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Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs

Started byCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
First post2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
Last post2025-01-16 11:35 -0500
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  Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-10 12:43 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 13:59 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:30 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:39 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:39 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-21 06:05 -0600
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-21 08:49 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:14 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:35 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:31 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:20 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:45 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 22:43 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:54 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:27 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 04:32 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:38 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:28 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:38 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:36 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:40 +0000
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 10:05 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:11 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:28 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:40 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:55 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:44 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:39 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600
                    Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000
                      Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600
                        Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500
                        Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000
                        Re: Cult of Unix ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700
                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000
                              Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600
                                Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500
                                  Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000
                                    Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:51 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:10 -0500
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:55 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:53 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:54 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0000
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:56 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
                                              Re: Cult of Unix Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
                      Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
                        Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
                          Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 05:05 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 08:53 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 10:43 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 11:07 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:19 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:17 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:40 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:41 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:18 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:15 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 13:07 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-18 16:08 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 23:30 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:04 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 18:50 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:08 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-18 22:14 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 11:38 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 12:23 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0500
                                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 15:54 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
                                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 20:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 21:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 07:22 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:03 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:53 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 23:08 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 06:40 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:36 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:56 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-19 08:53 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:09 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:51 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:58 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:20 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:20 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:36 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:47 +0100
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-14 05:48 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:48 -0600
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:54 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:46 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:02 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 12:33 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:40 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:27 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-27 22:49 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 14:32 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 15:52 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:34 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 00:41 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:42 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 14:40 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:34 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:56 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 22:40 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:04 -0600
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-17 07:34 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs roger <rduffy@hotmail.com.invalid - 2025-01-17 14:01 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:15 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 15:57 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:50 -0600
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 21:52 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-16 21:38 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-16 18:33 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:44 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:51 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:11 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-17 13:03 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:00 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 23:15 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-30 13:35 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-30 17:32 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-01 00:20 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 06:58 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 07:18 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:31 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:39 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:00 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 15:59 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:41 -0500
                            Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000
                              Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500
                                Re: Gaming Laptops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600
                                  Re: Gaming Laptops candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 20:10 +0000
                                    Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:24 -0500
                                      Re: Gaming Laptops pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-04 00:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:05 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500

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#684316 — Re: Cult of Unix

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Cult of Unix
Message-ID<vmhihd$18s3c$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684258
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 20:54:44 -0500, Paul wrote:

> On Fri, 1/17/2025 6:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> The right tool turned out to be: “use Linux”.
>> 
> The right tool turned out to be: "use a computer"

The right answer turned out to be: “use a *real* computer”.

Here’s a nickel, kid. Go get yourself a real computer.

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#684317 — Re: Cult of Unix

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
SubjectRe: Cult of Unix
Message-ID<oljoojppttuqc2rdbn7k9spkiltdqbbr5b@4ax.com>
In reply to#684316
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 20:54:44 -0500, Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 1/17/2025 6:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> The right tool turned out to be: “use Linux”.
>>> 
>> The right tool turned out to be: "use a computer"
>
>The right answer turned out to be: “use a *real* computer”.
>
>Here’s a nickel, kid. Go get yourself a real computer.


All three platforms are real computers, in fairness.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#684172 — Re: Cult of Unix

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
SubjectRe: Cult of Unix
Message-ID<vmc74r$3nl2p$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684133
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:34:01 -0500, Paul wrote:

> On Thu, 1/16/2025 12:03 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:05:34 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> 
>>> I think people are better off to get some type of imaging software ...
>> 
>> On Linux systems, rsync works well. It’s essentially a bulk
>> file-copying utility. That’s all you need to backup/restore Linux
>> systems.
>> 
> With Macrium, I can back up FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT, and ... EXT4.

I’m sure you can, but you cannot switch filesystem types that way.

File-level copying tools (like rsync) don’t care about low-level details 
like volume formats, which makes it easy to switch between them.

