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Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE

Started byTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
First post2016-01-20 07:18 -0800
Last post2016-03-07 12:13 -0500
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  Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 07:18 -0800
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-20 10:33 -0500
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-20 10:07 -0600
      Why bigots suck compared to normal people chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-20 10:40 -0600
        Yet Turdv uses windows exclusively.  LOL!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-20 11:59 -0700
      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-20 18:49 +0000
    The votes are in. Takuya Saitoh is a bigot John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 08:51 -0800
      Re: The votes are in. Takuya Saitoh is a bigot Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 09:40 -0800
        Re: The votes are in. Takuya Saitoh is a bigot John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 12:40 -0800
      The votes are in. Takuya Saitoh is a bigot John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:46 -0800
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-20 17:05 +0000
      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 09:37 -0800
        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-20 17:54 +0000
        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-20 21:19 +0100
          Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 21:32 +0000
            Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:31 -0800
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2016-01-20 19:59 -0800
      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-21 06:59 -0600
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2016-01-20 20:00 -0800
      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 20:44 -0800
        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-21 07:34 +0000
        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-21 05:42 -0500
          Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 03:49 -0800
            Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-21 08:02 -0500
              Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-21 10:28 -0600
              Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:31 +0100
              Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-21 14:21 -0700
            Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-21 13:07 +0000
          Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-21 10:23 -0600
            Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 18:14 -0800
              Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2016-01-21 22:14 -0800
                Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 22:28 -0800
                  Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2016-01-21 22:39 -0800
                    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 00:29 -0800
                      There is no translator that will rid Taka of insani John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 03:56 -0800
                    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-22 10:46 -0500
                      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 22:34 -0800
                        KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 03:40 -0800
                          Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-31 13:54 +0100
                            Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 05:07 -0800
                              Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-31 14:27 +0100
                                Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 06:09 -0800
                                  Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-31 15:25 +0100
                                    Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 07:45 -0800
                                      Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-31 17:57 +0100
                                        Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 09:38 -0800
                                          Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 14:12 -0800
                                            Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 21:20 -0800
                                              KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 03:50 -0800
                                    Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 21:51 -0800
                                      Experience the pure KDE touch with ChakraOS! Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 23:16 -0800
                                        KDE Sucks!  That is ALL that anybody needs to know. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:00 -0800
                                          Re: KDE Sucks!  That is ALL that anybody needs to know. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-05 20:42 +0100
                                            Re: KDE Sucks!  That is ALL that anybody needs to know. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 12:26 -0800
                                            Re: KDE Sucks! That is ALL that anybody needs to know. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-05 21:41 -0500
                                  Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 07:27 -0800
                                    Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 07:47 -0800
                                  Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-31 17:40 +0100
                                    Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-31 13:40 -0500
                          Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-31 22:32 +0000
                            Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 14:55 -0800
                            Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 08:18 -0600
                              Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-01 10:28 -0500
                                Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 09:39 -0600
                                  Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-01 13:57 -0500
                            Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 21:38 -0800
                        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-31 13:36 +0100
                        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 13:45 -0800
                          Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-01 16:32 -0600
                  Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-22 10:46 -0500
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2016-01-21 22:13 -0800
    Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:12 -0800
      Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:32 -0800
        Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 03:22 -0800
          Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 23:00 -0800
            Re: Why Gnome sucks compared to KDE Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-03-07 12:13 -0500

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#341215

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-21 07:34 +0000
Message-ID<thjeeis9.3r0@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341212
Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>> > 
>> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
> 
> Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do DVD *.iso
> 

Is this what you mean?
https://vid.me/0qtZ

> Nothing compares to kaffeine/WinDVD/CorelDVD (what a putz that Totem player be;-)
> 
> Only dumbasses like Gohde burn the downloaded DVD first to be able to play it in Linux...

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#341220

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-21 05:42 -0500
Message-ID<n7qcm5$rgn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341212
Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>> > 
>> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>
> Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
> DVD *.iso

So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
every app have code to do that?

