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| Started by | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-05-12 12:38 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-05-13 05:17 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 527 — 13 participants |
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Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-12 12:38 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 14:35 +0000
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-13 00:48 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 19:02 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-13 04:28 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 21:42 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 22:52 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-13 16:58 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 10:13 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-13 18:22 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 11:28 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:33 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 13:43 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 14:16 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 16:48 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 17:59 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 18:33 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 19:50 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 20:40 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 21:49 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 22:46 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 10:15 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 11:15 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:27 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 18:30 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:09 -0700
Does anyone here know of a proud bot owner who'd... Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-14 13:36 -0700
Re: Does anyone here know of a proud bot owner who'd... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 14:13 -0700
Re: Does anyone here know of a proud bot owner who'd... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 14:45 -0700
Re: Does anyone here know of a proud bot owner who'd... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 14:43 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 14:42 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 15:22 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 15:41 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 16:54 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 17:00 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 19:53 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:04 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 20:22 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:34 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 20:37 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:50 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 20:56 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 23:24 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:00 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 21:18 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:01 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 11:25 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:58 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 12:15 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:10 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:47 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:59 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 14:08 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 14:30 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 15:48 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 16:17 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 16:26 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 17:38 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 20:14 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 16:18 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 16:43 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 16:50 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 17:22 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 17:26 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 17:36 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 18:05 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 20:55 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:48 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-13 14:06 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-15 18:41 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:58 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-15 19:31 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 12:08 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-15 19:54 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 13:07 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:44 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 13:43 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-15 21:33 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 14:36 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-15 21:53 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 14:56 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 00:49 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 17:59 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 01:47 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 18:52 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 02:05 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 19:09 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 01:10 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 19:11 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 19:07 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-15 19:06 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 23:20 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 19:47 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 05:45 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 06:02 +0000
Re: Observations Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 09:01 -0400
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 07:14 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 15:16 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 08:46 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 16:26 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 09:42 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 10:21 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 09:57 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 10:26 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 10:33 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 11:08 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:07 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 14:14 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:45 -0700
Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 11:57 -0500
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 10:22 -0700
Re: Observations Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 13:44 -0400
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 10:52 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 18:33 +0000
Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-17 14:26 -0500
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:13 -0700
Re: Observations Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 16:43 -0400
