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| Started by | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| First post | 2025-01-10 12:37 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 186 — 27 participants |
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Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-10 12:43 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 13:59 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:30 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:39 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:39 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-21 06:05 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-21 08:49 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:35 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 22:43 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:54 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 04:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:38 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:28 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:36 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 10:05 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:11 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:28 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:55 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:44 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:39 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600
Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Cult of Unix🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:51 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:10 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:55 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:53 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:54 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:56 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
Re: Cult of Unix Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
Re: 🏳️🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 05:05 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 08:53 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 10:43 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 11:07 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:19 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:17 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:41 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:18 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:15 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 13:07 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-18 16:08 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:22 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 23:30 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:04 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 04:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 18:50 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:08 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-18 22:14 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 11:38 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 12:23 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 15:54 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:59 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 20:28 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 21:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:22 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 07:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:03 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 23:08 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 06:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:36 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-19 08:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:09 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:58 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:20 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-14 05:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:48 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:54 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:46 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 12:33 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:27 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-27 22:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 14:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 15:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:34 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 00:41 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:42 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 14:40 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:34 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:56 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 22:40 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:04 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-17 07:34 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs roger <rduffy@hotmail.com.invalid - 2025-01-17 14:01 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:15 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 15:57 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:50 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 21:52 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-16 21:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-16 18:33 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:44 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:51 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:11 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-17 13:03 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:00 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 23:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-30 13:35 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-30 17:32 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-01 00:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 06:58 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 07:18 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:31 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:39 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:00 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 15:59 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:41 -0500
Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000
Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500
Re: Gaming Laptops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600
Re: Gaming Laptops candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 20:10 +0000
Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:24 -0500
Re: Gaming Laptops pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-04 00:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:45 +0000
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:05 -0500
Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vmerhu$aa0e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684240 |
On 1/17/25 5:15 PM, Farley Flud wrote: > owever, I do suspect that the problem of accurately rectifying Julian > dates to various solar/lunar calendars has been solved long ago. Of course. It's just that instead of sitting down and doing a back of the envelop calculation to convert dates every time I encountered a lazy ass author who would use lunar and solar dates in the same article, confusing the heck out of readers, I decided to program the calculations once and for all. When I wrote the calendar program no such software accessible to people in general existed to do that. Years later some Arab wrote the "Hdate" program and provided it free to public, but It could not go back as far as I would need, and it only converted to and from Iranian solar and Islamic lunar calendars (if I remember it correctly). For something like a few decades after that I could not still find one suitable enough for me, and kept using my own program. And now I'm here, still using it :) I'm not sure anymore cause I've not checked it out recently, that there is or there isn't a calendar converter as good as my own, that's available free to public. Mine has minimal user interface of course. It is very utilitarian. Uses the same screen that you see in DOS. I have two versions of it. One that runs on Windows, and one that only runs on DOS. Once I asked Relf how that was possible. He didn't, or couldn't, answer it.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vmermd$aa0e$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684240 |
On 1/17/25 5:15 PM, Farley Flud wrote: > We need input from the GNU/Linux "experts" on this NG but I believe > that the "experts" are only a bunch of fat-chewing ignoramuses that > cannot distinguish their asses from a hole in the ground. If there is any experts in this forum and they're not answering, they're either cro-magnon or immature.
