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Serbia is again dictatorship

Started byMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
First post2019-01-08 03:48 +0000
Last post2019-01-11 14:32 -0800
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  Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-08 03:48 +0000
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-07 20:23 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 01:05 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-08 11:11 +0000
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:57 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-08 19:17 -0500
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-09 01:28 +0000
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 19:00 -0700
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:20 -0800
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 18:37 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 18:40 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:04 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 07:28 -0600
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:29 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 09:39 -0600
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:54 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 10:11 -0600
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:30 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 11:14 -0600
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:21 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:10 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 12:35 -0600
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 11:44 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:16 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:47 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 15:25 -0600
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 13:31 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 17:58 -0500
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:22 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-09 23:22 +0000
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:34 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 18:47 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 16:32 -0500
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-09 23:19 +0000
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 20:35 -0500
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 18:00 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 08:56 -0700
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:09 -0700
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:23 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:03 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:39 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 07:36 -0600
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-10 09:14 -0500
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 11:56 -0500
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:42 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 14:18 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:35 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:52 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:09 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:26 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:32 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 18:53 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:15 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:18 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 19:45 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 20:03 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 20:38 -0800
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 11:53 -0500
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 09:10 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-10 13:03 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:02 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:07 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:27 -0700
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 06:47 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:49 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:29 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:10 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:33 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 08:07 -0600
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 06:31 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:26 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 08:47 -0700
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:51 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-11 12:29 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 14:51 -0600
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 13:14 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-11 13:56 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:17 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 22:32 +0000
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:33 -0800
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 18:03 -0500
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 15:10 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 20:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 18:39 -0700
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:40 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 15:03 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:51 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 10:57 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:08 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 18:21 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 16:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 00:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 07:24 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 06:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:10 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:26 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:44 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:45 -0600
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:16 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 22:20 +0000
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:23 -0600
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 05:47 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:43 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:16 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:35 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:46 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:57 -0700
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 10:35 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 12:49 -0600
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:23 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 12:22 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 12:41 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:56 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 14:30 -0800
                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:41 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:03 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:11 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:51 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 12:02 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 12:53 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:00 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:24 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 14:10 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:36 -0800
                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 04:11 -0800
                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:30 -0800
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 06:47 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:04 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 08:14 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:45 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 09:09 -0800
                                                                                      My vice is better than yours. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 10:05 -0800
                                                                                        Re: My vice is better than yours. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 11:08 -0700
                                                                                        Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 10:36 -0800
                                                                                          Give me your tired, your poor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 12:18 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:19 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:34 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:46 -0800
                                                                                              Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 20:56 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 21:24 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-16 09:41 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:07 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-17 12:02 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 06:57 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 18:28 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:37 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 07:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:20 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:03 -0700
                                                                                        My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 15:26 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 15:41 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 16:32 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 16:59 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:01 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 18:50 -0800
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 07:05 -0600
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:05 -0800
                                                                                                Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 08:40 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                  Who speaks for the poor ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 08:52 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-17 11:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Who speaks for the poor ? silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-17 12:10 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Sir Gerg teh Yechh Master ""Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>" 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT!  ⏰🔫🔫🔫❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ Who speaks for the poor ? ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄  Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-17 13:00 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Sir Gerg teh Yechh Master ""Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>" 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ Who speaks for the poor ? ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 12:24 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 09:34 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Who speaks for the poor ? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                      I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 14:02 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:30 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 18:56 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-19 04:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 04:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 08:08 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 20:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:11 -0800
                                                                                                Democrats are rich scofflaws. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 08:10 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Democrats are rich scofflaws. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-17 11:18 -0600
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-16 12:11 -0700
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:17 -0800
                                                                                          Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 22:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 22:42 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-16 03:53 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 04:11 -0800
                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-16 02:13 +0000
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:33 -0800
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 02:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-16 18:43 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:51 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 16:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 09:37 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 11:22 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 12:12 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:47 -0800
                                                                                              A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 14:59 -0800
                                                                                                Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 08:59 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 10:09 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 10:39 -0800
                                                                                                  Poverty is a vice, wealth is a vice, everything is vice. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-18 09:38 -0800
                                                                                                Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-20 18:19 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 18:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 07:14 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 09:51 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 08:06 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 10:49 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 09:04 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 19:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:32 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 13:51 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 08:04 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 19:08 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:50 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 12:58 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 03:16 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 20:04 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:00 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 09:39 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 07:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-26 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 08:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 08:48 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-26 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 12:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-26 16:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:59 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-26 12:13 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:05 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:52 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 10:03 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 11:00 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 17:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-21 22:01 +0000
                                                                                                          "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-21 15:23 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-21 17:05 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 03:36 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 20:03 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-22 08:29 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 01:00 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:30 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-22 08:45 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 06:11 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-21 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:19 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 05:41 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 13:48 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:15 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:35 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:37 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 16:35 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:38 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 10:04 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-23 12:16 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 11:29 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:36 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 21:42 +0000
                                                                                            No one wants to be banished to the woods. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 14:05 -0800
                                                                                              Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 04:24 +0000
                                                                                                Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 20:50 -0800
                                                                                                Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-18 09:16 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:25 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 15:41 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-18 05:05 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 05:26 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-18 13:50 +0000
                                                                      Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 22:53 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:00 -0800
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:04 -0700
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 06:57 -0600
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 05:04 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:54 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 09:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:22 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 06:45 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:04 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 07:57 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:05 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:29 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:37 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 08:52 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 16:00 +0100
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:04 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:12 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 22:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:04 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:10 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 16:47 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:15 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:56 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:14 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 09:35 -0600
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:23 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:04 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:06 -0600
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:11 -0500
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:44 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-16 01:11 +0000
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 17:30 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 01:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-16 05:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 21:40 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:07 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:49 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:07 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:41 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:19 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:37 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:44 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:03 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 10:19 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:43 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:41 +0000
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:24 -0500
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:24 -0600
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:58 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:33 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 00:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:16 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:23 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 05:32 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:14 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:11 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:22 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:58 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:18 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:45 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:33 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:35 -0800
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 09:37 -0600
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:53 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:13 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:07 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:30 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:19 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 16:42 -0500
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 15:36 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 19:23 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:45 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 20:08 -0700
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 20:41 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:12 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 00:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 10:33 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:08 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:29 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 10:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:06 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:01 -0700
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 06:50 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-16 09:16 -0500
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 06:48 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:37 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:46 -0500
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 12:58 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:44 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:29 -0700
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 15:50 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 06:40 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 12:45 -0700
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 12:55 -0800
                                            To properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 06:57 -0800
                                              Re: To properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:51 -0500
                                        See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 06:23 -0800
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:45 -0800
                                            Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                              Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 10:16 -0800
                                              Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:37 +0000
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 11:01 -0500
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:38 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:37 -0700
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:44 -0700
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:09 -0500
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 11:23 -0600
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:46 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:16 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:26 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:02 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:47 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-09 16:02 +0000
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:24 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 10:57 -0600
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:46 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:51 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:07 -0500
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:54 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:00 -0700
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:07 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:49 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:07 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:51 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:02 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:04 -0500
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:55 -0700
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-10 09:55 -0500
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:20 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-10 16:29 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 16:34 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:33 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 15:40 +0000
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 09:48 -0600
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 16:01 +0000
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 10:15 -0600
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 17:49 +0000
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 17:12 -0700
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 16:22 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 16:38 -0800
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 11:12 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:53 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:32 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 02:33 +0000
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 18:57 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-13 08:51 -0500
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 16:06 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:44 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:27 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 13:04 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 13:38 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 16:51 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 16:47 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:41 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-13 12:47 -0500
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 10:32 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 18:57 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:40 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-13 19:01 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:45 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 14:56 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 00:53 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:25 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 08:17 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 12:14 -0500
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 10:07 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 13:03 -0700
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0500
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 12:28 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 16:24 -0500
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:32 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:48 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 18:24 -0500
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 00:42 +0000
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 17:09 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 17:20 -0700
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 12:00 -0500
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 11:32 -0600
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 13:32 -0500
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:40 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 14:21 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:35 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:51 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 15:23 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:34 -0500
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 03:20 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 08:26 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 07:46 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:22 -0700
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:36 -0800
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-09 20:26 +0000
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-09 21:11 +0000
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-09 21:14 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 16:31 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:03 -0700
    Fake Snit News Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:32 -0800