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#684037 — Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️‍🌈

From🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
SubjectRe: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️‍🌈
Message-ID<=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DPmqKdu54gmAMf3$@92.78.154.93=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>
In reply to#684010
On 15 Jan 2025 00:30:05 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> 
determined that the following was of great importance to vallor
<vallor@cultnix.org> and subsequently decided to freely share it with
us in <luodsdF6geaU1@mid.individual.net>:
 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:52:05 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= wrote in <vm48v6$23a1f$2@dont-email.me>:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Joel wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth nothing. 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Linux is the only option worth pursuing.  macOS is weird and expensive, 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Windows is bloatware beyond belief.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS, 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= for it too, mind you.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= right for me.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= As we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= of time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= matter how pathetic the machine you're running it on is.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd be
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life. So
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view it
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= already began to with 23H2.  Linux is the only way to solve this
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= dilemma. 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Indeed, linux is the only way to salvation.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I'm glad you see the light, Brother Hank!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= https://cultnix.org/
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (_Cult of Unix_ home page -- there's nothing there but a title with an
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= animated gif, perhaps I should add some epistles? ;)   )
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ObWindows:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Just navigated the backup mess in Windows 11 -- looks like one can set
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= up periodic traditional backups in the control panel, but there's no
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= options in the separate "cloud backup" tool except Microsoft's thing
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Onedrive?).
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ObLinux:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I also have to figure out why the virt didn't see any network shares,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= which would be the Samba instances on the local workstation and on my
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Synology Diskstation...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= And BTW, regarding Windows:  I'm glad they've kept the control panel
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= from Windows 7. 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 

You might have to enable SMB V1 protocol

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/troubleshoot/detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-v2-v3?tabs=server

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"Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong.  I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>


Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
"	And yet, one can still see the headers.
     If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
     To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
     If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can 
do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)

"It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point.  It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.

"Bullshit!  You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more.  Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames, because that's the best you can do.  In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak.  In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic.  Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
"I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
"Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.

"I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists.  He wants friends who like pedo rapists.  Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

"Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me. I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want, they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only people left to talk to here."  One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and authoritative control of discussion.  As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>

"I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>

"If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better.  In fact, it does quite the opposite.  Why are you always so bitter and angry?  Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>

"You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.

Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Not true.  I've seen square waves on the oscilloscope from some certain generator.  Square waves can be created from other than sine waves. Sine waves aren't everything (or anything you sick pervert %), I think that's the point you are missing.  - Mathemagician "Lane Larson" in <939d6741-df96-5f2e-a444-b6dfd77de09e@stoat.inhoin.edu> seems to argue that square wave generators must use Fourier transforms "of course" to generate "almost" square waves... in his feeble attempt to quash my assertion that "square waves do not exist in reality" in post <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DKWuXdYTXCQ5ApC$@88.203.236.221=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>. 

"Colour me fanboi, oh yes indeed.  I'm a fanboi who is proudly content to be just that." - snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) in <1qx4ikk.c8jzw919si6cmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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#684048 — Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
SubjectSetting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)
Message-ID<lupafqFake0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684037
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 05:24:00 +0000, 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender
💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in
<=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DPmqKdu54gmAMf3$@92.78.154.93=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 05:24:00 +0000, JenDershmender
<root@127.0.0.1> wrote

> You might have to enable SMB V1 protocol
> 
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/
troubleshoot/detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-v2-v3?tabs=server

Um...no.  "Wouldn't be prudent."

The solution was to do the following:

1) Enter the share server name as an IP address, and
2) prefix the backup login user with "WORKGROUP\".

https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/5253-file-share-error-validation-information-class-requested-was-invalid/

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#684088 — Re: 🏳️‍🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️‍🌈

From🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
SubjectRe: 🏳️‍🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️‍🌈
Message-ID<=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DbNSthRFe2MzeWR0@90.196.130.144=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>
In reply to#684048
On 15 Jan 2025 08:38:18 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> 
determined that the following was of great importance to vallor
<vallor@cultnix.org> and subsequently decided to freely share it with
us in <lupafqFake0U1@mid.individual.net>:
 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 05:24:00 +0000,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DPmqKdu54gmAMf3$@92
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= .78.154.93=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 05:24:00 +0000, JenDershmender <root@127.0.0.1>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= wrote
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You might have to enable SMB V1 protocol
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= troubleshoot/detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-v2-v3?tabs=server
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Um...no.  "Wouldn't be prudent."
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The solution was to do the following:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 1) Enter the share server name as an IP address, and 2) prefix the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= backup login user with "WORKGROUP\".
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= https://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/5253-file-share-error-va
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= lidation-information-class-requested-was-invalid/ 
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 

I guess I gave you the benefit of doubt that you had checked that the login credentials were correct.

Some old hardware NAS are stuck with SMBv1 and require an exception.  SMBv1 on an internal private network that's properly firewalled isn't the security issue some might make it out to be.

