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Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs

Started byCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
First post2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
Last post2025-01-16 11:35 -0500
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  Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-10 12:43 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 13:59 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:30 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:39 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:39 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-21 06:05 -0600
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-21 08:49 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:14 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:35 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:31 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:20 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:45 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 22:43 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:54 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:27 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 04:32 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:38 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:28 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:38 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:36 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:40 +0000
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 10:05 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:11 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:28 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:40 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:55 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:44 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:39 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600
                    Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000
                      Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600
                        Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500
                        Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000
                        Re: Cult of Unix ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700
                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000
                              Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600
                                Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500
                                  Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000
                                    Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:51 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:10 -0500
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:55 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:53 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:54 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0000
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:56 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
                                              Re: Cult of Unix Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
                      Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
                        Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
                          Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 05:05 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 08:53 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 10:43 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 11:07 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:19 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:17 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:40 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:41 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:18 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:15 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 13:07 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-18 16:08 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 23:30 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:04 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 18:50 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:08 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-18 22:14 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 11:38 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 12:23 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0500
                                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 15:54 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
                                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 20:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 21:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 07:22 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:03 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:53 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 23:08 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 06:40 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:36 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:56 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-19 08:53 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:09 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:51 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:58 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:20 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:20 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:36 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:47 +0100
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-14 05:48 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:48 -0600
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:54 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:46 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:02 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 12:33 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:40 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:27 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-27 22:49 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 14:32 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 15:52 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:34 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 00:41 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:42 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 14:40 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:34 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:56 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 22:40 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:04 -0600
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-17 07:34 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs roger <rduffy@hotmail.com.invalid - 2025-01-17 14:01 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:15 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 15:57 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:50 -0600
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 21:52 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-16 21:38 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-16 18:33 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:44 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:51 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:11 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-17 13:03 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:00 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 23:15 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-30 13:35 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-30 17:32 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-01 00:20 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 06:58 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 07:18 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:31 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:39 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:00 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 15:59 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:41 -0500
                            Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000
                              Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500
                                Re: Gaming Laptops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600
                                  Re: Gaming Laptops candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 20:10 +0000
                                    Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:24 -0500
                                      Re: Gaming Laptops pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-04 00:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:05 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500

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#683622 — Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
SubjectMicrosoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs
Message-ID<1VcgP.54962$XfF8.39289@fx04.iad>
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>

Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
systems starting with next month's security update.

The announcement was made in a new message added to the company's 
Microsoft 365 Admin Center, tagged MC976059, and it applies to Microsoft 
365 apps users.

As Redmond explains, the new Outlook app will be installed on Windows 10 
devices for users who deploy the optional January 28 update and force 
installed for all who install the February 11 security update.

The new Outlook client will run alongside the classic Outlook app and 
will not modify configurations or user defaults. Microsoft added that 
there's no way to block it from being installed on Windows 10 devices; 
however, those who don't want it can remove it afterward.

"New Outlook exists as an installed app on the device. For instance, it 
can be found in the Apps section of the Start Menu. It does not replace 
existing (classic) Outlook or change any configurations / user defaults. 
Both (classic) Outlook and New Outlook for Windows can run side by 
side," Microsoft says.

"Currently, there isn't a way to block the new Outlook from being 
installed - if you prefer not to have new Outlook show up on your 
organization's devices, you can remove it after it's installed as part 
of the update," the company added in a support document updated on Thursday.

New Outlook user interface
New Outlook user interface (Microsoft)
To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your 
Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet 
with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows.

This can be done by running the following command from a Windows 
PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value:

PowerShell: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -AllUsers -Online -PackageName 
(Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.OutlookForWindows).PackageFullName

REG VALUE: 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\Orchestrator\UScheduler_Oobe\OutlookUpdate
Next, add a REG_SZ registry setting named BlockedOobeUpdaters with a 
value of ["MS_Outlook"]. After removing the Outlook package, Windows 
Updates will not reinstall the new Outlook client.

The first preview version of the new Outlook for Windows was introduced 
in May 2022. The app was generally available for personal accounts in 
September 2023 (via the September 26 Windows fall update and the 
Microsoft Store on Windows 11) and for commercial customers in August 2024.


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#683625

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-10 12:43 -0500
Message-ID<vlrm7h$5ni9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683622
On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
> 
> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
> systems starting with next month's security update.

Another nothing burger.

Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro 
forces on you.

