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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-03-26 11:09 +1300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 237 — 21 participants |
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Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> - 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:54 -0500
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 09:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 14:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 15:52 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-21 16:47 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 13:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 12:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 15:56 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:27 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 17:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 19:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 08:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 12:21 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:41 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:22 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 22:34 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 13:39 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-10 10:07 +1200
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:24 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 15:39 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:58 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:15 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:22 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:36 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:32 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 18:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 16:55 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 17:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:21 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 23:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 02:50 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-04-05 20:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 07:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 08:07 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-07 08:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 15:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 01:26 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπJenπππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ Dershmendenderer ππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπΆη¬πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-06 03:18 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 03:35 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 04:31 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 03:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:01 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:08 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 05:37 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-27 10:05 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 17:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-26 19:05 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 03:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 11:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:44 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400
Computing chops (was: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-28 02:40 +0000
Re: Computing chops (was: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:57 -0400
Re: Computing chops (was: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-28 04:48 +0000
Re: Computing chops (was: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:17 -0400
Re: Computing chops DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-27 23:23 -0400
Re: Computing chops vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-28 04:36 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 14:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 15:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:09 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 20:33 -0400
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Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:25 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:01 -0400
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsjqg$1l5lu$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #687835 |
On 2025-03-22 20:15, vallor wrote: > On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:17:14 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in > <vrnqva$18oag$4@dont-email.me>: > >> On 2025-03-22 14:52, Joel wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in >>>>>>> support of needed apps and use]. >>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete? >>>>> >>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once. >>>> >>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use? >>> >>> >>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>> >>> >> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. > > I've owned two Mac Minis -- it's notebook hardware that runs slow as > molasses. Which two and doing what? Details please, processor, RAM. > > We have a Mac Studio now, which was _way_ overpriced for what we got. > Probably the most intensive application I've tried on it is Fooocus > (which uses pyTorch), and I'd roughly estimate it is 1/4 the speed > of my Linux workstation. > > (You might blame pyTorch for that, as perhaps it doesn't use > the GPU/NPU -- but I blame Apple for not ensuring > that such things are integrated immediately.) > > It does have acceptable performance for everything Mrs. vallor uses > it for, but that's not much. Nevertheless, it's better than we > saw with either of the Mac minis. (The first Mac mini we owned > had a 5400RPM spinner for its main drive! Ugh.) > > TL;DR: The Mac Studio is a certified UNIX(r) workstation -- and has > the price tag to prove it. But it doesn't chooch very well. > > (note addition of csma) >
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57vutjtk4j4chi3s7pbsnb0vtfodu8j3o8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #687832 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in support of needed apps and use]. >>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete? >>>> >>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once. >>> >>> What do you run, and what resources does each use? >> >> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png > >So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 at times having these tiny uses of swap. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsjrf$1l5lu$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #687836 |