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-30 13:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vnggok$32kpf$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684150 |
On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: > Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a > _thrift_store. We all have to be proud of something. Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. He has a better shack than you. https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-30 17:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Z5TmP.1114896$EYNf.470145@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #684754 |
On 2025-01-30 1:35 p.m., DFS wrote: > On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: > >> Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a >> _thrift_store. > > > We all have to be proud of something. > > Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang > around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. > > He has a better shack than you. > > https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn LOL, I forgot about John Gohde. That guy must be being eaten by worms by now. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Telegram: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 00:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vnjpda$3od9i$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684754 |
On 2025-01-30, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: > On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: > >> Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a >> _thrift_store. > > > We all have to be proud of something. > > Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang > around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. > > He has a better shack than you. > > https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn Is that the joker who used to post about vitamin D to alt.os.linux ? -- pothead Why did Joe Biden pardon his family? Read below to learn the reason. The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 06:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <40onP.1416263$aTp4.377629@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #684813 |
On 2025-01-31 7:20 p.m., pothead wrote: > On 2025-01-30, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >> On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: >> >>> Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a >>> _thrift_store. >> >> >> We all have to be proud of something. >> >> Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang >> around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. >> >> He has a better shack than you. >> >> https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn > > Is that the joker who used to post about vitamin D to alt.os.linux ? Yes, and it seems that vitamin D is what'S causing him alive. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Telegram: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 07:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3ionP.81144$VnJ1.58097@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #684825 |
On 2025-02-01 6:58 a.m., CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-01-31 7:20 p.m., pothead wrote: >> On 2025-01-30, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >>> On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: >>> >>>> Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a >>>> _thrift_store. >>> >>> >>> We all have to be proud of something. >>> >>> Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang >>> around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. >>> >>> He has a better shack than you. >>> >>> https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn >> >> Is that the joker who used to post about vitamin D to alt.os.linux ? > > Yes, and it seems that vitamin D is what'S causing him alive. *keeping. I need to correct myself or else Haystacks Scotty will react by drinking a gallon of vegetable oil. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Telegram: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 06:31 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <2o4spjdbl73s7uf2ipftagg0iia324otb3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #684827 |
CrudeSausage wrote: >> Yes, and it seems that vitamin D is what'S causing him alive. > >*keeping. I need to correct myself or else Haystacks Scotty will react >by drinking a gallon of vegetable oil. Or some dumb fsck, who pretends that intelligent people don't make typos and will attack his superiors when they do. Shameless jackasshole and liar that he is, he thinks that's a path to "victory". -- "Only you [chrisv] are lying shamelessly." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 12:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m06j0hFj9duU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #684828 |
On Sat, 01 Feb 2025 06:31:57 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in <2o4spjdbl73s7uf2ipftagg0iia324otb3@4ax.com>: > CrudeSausage wrote: > >>> Yes, and it seems that vitamin D is what'S causing him alive. >> >>*keeping. I need to correct myself or else Haystacks Scotty will react >>by drinking a gallon of vegetable oil. > > Or some dumb fsck, who pretends that intelligent people don't make typos 'twas a brain-o with which I nailed Professor English the Bigot. > and will attack his superiors when they do. Shameless jackasshole and > liar that he is, he thinks that's a path to "victory". _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Q: I cant spell worth a dam. I hope your going too tell me what to do? A: Don't worry about how your articles look. Remember it's the message that counts, not the way it's presented. Ignore the fact that sloppy spelling in a purely written forum sends out the same silent messages that soiled clothing would when addressing an audience. -- Brad Templeton, _Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ And another thing(!): If calling out bigots is "woke", then "woke" is no longer a pejorative. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "Same to you and whatever you meant by that!"
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 16:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vnomd5$ruvf$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684828 |
On 2/1/2025 7:31 AM, shitv wrote: > Or some dumb fsck, who pretends that intelligent people Or some turdv who claims he's an intelligent person. > don't make > typos and will attack his superiors when they do. Shameless > jackasshole and liar that he is, he thinks that's a path to "victory". It's NOT typos. It's nonsensical gibberish, double-negatives, using the entirely wrong word... the usual mishmash of shitv idiocy worthy of a stroke victim. Then you call yourself "intellectually superior". DING! DING! DING!