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#484799 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 15:40 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<489e36f8-5cdb-47fe-bee7-4c913cc1f07b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484795
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > Hugh replied:
> > > > > Google " Hosehold Income and Political Affiliation ".
> > > > 
> > > > First hit:
> > > > people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/
> > > 
> > > " People in Democratic-leaning states 
> > >   make more money than those in Republican-leaning states ".
> > > 
> > >     Cleveland.COM/datacentral/index.ssf/2015/09/blue_states_red_states_rich_st.html
> > > 
> > > > > We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
> > > > > when it comes to marriage, equal  OUTCOMES  are enforced,
> > > > > as if no man is better than the next.
> > > > 
> > > > Good observation, even though it doesn't mean that it is right.
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > > the rich currently pay lower net tax rates
> > > 
> > > Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> > 
> > Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
> 
> Got a better alternative? 

No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than 
the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. If the
richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can 
see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator 
of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".

> > (IOW, when considering who paid the lion's share of income taxes)?
> 
> That metric isn't normalized.  

I realize, but the number is so big it, in all likelihood, blows 
any argument out of the water. I already know you'll have 
some 'stats' that will 'prove' otherwise that I'll disagree with ;)

> > Somewhere I read that the overall percentage paid by the top 1% 
> > has actually gone up ~5% since 2017...
> 
> Gosh, that would be an interesting article to read, since no one
> has gotten their taxes filed yet for 2018 to be able to actually
> have a "since 2017" data point...and as a group, it won't even
> be due (let alone reported on) until April 15, 2019...

That should have been 'will pay' and I found the article:

"Roughly one million households in the top 1% will pay for 43% of
income tax, up from 38% in 2017."

<https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-americans-will-pay-87-of-income-tax-1523007001>

> > it's now somewhere near 
> > 44% or some such. I can't find the article now but I seem to recall
> > it claiming that even the top 5% rose, despite the tax cuts hh keeps
> > harping on.
> 
> Try normalizing the claim versus what percentage of the total income 
> they made and get back to us.  

