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-27 11:50 -0400
              Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 12:17 -0400
              Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:50 +0000
      Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:36 +0000
        Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-27 00:26 -0400
        Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 16:14 +0000
      Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-03-27 11:01 -0600
        Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 18:24 +0000
      Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 11:32 -0700
        Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 19:23 +0000

#688210 — Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded?

It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. 
Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around on the 
next boot to treat the program as malware.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688214

On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

> It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.>
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control

   "Smart App Control

    Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging
    threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control
    also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may
    cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra
    software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect.

    Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such
    as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection.
   "

Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif

Sometimes, the pattern in there, indicates problems you did not know existed.
That's why I am recommending a look in there, because your symptoms
suggests the machine has some kind of health problem. Logged in there, is
activity you would not normally know is happening.

I've seen some pretty weird shit in this OS -- in one case weird enough
I wrote up a Feedback Hub entry for it. Most of these correlate with being
in the middle of a Windows Update (and some services have been shut off).
A reboot cures a few of the problems, but not all of them.

There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
this particular one came from a further back point in time.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432

   Paul

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#688215

On 2025-03-26 9:44 p.m., Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control
> 
>     "Smart App Control
> 
>      Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging
>      threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control
>      also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may
>      cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra
>      software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect.
> 
>      Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such
>      as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection.
>     "
> 
> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
> 
>     [Picture]
> 
>      https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
> 
> Sometimes, the pattern in there, indicates problems you did not know existed.
> That's why I am recommending a look in there, because your symptoms
> suggests the machine has some kind of health problem. Logged in there, is
> activity you would not normally know is happening.
> 
> I've seen some pretty weird shit in this OS -- in one case weird enough
> I wrote up a Feedback Hub entry for it. Most of these correlate with being
> in the middle of a Windows Update (and some services have been shut off).
> A reboot cures a few of the problems, but not all of them.
> 
> There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
> Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
> those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
> out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
> your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
> not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
> this particular one came from a further back point in time.
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432

One day, it believes that ASUS's ArmouryCrate is malware and blocks 
parts of it. Restart, and it suddenly thinks it's okay. Today, it 
decided that Samsung Magician is malware. Restart, and it's suddenly 
a-ok. Enabling this function is pure masochism. They warned me that I'd 
have to reinstall to re-enable, but I don't think anyone who used it 
would bother to do that considering how it behaves.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688223

On Wed, 3/26/2025 9:56 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-03-26 9:44 p.m., Paul wrote:
>> On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.>
>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control
>>
>>     "Smart App Control
>>
>>      Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging
>>      threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control
>>      also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may
>>      cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra
>>      software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect.
>>
>>      Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such
>>      as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection.
>>     "
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
>>
>>     [Picture]
>>
>>      https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
>>
>> Sometimes, the pattern in there, indicates problems you did not know existed.
>> That's why I am recommending a look in there, because your symptoms
>> suggests the machine has some kind of health problem. Logged in there, is
>> activity you would not normally know is happening.
>>
>> I've seen some pretty weird shit in this OS -- in one case weird enough
>> I wrote up a Feedback Hub entry for it. Most of these correlate with being
>> in the middle of a Windows Update (and some services have been shut off).
>> A reboot cures a few of the problems, but not all of them.
>>
>> There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
>> Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
>> those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
>> out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
>> your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
>> not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
>> this particular one came from a further back point in time.
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432
> 
> One day, it believes that ASUS's ArmouryCrate is malware and blocks parts of it. 
> Restart, and it suddenly thinks it's okay. Today, it decided that Samsung Magician
> is malware. Restart, and it's suddenly a-ok. Enabling this function is pure masochism.
> They warned me that I'd have to reinstall to re-enable, but I don't think anyone who
> used it would bother to do that considering how it behaves.

ArmouryCrate has a BIOS-level injector. I've seen an "offer" of it as
a Notification on the screen, but only on the machine with the Asus
motherboard.

Both of your Apps, have a potential driver component that is setting
off the "foreign driver" detection. What you should be seeing, if
that was the case, is a Notification, but the wording is different.
For example, I was told to remove an AISuite DLL from System32, and
I didn't even know the uninstaller had failed to remove it, some time
ago. And I believe that is a driver that has an exploit to it, during
installation. After a little poking around, I found a text string
to use as a research path.

OK, I used this as a Google search:

   Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist

And get this as a breadcrumb.

   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/device-security-in-the-windows-security-app-afa11526-de57-b1c5-599f-3a4c6a61c5e2

      "Windows 11 includes a blocklist of drivers that have known security vulnerabilities,
       have been signed with certificates used to sign malware, or that circumvent the
       Windows Security Model.

       If you have memory integrity, Smart App Control,   <===
       or Windows S mode on,
       the vulnerable driver blocklist will be on too.
      "

Now, does that mean "ON" as in "armed as a malware detection"
or "ON" as in "will see a friendly notification in the lower right corner" ?

Dunno. But that's my suspicion right now. It is related somehow.