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 15:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vnomc2$ruvf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684813 |
On 1/31/2025 7:20 PM, pothead wrote: > On 2025-01-30, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >> On 1/16/2025 3:40 PM, PhysFatFuck wrote: >> >>> Right now I'm using a computer that I bought last week for $12 in a >>> _thrift_store. >> >> >> We all have to be proud of something. >> >> Another useless, brokedown old geezer named John Gohde used to hang >> around cola and talk about his $16 thrift store computer. >> >> He has a better shack than you. >> >> https://imgur.com/a/x9kUxyn > > Is that the joker who used to post about vitamin D to alt.os.linux ? Yeah, that was the crazed Gohde. Every time someone famous died younger than him, he would idiotically crow about it like he was immortal.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmaq5q$3fd0d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684115 |
On 1/15/25 8:34 PM, Paul wrote: > On Wed, 1/15/2025 3:52 PM, -hh wrote: >> ... >> But do feel free to provide a detailed cost list. >> >> Because even the $100 you spent on the video card is >> subtracted off too, your $850 spent is still higher >> than $600, but now its only by +30%. > > > But you have control of your expenses. And freedom to make mistakes which can cost you more. > It all depends on your objectives and budget. > An upgrade could be $500 or it could be $2000. >> If you build your own computers, you can reuse > PSU, computer case (my daily driver case is 25 years old), > keyboard, mouse, and so on. My daily driver case, I think > that's about the fourth motherboard. Sure, there can be reuse, but with laptops now 80% of the PC market, this use case is increasingly niche. And in the 'mistakes' lane, over-reliance on recycling old stuff can gimp a system, which undermines the value of the upgrade effort. Plus some costs aren't all that significant to worry too much about. For example, if one wants to keep the old build running in parallel with the new, then having a case & PSU for each is inexpensive and makes it quite convenient... but that choice reduces the cost savings. > The trick to hitting points like this, is to look > at trailing-edge parts. When the kids are buying DDR5 > systems, you buy a DDR4 system. As long as the market > has some legs, a few reduced-cost motherboards will be > issued in a second wave (intended to "mop up" the > old processors), offering a small savings. The RAM can > be cheaper to quite a lot cheaper, than the current generation > RAM (DDR5). Sure, and the same "state of the shelf" sweet spot applies when shopping for a complete system too. > The enthusiast sites have more info, if you need it. Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in motivation: is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime? Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions. -hh
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmbeia$3jepl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684121 |
On Thu, 1/16/2025 6:22 AM, -hh wrote:
>
> Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in motivation: is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime?
> Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions.
The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit.
Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, when
I can have a twenty four phase VCore on an
expensive motherboard ?
Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when
I can pick up an 850W power supply at Best Buy ?
Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to.
On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you
went out and bought the 850W supply, it probably
would not fit in the small Dell case, neither would
the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal
load and there wouldn't even be a mounting location
for a fan to be added).
When you do a build, you control everything, and
no screwing around or taking shortcuts.
Let's take an example, Mr.LaptopMan. Take the lady
in the computer store the other day, a salesman
explaining to her that "the laptop with the 4070
is faster than the laptop with the 4060" for gaming.
Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady,
is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop
and it will be knackered after only four years. While you
are having a gaming experience, it won't last.
Whereas, with a desktop, if I wear the keycaps off my
keyboard playing Tetris, I just swap keyboards, takes
about ten seconds. If the video cards burns the
connector off, chuck it on the table, pop in another.
And if I want four NVMe storage, I can pop in a board
with four sleds on it, and boom, done.
With this, I could install twenty four NVMe on six cards.
"Asus Pro WS W790E-SAGE SE"
https://dlcdnwebimgs.asus.com/gain/f8c9b3f4-1a07-4645-aa79-594c48bd4090/w692
(Note desktop I/O style on the left)
https://dlcdnwebimgs.asus.com/files/media/35d86ad4-c99a-49d7-b8bb-09601ad49164/images/swiper_left.png
Same idea with an AMD processor. For a while, only Lenovo made
materials of this class, but now you can build them at home.
https://shop.asus.com/ca-en/90mb1fw0-m0aay0-pro-ws-wrx90e-sage-se.html
You're in control of the build. If something breaks,
you're in control of the repair too. No returning a unit
three times, hearing "no fault found", haranguing tech
support for a replacement machine and so on. Think of
the hair loss saved.
I don't want to use anyones "warranty service".