-- 

"I am not a "hetero cismale"." - Steve K. Hall in <1r5hu1f.z02fkr1t8gjr5N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

"Claiming that I "refuse to respect pronouns" is dead wrong.  I respect them with everyone but "Jen" and "their" ilk, because "they" are a phony." - Scott Doty AKA Creon AKA Vallor AKA Doc Hammerhead declares why he ironically reserves the "right" to misgender others just like his MAGA bigot cohorts are wont to in Message-ID: <l54g7pF27huU2@mid.individual.net>


Message-ID: <nistjjhili8963p9l65oi962r3p4mktej5@4ax.com>
"	And yet, one can still see the headers.
     If you weren't so stupid, you would know how. I will try, and
likely fail, to dumb it down to your intellectual level.
     To the right of the post there are three dots. Click on them. A
few options will appear. Click on "Show original message" and follow
the instructions as best your learning disability will permit.
     If you still can't see the headers, there is nothing more I can 
do. I cannot dumb this down any more than I have." - Kenito Wills, stupider than shit-stupid. (See: https://ibb.co/MVsRGqN)

"It's just like you to read all that, and come up a sick and clueless response like that one, totally unrelated to the point.  It must get confusing to be intelligent enough to "sit at the best reading table in school," and fail to cobble together a basic understanding of what you've just read. The nasty side of you always manages to take control to guard your fragile ego, which explains why you never get along with people, and get visitors like Red Elephant who take the time and trouble to come by and embarrass you..." - <MPG.41696ec8ecc18ea4989796@usnews.blocknews.net> Jimbo responds to a yes/no question exactly as one might expect him to.

"Bullshit!  You salivate over every word I write, then beg for more.  Then when you realize that I've put you in another hole you can't worm your way out of... even if you did "sit at the best reading table in elementary school," YOU revert to pedo lames, because that's the best you can do.  In fact, no one here has any interest in your obsession with pedo lames but you, because you're intellectually weak.  In fact, you seem suspiciously obsessed with that topic.  Maybe some day we'll find out why." - <MPG.4169de194a070345989798@usnews.blocknews.net> No Jim, I am not "obsessed" with what you did and concealed and continue to backpedal from.

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/6FaoS9bawDI/m/Wdupq7BHaSkJ
"I've spoken against CPS many times. That I realize that they were 100% correct in regards to you doesn't mean I'm pro-CPS." - Kent Wills doesn't like Child Protection Services getting in his way of abusing children.

https://groups.google.com/g/misc.legal/c/AmluvRraNjg/m/gufYNdgK3E8J
"Greg has made it very clear he likes little girls. And not in a sexually healthy way." - Kent Wills believes that there's a "sexually healthy" way to be a pedophile.

"I'm actually glad it's out in the open now, it's a lot of weight to bear. Some will graciously accept that, and some probably won't. It makes it real easy to know who's worth regarding as a friend. Those few remaining haters hide behind socks... I wonder why?" - Checkmate AKA "Rick Sabian" AKA "Morphing Fuckwit" AKA "automatic tranny" AKA "jen der queer" AKA "livelong@and.prosper" AKA "FOAD <foad@grnail.corn>" AKA "Destiny <faghaitur@bucket.list>" AKA "DAVID KEETING <Squiggles@ass.worm>" AKA "f4c3411 <f3c4L@f37l5h.corn>" AKA "<"Hunter's Dildo <RumPPumPPa@uPPa.yOOaSS>" >" AKA "Mustafa Sheboygan" AKA "Peter, the Booty Judge" <root@127.0.0.1> AKA "Mund Harmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "Mundharmonika <root@127.0.0.1>" AKA "% <%@hotmale.com>" AKA "Checkmate <trouble@soon.corn>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@MOUTH.ORGAN>" AKA "Mundharmonika <R00T@127.O.O.1>" AKA "Tard Wrangler <youknowit@alphamale.corn>" hates when people hate pedo rapists.  He wants friends who like pedo rapists.  Write that down and don't forget it! <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/2VcCBNwMdeo/m/A0wpvxZRAAAJ>