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#683635

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-10 13:59 -0500
Message-ID<76egP.617220$DYF8.550328@fx14.iad>
In reply to#683625
On 2025-01-10 12:43, DFS wrote:
> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force- 
>> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>
>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 
>> 10 systems starting with next month's security update.
> 
> Another nothing burger.
> 
> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro 
> forces on you.

Once again, you miss the point: your operating system does not care what 
you want or don't want because your computer doesn't belong to you.

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Gab: @CrudeSausage
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#683698

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
Message-ID<vltdnc$hnde$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683635
On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-10 12:43, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force- 
>>> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>>
>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 
>>> 10 systems starting with next month's security update.
>> 
>> Another nothing burger.
>> 
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro 
>> forces on you.
>
> Once again, you miss the point: your operating system does not care what 
> you want or don't want because your computer doesn't belong to you.

What "apps" does Linux "force" on you, DuFuS? I guess you've never heard of 
minimal Linux installations? 

(Sorry to hijack your post, Crude.)

-- 
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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#683727

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-11 07:30 -0500
Message-ID<uvtgP.479488$DPl.278796@fx13.iad>
In reply to#683698
On 2025-01-11 04:30, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-10 12:43, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-
>>>> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows
>>>> 10 systems starting with next month's security update.
>>>
>>> Another nothing burger.
>>>
>>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>>> forces on you.
>>
>> Once again, you miss the point: your operating system does not care what
>> you want or don't want because your computer doesn't belong to you.
> 
> What "apps" does Linux "force" on you, DuFuS? I guess you've never heard of
> minimal Linux installations?
> 
> (Sorry to hijack your post, Crude.)

Yeah, I don't think that he's experienced minimal installations that 
every distribution including Ubuntu allows nowadays. A default install 
obviously puts what it believes will be necessary apps for the user. 
However, nowadays they are aware that you might prefer Dragon Player 
over VLC or Brave over Firefox so they offer you a blank slate to work 
with.

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Gab: @CrudeSausage
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#684391

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-20 16:39 -0500
Message-ID<vmmfpq$3et6v$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683635
On 1/10/2025 1:59 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-01-10 12:43, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force- 
>>> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>>
>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 
>>> 10 systems starting with next month's security update.
>>
>> Another nothing burger.
>>
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro 
>> forces on you.
> 
> Once again, you miss the point: your operating system does not care what 
> you want or don't want because your computer doesn't belong to you.


You're drinking way too much GuhNoo kook-aid lately.

Linux distros don't care what you want or don't want - they put whatever 
THEY want on it, and you're usually forced to install it.  Maybe some 
pieces can be uninstalled, and maybe not.

The claim that most distros offer 'minimal installations' is totally untrue.

Distrowatch recent ranking
Distro            minimal desktop install avail
--------------    -----------------------------
1 Mint              no
2 MX Linux          yes (Fluxbox only)
3 EndeavourOS       yes
4 Debian            yes
5 CachyOS           no
6 Manjaro           no
7 Pop!_OS           no
8 Ubuntu            no
9 Fedora            yes (CoreOS)
10 openSUSE         yes (network image)
11 Zorin            no
12 Nobara           no
13 elementary       no
14 KDE neon         no
15 antiX            yes

And your FOSS computer operating system doesn't belong to you in any 
way, shape or form.  It's permissively licensed, but it's not yours.

Many MS-hater kooks blather on about 'software freedom' and 'you have 
the source - fix it yourself'.  Having the source code is nice, but the 
extreme difficulty of modifying and re/deploying 3rd party code means 
you're effectively locked into whatever they give you.

Now what point did I miss?