Rich people make investments, news at 11!

I didn't write it, I said I read it... months ago, actually, and  I'm 
surprised I even recalled the figure as closely as I did. The 
article also noted:

"To be sure, this analysis doesn’t include the flow-through effects 
of corporate-tax cuts, which benefit higher earners more than lower 
earners, or the doubling of the estate-tax exemption to about $11.2 
million per person. 

With the capper: "Neither levy is part of the individual income tax."

My take is we could use AOC's 70% and it *still* wouldn't make much 
of  a dent before those "rich" left the U.S. As we all know, things work
*so* much better when no one invests in anything ;)

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#484810 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-17 18:56 -0700
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<gacq37Fc3pgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#484799
On 1/17/19 4:40 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> Hugh replied:
>>>>>> Google " Hosehold Income and Political Affiliation ".
>>>>>
>>>>> First hit:
>>>>> people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/
>>>>
>>>> " People in Democratic-leaning states
>>>>    make more money than those in Republican-leaning states ".
>>>>
>>>>      Cleveland.COM/datacentral/index.ssf/2015/09/blue_states_red_states_rich_st.html
>>>>
>>>>>> We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
>>>>>> when it comes to marriage, equal  OUTCOMES  are enforced,
>>>>>> as if no man is better than the next.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good observation, even though it doesn't mean that it is right.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>> the rich currently pay lower net tax rates
>>>>
>>>> Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
>>>
>>> Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
>>
>> Got a better alternative?
> 
> No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
> which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than
> the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. If the
> richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can
> see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator
> of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".
> 
>>> (IOW, when considering who paid the lion's share of income taxes)?
>>
>> That metric isn't normalized.
> 
> I realize, but the number is so big it, in all likelihood, blows
> any argument out of the water. I already know you'll have
> some 'stats' that will 'prove' otherwise that I'll disagree with ;)
> 
>>> Somewhere I read that the overall percentage paid by the top 1%
>>> has actually gone up ~5% since 2017...
>>
>> Gosh, that would be an interesting article to read, since no one
>> has gotten their taxes filed yet for 2018 to be able to actually
>> have a "since 2017" data point...and as a group, it won't even
>> be due (let alone reported on) until April 15, 2019...
> 
> That should have been 'will pay' and I found the article:
> 
> "Roughly one million households in the top 1% will pay for 43% of
> income tax, up from 38% in 2017."
> 
> <https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-americans-will-pay-87-of-income-tax-1523007001>
> 
>>> it's now somewhere near
>>> 44% or some such. I can't find the article now but I seem to recall
>>> it claiming that even the top 5% rose, despite the tax cuts hh keeps
>>> harping on.
>>
>> Try normalizing the claim versus what percentage of the total income
>> they made and get back to us.
> 
> Rich people make investments, news at 11!
> 
> I didn't write it, I said I read it... months ago, actually, and  I'm
> surprised I even recalled the figure as closely as I did. The
> article also noted:
> 
> "To be sure, this analysis doesn’t include the flow-through effects
> of corporate-tax cuts, which benefit higher earners more than lower
> earners, or the doubling of the estate-tax exemption to about $11.2
> million per person.
> 
> With the capper: "Neither levy is part of the individual income tax."
> 
> My take is we could use AOC's 70% and it *still* wouldn't make much
> of  a dent before those "rich" left the U.S. As we all know, things work
> *so* much better when no one invests in anything ;)
> 

The richest 1% pay a LOWER percentage of their income as tax and that is 
including JUST what they declare. Most Americans want them to (and they 
think they do) pay a higher percentage. And the economy does better for 
everyone when they do.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#485000 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-19 04:27 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<a043fd2d-d652-424b-bcf8-19bef19581d8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484799
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:40:31 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> > > 
> > > Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
> > 
> > Got a better alternative? 
> 
> No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
> which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than 
> the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. 

Then go use more variables to make it a better assessment.   For example, 
we know that service based and VATs are functionally regressive and
change the narrative of the also easy-to-measure "richest X% pay Y%' narrative.  

> If the richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can 
> see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator 
> of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".

This metic obscures that the richest also make more of the total nationwide 
income than merely what a quintile appears to represent.  For example, the
top 1% pay 22% of the 87% your article crows about ... and also do note
that the income of the Top Quintile reaches all the way down to $112K.

If one really wants insight it requires examining all relevant expenses being paid,
which is where we get into all of the unavoidable non-income taxes which are
largely hidden in service fees and VATs which versus income are functionally 
regressive.

For but one example, gasoline taxes.  Anyone who has a car pays them and 
at an average of 15K miles/yr at 25mpg, the Government taxes add up to
be roughly $0.60/mile nationwide, which means a hidden consumption tax 
of ~$360/yr.  While this may not sound like a lot, for a median household 
(~$55K), $360 is an increase in their real total tax rate of +0.65%, whereas 
for the 1%er, the same $360 is no more than a +0.1% increase.

Repeat with the other Federal & State taxes & fees hidden in utility bills, etc.
and the net result is that the population who pays "No" Federal Income Tax
is actually paying out a decent percentage of their income though all of these.