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

"Yeah, but you think everybody's Greg. There are a couple people here who can't resist responding to everything the aSSwurm or the Pussy Willow says. It does me no good to plonk aSSwurm and Pussy Willow if I still have to wade through a hundred inane posts a day involving those two assholes, so now I've plonked the chronic responders as well. They'll figure it out, and then they can make a choice... exchange stupid drivel with those two, or have more intelligent and interesting conversations with me. I know damned well Greg got sick of all that shit, and now I'm sick of it too. Those who choose to get led around by the lowest common denominator are fucking up AC and every other group they play that game in. If that's the kind of Usenet they want, they can wallow in the same slop as the two retards elsewhere, because they're only contributing to fucking this group up too. I can take or leave this shit, because I have plenty to keep me occupied with my room addition project, and it's a hell of a lot more rewarding than exchanging baby talk with the likes of the aSSwurm. May his fucking worthless AIDS-infested carcass drop fucking dead ASAP and quit wasting oxygen. To sum it up, talk to those two idiots elsewhere, or they'll probably be the only people left to talk to here."  One can only presume that Jim and Creon/Vallor have solved this problem and are together in a private chat "having more intelligent and interesting conversations" instead of these "Civil" calls for shunning and authoritative control of discussion.  As Seen on TV : <MPG.35cd7d50e1b224b1994604@news.altopia.com>

"I'm pretty sure all gods are fictional, I'm smart enough to not proclaim I know this." - Kwills is only smart enough to doubt himself while arguing that a belief in imaginary made-up gods can't just be ignored as "mental illness" in <mo4q0j9tcqjt68s039loiacrbarihsh9i5@4ax.com>

"If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker." -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Trying to diminish others doesn't make you look any better.  In fact, it does quite the opposite.  Why are you always so bitter and angry?  Do you have AIDS or something like so many other tranny girls do?" -James "Checkmate" Gorman in <MPG.405409befd41f28898969d@test.blocknews.net>

"You should see my archive on you" -James "Checkmate" Gorman teases us with his "dosser" in <MPG.3eea81b23145043b98c338@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Sorry, nothing to see here. The joint wasn't as bad as they say, but I'm not looking to go back. I'm a model citizen, clean as a whistle. I've owned my own home for 12 years, owned my own business almost as long, don't bother anyone and they don't bother me. You have nothing in any "police report" pertaining to me. Don't you think they would have "come a-knockin" a long time ago if they had any reason to? You're delusional and paranoid, and I have to wonder why.

Oh... I should mention that there are a LOT of trannies in prison. I don't know why, but there are. The State even has to give them hormone shots for their tiddies at taxpayer's expense, and they wear bras and panties. I found everything about them revolting. That's why the whole "Bubba" thing is almost completely a myth, except in cell living. That shit wouldn't fly in a 100-man dorm, but trust me, those little trollops find ways to serve the willing when the lights go out. You see something, you keep your mouth shut about it because that way you don't get in a wreck. I never partook in such activities because the whole idea is just repulsive. I think that's a big part of what I don't like about you. I've seen how they act and I've talked to a few... total drama queens in every sense." -James "Checkmate" Gorman reminisces about prison in <MPG.3ceb37c2eddbaff98b07a@usnews.blocknews.net>

"Not true.  I've seen square waves on the oscilloscope from some certain generator.  Square waves can be created from other than sine waves. Sine waves aren't everything (or anything you sick pervert %), I think that's the point you are missing.  - Mathemagician "Lane Larson" in <939d6741-df96-5f2e-a444-b6dfd77de09e@stoat.inhoin.edu> seems to argue that square wave generators must use Fourier transforms "of course" to generate "almost" square waves... in his feeble attempt to quash my assertion that "square waves do not exist in reality" in post <=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3DKWuXdYTXCQ5ApC$@88.203.236.221=3D?U=3D?UTF-8?Q?T?=3DF-8?Q?=3DF0=3D9F=3D8C=3DBA?=3D>. 

"Colour me fanboi, oh yes indeed.  I'm a fanboi who is proudly content to be just that." - snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) in <1qx4ikk.c8jzw919si6cmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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#683961

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
Message-ID<rckhP.35678$Hfb1.27751@fx46.iad>
In reply to#683949
On 2025-01-13 18:25, Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-13 17:54, Joel wrote:
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-13 16:32, Joel wrote:
>>>>> MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/01/2025 23:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth
>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So which OS do you choose to expend your valuable time on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is the only option worth pursuing.  macOS is weird and
>>>>> expensive, Windows is bloatware beyond belief.
>>>>
>>>> There's not much to pursue in MacOS. It works as it should and it is a
>>>> fairly pleasant experience. However, I would agree that it's expensive.
>>>> After a while, you'll need tools to do additional things and on MacOS,
>>>> you're going to be paying money in most cases. Open-source is available
>>>> for it too, mind you.
>>>
>>> I just dislike Windows and macOS, it might be my own opinion but it's
>>> right for me.
>>
>> MacOS machines have a shelf life of about seven years before Apple
>> decides that your machine is no longer worth supporting with updates. As
>> we've seen, Windows machines get about seven, so it's a fair amount of
>> time. However, Linux has them both beat with unlimited support no matter
>> how pathetic the machine you're running it on is.
> 
> 
> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd
> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life.
> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view
> it already began to with 23H2.  Linux is the only way to solve this
> dilemma.