-- 
I dote on his very absence.
		-- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"

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#341224

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-21 03:49 -0800
Message-ID<474cfd81-dd68-4f0a-8abf-4b403bbff115@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341220
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC+9, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
> >> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
> >> > 
> >> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
> >> 
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
> >> 
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
> >
> > Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
> > DVD *.iso
> 
> So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
> every app have code to do that?
> 
> -- 
> I dote on his very absence.
> 		-- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"

'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like the command line for server applications and security but not for the entertainment...

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#341232

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-21 08:02 -0500
Message-ID<n7qktf$nn4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341224
Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC+9, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>> > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>> >> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>> >> > 
>> >> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>> >> 
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>> >> 
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>> >
>> > Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
>> > DVD *.iso
>> 
>> So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
>> every app have code to do that?
>
> 'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like
> the command line for server applications and security but not for the
> entertainment...

Heh, I would bet a GUI file manager would mount it for your
feckless self.  There are also stand-alone utilities.  You are too
ingrained in the 'DozeWorld.

-- 
Well, anyway, I was reading this James Bond book, and right away I realized
that like most books, it had too many words.  The plot was the same one that
all James Bond books have: An evil person tries to blow up the world, but
James Bond kills him and his henchmen and makes love to several attractive
women.  There, that's it: 24 words.  But the guy who wrote the book took
*thousands* of words to say it.
	Or consider "The Brothers Karamazov", by the famous Russian alcoholic
Fyodor Dostoyevsky.  It's about these two brothers who kill their father.
Or maybe only one of them kills the father.  It's impossible to tell because
what they mostly do is talk for nearly a thousand pages.  If all Russians talk
as much as the Karamazovs did, I don't see how they found time to become a
major world power.
	I'm told that Dostoyevsky wrote "The Brothers Karamazov" to raise
the question of whether there is a God.  So why didn't he just come right
out and say: "Is there a God? It sure beats the heck out of me."
	Other famous works could easily have been summarized in a few words:
* "Moby Dick" -- Don't mess around with large whales because they symbolize
  nature and will kill you.
* "A Tale of Two Cities" -- French people are crazy.
		-- Dave Barry

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#341248

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2016-01-21 10:28 -0600
Message-ID<slrnna21pf.5mi.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#341232
On 2016-01-21, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC+9, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>> 
>>> > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>>> >> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>>> >> 
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>>> >> 
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>>> >
>>> > Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
>>> > DVD *.iso
>>> 
>>> So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
>>> every app have code to do that?
>>
>> 'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like

   Except you've already gone past that point. This is no longer a DVD but
an arcane and oudated way of addressing the content on one.

   Nobody messes around with images of audio CDs either.

>> the command line for server applications and security but not for the
>> entertainment...
>
> Heh, I would bet a GUI file manager would mount it for your
> feckless self.  There are also stand-alone utilities.  You are too
> ingrained in the 'DozeWorld.
>

   Not even that. This is a weird corner case of "not quite ripped" content.

   It's been pulled off the original media but then kept in a format that pretty
much no one would want to use. Once you've gotten something off of a DVD or BD, 
why bother with treating it like physical media when you can have the full 
"iTunes style" experience?

   I didn't do that 10 years ago. Why would anyone do it today?

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#341262

From"1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-21 19:31 +0100
Message-ID<0afc09f42a7d55ddfa7537def29f47f6@dizum.com>
In reply to#341232
"Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wimpered 
> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>>
>> 'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like
>> the command line for server applications and security but not for the
>> entertainment...
> 
> Heh, I would bet a GUI file manager would mount it for your
> feckless self.  There are also stand-alone utilities.  You are too
> ingrained in the 'DozeWorld.
> 

shut the fsck up you idiot.

keep your nose out of adult topics.

stick to giggling, wiping pee-pees and reading your beloved mad magazine.

you are a clueless moron. end of story.