 
-hh

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#485002 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-19 04:54 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<5e647428-f165-4c34-bf0f-b168f90bbfd1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485000
On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:28:00 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:40:31 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> > > > 
> > > > Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
> > > 
> > > Got a better alternative? 
> > 
> > No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
> > which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than 
> > the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. 
> 
> Then go use more variables to make it a better assessment.   For example, 
> we know that service based and VATs are functionally regressive and
> change the narrative of the also easy-to-measure "richest X% pay Y%' narrative.  
> 
> > If the richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can 
> > see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator 
> > of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".
> 
> This metic obscures that the richest also make more of the total nationwide 
> income than merely what a quintile appears to represent.  For example, the
> top 1% pay 22% of the 87% your article crows about ... and also do note
> that the income of the Top Quintile reaches all the way down to $112K.
> 
> If one really wants insight it requires examining all relevant expenses being paid,
> which is where we get into all of the unavoidable non-income taxes which are
> largely hidden in service fees and VATs which versus income are functionally 
> regressive.
> 
> For but one example, gasoline taxes.  Anyone who has a car pays them and 
> at an average of 15K miles/yr at 25mpg, the Government taxes add up to
> be roughly $0.60/mile nationwide, which means a hidden consumption tax 
> of ~$360/yr.  While this may not sound like a lot, for a median household 
> (~$55K), $360 is an increase in their real total tax rate of +0.65%, whereas 
> for the 1%er, the same $360 is no more than a +0.1% increase.
> 
> Repeat with the other Federal & State taxes & fees hidden in utility bills, etc.
> and the net result is that the population who pays "No" Federal Income Tax
> is actually paying out a decent percentage of their income though all of these.
> 
>  
> -hh



Ending support for Mac Classic is what it comes down to. Anyway, it does not matter because the FROM line on a post does not matter, it's the content that counts. That's what Klaus Schadenfreude does when he gets caught. He of course creates a new identity, starts a stupid thread so he can claim he didn't do it. Don't blame me it was my left hand... and then Klaus Schadenfreude babbles to his own post with his right hand. 

Valuable content creation will leave once those of us here before the eternal September are outnumbered. That, and there will always be a conniption fit or two in an unmoderated ng (hello Klaus Schadenfreude). The current crap aside, we have all seen who regularly lashes out when he does not get a catch on his hook. Rambling cretin. No no. Klaus Schadenfreude never agreed to stop accusing good people of being like him. He lied about his trolling and that was that. 

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#485024 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-19 08:08 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<6fe57c28-d906-4caf-8a13-41b2042c9e00@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485000
On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:28:00 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:40:31 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> > > > 
> > > > Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
> > > 
> > > Got a better alternative? 
> > 
> > No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
> > which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than 
> > the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. 
> 
> Then go use more variables to make it a better assessment.   For example, 
> we know that service based and VATs are functionally regressive and
> change the narrative of the also easy-to-measure "richest X% pay Y%' narrative.  
> 
> > If the richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can 
> > see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator 
> > of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".
> 
> This metic obscures that the richest also make more of the total nationwide 
> income than merely what a quintile appears to represent.  For example, the
> top 1% pay 22% of the 87% your article crows about ... and also do note
> that the income of the Top Quintile reaches all the way down to $112K.
> 
> If one really wants insight it requires examining all relevant expenses being paid,
> which is where we get into all of the unavoidable non-income taxes which are
> largely hidden in service fees and VATs which versus income are functionally 
> regressive.
> 
> For but one example, gasoline taxes.  Anyone who has a car pays them and 
> at an average of 15K miles/yr at 25mpg, the Government taxes add up to
> be roughly $0.60/mile nationwide, which means a hidden consumption tax 
> of ~$360/yr.  While this may not sound like a lot, for a median household 
> (~$55K), $360 is an increase in their real total tax rate of +0.65%, whereas 
> for the 1%er, the same $360 is no more than a +0.1% increase.
> 
> Repeat with the other Federal & State taxes & fees hidden in utility bills, etc.
> and the net result is that the population who pays "No" Federal Income Tax
> is actually paying out a decent percentage of their income though all of these.

I don't disagree that certain taxes are hidden and that 
the amount they eat into a paycheck can be a sizable 
percentage, I'm merely saying that using one metric like 
that makes no sense. One can't compensate for what 
comes back in the form of entitlements (and you're not
looking at that above, either). This 'obscuring' BS is all
pervasive, for example, we're told the current debt to
GDP ratio is ~106% but that's a crock. The odd thing is
we have people saying: 'Well, I guess we should start
to pay attention to that', without realizing the actual
number would shock them. We *should* be shocked by 
the current number but we're not.