I just saw what I wrote. Windows machines get about ten years of 
updates, not seven. Macs consistently get the least.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

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#683963

FromManu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
Message-ID<vm4kho$28of2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683949
On 13/01/2025 23:25, Joel wrote:
> My machine is an interesting example - if I'd stayed with Win10, it'd
> be slammin', but then support would end relatively early in its life.
> So upgrade to 11, great, until the bloat overtakes it, as in my view
> it already began to with 23H2.  Linux is the only way to solve this
> dilemma.

It is an interesting example indeed. Linux gets bloats every two weeks 
and some people like it!  I don't and so I solved the dilemma by moving 
to Windows.

Have a nice day or evening where ever you are.

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#684045

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
Message-ID<vm7m77$2rnlk$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683963
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:

> Linux gets bloats every two weeks
> and some people like it!  I don't and so I solved the dilemma by moving
> to Windows.

Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy 
hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.

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#684046

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
Message-ID<vm7pg8$2s7ee$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684045
On Wed, 1/15/2025 1:56 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
> 
>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks
>> and some people like it!  I don't and so I solved the dilemma by moving
>> to Windows.
> 
> Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy 
> hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
> 

On an SSD, TRIM is preferred to defrag.

The Windows defragmenter is a pretty clever design now. The
one in WinXP era was written by a third party company, and it
was of the "solid green bar" kind, with all the files pushed
shoulder to shoulder. The one written in-house by Microsoft staff,
doesn't do that. Space is left between files. I haven't seen a
description of how that helps, but normally fragmentation is
not an issue. And I haven't seen reports of fragmentation-related
issues. The defragmenter does "consolidate", there is *some*
pushing together, but it's not the solid green line kind of
effort. This is why the defrag takes ten minutes instead of
eight hours.

Defragmentation of hard drives in Windows is still a thing,
and the Optimizer has this scheduled for once a week or so.
At which time, the fragmentation might be 2%-3% or so. Unless
you have used pathological tools to fragment the file systems
on purpose, they're not usually chopped all that much in a
time frame like that. You could, for example, use the Passmark
Fragmenter, to implement a pathological case.

The way Windows buffers data on writes has changed. And this
could be seen in the Passmark Fragmenter. In an OS like
windows 7, you could see fragments 4096 bytes in size (one cluster).
While the OS writes in cluster quanta, the write buffer was
changed to 64KB, and it won't write one cluster when one cluster
is ready. It waits until there is a larger amount. This caused
the writer on the Fragmenter to make no fragment smaller than
64KB. And you could no longer achieve the same level of "Swiss Cheese"
in the file system, as before. This could partially be due to the
prevalence of SSDs and the need to write in block-sized chunks,
or it could be related to the COW problem. But quietly, a change
was made to writing, and I haven't seen a popular article with
the details.

I don't use CCleaner here. What was the problem again ?
There are people who use Registry Cleaners. Is that clever ?
Not really. The registry files stay relatively small. They're
journaled for integrity, the file system has a journal as well,
making the Registry files quite good at avoiding trouble.
Corruption of the Registry might be more common in the
Win98 era when the power goes off.

   Paul

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#684173

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
Message-ID<vmc77d$3nl2p$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684046
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:52:40 -0500, Paul wrote:

> The Windows defragmenter is a pretty clever design now.

I’m sure it is. But it is yet more overhead that slows down a Windows 
system compared to Linux running on the same hardware.

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#684185 — Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
SubjectDefragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)
Message-ID<vmcjns$3su71$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684173
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 00:11:25 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vmc77d$3nl2p$5@dont-email.me>:

> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:52:40 -0500, Paul wrote:
> 
>> The Windows defragmenter is a pretty clever design now.
> 
> I’m sure it is. But it is yet more overhead that slows down a Windows
> system compared to Linux running on the same hardware.