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:44 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:09 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 14:16 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:46 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 22:29 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 15:40 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 12:53 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 14:36 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 15:30 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 15:42 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 23:14 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 17:07 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-18 00:39 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 18:02 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-18 01:17 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 18:30 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 11:57 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 12:52 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 14:45 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 15:39 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 18:27 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:21 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 19:49 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 20:08 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 20:17 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 20:25 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 20:37 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 20:53 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 21:10 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 21:22 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 21:31 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 12:04 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 13:03 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 13:12 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 13:34 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 13:50 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 14:02 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 15:37 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 15:47 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 15:50 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 17:04 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 17:53 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 18:29 -0700
Re: Observations Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-19 01:33 +0000
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 18:39 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 19:12 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 20:13 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 23:03 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 08:16 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-19 08:28 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 08:47 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-19 08:50 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 09:00 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-19 09:03 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 09:25 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-19 09:27 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 09:32 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 17:39 -0700
Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-21 07:16 -0500
Re: Observations Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-21 09:20 -0400
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 07:23 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 08:41 -0700
Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 08:22 -0500
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-21 09:31 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 09:59 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 11:23 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-21 19:28 +0000
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 14:39 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 20:21 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 00:31 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 09:09 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 09:47 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:04 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 10:17 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:29 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 10:42 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 10:38 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:58 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 11:05 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 11:36 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 11:44 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 12:32 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 12:36 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 12:44 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 12:48 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 13:20 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 13:31 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 14:36 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 15:04 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 15:23 -0700
Don't expect a good response. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 15:12 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 15:53 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:46 -0700
innerText Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 16:59 -0700
Re: innerText Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:39 -0700
Re: innerText Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 18:06 -0700
Re: innerText Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-23 01:18 +0000
Re: innerText Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:21 -0700
Re: innerText Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 18:32 -0700
Re: innerText Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 18:32 -0700
Re: innerText Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:49 -0700
Re: innerText RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:09 +0000
Why ? What's the goal ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-22 18:46 -0700
Re: Why ? What's the goal ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 19:10 -0700
Re: Why ? What's the goal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 19:30 -0700
Re: Why ? What's the goal ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 19:28 -0700
Re: Why ? What's the goal ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 20:37 -0700
Re: innerText Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:46 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 18:05 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 19:13 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 19:31 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:45 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 08:43 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:12 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 09:24 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:49 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 12:34 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:56 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:34 -0700
Tables Within Tables. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-23 13:56 -0700
Re: Tables Within Tables. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 14:10 -0700
If not a .CSV file, then what ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-23 14:47 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:19 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 17:59 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:14 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 19:42 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 12:23 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-24 14:42 -0500
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 13:13 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 09:21 -0500
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:13 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:22 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 12:08 -0500
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:20 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:28 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:38 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:56 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:41 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 21:08 -0700
Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-25 11:22 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:50 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 11:55 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 12:45 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:12 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 14:42 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 15:23 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:39 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 16:12 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 18:25 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:56 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-26 02:24 +0000