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#684399

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-20 20:39 -0500
Message-ID<iVCjP.72721$oCrf.15913@fx33.iad>
In reply to#684391
On 1/20/25 4:39 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/10/2025 1:59 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2025-01-10 12:43, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force- 
>>>> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 
>>>> 10 systems starting with next month's security update.
>>>
>>> Another nothing burger.
>>>
>>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux 
>>> distro forces on you.
>>
>> Once again, you miss the point: your operating system does not care 
>> what you want or don't want because your computer doesn't belong to you.
> 
> 
> You're drinking way too much GuhNoo kook-aid lately.
> 
> Linux distros don't care what you want or don't want - they put whatever 
> THEY want on it, and you're usually forced to install it.  Maybe some 
> pieces can be uninstalled, and maybe not.
> 
> The claim that most distros offer 'minimal installations' is totally 
> untrue.
> 
> Distrowatch recent ranking
> Distro            minimal desktop install avail
> --------------    -----------------------------
> 1 Mint              no
> 2 MX Linux          yes (Fluxbox only)
> 3 EndeavourOS       yes
> 4 Debian            yes
> 5 CachyOS           no
> 6 Manjaro           no
> 7 Pop!_OS           no
> 8 Ubuntu            no
> 9 Fedora            yes (CoreOS)
> 10 openSUSE         yes (network image)
> 11 Zorin            no
> 12 Nobara           no
> 13 elementary       no
> 14 KDE neon         no
> 15 antiX            yes
> 
> And your FOSS computer operating system doesn't belong to you in any 
> way, shape or form.  It's permissively licensed, but it's not yours.
> 
> Many MS-hater kooks blather on about 'software freedom' and 'you have 
> the source - fix it yourself'.  Having the source code is nice, but the 
> extreme difficulty of modifying and re/deploying 3rd party code means 
> you're effectively locked into whatever they give you.
> 
> Now what point did I miss?

Install any of the distributions in that list and you can remove _every_ 
application it comes with. You can make it as minimal as you wish if it 
doesn't already allow you to install minimally.

A quick look at that list though says that Ubuntu doesn't allow a 
minimal install. It does, so your facts are wrong. You can check a 
review of the last few Ubuntu releases on YouTube for proof. As for the 
distributions there that I tried, like Pop!_OS and Nobara, a minimal 
install would defeat the purpose of even using the distribution. One is 
based on Ubuntu and has modifications to make it better for the 
computers it sells, power management, NVIDIA support and gaming in 
general. In the case of Nobara, it is Fedora with the patches necessary 
to make NVIDIA a better experience, same with gaming and a number of 
modifications for ASUS hardware. If you wanted a minimal install of 
either, just use Ubuntu and Fedora.

I'll say it again though: all of them allow you to remove and replace 
whatever you wish. With Windows, you can't even remove Edge without it 
coming back the moment you update.

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Telegram: @CrudeSausage
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#684406

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-01-21 06:05 -0600
Message-ID<t03vojtntdfrarhbf3l6t3phghqbaebsn5@4ax.com>
In reply to#684399
CrudeSausage wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> (idiocy and lies, snipped)

Out of the other side of this dumb fsck's filthy, lying gob, he'll
whine about "too many choices" in Linux distros.

>Install any of the distributions in that list and you can remove _every_ 
>application it comes with. You can make it as minimal as you wish if it 
>doesn't already allow you to install minimally.
>
>A quick look at that list though says that Ubuntu doesn't allow a 
>minimal install. It does, so your facts are wrong. You can check a 
>review of the last few Ubuntu releases on YouTube for proof. As for the 
>distributions there that I tried, like Pop!_OS and Nobara, a minimal 
>install would defeat the purpose of even using the distribution. One is 
>based on Ubuntu and has modifications to make it better for the 
>computers it sells, power management, NVIDIA support and gaming in 
>general. In the case of Nobara, it is Fedora with the patches necessary 
>to make NVIDIA a better experience, same with gaming and a number of 
>modifications for ASUS hardware. If you wanted a minimal install of 
>either, just use Ubuntu and Fedora.

Right.  Even if DumFSck wasn't lying about the user's freedom to
customize his installation, he's still ignoring the fact that with
GNU/Linux there is orders of magnitude more choice in pre-packaged
distributions, compared to WinDOS.

-- 
"In other words, you take what they give you and you better like it."
-  DumFSck, lying shamelessly