Slow your roll, Chachi:

$ whatis e4defrag
e4defrag (8)         - online defragmenter for ext4 file system

-- 
-v

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#684237

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
Message-ID<vmeo0h$9hcv$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684185
Never had to use a defragger on Linux, and likely never will.

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#684078

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
Message-ID<2jlfoj1ik2eptf57n2vtpfcsjhnmjc2pd8@4ax.com>
In reply to#684045
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>
>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks
>> and some people like it!  I don't and so I solved the dilemma by moving
>> to Windows.
>
>Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy 
>hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.


I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
from time to time.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#684111

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
Message-ID<luqtrgFijddU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684078
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:40:14 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>>
>>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks and some people like it!  I don't
>>> and so I solved the dilemma by moving to Windows.
>>
>>Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy
>>hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
> 
> 
> I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
> from time to time.

I haven't bothered with dual boot in a long time but the problem with a 
Windows install that had been running for any length of time was it left 
pecker tracks all over the HDD. You had to defrag to get enough free 
storage all in one place. 

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#684113

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
Message-ID<vm9mk9$36phj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684111
On Wed, 1/15/2025 6:14 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:40:14 -0500, Joel wrote:
> 
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks and some people like it!  I don't
>>>> and so I solved the dilemma by moving to Windows.
>>>
>>> Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy
>>> hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
>>
>>
>> I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
>> from time to time.
> 
> I haven't bothered with dual boot in a long time but the problem with a 
> Windows install that had been running for any length of time was it left 
> pecker tracks all over the HDD. You had to defrag to get enough free 
> storage all in one place. 
> 

Not in evidence.

The writer tends to maintain a couple of zones. Some
of the larger files seem to end up above, a lot of the smaller files
are below. The NTFS file system has a "reserved" area, which
interferes with operation of the partition, as the partition fills up.
This is why, quite frequently, patterns which should not create fragments,
result in "yellow" in a partition that should not have been there. The
reserved area starts at a certain size, and the amount of reservation
changes as the space fills up. For people who like their files packed
like sardines, they are most put out by this development :-)

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/YCDLWmkB/Windows-SSD-fragmentation.gif

These sample OSes are all on SSDs, where the rule is, you do not defragment them.
(SSDs get TRIM, instead.) The OS still has the right to defragment them,
if slow-COW conditions are detected. That should not have happened to these.

The top two panes are from a newer AMD system. The bottom two panes
are from the 4930K ten year old computer.

The "red line" is an item that cannot be moved by the defragmentation
tool used to make these pictures. I use the tool for taking pictures,
when these particular devices are involved. The fragmentation means
nothing (at this light level of fragmentation) to performance.

The "red line" can also not be moved by the windows Disk Management
"shrink function". It can shrink to about 50% of the original partition
space, when a partition does not have a lot of files. In the "red line example"
at the bottom, the Disk Management will shrink to 50%, while other methods
will shrink to 33% or so. The shrinking process stops when it hits
that red line.

Generally, if the program doing the shrink is doing it in an offline
fashion, that gives much better control than when the Windows one attempts
to do it online ("hot" shrink). Thus, gparted can shrink the red line pane,
to the 33% number without too much delay.

It's the same with zeroing functions. The Windows third party tool is
"sdelete64.exe" and it zeros a partition while the partition remains
mounted. Whereas Linux "zerofree" does this same kind of function
on unmounted partitions.

One reason the Windows people like to show off with their
functions such as shrink, is they're implemented with the
data-safe defragmenter API. Which was originally written
by a third party, but was good enough for Microsoft to buy
it and put it in the OS as a library. Everybody and his dog
uses that library. It would be "extra work" for somebody
to write an offline version of the tool instead :-) The tool
that took the green pictures, also uses that library.

There's still plenty of room to work on those partitions.

On this sample data partition, this shows how the writer
is filling in the holes, and the two "air holes" are likely
a result of the reserved space handling. Again, being on an
SSD, no attempt has ever been made to defragment the thing.
And the green, is files which are contiguous and their
clusters are in cluster-order. The yellow ones are "largely ordered",
but as soon as one cluster goes out of line for such a file,
the whole file will be yellow. Considering "how evil" fragmentation
is, you don't see a lot of fragmentation there.

    [Picture]

     https://i.postimg.cc/wjRgwtLp/Sample-Data-Partition.gif

*******

This picture was done seven years ago. The top two panes are
performance on a RAMdrive. Running a checksum program on
a large file, one with a lot of fragments, one with no fragments,
there is hardly any speed difference to the performance of the
checksum program when we are measuring the file system stack
penalty for fragments.