On 2025-03-22 20:33, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in support of needed apps and use]. >>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete? >>>>> >>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once. >>>> >>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use? >>> >>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >> >> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. > > > Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 > at times having these tiny uses of swap. > Funny you won't show it, huh?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <anp3ujd7kc64sddqu921i695jca5u14pag@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #687998 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>> >>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >> >> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >> at times having these tiny uses of swap. > >Funny you won't show it, huh? I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the resources I've provided my system. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsuf2$1u3ji$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688005 |
On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>> >>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>> >>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >> >> Funny you won't show it, huh? > > > I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap > when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the > resources I've provided my system. > And you STILL won't show it.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrsuog$241pg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688022 |
On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>> >>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>> >>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>> >>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >> >> >> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >> resources I've provided my system. >> > > And you STILL won't show it. swapon -s free -m top Are just a couple of methods. There are more. -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsv5h$1u3ji$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688023 |
On 2025-03-24 17:52, pothead wrote: > On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>> >>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>> >>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>> >>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>> >>> >>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>> resources I've provided my system. >>> >> >> And you STILL won't show it. > > swapon -s > free -m > top > Are just a couple of methods. > There are more. And there are GUI options as well (I assume). The point is that when you make claims that you need 32GB of RAM (etc.)... ...it's your job to show it. π
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7r24ujtbb4h9f2bbp4tvh6jk990oq4ksm6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688025 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >On 2025-03-24 17:52, pothead wrote: >> On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>> >>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>> >>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>> resources I've provided my system. >>> >>> And you STILL won't show it. >> >> swapon -s >> free -m >> top >> Are just a couple of methods. >> There are more. >And there are GUI options as well (I assume). > >The point is that when you make claims that you need 32GB of RAM (etc.)... > >...it's your job to show it. > >? Why? Why are you doubting me? -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt58a$1u3ji$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688039 |
On 2025-03-24 18:48, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 17:52, pothead wrote: >>> On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>>> >>>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>>> resources I've provided my system. >>>> >>>> And you STILL won't show it. >>> >>> swapon -s >>> free -m >>> top >>> Are just a couple of methods. >>> There are more. >> And there are GUI options as well (I assume). >> >> The point is that when you make claims that you need 32GB of RAM (etc.)... >> >> ...it's your job to show it. >> >> ? > > > Why? Why are you doubting me? > Because you're dodging. Was that unclear to you?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u054ujhroflh77somj21tsf6h64ep4k66s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688023 |
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>> >>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>> >>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>> >>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>> >>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>> resources I've provided my system. >> >> And you STILL won't show it. > >swapon -s >free -m >top >Are just a couple of methods. >There are more. But there's a larger point here, that Alan can't perceive, which is that I'm not subject to Apple's ridiculous prices for hardware, I paid a little over a hundred in 2021 for a 1 TB NVMe SSD, something still to covet in an Apple machine in 2025. Upgrading to 32 GB RAM, installing the WiFi adapter and second SSD, even my video card, were all inexpensive upgrades. My computer rocks, because I made it, and that includes installing Linux, instead of being hand-held by Apple. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt59v$1u3ji$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688045 |
On 2025-03-24 19:28, Joel wrote: > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>> >>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>> >>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>> resources I've provided my system. >>> >>> And you STILL won't show it. >> >> swapon -s >> free -m >> top >> Are just a couple of methods. >> There are more. > > > But there's a larger point here, that Alan can't perceive, which is > that I'm not subject to Apple's ridiculous prices for hardware, I paid > a little over a hundred in 2021 for a 1 TB NVMe SSD, something still > to covet in an Apple machine in 2025. Upgrading to 32 GB RAM, > installing the WiFi adapter and second SSD, even my video card, were > all inexpensive upgrades. My computer rocks, because I made it, and > that includes installing Linux, instead of being hand-held by Apple. > And now you're trying to dodge the subject. You claimed you NEEDED these high specs... ...but you won't show that it's actually so.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9yxEP.1620830$TBhc.493565@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #688049 |