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#684408

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-21 08:49 -0500
Message-ID<VBNjP.729118$2xE6.727066@fx18.iad>
In reply to#684406
On 1/21/25 7:05 AM, chrisv wrote:
> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> (idiocy and lies, snipped)
> 
> Out of the other side of this dumb fsck's filthy, lying gob, he'll
> whine about "too many choices" in Linux distros.
> 
>> Install any of the distributions in that list and you can remove _every_
>> application it comes with. You can make it as minimal as you wish if it
>> doesn't already allow you to install minimally.
>>
>> A quick look at that list though says that Ubuntu doesn't allow a
>> minimal install. It does, so your facts are wrong. You can check a
>> review of the last few Ubuntu releases on YouTube for proof. As for the
>> distributions there that I tried, like Pop!_OS and Nobara, a minimal
>> install would defeat the purpose of even using the distribution. One is
>> based on Ubuntu and has modifications to make it better for the
>> computers it sells, power management, NVIDIA support and gaming in
>> general. In the case of Nobara, it is Fedora with the patches necessary
>> to make NVIDIA a better experience, same with gaming and a number of
>> modifications for ASUS hardware. If you wanted a minimal install of
>> either, just use Ubuntu and Fedora.
> 
> Right.  Even if DumFSck wasn't lying about the user's freedom to
> customize his installation, he's still ignoring the fact that with
> GNU/Linux there is orders of magnitude more choice in pre-packaged
> distributions, compared to WinDOS.

One of those choices is to replace whatever comes with your Linux 
distribution with tlp for improved power efficiency. If you're not a fan 
of Firefox, you can remove it and put on Chrome, Chromium or Brave 
without the initial browser bugging you. If Thunderbird is not your cup 
of tea, feel free to install Kmail, Evolution or Sylpheed without 
Thunderbird sending you ads telling you that you've committed the crime 
of thinking differently. Heck, you can change the audio system if you 
find that the default is lacking and even change the animations when you 
open, close or minimize windows if you feel that they're not your style. 
Even for your GPU, if you're a masochist, you can remove the proprietary 
driver and use the open one (I'm ignoring AMD here whose open driver is 
superior to the proprietary one). You can't do most of the above in 
Windows without buying a third-party application. I'm sure the 
application will do that and more, but you had to pay for the honour and 
the system's stability will likely be impacted anyway.

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#683644

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-10 20:14 +0000
Message-ID<luddc8Fbie3U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683625
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-
install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>> 
>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10
>> systems starting with next month's security update.
> 
> Another nothing burger.
> 
> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
> forces on you.

You can pick and choose during the installation. I'll admit I go for the 
default and get stuff like LibreOffice that I may never use on my personal 
machines but I'm lazy. 

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#683659

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-01-10 16:35 -0500
Message-ID<vls3rh$7sq3$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683644
rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-
> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>> 
>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10
>>> systems starting with next month's security update.
>> 
>> Another nothing burger.
>> 
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>> forces on you.
>
> You can pick and choose during the installation. I'll admit I go for the 
> default and get stuff like LibreOffice that I may never use on my personal 
> machines but I'm lazy. 

I like DFS using the word "deluge", when the disk space of this "deluge"
is far smaller than getting the same kinds of apps on Windows.

Big offenders: Microsoft Office and Visual Studio. Windows itself.

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<drow> eeeeeeek
<drow> joeyh: That is simply evil.  Period.

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#683699

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 09:31 +0000
Message-ID<vltdpo$hnde$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683644
On 2025-01-10, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-
> install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>> 
>>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10
>>> systems starting with next month's security update.
>> 
>> Another nothing burger.
>> 
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>> forces on you.
>
> You can pick and choose during the installation. I'll admit I go for the 
> default and get stuff like LibreOffice that I may never use on my personal 
> machines but I'm lazy. 

Same here. Except when I'm installing Linux on small SSDs (like 8 GBs on my 
Wyse Thin Clients).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#683716

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
Message-ID<678260ef$0$29746$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#683625
Le 10-01-2025, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 1/10/2025 12:37 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>> 
>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
>> systems starting with next month's security update.
>
> Another nothing burger.
>
> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro 
> forces on you.

They are not forced, they are installed by default. It's something
different. With Android, they are forced: you can't remove some apps.
With Linux, you can remove and change every default as you want. The
only difficulty will be to change the init process. Switching between
systemd and something else will be, at least, difficult. But everything
else can be changed. Now, you can choose either the distro who let you
install only what you need instead of choosing a distro who install
everything you don't want.

-- 
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#683879

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-12 23:20 +0000
Message-ID<vm1iog$1f1ma$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683625
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
> forces on you.

Have you noticed this happening on your Linux installs? Please tell us.

Or is this something else you read in The Guardian?

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#683909

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-13 12:45 +0000
Message-ID<vm31t2$1pbsb$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683879
On 2025-01-12, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>> forces on you.
>
> Have you noticed this happening on your Linux installs? Please tell us.
>
> Or is this something else you read in The Guardian?