   [Picture} Top two panes = RAMDrive, bottom two panes = SATA SSD

   https://i.postimg.cc/ry7VnwF7/fragmentation.gif

Whereas the bottom case, the seek time on an SSD could be 20 microseconds
or so. And then the SSD speed does have an impact on the read rate of
the checksumming process. When doing these experiments, you do a bit of
fiddling first to clear the System Read cache.

No attempt was made to run that on a HDD, as the results would
be quite bad on an HDD. The rattling noise that would make, would
get on my nerves.

And the pattern on the storage there, was done with a purpose-built
pathological tool. I wasn't doing my income taxes to make that pattern.
Regular disk usage does not fragment like that.

Is Windows cheating to make relatively good-looking partitions ?
It's possible. I do not normally see suspicious patterns of the
drive light, hinting that some rearranging is going on. The write
algo has changed since WinXP days, whatever it is. Leaving holes
in the cheese, seems to have something to do with later placing
small files in the holes.

   Paul

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#684114

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
Message-ID<vm9nef$36t0s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684113
On 2025-01-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 1/15/2025 6:14 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:40:14 -0500, Joel wrote:
>> 
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks and some people like it!  I don't
>>>>> and so I solved the dilemma by moving to Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy
>>>> hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
>>>
>>>
>>> I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
>>> from time to time.
>> 
>> I haven't bothered with dual boot in a long time but the problem with a 
>> Windows install that had been running for any length of time was it left 
>> pecker tracks all over the HDD. You had to defrag to get enough free 
>> storage all in one place. 
>> 
>
> Not in evidence.
>
> The writer tends to maintain a couple of zones. Some
> of the larger files seem to end up above, a lot of the smaller files
> are below. The NTFS file system has a "reserved" area, which
> interferes with operation of the partition, as the partition fills up.
> This is why, quite frequently, patterns which should not create fragments,
> result in "yellow" in a partition that should not have been there. The
> reserved area starts at a certain size, and the amount of reservation
> changes as the space fills up. For people who like their files packed
> like sardines, they are most put out by this development :-)
>
>    [Picture]
>
>     https://i.postimg.cc/YCDLWmkB/Windows-SSD-fragmentation.gif
>
> These sample OSes are all on SSDs, where the rule is, you do not defragment them.
> (SSDs get TRIM, instead.) The OS still has the right to defragment them,
> if slow-COW conditions are detected. That should not have happened to these.
>
> The top two panes are from a newer AMD system. The bottom two panes
> are from the 4930K ten year old computer.
>
> The "red line" is an item that cannot be moved by the defragmentation
> tool used to make these pictures. I use the tool for taking pictures,
> when these particular devices are involved. The fragmentation means
> nothing (at this light level of fragmentation) to performance.
>
> The "red line" can also not be moved by the windows Disk Management
> "shrink function". It can shrink to about 50% of the original partition
> space, when a partition does not have a lot of files. In the "red line example"
> at the bottom, the Disk Management will shrink to 50%, while other methods
> will shrink to 33% or so. The shrinking process stops when it hits
> that red line.
>
> Generally, if the program doing the shrink is doing it in an offline
> fashion, that gives much better control than when the Windows one attempts
> to do it online ("hot" shrink). Thus, gparted can shrink the red line pane,
> to the 33% number without too much delay.
>
> It's the same with zeroing functions. The Windows third party tool is
> "sdelete64.exe" and it zeros a partition while the partition remains
> mounted. Whereas Linux "zerofree" does this same kind of function
> on unmounted partitions.
>
> One reason the Windows people like to show off with their
> functions such as shrink, is they're implemented with the
> data-safe defragmenter API. Which was originally written
> by a third party, but was good enough for Microsoft to buy
> it and put it in the OS as a library. Everybody and his dog
> uses that library. It would be "extra work" for somebody
> to write an offline version of the tool instead :-) The tool
> that took the green pictures, also uses that library.
>
> There's still plenty of room to work on those partitions.
>
> On this sample data partition, this shows how the writer
> is filling in the holes, and the two "air holes" are likely
> a result of the reserved space handling. Again, being on an
> SSD, no attempt has ever been made to defragment the thing.
> And the green, is files which are contiguous and their
> clusters are in cluster-order. The yellow ones are "largely ordered",
> but as soon as one cluster goes out of line for such a file,
> the whole file will be yellow. Considering "how evil" fragmentation
> is, you don't see a lot of fragmentation there.
>
>     [Picture]
>
>      https://i.postimg.cc/wjRgwtLp/Sample-Data-Partition.gif
>
> *******
>
> This picture was done seven years ago. The top two panes are
> performance on a RAMdrive. Running a checksum program on
> a large file, one with a lot of fragments, one with no fragments,
> there is hardly any speed difference to the performance of the
> checksum program when we are measuring the file system stack
> penalty for fragments.
>
>    [Picture} Top two panes = RAMDrive, bottom two panes = SATA SSD
>
>    https://i.postimg.cc/ry7VnwF7/fragmentation.gif
>
> Whereas the bottom case, the seek time on an SSD could be 20 microseconds
> or so. And then the SSD speed does have an impact on the read rate of
> the checksumming process. When doing these experiments, you do a bit of
> fiddling first to clear the System Read cache.
>
> No attempt was made to run that on a HDD, as the results would
> be quite bad on an HDD. The rattling noise that would make, would
> get on my nerves.
>
> And the pattern on the storage there, was done with a purpose-built
> pathological tool. I wasn't doing my income taxes to make that pattern.
> Regular disk usage does not fragment like that.
>
> Is Windows cheating to make relatively good-looking partitions ?
> It's possible. I do not normally see suspicious patterns of the
> drive light, hinting that some rearranging is going on. The write
> algo has changed since WinXP days, whatever it is. Leaving holes
> in the cheese, seems to have something to do with later placing
> small files in the holes.
>
>    Paul
Enjoy your posts Paul.
Just sayin'.