   Paul

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#688231

On 2025-03-27 00:48, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 3/26/2025 9:56 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2025-03-26 9:44 p.m., Paul wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.>
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control
>>>
>>>      "Smart App Control
>>>
>>>       Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging
>>>       threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control
>>>       also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may
>>>       cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra
>>>       software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect.
>>>
>>>       Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such
>>>       as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection.
>>>      "
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
>>>
>>>      [Picture]
>>>
>>>       https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
>>>
>>> Sometimes, the pattern in there, indicates problems you did not know existed.
>>> That's why I am recommending a look in there, because your symptoms
>>> suggests the machine has some kind of health problem. Logged in there, is
>>> activity you would not normally know is happening.
>>>
>>> I've seen some pretty weird shit in this OS -- in one case weird enough
>>> I wrote up a Feedback Hub entry for it. Most of these correlate with being
>>> in the middle of a Windows Update (and some services have been shut off).
>>> A reboot cures a few of the problems, but not all of them.
>>>
>>> There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
>>> Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
>>> those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
>>> out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
>>> your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
>>> not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
>>> this particular one came from a further back point in time.
>>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432
>>
>> One day, it believes that ASUS's ArmouryCrate is malware and blocks parts of it.
>> Restart, and it suddenly thinks it's okay. Today, it decided that Samsung Magician
>> is malware. Restart, and it's suddenly a-ok. Enabling this function is pure masochism.
>> They warned me that I'd have to reinstall to re-enable, but I don't think anyone who
>> used it would bother to do that considering how it behaves.
> 
> ArmouryCrate has a BIOS-level injector. I've seen an "offer" of it as
> a Notification on the screen, but only on the machine with the Asus
> motherboard.

On an ASUS laptop, it's not a requirement but it will automatically 
switch the GPU for you depending on your conditions. If you don't use 
it, you need to at least install G-Helper lest you want to drain your 
battery faster than you need to.

> Both of your Apps, have a potential driver component that is setting
> off the "foreign driver" detection. What you should be seeing, if
> that was the case, is a Notification, but the wording is different.
> For example, I was told to remove an AISuite DLL from System32, and
> I didn't even know the uninstaller had failed to remove it, some time
> ago. And I believe that is a driver that has an exploit to it, during
> installation. After a little poking around, I found a text string
> to use as a research path.
> 
> OK, I used this as a Google search:
> 
>     Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist
> 
> And get this as a breadcrumb.
> 
>     https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/device-security-in-the-windows-security-app-afa11526-de57-b1c5-599f-3a4c6a61c5e2
> 
>        "Windows 11 includes a blocklist of drivers that have known security vulnerabilities,
>         have been signed with certificates used to sign malware, or that circumvent the
>         Windows Security Model.
> 
>         If you have memory integrity, Smart App Control,   <===
>         or Windows S mode on,
>         the vulnerable driver blocklist will be on too.
>        "
> 
> Now, does that mean "ON" as in "armed as a malware detection"
> or "ON" as in "will see a friendly notification in the lower right corner" ?
> 
> Dunno. But that's my suspicion right now. It is related somehow.

At the very least, Microsoft should have understood that both 
ArmouryCrate (used by most ASUS hardware) and Samsung Magician (used by 
most Samsung SSDs) are legitimate pieces of software and whitelisted 
them. The fact that even in those cases it feels the need to "detect" 
whether they are good or bad is troubling. For now, I feel better 
disabling the setting.


-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688237

On Thu, 3/27/2025 8:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

> 
> At the very least, Microsoft should have understood that both ArmouryCrate 
> (used by most ASUS hardware) and Samsung Magician (used by most Samsung SSDs) 
> are legitimate pieces of software and whitelisted them. The fact that even in
> those cases it feels the need to "detect" whether they are good or bad is troubling.
> For now, I feel better disabling the setting.

Microsoft wants to remove *all* third party drivers. That's
the long term intent. The "Vulnerable Driver Blocklist" is an
interim solution, until they are in control of all the drivers.

They want to own all of Ring 0.
And you can have a portion of Ring 3 :-)

   Paul

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#688242

On 2025-03-27 11:50, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 3/27/2025 8:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>>
>> At the very least, Microsoft should have understood that both ArmouryCrate
>> (used by most ASUS hardware) and Samsung Magician (used by most Samsung SSDs)
>> are legitimate pieces of software and whitelisted them. The fact that even in
>> those cases it feels the need to "detect" whether they are good or bad is troubling.
>> For now, I feel better disabling the setting.
> 
> Microsoft wants to remove *all* third party drivers. That's
> the long term intent. The "Vulnerable Driver Blocklist" is an
> interim solution, until they are in control of all the drivers.
> 
> They want to own all of Ring 0.
> And you can have a portion of Ring 3 :-)

I don't mind drivers being certified by Microsoft if that's what they're 
looking for. If, however, they want to write the drivers for all 
hardware, they will probably be playing catch-up forever. If, however, 
it results in hardware automatically being detected like it is in Linux, 
I'm for it.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688808