On 2025-03-24 22:44, Alan wrote: > On 2025-03-24 19:28, Joel wrote: >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-24 16:13, Joel wrote: >>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:Β https://i.imgur.com/ >>>>>>>>> yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily >>>>>>>> handle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>>> >>>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>>> resources I've provided my system. >>>> >>>> And you STILL won't show it. >>> >>> swapon -s >>> free -m >>> top >>> Are just a couple of methods. >>> There are more. >> >> >> But there's a larger point here, that Alan can't perceive, which is >> that I'm not subject to Apple's ridiculous prices for hardware, I paid >> a little over a hundred in 2021 for a 1 TB NVMe SSD, something still >> to covet in an Apple machine in 2025.Β Upgrading to 32 GB RAM, >> installing the WiFi adapter and second SSD, even my video card, were >> all inexpensive upgrades.Β My computer rocks, because I made it, and >> that includes installing Linux, instead of being hand-held by Apple. >> > > And now you're trying to dodge the subject. > > You claimed you NEEDED these high specs... > > ...but you won't show that it's actually so. Today's porn requires higher specifications than it used to. You can't expect Joel to suffer any kind of slowdown as he masturbates furiously to "girl cock." -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9e95uj5otvnbe9cbn5n79g0s6gbep6iejh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688105 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-03-24 22:44, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 19:28, Joel wrote: >>> >>> But there's a larger point here, that Alan can't perceive, which is >>> that I'm not subject to Apple's ridiculous prices for hardware, I paid >>> a little over a hundred in 2021 for a 1 TB NVMe SSD, something still >>> to covet in an Apple machine in 2025.Β Upgrading to 32 GB RAM, >>> installing the WiFi adapter and second SSD, even my video card, were >>> all inexpensive upgrades.Β My computer rocks, because I made it, and >>> that includes installing Linux, instead of being hand-held by Apple. >> >> And now you're trying to dodge the subject. >> >> You claimed you NEEDED these high specs... >> >> ...but you won't show that it's actually so. > >Today's porn requires higher specifications than it used to. You can't >expect Joel to suffer any kind of slowdown as he masturbates furiously >to "girl cock." Yeah hilarious, dude. In fact I have seen trans-woman porn on the Internet, and it's terrific. I don't always watch porn, though. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrtoh8$2t9og$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688005 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>> >>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>> >>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >> >> Funny you won't show it, huh? > > > I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap > when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the > resources I've provided my system. > Not at all. It just means the OS is being efficient and using the fastest local storage available to it as much as possible. RAM is mostly used for caches. If you were brave enough to show your memory usage you'd see it for yourself.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ulp4ujdstuf6fd49ii3os0p7trpdnnl17e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688095 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>> >>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>> >>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>> >>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >> >> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >> resources I've provided my system. > >Not at all. It just means the OS is being efficient and using the fastest >local storage available to it as much as possible. RAM is mostly used for >caches. > >If you were brave enough to show your memory usage you'd see it for >yourself. I have been monitoring it for months, I know how it goes. I have reached the point of the OS using swap, when main RAM and cache saturated the 32 GB. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrutpc$3ud57$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688096 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>> >>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>> >>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>> >>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>> >>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>> resources I've provided my system. >> >> Not at all. It just means the OS is being efficient and using the fastest >> local storage available to it as much as possible. RAM is mostly used for >> caches. >> >> If you were brave enough to show your memory usage you'd see it for >> yourself. > > > I have been monitoring it for months, I know how it goes. I have > reached the point of the OS using swap, when main RAM and cache > saturated the 32 GB. That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pqu5ujpc0b7vdvi0o1ahe80jf60gg2ube6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688125 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> the [Linux] OS us[ed] swap, when main RAM and cache >> saturated the 32 GB. > >That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. Oh sure, I'll just rely on swap! Great, back to the 1990s, heh. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrvhgk$g116$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688127 |
On 2025-03-25 11:54, Joel wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> the [Linux] OS us[ed] swap, when main RAM and cache >>> saturated the 32 GB. >> >> That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. > > > Oh sure, I'll just rely on swap! Great, back to the 1990s, heh. > What you showed was 25GB usage and some of that was caching. You were nowhere NEAR needing swap space.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nki6ujhde8404g8m02l2l88i62udgdctcv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #688149 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >On 2025-03-25 11:54, Joel wrote: >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> the [Linux] OS us[ed] swap, when main RAM and cache >>>> saturated the 32 GB. >>> >>> That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. >> >> Oh sure, I'll just rely on swap! Great, back to the 1990s, heh. > >What you showed was 25GB usage and some of that was caching. > >You were nowhere NEAR needing swap space. But if I *didn't* have the whole 32 GB, Alan, the RAM would get saturated rather quickly, leading to use of swap. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrvjp7$i3uj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #688151 |
On 2025-03-25 17:33, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-25 11:54, Joel wrote: >>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> the [Linux] OS us[ed] swap, when main RAM and cache >>>>> saturated the 32 GB. >>>> >>>> That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. >>> >>> Oh sure, I'll just rely on swap! Great, back to the 1990s, heh. >> >> What you showed was 25GB usage and some of that was caching. >> >> You were nowhere NEAR needing swap space. > > > But if I *didn't* have the whole 32 GB, Alan, the RAM would get > saturated rather quickly, leading to use of swap. And yet you weren't able to show that. Weird, huh?
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