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 19:35 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 19:46 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 19:51 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 19:05 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:26 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 16:13 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 18:42 -0700
Michael's PlanetKilling carbon dioxide. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-26 02:27 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:32 -0700
"trolling and flooding" your way to freedom, divorce. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-26 02:12 -0700
Re: "trolling and flooding" your way to freedom, divorce. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 02:36 -0700
Re: Apple products are a fashion statement; Linux users are "ugly". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 12:01 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:13 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:14 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:17 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:31 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 09:43 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:53 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:18 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:54 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:40 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:11 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:39 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 12:09 -0500
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:16 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:24 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 10:43 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:50 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 14:15 -0700
Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-26 02:44 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 09:53 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 10:15 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 11:48 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 11:58 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 12:13 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 12:41 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 20:21 +0000
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 14:05 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 14:46 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 16:04 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 16:27 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 16:31 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 16:40 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 16:58 -0700
Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 17:14 -0700
Re: Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 12:27 -0700
Re: Tech question for Carroll Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 12:50 -0700
Re: Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 08:52 -0700
Re: Tech question for Carroll Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 09:18 -0700
Re: Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 20:41 +0000
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 16:53 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 17:21 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 17:45 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 22:59 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-26 17:35 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 21:26 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 09:28 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 09:42 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 10:33 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 11:31 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 10:42 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 11:04 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 11:19 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 11:43 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 11:59 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 12:51 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 12:56 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:06 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:36 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 14:11 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 14:56 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 15:59 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 16:05 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 16:27 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 17:01 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 20:12 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 21:22 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:41 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:12 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-28 19:06 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:48 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 11:55 -0700
Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 14:41 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 12:12 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:13 -0700
Tech question for Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-29 14:40 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 13:36 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 19:28 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 13:02 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-27 13:27 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:48 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 13:37 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 12:18 -0700
Re: Mike is lying to himself because it's _useful_ to do so. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 15:56 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 14:23 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 14:48 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:30 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 17:43 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:03 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 10:21 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 13:09 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 14:00 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 16:51 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 20:17 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 20:53 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 21:30 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 21:47 -0700
The head shrinker. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-24 22:13 -0700
Re: The head shrinker. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:18 -0700
Re: The head shrinker. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
Re: The head shrinker. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:24 -0700
"kinder" is German for "children". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-24 22:39 -0700
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 23:26 -0700
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:58 -0700
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". quatloo <quatloo@tribble.net> - 2018-05-25 09:15 -0500
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 07:35 -0700
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 08:55 -0700
Re: "kinder" is German for "children". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:24 -0700
Re: The head shrinker. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:19 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:04 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:10 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-24 22:16 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 22:25 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:19 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 20:25 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 21:06 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 23:26 -0700