Yeah (to DuFuS), I've never noticed them because they are NOT forced on me.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#683965

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
Message-ID<vm4mtl$290mt$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683879
On 1/12/2025 6:20 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
> 
>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>> forces on you.
> 
> Have you noticed this happening on your Linux installs? Please tell us.

Yes.  For years I've installed distros by booting a LiveCD/DVD, trying 
it for a little while, and if I liked it enough, installing from the 
live desktop (setting it up as a dual-boot).  It's been a long time 
since I recall being offered individual packages or roles to install - 
it usually just forced a lot of junk on you.


> Or is this something else you read in The Guardian?

You need to work on your trolling, fella.  'DFS reads the Guardian' is 
silly and ineffective.

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#684428

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-21 22:43 +0000
Message-ID<vmp7v0$endb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683965
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:50:16 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 1/12/2025 6:20 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:43:14 -0500, DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> Apparently you never noticed the deluge of apps a typical Linux distro
>>> forces on you.
>> 
>> Have you noticed this happening on your Linux installs? Please tell us.
> 
> Yes.  For years I've installed distros by booting a LiveCD/DVD, trying
> it for a little while, and if I liked it enough, installing from the
> live desktop (setting it up as a dual-boot).  It's been a long time
> since I recall being offered individual packages or roles to install -
> it usually just forced a lot of junk on you.

It really has been a long time, hasn’t it?

>> Or is this something else you read in The Guardian?
> 
> 'DFS reads the Guardian' is silly and ineffective.

But true. You admitted it yourself.

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#683629

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-10 12:54 -0500
Message-ID<8jn2oj18a4m2lvthh5he2n0f281i2cumjt@4ax.com>
In reply to#683622
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

><https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>
>Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
>systems starting with next month's security update.
>
>The announcement was made in a new message added to the company's 
>Microsoft 365 Admin Center, tagged MC976059, and it applies to Microsoft 
>365 apps users.
>
>As Redmond explains, the new Outlook app will be installed on Windows 10 
>devices for users who deploy the optional January 28 update and force 
>installed for all who install the February 11 security update.
>
>The new Outlook client will run alongside the classic Outlook app and 
>will not modify configurations or user defaults. Microsoft added that 
>there's no way to block it from being installed on Windows 10 devices; 
>however, those who don't want it can remove it afterward.
>
>"New Outlook exists as an installed app on the device. For instance, it 
>can be found in the Apps section of the Start Menu. It does not replace 
>existing (classic) Outlook or change any configurations / user defaults. 
>Both (classic) Outlook and New Outlook for Windows can run side by 
>side," Microsoft says.
>
>"Currently, there isn't a way to block the new Outlook from being 
>installed - if you prefer not to have new Outlook show up on your 
>organization's devices, you can remove it after it's installed as part 
>of the update," the company added in a support document updated on Thursday.
>
>New Outlook user interface
>New Outlook user interface (Microsoft)
>To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your 
>Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet 
>with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows.
>
>This can be done by running the following command from a Windows 
>PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value:
>
>PowerShell: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -AllUsers -Online -PackageName 
>(Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.OutlookForWindows).PackageFullName
>
>REG VALUE: 
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\Orchestrator\UScheduler_Oobe\OutlookUpdate
>Next, add a REG_SZ registry setting named BlockedOobeUpdaters with a 
>value of ["MS_Outlook"]. After removing the Outlook package, Windows 
>Updates will not reinstall the new Outlook client.
>
>The first preview version of the new Outlook for Windows was introduced 
>in May 2022. The app was generally available for personal accounts in 
>September 2023 (via the September 26 Windows fall update and the 
>Microsoft Store on Windows 11) and for commercial customers in August 2024.