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#341272

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-21 14:21 -0700
Message-ID<n7ri0p$f3j$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341232
On 01/21/16 06:02, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC+9, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>>>>>> Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>>>>
>>>> Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
>>>> DVD *.iso
>>>
>>> So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
>>> every app have code to do that?
>>
>> 'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like
>> the command line for server applications and security but not for the
>> entertainment...
>
> Heh, I would bet a GUI file manager would mount it for your
> feckless self.  There are also stand-alone utilities.  You are too
> ingrained in the 'DozeWorld.
>

Yeah, it'll mount it but it won't play it without the codecs needed for 
that DVD.

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#341233

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-21 13:07 +0000
Message-ID<triefa03.afe@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341224
Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC+9, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>> > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>> >> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>> >> > 
>> >> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>> >> 
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>> >> 
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>> >
>> > Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
>> > DVD *.iso
>> 
>> So what?  You can mount an ISO file as a loopback device.  Why should
>> every app have code to do that?
>> 
>> -- 
>> I dote on his very absence.
>>               -- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"
> 
> 'cause it's convenient to play full DVDs with just a mouse click.  I like the command line for server applications and security but not for the entertainment...

Double-click the iso and VLC runs the video for me:
https://vid.me/6Qtg

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#341249

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2016-01-21 10:23 -0600
Message-ID<slrnna21fn.5mi.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#341220
On 2016-01-21, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>>> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
>>> > 
>>> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
>>
>> Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
>> DVD *.iso

    I doubt that. I was using xine to handle ISO files 10 years ago. Not that
I bother with that sort of thing anymore. 

    I abandoned complete DVD images a long time ago. It really defeats the 
point of getting rid of the original media if you are going to keep putting 
up with the bother of the original menus.

    Then there's the wasted space aspect, and more modern devices being
fixated on h264, and I'm not even sure that mobile devices could handle 
either variation on trying to preserve unique snowflake of a UI that is
the DVD/BD menu.

[deletia]

    I expect a bit more out of the media I assimilate...

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#341299

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-21 18:14 -0800
Message-ID<e67aa7fa-c118-43cf-bc44-130f576ff6a0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341249
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 1:30:11 AM UTC+9, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2016-01-21, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > Takuya Saitoh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >
> >> On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:00:41 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 09:18:56 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
> >>> > Look at the multimedia apps e.g. kaffeine or ktorrent.  What are the Gnome alternatives? The Gnome Totem is a joke which cannot deal with playing DVDs from folder of HDD or *.iso file while Kaffeine works perfectly like a Windoze WinDVD ;-)  Linux better stick with its original Desktop like KDE because trying to emulate that Windoze with things like Gnome is a total disaster...
> >>> > 
> >>> > I guess the BSD is also KDE-like and not adapting the mess of Gnome...
> >>> 
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
> >>> 
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPlayer
> >>
> >> Only VLC can do DVD menus from folder (VIDEO_TS) and none of them can do
> >> DVD *.iso
> 
>     I doubt that. I was using xine to handle ISO files 10 years ago. Not that
> I bother with that sort of thing anymore. 
> 
>     I abandoned complete DVD images a long time ago. It really defeats the 
> point of getting rid of the original media if you are going to keep putting 
> up with the bother of the original menus.
> 
>     Then there's the wasted space aspect, and more modern devices being
> fixated on h264, and I'm not even sure that mobile devices could handle 
> either variation on trying to preserve unique snowflake of a UI that is
> the DVD/BD menu.

I like the classical menus and chapters (and extras) in the backups of movie DVDs on my harddisk.  h264 cannot incorporate that...

Another area where KDE excels Gnome is digital photography:

digiKam (KDE) is far superior to shotwell (Gnome)

What a putz that Gnome and "Ubuntu DE" be ;-)

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#341312

Fromlilzebra68@gmail.com
Date2016-01-21 22:14 -0800
Message-ID<5ecb8a1d-822f-41a6-8fff-b8c6e5869213@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341299
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:14:18 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:

> digiKam (KDE) is far superior to shotwell (Gnome)

I agree though that Shotwell is plain UGLY.