Re: If not a .CSV file, then what ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 02:35 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:16 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 15:30 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 15:44 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 16:32 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 18:53 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 19:28 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 19:42 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 19:57 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:01 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 20:10 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:13 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 20:37 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 20:44 -0700
Ping Carroll: Why all the trolling? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-25 19:03 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 07:15 -0500
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:16 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:19 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 07:48 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-23 07:45 -0400
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 04:58 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 12:48 +0000
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 06:17 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:19 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:35 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 07:53 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 08:17 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 08:52 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:22 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 09:34 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:01 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 12:36 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:28 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:39 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:09 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:38 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 12:37 -0700
Re: Don't expect a good response. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:01 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 14:52 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-22 10:37 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 17:13 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-18 17:14 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 10:21 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-19 10:25 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 18:24 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 18:25 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 08:48 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 09:12 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 09:09 -0700
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 09:16 -0700
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 09:37 -0700
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Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 07:14 -0700
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Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:45 -0700
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Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 08:15 -0700
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Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:48 -0700
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Re: Observations Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 14:11 -0700
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Re: Observations Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 16:06 -0400
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 13:23 -0700
Re: Observations owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-12 20:52 +0000
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Re: Observations Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-12 23:52 +0200
Re: Observations Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-12 21:04 -0400
Re: Observations Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-12 18:38 -0700
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Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-14 07:05 -0500
Re: Observations Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-14 23:48 +0200
Re: Observations chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-15 09:27 -0500
Re: Observations Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 07:43 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 09:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <aa59539a-6ada-407a-b2f3-11ca1cc8ef69@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451591 |
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 10:26:39 AM UTC-6, owl wrote: > The one failing to understand here is you. And you appear to have > changed your opinion of these things recently. Previously you were > arguing that Apple's definition of a "table" was the be-all-and-end-all > of table definitions. As for what constitutes a "word processor," > all of the so-called word processors are venturing far out into > DTP territory. They need to stick to "processing words" and get > that right first -- polishing and working out bugs in things like > pagination, sections, etc. -- before worrying about "rotating images." Here, I'd argue that Snit has a point when he talks about the target audience... which seriously brings up your man page for Numbers that he poo poo'd. Number is for lightweight use as a spreadsheet as it offers tradeoffs like ease of use towards presentation.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 10:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm5s0jFokpoU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451593 |
On 5/17/18 9:42 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 10:26:39 AM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> The one failing to understand here is you. And you appear to have >> changed your opinion of these things recently. Previously you were >> arguing that Apple's definition of a "table" was the be-all-and-end-all >> of table definitions. As for what constitutes a "word processor," >> all of the so-called word processors are venturing far out into >> DTP territory. They need to stick to "processing words" and get >> that right first -- polishing and working out bugs in things like >> pagination, sections, etc. -- before worrying about "rotating images." > > Here, I'd argue that Snit has a point when he talks about the target > audience... which seriously brings up your man page for Numbers > that he poo poo'd. It was poorly written humor... but whatever. No accounting for taste. > Number is for lightweight use as a spreadsheet > as it offers tradeoffs like ease of use towards presentation. Sure... I could go with that (though I suspect you and / or Owl will take this into some pedantic side issue). -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 09:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm5qjoFobtuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451591 |
On 5/17/18 9:26 AM, owl wrote: ... >>> And that "canvas" has nothing to do with spreadsheets, so it's just >>> fluff. The "spreadsheet" functionality of Numbers is contained within >>> what its "tables" (which are just sheets). >> >> The canvas is not a spreadsheet, but that does not make it "fluff". It >> means it is a very different type of program... one you do not really >> get. I am OK with that. And I also understand at least some of the >> strengths and weaknesses of the two paradigms. Excel is closer to sc in >> terms of types of programs, and I use both Numbers and Excel. I used to >> use vc, which (I think) sc is based on. Been a LONG time since I have >> done so, though. >> >> And the tables in Numbers are not "sheets". Sheets are tabs within a >> single file (though to call them "tabs" would be confusing given how you >> can have different files in tabs in the same window). A sheet can have >> zero, one, or more tables (though generally has at least one). > > From what I understand, when you convert a Numbers file with multiple > tables to Excel, all the Numbers "tables" become separate Excel sheets. > (As they should, because they are, well, sheets :). Just did a quick test. From what I can see: On the summary sheet in Excel, you get the following text: ----- This document was exported from Numbers. Each table was converted to an Excel worksheet. All other objects on each Numbers sheet were placed on separate worksheets. Please be aware that formula calculations may differ in Excel. ----- This is not quite accurate: all non-table items were placed on one Excel sheet (multiple text boxes, an