-- 
pothead

"Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
"Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
---  Barack H. Obama

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#684202

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-17 05:05 -0500
Message-ID<9makojd8r7e9klc4rf4nhisgeaei61v2ue@4ax.com>
In reply to#684111
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:40:14 -0500, Joel wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks and some people like it!  I don't
>>>> and so I solved the dilemma by moving to Windows.
>>>
>>>Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy
>>>hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
>> 
>> I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
>> from time to time.
>
>I haven't bothered with dual boot in a long time but the problem with a 
>Windows install that had been running for any length of time was it left 
>pecker tracks all over the HDD. You had to defrag to get enough free 
>storage all in one place. 


I would only dual-boot with a second Windows SSD, but I reject the Win
platform as a dead end.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#684211

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-17 08:53 -0500
Message-ID<6htiP.1615764$bYV2.1013803@fx17.iad>
In reply to#684202
On 1/17/25 5:05 AM, Joel wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:40:14 -0500, Joel wrote:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:09:43 +0000, Manu Raju wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Linux gets bloats every two weeks and some people like it!  I don't
>>>>> and so I solved the dilemma by moving to Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Windows is the one that needs regular defragging and running of dodgy
>>>> hacks like CCleaner etc. Linux does not.
>>>
>>> I never needed that with Windows, but reinstalling ended up happening,
>>> from time to time.
>>
>> I haven't bothered with dual boot in a long time but the problem with a
>> Windows install that had been running for any length of time was it left
>> pecker tracks all over the HDD. You had to defrag to get enough free
>> storage all in one place.
> 
> 
> I would only dual-boot with a second Windows SSD, but I reject the Win
> platform as a dead end.

I have to admit that once you get everything you use working in Linux, 
the idea of going back to Windows makes you feel sick to your stomach. 
It's hard not to love the stellar responsiveness of your computer under 
Linux. No matter how fast your computer is, it always feel like it's 
lagging in Windows. It's not even an fTPM issue; it just feels like the 
system is waiting on something else before it responds to your action.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

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#684213

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-17 10:43 -0500
Message-ID<1kukoj5ah84vq4dkapg6goe0ftgl2rt40s@4ax.com>
In reply to#684211
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>> I would only dual-boot with a second Windows SSD, but I reject the Win
>> platform as a dead end.
>
>I have to admit that once you get everything you use working in Linux, 
>the idea of going back to Windows makes you feel sick to your stomach. 
>It's hard not to love the stellar responsiveness of your computer under 
>Linux. No matter how fast your computer is, it always feel like it's 
>lagging in Windows. It's not even an fTPM issue; it just feels like the 
>system is waiting on something else before it responds to your action.


Linux doesn't take you for granted.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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