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/ry0VWG7J/home-build-what-you-want.gif
Paul
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <fdjiojt0fj9ft4plm2eu47itkdsi21mdcl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #684137 |
Paul wrote: > -hh wrote: >> >> Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in motivation: >> is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because tinkering with >> hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime? >> Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions. > >The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit. > >Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, when >I can have a twenty four phase VCore on an >expensive motherboard ? > >Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when >I can pick up an 850W power supply at Best Buy ? >Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to. >On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you >went out and bought the 850W supply, it probably >would not fit in the small Dell case, neither would >the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal >load and there wouldn't even be a mounting location >for a fan to be added). Yeah the non-standard components in Dells and HPs are a real turn-off, for those of us who are brave enough to open our PC cases. >When you do a build, you control everything, and >no screwing around or taking shortcuts. I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So we don't save any money, but they are better-built. >Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady, >is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop >and it will be knackered after only four years. While you >are having a gaming experience, it won't last. Gaming laptops are the worst. Hot running, loud, expensive, fragile.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lutmerF1tatU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #684142 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:28:47 -0600, chrisv wrote: > I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So we > don't save any money, but they are better-built. I keep looking at the Antec Sonata case gathering dust and think I should do something with it. The case is probably as obsolete as whatever is in it. It does have an upgraded PS since the heavily hyped Antec PS was one of a batch with a high failure rate. Then reality sets in. What would I do with it? I'm not a gamer. That reality set in when the video card failed and all I could find in the local shops were Hyper-Phaze Mark 7 Dual Thrusters that were about $200 more than I was going to pay for a generic card.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmcndb$3tjhj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684176 |
On Thu, 1/16/2025 7:27 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:28:47 -0600, chrisv wrote: > >> I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So we >> don't save any money, but they are better-built. > > I keep looking at the Antec Sonata case gathering dust and think I should > do something with it. The case is probably as obsolete as whatever is in > it. It does have an upgraded PS since the heavily hyped Antec PS was one > of a batch with a high failure rate. > > Then reality sets in. What would I do with it? I'm not a gamer. That > reality set in when the video card failed and all I could find in the > local shops were Hyper-Phaze Mark 7 Dual Thrusters that were about $200 > more than I was going to pay for a generic card. > That's a fine case. I own two of them. One of them seems to be older than the other, and the older one has weird slots for the addin cards. You can't add a two-slot wide video card, because a "bump" on the inside side of the case, conflicts with the two-slot-wide flat faceplate on the video card. But other than that, it has the excellent trays system. One generation of trays has black rubber cushions (not very thick), and the later one is silicone rubber and a bit thicker. The holes in the tray support legacy drives (like up to 6TB in capacity). The Helium drives (up to 24TB) have the holes in a different place. One guy on the Internet, used his 3D printer to make an Antec compatible tray with the holes in the correct place for the Helium drives. But I don't have any of those, so the 6TB is about the largest drive I can use in that PC (without using the inconvenient 5.25" bays in the top front). The Test Machine (ten years old), the trays have been sliding in and out of that thing for ten years. The SATA cables see a lot of use. I would not throw the Antec away. If anything, put it up on Ebay (with trays) and sell it to someone who likes those. For those who don't know about the trays, they slide out towards you, and compared to the hell of mounting drives in 5.25" bays, they are a dream to use. You still use four screws to fit the tray to the drive, but that's not hard to do, and I keep a Philips head screwdriver on the desk, to change drives. Don't use the USB2 ports on the Sonata case, because the wiring is a bit off on those. Antec didn't seem to have someone with an electrical background, to verify their front panel connectors. Buzz out the wiring on the assembly, and see if you can spot the swap. Fortunately, they never reversed VCC and GND on their wiring, so there were no "fireworks". Paul
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 16:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmmfue$3et6v$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684142 |
On 1/16/2025 1:28 PM, shitv wrote: > I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So > we don't save any money, but they are better-built. Jan 2010 I assembled a new system: * heavy tower case with builtin handle (Cooler Master Scout, $110) * high-end power supply (Seasonic X650 Gold, $170). (14+ years later and both are still in nearly perfect shape) * Gigabyte P55A UD3 motherboard, $135, lasted 12 years. * HIS video card, $163, lasted 6 years.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) |
| Message-ID | <m06k2qFj9dpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #684142 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:28:47 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in <fdjiojt0fj9ft4plm2eu47itkdsi21mdcl@4ax.com>: > Paul wrote: > >> -hh wrote: >>> >>> Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in >>> motivation: >>> is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because >>> tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime? >>> Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions. >> >>The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit. >> >>Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, when I can have a twenty four >>phase VCore on an expensive motherboard ? >> >>Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when I can pick up an 850W >>power supply at Best Buy ? >>Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to. >>On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you went out and bought the >>850W supply, it probably would not fit in the small Dell case, neither >>would the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal load and there >>wouldn't even be a mounting location for a fan to be added). > > Yeah the non-standard components in Dells and HPs are a real turn-off, > for those of us who are brave enough to open our PC cases. > >>When you do a build, you control everything, and no screwing around or >>taking shortcuts. > > I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So we > don't save any money, but they are better-built. > >>Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady, >>is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop and it will be >>knackered after only four years. While you are having a gaming >>experience, it won't last. > > Gaming laptops are the worst. Hot running, loud, expensive, fragile. There are exceptions to every rule. In that regard: ASUS tufbooks are tough. After updating it to Linux Mint 22.1, and while looking at the output of lspci(8), discovered this: 0000:00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core Processor Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (rev 02) There's an out-of-tree driver Linux driver for it, and apparently Intel is working to get it into the Linux kernel. Having said that, can't imagine why I'd use it. (I guess perhaps Windows Copilot might use it, but I'll defer to others regarding whether or not that is the case.) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "Sign on a clothing store - Come inside and have a fit."