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#485306 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-20 20:26 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<1ce8b733-9c1b-4f30-bfc3-7d5cc5fe4b97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485024
On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 5:28:00 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:40:31 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 5:02:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are income tax "rates" the best indicator of how the bill was split
> > > > 
> > > > Got a better alternative? 
> > > 
> > > No, but I can still believe this one, as the "ONLY" indicator,
> > > which is the way you're using it, makes no more sense than 
> > > the amount that actually was paid *as* a percentage. 
> > 
> > Then go use more variables to make it a better assessment.   For example, 
> > we know that service based and VATs are functionally regressive and
> > change the narrative of the also easy-to-measure "richest X% pay Y%' narrative.  
> > 
> > > If the richest 20% pay 87% of all income taxes (see article) I can 
> > > see why they would use the number as a 'better' indicator 
> > > of 'fairness' than a "rate". YMDV as pitted against "TI".
> > 
> > This metic obscures that the richest also make more of the total nationwide 
> > income than merely what a quintile appears to represent.  For example, the
> > top 1% pay 22% of the 87% your article crows about ... and also do note
> > that the income of the Top Quintile reaches all the way down to $112K.
> > 
> > If one really wants insight it requires examining all relevant expenses being paid,
> > which is where we get into all of the unavoidable non-income taxes which are
> > largely hidden in service fees and VATs which versus income are functionally 
> > regressive.
> > 
> > For but one example, gasoline taxes.  Anyone who has a car pays them and 
> > at an average of 15K miles/yr at 25mpg, the Government taxes add up to
> > be roughly $0.60/mile nationwide, which means a hidden consumption tax 
> > of ~$360/yr.  While this may not sound like a lot, for a median household 
> > (~$55K), $360 is an increase in their real total tax rate of +0.65%, whereas 
> > for the 1%er, the same $360 is no more than a +0.1% increase.
> > 
> > Repeat with the other Federal & State taxes & fees hidden in utility bills, etc.
> > and the net result is that the population who pays "No" Federal Income Tax
> > is actually paying out a decent percentage of their income though all of these.
> 
> I don't disagree that certain taxes are hidden and that 
> the amount they eat into a paycheck can be a sizable 
> percentage, I'm merely saying that using one metric like 
> that makes no sense. One can't compensate for what 
> comes back in the form of entitlements (and you're not
> looking at that above, either). This 'obscuring' BS is all
> pervasive, for example, we're told the current debt to
> GDP ratio is ~106% but that's a crock. The odd thing is
> we have people saying: 'Well, I guess we should start
> to pay attention to that', without realizing the actual
> number would shock them. We *should* be shocked by 
> the current number but we're not.



Sandman blames Silver "Christ Hater" Slimer for what others do. Here is a list of names Jonas Eklundh has admitted he attributes to Silver "Christ Hater" Slimer "Cactus Pete", "Donald", "Donald Miller", "Horace McSwain", "Hymen", "meat", "Mike Weaver", "Modena IV Drid", "Omar Murad Asfour", "Rhino Plastee", "Soapy", "SopwithCamel", "Sunny Day", "Takuya Saitoh", "The Letter Q", "tmelmosfire", "zevon". And the herd is stupid enough to believe him. 

Silver "Christ Hater" Slimer must realize bigdog knows he is just being a moron. 

When I was not after approval of the herd, I wanted to be fair and unbiased. I gave Silver "Christ Hater" Slimer more than a credible person generally would. Are you being transparent on purpose? 

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#484793 — Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-17 14:11 -0800
SubjectRe: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett.
Message-ID<71465110-a033-4fcc-b02f-3fd588c5e16f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484788
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:37:38 PM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Hugh replied:
> > > Google " Hosehold Income and Political Affiliation ".
> > 
> > First hit:
> > people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/
> 
> " People in Democratic-leaning states 
>   make more money than those in Republican-leaning states ".
> 
>     Cleveland.COM/datacentral/index.ssf/2015/09/blue_states_red_states_rich_st.html

Thanks; I'll take a look.

 
> > > We tolerate the rich and the poor, but not polygamists nor incels;
> > > when it comes to marriage, equal  OUTCOMES  are enforced,
> > > as if no man is better than the next.
> > 
> > Good observation, even though it doesn't mean that it is right.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > the rich currently pay lower net tax rates
> 
> Income taxes aren't  THE ONLY  indicator.
> The rich pay more property taxes, more capital gains,
> more sales taxes, more insurance payments, more lawyers, bankers, etc.

True, there's multiple metrics, but Income Tax rates are a good
general indicator, particularly since some of the things you
mention are wrapped up in it.  For example, capital gains
get paid on income tax, but have their own special tax rate
which is lower than the rate for conventional earned income.

 
> > Warren Buffett pointed this hypocrisy out a few years ago...
> 
> I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett; if his
> secretary isn't a Democrat, she's probably doing fine too.
> "God" (nature) programmed us to over-eat and over-breed.

Point being that the tax code provides financial rewards
for certain times of activities, some of which are arguably
worthwhile as societal builders (classical example being
home ownership), but others which are just the near-exclusive 
tools of the rich (such as Capital Gains) who simply do not
need additional incentives, nor is there a broader societal
benefit to rationalize it.


-hh

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#484769 — Democrats are rich scofflaws.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-17 08:10 -0800
SubjectDemocrats are rich scofflaws.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--8.10am.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#484761
Poor Steve told rich Hugh:
> There is 'helping' the poor'... then there is 
> 'helping the poor until you become poor'.

Democrats are rich scofflaws. 
Republicans are the obedient poor.

Hugh isn't worried about becoming poor;
besides, he'd spend "your" money, Steve.

Rich Steve asked poor me:
> What if  MILLIONS  came over your wall
> while you were busy answering the door ?