image, a shape, and a video). Where Excel *could* combine things it did (or where Numbers could, really, on its export). Another option the programmers could have done was to try to place all the tables on one large sheet. This would have maintained the Numbers sheets. Right now the only way they are maintained is on a "Summary" sheet it is noted where they came from. I did also test some templates. Was actually surprised at how well some worked. A Monthly budget with some text boxes, a couple of charts and a single table on one sheet, and on another sheet a list of transactions on a table but also some text boxes to explain, all transferred over reasonably well (better than I would have expected). On the other hand, a GPA calculator was pretty badly mangled. Anything with more than one table per sheet does not transfer over well -- the concepts of the programs are just too different. I can make a video to show you this if you want. >> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how >> different the programs are. > > Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. Yes, it is a very different animal than other spreadsheet programs. >>>> So owl is right to note how different the two program are... which was >>>> my point. :) >>> >>> I note how Numbers is different from traditional spreadsheet apps with >>> redefinition of a common term. >> >> The concept of the program is different. It uses the terms in ways which >> make sense but which are not the same as Numbers and sc (which is not to >> say they are wrong, either). >> >> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >> word processor are not the same... even though they have overlaps and >> might use the same terms in somewhat different ways. > > The one failing to understand here is you. And you appear to have > changed your opinion of these things recently. Previously you were > arguing that Apple's definition of a "table" was the be-all-and-end-all > of table definitions. Nope. Though I did, some time ago when we first discussed this, confuse the worksheet as a table (which is a common way of referring to it). But I was wrong and admitted it. So be it. I have no issue with having made mistakes. > As for what constitutes a "word processor," > all of the so-called word processors are venturing far out into > DTP territory. Sure. > They need to stick to "processing words" and get > that right first -- polishing and working out bugs in things like > pagination, sections, etc. -- before worrying about "rotating images." No reason they should not do both. And I am happy to see that LibreOffice 6, which came out recently, has added the ability to rotate images without converting them to another type. You can now MUCH more easily have images rotate AND have text flow around them. Still does not show the moving of images in real time, nor (from a quick test) does it allow the moving of an image partially off the page, but it is certainly a step in the right direction. But, sure, the LO team should not neglect pagination, selections, etc. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 10:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b9ab31d7-645b-4e13-8f93-672c724d48ea@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451597 |
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 10:57:32 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 5/17/18 9:26 AM, owl wrote: > ... > >>> And that "canvas" has nothing to do with spreadsheets, so it's just > >>> fluff. The "spreadsheet" functionality of Numbers is contained within > >>> what its "tables" (which are just sheets). > >> > >> The canvas is not a spreadsheet, but that does not make it "fluff". It > >> means it is a very different type of program... one you do not really > >> get. I am OK with that. And I also understand at least some of the > >> strengths and weaknesses of the two paradigms. Excel is closer to sc in > >> terms of types of programs, and I use both Numbers and Excel. I used to > >> use vc, which (I think) sc is based on. Been a LONG time since I have > >> done so, though. > >> > >> And the tables in Numbers are not "sheets". Sheets are tabs within a > >> single file (though to call them "tabs" would be confusing given how you > >> can have different files in tabs in the same window). A sheet can have > >> zero, one, or more tables (though generally has at least one). > > > > From what I understand, when you convert a Numbers file with multiple > > tables to Excel, all the Numbers "tables" become separate Excel sheets. > > (As they should, because they are, well, sheets :). > > Just did a quick test. From what I can see: > > On the summary sheet in Excel, you get the following text: > ----- > This document was exported from Numbers. Each table was converted to an > Excel worksheet. All other objects on each Numbers sheet were placed on > separate worksheets. Please be aware that formula calculations may > differ in Excel. > ----- > > This is not quite accurate: all non-table items were placed on one Excel > sheet (multiple text boxes, an image, a shape, and a video). Maybe it's a generic message and you're just not seeing other conditions for which is the text as written may better apply. > Where Excel *could* combine things it did (or where Numbers could, > really, on its export). Another option the programmers could have done > was to try to place all the tables on one large sheet. This would have > maintained the Numbers sheets. Right now the only way they are > maintained is on a "Summary" sheet it is noted where they came from. > > I did also test some templates. Was actually surprised at how well some > worked. A Monthly budget with some text boxes, a couple of charts and a > single table on one sheet, and on another sheet a list of transactions > on a table but also some text boxes to explain, all transferred over > reasonably well (better than I would have expected). > > On the other hand, a GPA calculator was pretty badly mangled. Anything > with more than one table per sheet does not transfer over well -- the > concepts of the programs are just too different. > > I can make a video to show you this if you want. > > >> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how > >> different the programs are. > > > > Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. > > Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, which is the same concept used here: <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> > Yes, it is a very different animal than other spreadsheet programs. It's clearly more geared towards ease of presentation than it is being an 'industry standard level' spreadsheet app. For trolling... uh, comparative purposes, it's like you're holding a freshly plated 'gold' ring with a freshly cleaned cubic zirconia in it and owl is holding his grandmother's 18K gold diamond wedding ring in need of cleaning. He has to do some work to get it shiny but once it does, all serious comparisons end ;)
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 10:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm5sn9Foqu9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451604 |
On 5/17/18 10:26 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 10:57:32 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 5/17/18 9:26 AM, owl wrote: >> ... >>>>> And that "canvas" has nothing to do with spreadsheets, so it's just >>>>> fluff. The "spreadsheet" functionality of Numbers is contained within >>>>> what its "tables" (which are just sheets). >>>> >>>> The canvas is not a spreadsheet, but that does not make it "fluff". It >>>> means it is a very different type of program... one you do not really >>>> get. I am OK with that. And I also understand at least some of the >>>> strengths and weaknesses of the two paradigms. Excel is closer to sc in >>>> terms of types of programs, and I use both Numbers and Excel. I used to >>>> use vc, which (I think) sc is based on. Been a LONG time since I have >>>> done so, though. >>>> >>>> And the tables in Numbers are not "sheets". Sheets are tabs within a >>>> single file (though to call them "tabs" would be confusing given how you >>>> can have different files in tabs in the same window). A sheet can have >>>> zero, one, or more tables (though generally has at least one). >>> >>> From what I understand, when you convert a Numbers file with multiple >>> tables to Excel, all the Numbers "tables" become separate Excel sheets. >>> (As they should, because they are, well, sheets :). >> >> Just did a quick test. From what I can see: >> >> On the summary sheet in Excel, you get the following text: >> ----- >> This document was exported from Numbers. Each table was converted to an >> Excel worksheet. All other objects on each Numbers sheet were placed on >> separate worksheets. Please be aware that formula calculations may >> differ in Excel. >> ----- >> >> This is not quite accurate: all non-table items were placed on one Excel >> sheet (multiple text boxes, an image, a shape, and a video). > > Maybe it's a generic message and you're just not seeing other > conditions for which is the text as written may better apply. Could be... but it is simply not correct to say that "all other objects were placed on separate worksheets" when multiple objects were placed on the same Excel worksheet. Each Numbers table, though, was placed on its own Excel worksheet. >> Where Excel *could* combine things it did (or where Numbers could, >> really, on its export). Another option the programmers could have done >> was to try to place all the tables on one large sheet. This would have >> maintained the Numbers sheets. Right now the only way they are >> maintained is on a "Summary" sheet it is noted where they came from. >> >> I did also test some templates. Was actually surprised at how well some >> worked. A Monthly budget with some text boxes, a couple of charts and a >> single table on one sheet, and on another sheet a list of transactions >> on a table but also some text boxes to explain, all transferred over >> reasonably well (better than I would have expected). >> >> On the other hand, a GPA calculator was pretty badly mangled. Anything >> with more than one table per sheet does not transfer over well -- the >> concepts of the programs are just too different. >> >> I can make a video to show you this if you want. >> >>>> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how >>>> different the programs are. >>> >>> Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. >> >> Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. > > ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element > produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, > which is the same concept used here: > > <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> Not in dispute. Maybe you are thinking it is? >> Yes, it is a very different animal than other spreadsheet programs. > > It's clearly more geared towards ease of presentation than it is being an > 'industry standard level' spreadsheet app. Sure! As I have said repeatedly, Numbers is NOT for heavy duty number crunching or the like. > For trolling... uh, comparative > purposes, it's like you're holding a freshly plated 'gold' ring with a freshly > cleaned cubic zirconia in it and owl is holding his grandmother's 18K gold > diamond wedding ring in need of cleaning. He has to do some work to get > it shiny but once it does, all serious comparisons end ;) They each have different pros and cons and are made for very different purposes. They are very different types of spreadsheet applications which have *some* overlap in use. But, sure, anyone saying otherwise is either ignorant of the applications or is trolling. I am willing to grant that owl merely was ignorant when he said they were the same and was not purposely trolling. You, on the other hand, well, you have shown you get the differences... which leaves only one option. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 11:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11d53a09-949d-4405-9535-241dfb3b7b65@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451605 |
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: (snip) > >>>> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how > >>>> different the programs are. > >>> > >>> Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. > >> > >> Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. > > > > ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element > > produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, > > which is the same concept used here: > > > > <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> > > Not in dispute. Maybe you are thinking it is? No, I'm wondering how a Numbers table is "more" like HTML than HTML is like Excel.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm6982Frk00U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451611 |
On 5/17/18 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > > (snip) > >>>>>> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how >>>>>> different the programs are. >>>>> >>>>> Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. >>>> >>>> Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. >>> >>> ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element >>> produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, >>> which is the same concept used here: >>> >>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> >> >> Not in dispute. Maybe you are thinking it is? > > No, I'm wondering how a Numbers table is "more" like HTML than HTML is like Excel. > Sure... happy to help. With HTML you can have multiple tables not on anything like the grid you have in an sc or Excel spreadsheet. This does not imply, of course, that there are not MANY differences. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ee8be383-ae5e-4536-b86e-22aab567fec5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451621 |
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 3:07:17 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 5/17/18 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > >>>>>> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how > >>>>>> different the programs are. > >>>>> > >>>>> Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. > >>>> > >>>> Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. > >>> > >>> ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element > >>> produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, > >>> which is the same concept used here: > >>> > >>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> > >> > >> Not in dispute. Maybe you are thinking it is? > > > > No, I'm wondering how a Numbers table is "more" like HTML than HTML is like Excel. > > > Sure... happy to help. With HTML you can have multiple tables not on > anything like the grid you have in an sc or Excel spreadsheet. So there is no grid in a Numbers "table" and it's in that respect that it's "more" like HTML?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm6bg0Fs3fnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451626 |
On 5/17/18 2:14 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 3:07:17 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 5/17/18 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:33:33 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>> >>> (snip) >>> >>>>>>>> This is different terminology than you use, of course, because of how >>>>>>>> different the programs are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Different terminology than I, and the rest of the non-Apple world, use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Numbers uses the term "table" more like HTML does. >>>>> >>>>> ??? Unless you drastically alter it with CSS, the HTML table element >>>>> produces a visualization that organizes data into rows and columns, >>>>> which is the same concept used here: >>>>> >>>>> <https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-tables-7ab0bb7d-3a9e-4b56-a3c9-6c94334e492c> >>>> >>>> Not in dispute. Maybe you are thinking it is? >>> >>> No, I'm wondering how a Numbers table is "more" like HTML than HTML is like Excel. >>> >> Sure... happy to help. With HTML you can have multiple tables not on >> anything like the grid you have in an sc or Excel spreadsheet. > > So there is no grid in a Numbers "table" and it's in that respect that it's > "more" like HTML? > What makes you think there is no grid in a Numbers table? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <frcrfdlcl88bgtuup82hd5vt8ceulmd8on@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #451591 |
> some thing wrote: >> >> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >> word processor are not the same... LOL What a liar. -- 'It is amazing... Roy asks me a question. I answer. chrisv whines that I he needs to be "educated".' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 10:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm5s2hFokpoU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451598 |
On 5/17/18 9:57 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> some thing wrote:
>>>
>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a
>>> word processor are not the same...