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote at 15:50 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 3/27/2025 8:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> 
>> At the very least, Microsoft should have understood that both ArmouryCrate 
>> (used by most ASUS hardware) and Samsung Magician (used by most Samsung SSDs) 
>> are legitimate pieces of software and whitelisted them. The fact that even in
>> those cases it feels the need to "detect" whether they are good or bad is troubling.
>> For now, I feel better disabling the setting.
>
> Microsoft wants to remove *all* third party drivers. That's
> the long term intent. The "Vulnerable Driver Blocklist" is an
> interim solution, until they are in control of all the drivers.
>
> They want to own all of Ring 0.
> And you can have a portion of Ring 3 :-)
>
>    Paul


While that would probably be bad, it woud at least prevent some god
awful anticheats and drm "solutions" from working. Maybe.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#688217

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:44:10 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in
<vs2ahb$32fhn$1@dont-email.me>:

> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
> 
>    [Picture]
> 
>     https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif

Ugh.  Why do you have to tolerate such jaggy fonts?

https://imgur.com/4PKSki0

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "It's deja vu all over again."

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#688220

On Wed, 3/26/2025 10:36 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:44:10 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in
> <vs2ahb$32fhn$1@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
>>
>>    [Picture]
>>
>>     https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
> 
> Ugh.  Why do you have to tolerate such jaggy fonts?
> 
> https://imgur.com/4PKSki0
> 

I think I'm supposed to buy a bigger screen, then use the 200% setting :-)

   Paul

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#688241

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:44:10 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in
> <vs2ahb$32fhn$1@dont-email.me>:
> 
> > Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
> > 
> >    [Picture]
> > 
> >     https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
> 
> Ugh.  Why do you have to tolerate such jaggy fonts?

  "jaggy fonts"? They look fine to me.

  What resolution and size display do you have?

> https://imgur.com/4PKSki0

  OTOH, in your screenshot, the 'r's in the body of your post look quite
silly [1], while those in the headers look fine. 'jaggy fonts', anyone!?
:-)

[1] As far as I can see, it's the only character which looks it's about
to fall over backwards.

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#688244

On 3/26/2025 7:44 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control
> 
>     "Smart App Control
> 
>      Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging
>      threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control
>      also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may
>      cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra
>      software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect.
> 
>      Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such
>      as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection.
>     "
> 
> Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
> 
>     [Picture]
> 
>      https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
         <SNIP>

What is "reliability-panel" and how is it accessed? I'm using Windows 
11. The site, i.posting.cc, seems flooded or down so no clues from there.
-- 
Jeff Barnett

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#688246

Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> wrote:
> On 3/26/2025 7:44 PM, Paul wrote:
[...]
> > Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ?
> > 
> >     [Picture]
> > 
> >      https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif
>          <SNIP>
> 
> What is "reliability-panel" and how is it accessed? I'm using Windows 
> 11. The site, i.posting.cc, seems flooded or down so no clues from there.

  Control Panel -> System and Security -> Security and Maintenance ->
Reliability Monitor

  Can also be found by typing 'relia' in the search box of the Control
Panel.

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#688247

Paul wrote on 3/26/2025 6:44 PM:
> There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
> Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
> those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
> out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
> your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
> not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
> this particular one came from a further back point in time.
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432
> 
>     Paul
> 
On this Win11 24H2 device only two 'failed app updates are periodically 
present(and only since 24H2 was upgraded from 23H2) in Reliability monitor
  One for Windows CrossDevice and HP Printer
The former afaics due to BT/Mobile/Allow this PC to access mobile devices 
is disabled(the default)
  - i.e. the push from the store fails because the service is not present
The other(latter) for the HP printer because the MSFT Store HP Smart App 
is installed but the exe is not running, not scheduled for updating, and 
newer app version not available(same version for months)

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#688248

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul wrote on 3/26/2025 6:44 PM:
> > There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the
> > Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on
> > those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints
> > out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling
> > your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's
> > not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think
> > this particular one came from a further back point in time.
> > 
> > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432
> > 
> >     Paul
> > 
> On this Win11 24H2 device only two 'failed app updates are periodically 
> present(and only since 24H2 was upgraded from 23H2) in Reliability monitor
>   One for Windows CrossDevice and HP Printer
> The former afaics due to BT/Mobile/Allow this PC to access mobile devices 
> is disabled(the default)
>   - i.e. the push from the store fails because the service is not present
> The other(latter) for the HP printer because the MSFT Store HP Smart App 
> is installed but the exe is not running, not scheduled for updating, and 
> newer app version not available(same version for months)

  On my Windows 11 24H2 system, today there were no less than 13 'Failed
Windows Update' errors for all kinds of Apps.

  OTOH, from 16/03 through 22/03, there was a week without such failures
(and with many 'Successful Windows Update' messages for Apps).

  I use very few Apps, but the few which I do use (Calculator, Notepad,
Photos, Settings :-), Snipping Tool, WhatsApp [1]), seem to work fine.

[1] Yes, some of these also have <name>.exe files, but AFAIK, these are
just preambles which in turn run the (UWP/Modern/<whatever>) app, not a
normal x86/x64 .exe file.

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