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#341314

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-21 22:28 -0800
Message-ID<ba715013-7cb7-4853-bad6-55b8ac88699b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341312
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 3:14:28 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:14:18 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
> 
> > digiKam (KDE) is far superior to shotwell (Gnome)
> 
> I agree though that Shotwell is plain UGLY.

The only piece of software worth it from the Gnome manufacture is Evolution (thought I haven't tried Kmail yet).

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#341316

Fromlilzebra68@gmail.com
Date2016-01-21 22:39 -0800
Message-ID<5410fb15-1d02-408b-9ece-3181b84afa57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341314
On Friday, 22 January 2016 00:28:32 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 3:14:28 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:14:18 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
> > 
> > > digiKam (KDE) is far superior to shotwell (Gnome)
> > 
> > I agree though that Shotwell is plain UGLY.
> 
> The only piece of software worth it from the Gnome manufacture is Evolution (thought I haven't tried Kmail yet).

I tried Evolution back in 2013. It's based on Novell Groupwise, so it _should be_ a terrific application.

However, I constantly had troubles with it asking me every few minutes for a password. Sometimes it would let me download all the e-mails, sometimes it wouldn't.

Very unreliable for me.

Last year I discovered Geary, which works just great with my Yahoo! Mail and GMail accounts.

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#341320

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-22 00:29 -0800
Message-ID<02099ffa-7764-4427-bef1-394141385130@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341316
The text translator is also a joke in Gnome, the junkies cannot get it right:

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/593/text-translator/

I'm moving to KDE, if only for the translation support:

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=110491

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#341326 — There is no translator that will rid Taka of insani

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-22 03:56 -0800
SubjectThere is no translator that will rid Taka of insani
Message-ID<611b50e6-1f65-46df-9ab9-486304643bc2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341320
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 3:29:10 AM UTC-5, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> The text translator is also a joke in Gnome, the junkies cannot get it right:
> 
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/593/text-translator/
> 
> I'm moving to KDE, if only for the translation support:
> 
> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=110491


There is no translator that will rid Taka of insanity.

Go drink more of your Fuku water.

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#341374

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-22 10:46 -0500
Message-ID<n7tio7$tq8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341316
On 2016-01-22 1:39 AM, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 22 January 2016 00:28:32 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 3:14:28 PM UTC+9, lilze...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:14:18 UTC-6, Takuya Saitoh  wrote:
>>>
>>>> digiKam (KDE) is far superior to shotwell (Gnome)
>>>
>>> I agree though that Shotwell is plain UGLY.
>>
>> The only piece of software worth it from the Gnome manufacture is Evolution (thought I haven't tried Kmail yet).
> 
> I tried Evolution back in 2013. It's based on Novell Groupwise, so it _should be_ a terrific application.
> 
> However, I constantly had troubles with it asking me every few minutes for a password. Sometimes it would let me download all the e-mails, sometimes it wouldn't.
> 
> Very unreliable for me.

Welcome to free software.

< snip >


-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
"Everything seems to work fine, except that occasionally everything
freezes." - Another one of GNU/Linux's many victims
"Sound wasn't even a gauranteed thing on a PC in the 90s." - Linux
apologist JEDIDIAH explaining why sound never worked/works right in Linux

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#342197

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 22:34 -0800
Message-ID<2ac9419d-a81c-4ecc-a81d-e06d5a22ef9b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341374
http://lifehacker.com/5860851/the-best-disc-burning-app-for-linux

K3b for DVD authoring again native KDE app ;-)

Any better Gnome alternatives? I don't think so, what a putz created by a loose bunch of hackers that Gnome3 be....  Also the reason why Mr.Moi sticks to his Gnome2 with nostalgic Windoze look?