>
> LOL What a liar.
>
He argued that vi is a word processor. It is not.
Then again, look at what YOU said:
chrisv:
-----
That thing won't even acknowledge that virtual desktops are a very
nice feature. It claims that they require "too much configuration".
You see, they require that you decide how to organize things on the
desktops.
In other words, in order to enjoy the benefit of a tool, you must
actually use the tool.
Sheesh.
-----
Now THAT was a lie! One you refuse to talk about now. :)
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 13:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8pfrfdpenn258fttqn0q1gij35rkisd42e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #451598 |
On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: >>> >>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>> word processor are not the same... > >LOL What a liar. LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too ridiculous on its own.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm5tr9Fp326U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451609 |
On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled:
>>>>
>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a
>>>> word processor are not the same...
>>
>> LOL What a liar.
>
> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too
> ridiculous on its own.
>
Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right.
Owl:
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My main word processor is vim.
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Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :)
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 18:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <szb080g3.guo4@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #451610 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote: >> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: >>>>> >>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>>>> word processor are not the same... >>> >>> LOL What a liar. >> >> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too >> ridiculous on its own. >> > Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right. > > Owl: > ----- > My main word processor is vim. > ----- > > Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :) > I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of "word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <aflrfdlkssu4ej2ql9a5ar95tp9b0cmjpm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #451613 |
owl wrote: > some thing wrote: >> Doomsdrzej wrote: >>> chrisv wrote: >>>>> some thing wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>>>>> word processor are not the same... >>>> >>>> LOL What a liar. >>> >>> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too >>> ridiculous on its own. >> >> Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right. >> >> Owl: >> ----- >> My main word processor is vim. >> ----- >> >> Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :) > >I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of >"word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP. The "Snit" thing's claim of how you "failed to understand" is still a lie, of course. -- "if Freedom is so important to people in COLA, why not move to a more Free system?" - some thing, attacking the GPL and its supporters
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm69jpFrn38U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451615 |
On 5/17/18 12:26 PM, chrisv wrote:
> owl wrote:
>
>> some thing wrote:
>>> Doomsdrzej wrote:
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>> some thing wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a
>>>>>>> word processor are not the same...
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL What a liar.
>>>>
>>>> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too
>>>> ridiculous on its own.
>>>
>>> Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right.
>>>
>>> Owl:
>>> -----
>>> My main word processor is vim.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :)
>>
>> I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of
>> "word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP.
>
> The "Snit" thing's claim of how you "failed to understand" is still a
> lie, of course.
Nope. But speaking of lies:
chrisv:
-----
That thing won't even acknowledge that virtual desktops are a very
nice feature. It claims that they require "too much configuration".
You see, they require that you decide how to organize things on the
desktops.
In other words, in order to enjoy the benefit of a tool, you must
actually use the tool.
Sheesh.