It's a good app, I'm doing well with Thunderbird, since I'm not
running Windows, though.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#683697

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 09:27 +0000
Message-ID<vltdi6$hnde$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683622
On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
><https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>
> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
> systems starting with next month's security update.
>
> The announcement was made in a new message added to the company's 
> Microsoft 365 Admin Center, tagged MC976059, and it applies to Microsoft 
> 365 apps users.
>
> As Redmond explains, the new Outlook app will be installed on Windows 10 
> devices for users who deploy the optional January 28 update and force 
> installed for all who install the February 11 security update.
>
> The new Outlook client will run alongside the classic Outlook app and 
> will not modify configurations or user defaults. Microsoft added that 
> there's no way to block it from being installed on Windows 10 devices; 
> however, those who don't want it can remove it afterward.
>
> "New Outlook exists as an installed app on the device. For instance, it 
> can be found in the Apps section of the Start Menu. It does not replace 
> existing (classic) Outlook or change any configurations / user defaults. 
> Both (classic) Outlook and New Outlook for Windows can run side by 
> side," Microsoft says.
>
> "Currently, there isn't a way to block the new Outlook from being 
> installed - if you prefer not to have new Outlook show up on your 
> organization's devices, you can remove it after it's installed as part 
> of the update," the company added in a support document updated on Thursday.
>
> New Outlook user interface
> New Outlook user interface (Microsoft)
> To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your 
> Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet 
> with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows.
>
> This can be done by running the following command from a Windows 
> PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value:
>
> PowerShell: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -AllUsers -Online -PackageName 
> (Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.OutlookForWindows).PackageFullName
>
> REG VALUE: 
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\Orchestrator\UScheduler_Oobe\OutlookUpdate
> Next, add a REG_SZ registry setting named BlockedOobeUpdaters with a 
> value of ["MS_Outlook"]. After removing the Outlook package, Windows 
> Updates will not reinstall the new Outlook client.
>
> The first preview version of the new Outlook for Windows was introduced 
> in May 2022. The app was generally available for personal accounts in 
> September 2023 (via the September 26 Windows fall update and the 
> Microsoft Store on Windows 11) and for commercial customers in August 2024.

Even if I used Windows I wouldn't use Outlook.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#683700

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 04:32 -0500
Message-ID<5ie4ojdu445pm7gskvq0c2cbchjk3hfvvp@4ax.com>
In reply to#683697
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>><https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-new-outlook-on-windows-10-pcs-in-february/>
>>
>> Microsoft will force install the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 
>> systems starting with next month's security update.
>>
>> The announcement was made in a new message added to the company's 
>> Microsoft 365 Admin Center, tagged MC976059, and it applies to Microsoft 
>> 365 apps users.
>>
>> As Redmond explains, the new Outlook app will be installed on Windows 10 
>> devices for users who deploy the optional January 28 update and force 
>> installed for all who install the February 11 security update.
>>
>> The new Outlook client will run alongside the classic Outlook app and 
>> will not modify configurations or user defaults. Microsoft added that 
>> there's no way to block it from being installed on Windows 10 devices; 
>> however, those who don't want it can remove it afterward.
>>
>> "New Outlook exists as an installed app on the device. For instance, it 
>> can be found in the Apps section of the Start Menu. It does not replace 
>> existing (classic) Outlook or change any configurations / user defaults. 
>> Both (classic) Outlook and New Outlook for Windows can run side by 
>> side," Microsoft says.
>>
>> "Currently, there isn't a way to block the new Outlook from being 
>> installed - if you prefer not to have new Outlook show up on your 
>> organization's devices, you can remove it after it's installed as part 
>> of the update," the company added in a support document updated on Thursday.
>>
>> New Outlook user interface
>> New Outlook user interface (Microsoft)
>> To remove the new Outlook app package after it's force installed on your 
>> Windows device, you can use the Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage cmdlet 
>> with the PackageName parameter value Microsoft.OutlookForWindows.
>>
>> This can be done by running the following command from a Windows 
>> PowerShell prompt and adding a new reg value:
>>
>> PowerShell: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -AllUsers -Online -PackageName 
>> (Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.OutlookForWindows).PackageFullName
>>
>> REG VALUE: 
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\Orchestrator\UScheduler_Oobe\OutlookUpdate
>> Next, add a REG_SZ registry setting named BlockedOobeUpdaters with a 
>> value of ["MS_Outlook"]. After removing the Outlook package, Windows 
>> Updates will not reinstall the new Outlook client.
>>
>> The first preview version of the new Outlook for Windows was introduced 
>> in May 2022. The app was generally available for personal accounts in 
>> September 2023 (via the September 26 Windows fall update and the 
>> Microsoft Store on Windows 11) and for commercial customers in August 2024.
>
>Even if I used Windows I wouldn't use Outlook.


I would use it under Win11 in another life, where I wasn't supported
by the OSS community.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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