---------------------------

When yo want to create a DVD in Linux get ready for weeks of struggle and learning in command prompt:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_any_Movie_to_DVD_Video

The same in Windoze?  Easy single afternoon event with

http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw5.html

And the same in MAC?  I guess even easier but more costly....

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#342201 — KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 03:40 -0800
SubjectKDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.
Message-ID<49878417-dafa-4bcb-a07d-ec1f9439af85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#342197
On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:34:07 AM UTC-5, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> http://lifehacker.com/5860851/the-best-disc-burning-app-for-linux
> 
> K3b for DVD authoring again native KDE app ;-)
> 
> Any better Gnome alternatives? I don't think so, what a putz created by a loose bunch of hackers that Gnome3 be....  Also the reason why Mr.Moi sticks to his Gnome2 with nostalgic Windoze look?
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> When yo want to create a DVD in Linux get ready for weeks of struggle and learning in command prompt:
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_any_Movie_to_DVD_Video
> 
> The same in Windoze?  Easy single afternoon event with
> 
> http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw5.html
> 
> And the same in MAC?  I guess even easier but more costly....


KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.

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#342204 — Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-31 13:54 +0100
SubjectRe: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.
Message-ID<20160131135434.64cb1c5a@maxa-pc>
In reply to#342201
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 03:40:40 -0800 (PST)
John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:34:07 AM UTC-5, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> > http://lifehacker.com/5860851/the-best-disc-burning-app-for-linux
> > 
> > K3b for DVD authoring again native KDE app ;-)
> > 
> > Any better Gnome alternatives? I don't think so, what a putz
> > created by a loose bunch of hackers that Gnome3 be....  Also the
> > reason why Mr.Moi sticks to his Gnome2 with nostalgic Windoze look?
> > 
> > ---------------------------
> > 
> > When yo want to create a DVD in Linux get ready for weeks of
> > struggle and learning in command prompt:
> > 
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_any_Movie_to_DVD_Video
> > 
> > The same in Windoze?  Easy single afternoon event with
> > 
> > http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw5.html
> > 
> > And the same in MAC?  I guess even easier but more costly....  
> 
> 
> KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.

Bullshit. KDE 5 is not bloated at all....

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#342205 — Re: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 05:07 -0800
SubjectRe: KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.
Message-ID<20da4af2-eb8f-4bc6-bf43-82b9c15bfbd0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#342204
On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-5, Twit from NJ wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 03:40:40 -0800 (PST)
> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:34:07 AM UTC-5, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> > > http://lifehacker.com/5860851/the-best-disc-burning-app-for-linux
> > > 
> > > K3b for DVD authoring again native KDE app ;-)
> > > 
> > > Any better Gnome alternatives? I don't think so, what a putz
> > > created by a loose bunch of hackers that Gnome3 be....  Also the
> > > reason why Mr.Moi sticks to his Gnome2 with nostalgic Windoze look?
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------
> > > 
> > > When yo want to create a DVD in Linux get ready for weeks of
> > > struggle and learning in command prompt:
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_any_Movie_to_DVD_Video
> > > 
> > > The same in Windoze?  Easy single afternoon event with
> > > 
> > > http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw5.html
> > > 
> > > And the same in MAC?  I guess even easier but more costly....  
> > 
> > 
> > KDE is bloated and overrated, much like your fat Arse, Takuya Saitoh.
> 
> Bullshit. KDE 5 is not bloated at all....


Of course it is bloated!  What a putz the Twit from NJ be. KDE REQUIRES more resources, which makes it bloated by definition.

Sadly, just more gnu/Linux lies from the Twit from NJ.

Support the Ubuntu/Linux DE Standard.

Who says so? Moi does.
--
Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE
Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz?
Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj
Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y
Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b
the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5
My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g
Open Source Licenses spiel: http://tinyurl.com/hmfcura

Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.

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