That's par for the course because "God" (nature)
programmed us to over-eat and over-breed.

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#484776 — Re: Democrats are rich scofflaws.

FromSir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2019-01-17 11:18 -0600
SubjectRe: Democrats are rich scofflaws.
Message-ID<LtqdnUN-bfh9Jd3BnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#484769
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:10:53 -0800 (Seattle), LO AND BEHOLD;
Jeff-Relf.Me  @. determined that the following was of great importance 
and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--8.10am.Seattle.2019>:
 
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Poor Steve told rich Hugh:
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ There is 'helping' the poor'... then there is 'helping the poor until
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ you become poor'.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ 
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Democrats are rich scofflaws. Republicans are the obedient poor.

LOL

yeah, because trying to boil everything in the universe down to only two possible arbitrary categories plucked out of ones ass is what fucking morons do.  so do that.

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#484723 — Re: My vice is better than yours.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-16 12:11 -0700
SubjectRe: My vice is better than yours.
Message-ID<ga9dvdFk0cvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#484631
On 1/15/19 5:32 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 4:26:20 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>> Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed.
>>
>> That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s
>> huge harm ongoing from it
> 
> You're missing it, the "harm" is *already* going on.

There is harm and benefit to many things. Sure.

> "We should first be helping U.S. citizens, getting our own
> house in order, before we try to fix other things."

Part of getting our own house in order is fixing immigration laws so we 
are not creating a huge black market immigration system.

Surely you must be for that -- working to get it so people are not 
waiting decades. Right?

> What's so wrong with confining immigration to the  legal
> method and dialing in our own sh*t? I'm still not getting it.

Nobody is promoting illegal immigration... though our broken immigration 
policies do.

But notice how the goal post here has moved: from a wall that will do 
very little to alter illegal immigration levels or drug trafficking to 
the idea of illegal immigration at all.

> The illegal method has been *so* normalized that Relf
> claims a person is "ignoring  the needy" if he/she disagrees
> with letting them all in right away. 

Part of our right way is to fix our immigration and asylum systems. You 
do not hear EITHER party talking much about this.

We certainly do not hear you talk about it.

> Is there a magical cutoff
> point where you're no longer "ignoring" them?  Nope, only
> when you've let in *all* of "the needy" who want to come
> can that statement be considered accurate.

If someone needs asylum we should help -- esp. when their need comes in 
part from our policies.

> This is similar to the number of illegals that *allegedly*
> benefit our economy. Logic dictates that (if there actually
> even is a 'net gain') there *has* to be a cutoff point, the
> number can't go on until *all* are absorbed. What is that
> number? You won't get an answer and the mere asking of
> the question underscores how goofy things have gotten,
> which is *why* you won't get an answer. People on 'the
> left' don't want to address the obvious.

Ah, again you attack the left but not the right. So what is YOUR number.

And back it.

But you will not. This is very predictable.

>> , yet he hasn’t quantified it.
>>
>>> Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich".
>>
>> Sorry if I gave you thst impression.
> 
> You didn't... he did that on his own... and it's not the
> rich guy who gets harmed.

Our systems are generally set up to benefit the rich at the expense of 
others. THIS is the bigger issue with our economy... but you focus on 
the poor, those who pretty much by definition do not have the power to 
cause the harm the very rich can.

>> My point has been to
>> observe that the current laws are very much slanted to
>> benefit the rich (including how they’re able to exploit the
>> illegals for their financial gain), so these laws should be
>> changed to put an end to that preferentialism.
> 
> There are *already* laws against exploitation that are *not*
> enforced. What makes you think the writing of newer ones
> will accomplish anything when they're not likely to be
> enforced, either? 

So why have laws at all? As you note there are laws against illegal 
immigration but they are not always enforced. So let's do away with them 
completely?

Your "logic" is broken.

> For a solution here, you can't just grab the
> prostitute, you need the John, too... but then you're worse
> off in the eyes of 'the left'. 

Keep in mind you made this up.

> It's only a catch 22 if you let
> compassion get the better of things.

How DARE people show compassion and be decent human beings.

Oy.

Your "logic" is broken.

> If you actually want
> to solve the problem, confine compassion to legal paths of
> immigration and do what obviously needs to be done.

No: we can have compassion for people using the black market immigration 
system we have created, too. Does not mean we should not work to fix it, 
but compassion is not reserved for those people you find "worthy". Those 
who are causing NO harm but are seeking to better their lives are not 
doing anything to suggest they should not have compassion.




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#484642 — Re: My vice is better than yours.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-15 18:17 -0800
SubjectRe: My vice is better than yours.
Message-ID<93d4486f-5e35-491e-8751-a8c67deb6c25@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484625
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 4:26:20 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> 
> That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.
> 
> > Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich". 
> 
> Sorry if I gave you thst impression.  My point has been to 
> observe that the current laws are very much slanted to 
> benefit the rich (including how they’re able to exploit the 
> illegals for their financial gain), so these laws should be 
> changed to put an end to that preferentialism.  
> 
> 
> -hh



Nobody is being controlled by RMS. 