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Gaming Laptops |
| Message-ID | <vnmdsp$biin$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #684831 |
On Sat, 2/1/2025 7:58 AM, vallor wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:28:47 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote > in <fdjiojt0fj9ft4plm2eu47itkdsi21mdcl@4ax.com>: > >> Paul wrote: >> >>> -hh wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course. Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in >>>> motivation: >>>> is the DIY because money's tight? Or is the motivation because >>>> tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime? >>>> Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions. >>> >>> The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit. >>> >>> Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, when I can have a twenty four >>> phase VCore on an expensive motherboard ? >>> >>> Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when I can pick up an 850W >>> power supply at Best Buy ? >>> Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to. >>> On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you went out and bought the >>> 850W supply, it probably would not fit in the small Dell case, neither >>> would the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal load and there >>> wouldn't even be a mounting location for a fan to be added). >> >> Yeah the non-standard components in Dells and HPs are a real turn-off, >> for those of us who are brave enough to open our PC cases. >> >>> When you do a build, you control everything, and no screwing around or >>> taking shortcuts. >> >> I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems. So we >> don't save any money, but they are better-built. >> >>> Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady, >>> is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop and it will be >>> knackered after only four years. While you are having a gaming >>> experience, it won't last. >> >> Gaming laptops are the worst. Hot running, loud, expensive, fragile. > > There are exceptions to every rule. In that regard: ASUS tufbooks > are tough. > > After updating it to Linux Mint 22.1, and while looking at the output > of lspci(8), discovered this: > > 0000:00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core Processor > Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (rev 02) > > There's an out-of-tree driver Linux driver for it, and apparently Intel > is working to get it into the Linux kernel. > > Having said that, can't imagine why I'd use it. (I guess perhaps Windows > Copilot might use it, but I'll defer to others regarding whether or not > that is the case.) > Your guess is as good as any. https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/12th-generation-intel-core-processors-datasheet-volume-1-of-2/003/intel-gmm-and-neural-network-accelerator/ Even the person making a URL for the article, was running out of letters. In a strange twist of fate, it's being used as a Direct Render Manager "thingy". No resource goes wasted, I would guess. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-GNA-To-DRM-Driver Paul
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Gaming Laptops |
| Message-ID | <tiuupjp1p0k2569aacau6e4alabj5h431k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #684836 |
Paul wrote: > vallor wrote: >> >> After updating it to Linux Mint 22.1, and while looking at the output >> of lspci(8), discovered this: >> >> 0000:00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core Processor >> Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (rev 02) >> >> There's an out-of-tree driver Linux driver for it, and apparently Intel >> is working to get it into the Linux kernel. >> >> Having said that, can't imagine why I'd use it. (I guess perhaps Windows >> Copilot might use it, but I'll defer to others regarding whether or not >> that is the case.) > >Your guess is as good as any. > >https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/12th-generation-intel-core-processors-datasheet-volume-1-of-2/003/intel-gmm-and-neural-network-accelerator/ > >Even the person making a URL for the article, was running out of letters. Interesting. I hadn't even heard of this GNA thingy before. >In a strange twist of fate, it's being used as a Direct Render Manager "thingy". >No resource goes wasted, I would guess. > >https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-GNA-To-DRM-Driver The article notes that Linux does not yet have a dedicated AI accelerator subsystem. I wonder when that's coming, and if we should be afraid.
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