-----
You STILL refuse to talk about that. :)
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 16:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <s7qrfd9vcljntpo8562roc5qssm987u5bq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #451613 |
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:33:39 +0000 (UTC), owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>>>>> word processor are not the same... >>>> >>>> LOL What a liar. >>> >>> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too >>> ridiculous on its own. >>> >> Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right. >> >> Owl: >> ----- >> My main word processor is vim. >> ----- >> >> Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :) >> > >I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of >"word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP. His quote doesn't have you saying that vim is a word processor; it says that you use vim AS a word processor. Apparently, the guy is too stupid to see the difference. Even Notepad can be considered a word processor for someone but it doesn't mean that he thinks it is a word processor. It simply highlights his basic needs. However, you've shown that you can do pretty much whatever you would need to do in a word processor with vim so I can understand why it is your selection as such. You like to have total control over your documents and all the power to you for that.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm6bemFs3fnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451620 |
On 5/17/18 1:43 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:33:39 +0000 (UTC), owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> > wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote: >>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>>>>>> word processor are not the same... >>>>> >>>>> LOL What a liar. >>>> >>>> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too >>>> ridiculous on its own. >>>> >>> Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right. >>> >>> Owl: >>> ----- >>> My main word processor is vim. >>> ----- >>> >>> Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :) >>> >> >> I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of >> "word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP. > > His quote doesn't have you saying that vim is a word processor; it > says that you use vim AS a word processor. Apparently, the guy is too > stupid to see the difference. Owl had more extreme quotes... with a quick search I did not find them. It was when we were having a discussion about Latex. But we can clear this up now: Owl, do you think vim is a word processor? I bet we get no direct answer. > Even Notepad can be considered a word processor for someone but it > doesn't mean that he thinks it is a word processor. It simply > highlights his basic needs. However, you've shown that you can do > pretty much whatever you would need to do in a word processor with vim > so I can understand why it is your selection as such. You like to have > total control over your documents and all the power to you for that. He has not shown you can do with vim what people do with word processors. Not even close. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fm69bqFrk00U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #451613 |
On 5/17/18 11:33 AM, owl wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a >>>>>> word processor are not the same... >>>> >>>> LOL What a liar. >>> >>> LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too >>> ridiculous on its own. >>> >> Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. He insisted he was right. >> >> Owl: >> ----- >> My main word processor is vim. >> ----- >> >> Interesting how his claims are so absurd nobody in COLA can believe them. :) > > I made a video a while back showing vim macros doing all kinds of > "word-processing" tasks. So yeah. It's my main WP. You might use it to do things most do with a word processor. I can respect that. Heck, when I used to use File Maker Pro more I did all sorts of things with it others would use "real" programming environments or "real" databases for. File Maker Pro is an amazing and flexible tool, but I used it in ways I am sure the developers did not imagine... and which would make any "real" programmer or scripter cringe. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 14:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f78ebc81-c61b-475c-a352-1d7d152fc993@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #451610 |
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 11:52:45 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 5/17/18 10:44 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:57:58 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> > > wrote: > > > >>> Michael Glasser, diseased cockroach of Prescott, Arizona babbled: > >>>> > >>>> This is similar to how you failed to understand how a text editor and a > >>>> word processor are not the same... > >> > >> LOL What a liar. > > > > LOL, yeah I know. I'd have commented but the statement was too > > ridiculous on its own. > > > Owl claimed vim was a word processor. It is not. According to which definition? "A word processor, or word processing program, does exactly what the name implies. It processes words. It also processes paragraphs, pages, and entire papers. Some examples of word processing programs include Microsoft Word, WordPerfect (Windows only), AppleWorks (Mac only), and OpenOffice.org. The first word processors were basically computerized typewriters, which did little more than place characters on a screen, which could then be printed by a printer." <https://techterms.com/definition/wordprocessor> That last paragraph throws an obvious wrench into your argument. > He insisted he was right. Given the above definition I fail to see how he was "wrong"
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