Flooder Steve Carroll claims to be the screencasting expert, let's see him put up an example without the automated loops.Flooder Steve Carroll has cut down on the zillions of egotistical, idiotic threads he used to post but he is really the same in the truthfulness dept. He uses sock puppets more now to generate those posts. And given how repeatedly it seems that Flooder Steve Carroll's post is some distortion of  a narrative Rudy Canoza shared which had been a beating on Flooder Steve Carroll for something he did which was insane/false/etc... its really a common expression of Flooder Steve Carroll's deep rooted butthurt for having been so frequently humiliated. I can tell from how Flooder Steve Carroll complained - by asking for details of the system and so on - he's certainly not figured out an algorithmically challenging problem in his life. Otherwise he would have understood the requirements to not create thousands of 'launchers'! 



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#484661 — Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-15 22:14 -0800
SubjectChildren of rich parents are the worst tenants.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.15--10.14pm.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#484625
Hugh replied:
> > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> 
> That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.

A wall, with cameras, would help gather your statistics;
currently, an ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
make his way up to the U.S. border and, with help, cross it.

> > Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich". 
> 
> current laws are very much slanted to benefit the rich 
> ( including how they’re able to exploit the 
>   illegals for their financial gain ) 

No one can do anything about theft, here in Seattle;
no one is jailed, no one is punished, not even a voice can be raised.
" How may I help you steal today ? ", is the city's vibe.

And they're stealing rent too, not just money and alcohol.

Children of rich parents are the worst tenants...
because they've been raised on _ legal drugs and privilege.

One tenant graffitied every inch of his room, ceiling, 
walls, furniture... everything.  Blood splatter everywhere,
from his intravenous drug use.

He got the hottest chicks and had the foulest mouth.

He refused to move out unless I gave him a full refund of his deposit
( which is mom paid, of course ); he'd take me to court, he said.
He wouldn't pay rent, and he wouldn't vacate.

Lucky for me, his hot/rich girlfriend to took him away...
so she could be closer to her heroin source.

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#484663 — Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-15 22:42 -0800
SubjectRe: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.
Message-ID<529b91c2-cba7-4074-a2e8-2176ef82d111@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484661
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 11:14:52 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Hugh replied:
> > > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> > 
> > That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> > huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.
> 
> A wall, with cameras, would help gather your statistics;
> currently, an ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
> make his way up to the U.S. border and, with help, cross it.
> 
> > > Hugh would break the law to harm "the rich". 
> > 
> > current laws are very much slanted to benefit the rich 
> > ( including how they’re able to exploit the 
> >   illegals for their financial gain ) 
> 
> No one can do anything about theft, here in Seattle;
> no one is jailed, no one is punished, not even a voice can be raised.
> " How may I help you steal today ? ", is the city's vibe.
> 
> And they're stealing rent too, not just money and alcohol.
> 
> Children of rich parents are the worst tenants...
> because they've been raised on _ legal drugs and privilege.
> 
> One tenant graffitied every inch of his room, ceiling, 
> walls, furniture... everything.  Blood splatter everywhere,
> from his intravenous drug use.
> 
> He got the hottest chicks and had the foulest mouth.
> 
> He refused to move out unless I gave him a full refund of his deposit
> ( which is mom paid, of course ); he'd take me to court, he said.
> He wouldn't pay rent, and he wouldn't vacate.
> 
> Lucky for me, his hot/rich girlfriend to took him away...
> so she could be closer to her heroin source.



Linus Torvalds is a false advocate's hero. Despite all the crowing Steven Petruzzellis's done on this topic, the 'IT Master' does not get how to do this. It really takes a couple seconds to highlight text and 'reverse' it. I just set a filter and won't be impacted by the posts. Steven Petruzzellis's crap has made a mess of usenet via GG, so I don't even bother replying to Snit with my tablet anymore. One thing he has succeeded at with this crap is that the Steven Petruzzellis filter will forever stay. Steven Petruzzellis suffers from neurotic lies so, to him, everything, even people ignoring him, are "attacks". Who *doesn't* know this? I bet he thinks your life was worse than Snit's. 

For crying out loud, just recently Steven Petruzzellis was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes just to annoy people) are trying to rewrite Tar from scratch. 

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#484684 — Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-16 03:53 -0800
SubjectRe: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.
Message-ID<f94b0235-818f-4f3b-9ec0-d458f197e407@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484661
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 1:14:52 AM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Hugh replied:
> > > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> > 
> > That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> > huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.
> 
> A wall, with cameras, would help gather your statistics;

There's already cameras which already document crossings:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System#Mission>

The current CONOP is that they monitor the crossing and wait for the
trespassers to make their way to a choke point (highway 5-100 miles
inland) where they're then apprehended.  

The consequence of this approach is that when the crosser turns 
themselves in as a refugee, they're already inside the USA, so their 
request *must* be accepted.  That's why this Administration has been
trying so hard to keep them on the other side of the border line.  

> currently, an ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
> make his way up to the U.S. border and, with help, cross it.

Sure, but why walk across Mexico when there's a dozen other options?  
Even if they want to walk, choose instead the vastly less monitored &
defended northern border with Canada.  Or take a boat.  Plus its also 
straightforward in some countries to get a passport with someone else's 
name on it and just fly into the USA as that person.  


-hh

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#484686 — Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-16 04:11 -0800
SubjectRe: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants.
Message-ID<b82559a0-e22e-4dd0-aa8e-d54b470aad7b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484684
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 4:53:47 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 1:14:52 AM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Hugh replied:
> > > > Steve says illegal immigration should be curbed. 
> > > 
> > > That’s not all that he’s saying; he’s claimed that there’s 
> > > huge harm ongoing from it, yet he hasn’t quantified it.
> > 
> > A wall, with cameras, would help gather your statistics;
> 
> There's already cameras which already document crossings:
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethered_Aerostat_Radar_System#Mission>
> 
> The current CONOP is that they monitor the crossing and wait for the
> trespassers to make their way to a choke point (highway 5-100 miles
> inland) where they're then apprehended.  
> 
> The consequence of this approach is that when the crosser turns 
> themselves in as a refugee, they're already inside the USA, so their 
> request *must* be accepted.  That's why this Administration has been
> trying so hard to keep them on the other side of the border line.  
> 
> > currently, an ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
> > make his way up to the U.S. border and, with help, cross it.
> 
> Sure, but why walk across Mexico when there's a dozen other options?  
> Even if they want to walk, choose instead the vastly less monitored &
> defended northern border with Canada.  Or take a boat.  Plus its also 
> straightforward in some countries to get a passport with someone else's 
> name on it and just fly into the USA as that person.  
> 
> 
> -hh



What did Just Wondering have to say about this amazing support from new posters? Most of the time he would try to lead Sandman to trust they're "honest and honorable" posters who just happened to have not enough brains to see through his lies. Yeah, right! 

In fact Just Wondering's lies were quoted time and time again. So needless to say I regret helping Just Wondering. While I am sure the trolls appreciated it, he has taught me to never try to appease a troll. 

Are you being idiotic on purpose? I bet he thinks his life was perfect. 

Richard Stallman is a false advocate's only reason for living. 

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#484641

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-16 02:13 +0000
Message-ID<sz8b0803ga.3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#484525
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  

Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
renting it or not.

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#484643

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-15 18:33 -0800
Message-ID<3f2e66c7-678b-4294-b198-9f82784c111d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484641
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 7:13:16 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
> > You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
> > homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
> > payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
> > doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
> > tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
> > this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
> > those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
> 
> Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
> renting it or not.



Ha, ha! I am working on code which will show off how weak MATE is. 

It was Just Wondering who was publicly asking how better to hide his trolling. Who are you even blubbering to? Think about it, who knows AppleScript, is an avid scripter, has stolen Peter Köhlmann's account, has poor impulse control and is a gigantic immatureloser who, when he is called out, posts all kinds of ridiculous crap even when he's not flooding... AND... who works to blame everything he is doing on "anyone he can" and has for years? 

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#484740

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 02:10 +0000
Message-ID<q1oo67$ua0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#484641
On 2019-01-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
>> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
>> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
>> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
>> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
>> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
>> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
>
> Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
> renting it or not.

Logic is not one of "-hh's" strong suits, is it?

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#484742

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-16 18:43 -0800
Message-ID<8ef6ac3e-e84e-4bea-9ebb-87f30756e8d5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484740
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:10:19 PM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
> On 2019-01-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > -hh wrote:
> >
> >> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
> >> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
> >> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
> >> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
> >> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
> >> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
> >> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
> >
> > Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
> > renting it or not.
> 
> Logic is not one of "-hh's" strong suits, is it?

Speaking of logic RonB ... you should have thought things through before
trying to sling an insult.

Because as owl points out, the landlord pays property tax regardless of occupancy,
which means that the revenue coming in from taxes stays the same while the city 
has fewer students - thus lower costs.
 
That's no decrease in revenue, with lower payments out.

So then, just how does owl's observation make a city's fiscal situation worse
than if the unit had been occupied?   
 

-hh

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#484766

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 07:51 -0800
Message-ID<5f1a1ad1-fd7f-4d0e-9a18-6c795f7ca055@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484742
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:10:19 PM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
> > On 2019-01-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > > -hh wrote:
> > >
> > >> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
> > >> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
> > >> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
> > >> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
> > >> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
> > >> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
> > >> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
> > >
> > > Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
> > > renting it or not.
> > 
> > Logic is not one of "-hh's" strong suits, is it?
> 
> Speaking of logic RonB ... you should have thought things through before
> trying to sling an insult.
> 
> Because as owl points out, the landlord pays property tax regardless of occupancy,

If you acknowledge that, I'm wondering why you worded your 
statement the way you did:

"For example, if they're not homeless but paying rent, then that
landlord is making property tax payments which go through the 
city to the school system..."

Owl's point appears valid to me <shrug>.

> which means that the revenue coming in from taxes stays the same while the city 
> has fewer students - thus lower costs.

But that's not how it works in the long run.

> That's no decrease in revenue, with lower payments out.

For a period of time, sure.
 
> So then, just how does owl's observation make a city's fiscal situation worse
> than if the unit had been occupied? 

Only if you look at a slice of (uncorrected) time does the 
asking of this question make sense, In fact, you already 
provided the reason:

"the local government didn't set their property tax rates correctly vs the demand."

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