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The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools

Started by"F. Russell" <frussell@random.info>
First post2019-01-21 16:47 +0000
Last post2019-01-21 17:10 -0800
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  The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-21 16:47 +0000
    Clearly, Russell is just a NEGATIVE piece of shit. Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 13:19 -0800
    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-21 19:52 -0500
      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-22 00:55 +0000
        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-22 01:23 +0000
          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:22 -0500
        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-21 21:48 -0500
          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 19:15 -0800
          Fabian's bra. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-22 02:17 -0800
            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 02:50 -0800
            Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 18:37 +0000
              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-22 14:01 -0500
                Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:07 +0000
                Re: Fabian's bra. Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 15:07 +0100
                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-31 14:57 +0000
                    Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-31 12:42 -0600
                      Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-31 19:42 +0000
                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 11:52 -0800
              Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 11:55 -0700
            Re: Fabian's bra. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:35 -0500
              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 19:46 +0000
                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-22 16:08 -0500
                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 13:29 -0800
                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:00 +0000
                  I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-22 17:06 -0800
                    Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 17:39 -0800
                    Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:42 +0000
                      Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 13:59 -0800
                      I'll film it, so it's a porn vid, making it 100% legal. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-23 14:48 -0800
                        Re: I'll film it, so it's a porn vid, making it 100% legal. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 15:03 -0800
                      Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:48 -0500
                        Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 17:54 -0800
                        Re: I've written C# macros and extensions to automate Visual Studio 2017. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-24 07:32 -0600
                Re: Fabian's bra. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 20:06 -0500
                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:19 +0000
                    Re: Fabian's bra. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 12:31 -0500
                      Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 13:24 -0600
                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 11:54 -0800
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 12:02 -0700
                    Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 13:50 -0600
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 12:24 -0800
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:35 +0000
                Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 07:00 -0600
                Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-28 11:57 -0700
                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-01 23:49 -0500
                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 21:16 -0800
                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-02 06:09 -0800
                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-02 15:56 +0000
                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-02 08:45 -0800
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-02 14:13 -0800
                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 01:39 -0800
                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-02 12:32 -0500
                      Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-02 18:36 +0000
                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-03 09:46 -0500
                          Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-03 18:43 +0000
                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 11:00 -0800
                              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-03 23:42 -0500
                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 21:39 -0800
                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 09:19 -0800
                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 07:19 -0800
                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 15:53 +0000
                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 08:14 -0800
                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 08:32 -0800
                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 08:17 -0800
                                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-04 16:35 +0000
                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 09:03 -0800
                                      Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-04 17:54 +0000
                                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 10:02 -0800
                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 10:55 -0800
                                          Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-04 20:00 +0000
                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 15:19 -0500
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-04 20:59 +0000
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-04 21:52 +0000
                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 14:31 -0800
                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. flyer <snowflyer09o@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 22:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 15:17 -0800
                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-05 00:32 +0000
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 10:07 -0500
                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 07:44 -0800
                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 07:51 -0800
                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 10:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 07:58 -0800
                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 11:09 -0500
                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 08:17 -0800
                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 12:08 -0500
                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-06 17:18 +0000
                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 13:32 -0500
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-06 18:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 14:28 -0500
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-06 19:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 14:50 -0500
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 12:15 -0800
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 15:21 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 12:50 -0800
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 13:00 -0800
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 13:03 -0800
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 13:06 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 19:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-02-06 21:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 14:02 -0800
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-07 00:29 +0000
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 20:03 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-07 21:42 +0000
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 19:41 -0500
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-09 14:46 +0000
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-09 23:11 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-10 13:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-10 13:09 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Ratchetjaw <ratchetjaw@mail.com> - 2019-02-10 18:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 14:45 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-10 14:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-10 12:23 -0500
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 20:38 -0500
                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-06 17:53 +0000
                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 00:13 +0000
                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 19:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 01:12 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 01:39 +0000
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 17:48 -0800
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 20:51 -0500
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 18:16 -0800
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 21:41 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 19:02 -0800
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-07 18:42 -0500
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-07 10:30 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 07:41 -0800
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 15:53 +0000
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 02:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 21:36 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 18:57 -0800
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 22:17 -0500
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 19:28 -0800
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 03:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 19:40 -0800
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 06:06 +0000
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 06:39 -0800
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-07 09:55 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 15:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 09:40 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 21:45 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 14:48 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 14:54 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-07 18:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 16:39 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 00:21 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 07:33 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 07:57 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 11:55 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 13:01 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 14:09 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 18:26 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 16:18 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-09 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-09 15:26 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 11:19 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-08 13:37 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-08 22:05 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-08 14:30 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-02-09 15:27 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 08:10 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 04:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:35 -0800
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 23:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 20:33 -0800
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 06:11 +0000
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 09:04 +0100
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-02-07 09:16 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 06:44 -0800
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-07 15:49 +0000
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-02-09 19:05 -0500
                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-06 11:02 -0600
                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-02-09 19:06 -0500
                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 07:48 -0600
                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-11 14:03 +0000
                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 08:22 -0600
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-11 14:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 07:32 -0800
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 11:23 -0600
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-11 18:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 12:36 -0600
                                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 14:10 -0500
                                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 13:09 -0800
                                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-11 21:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 13:27 -0800
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-12 22:08 -0500
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 13:31 -0800
                                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 18:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 15:49 -0800
                                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-12 00:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 20:06 -0500
                                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-12 07:20 -0600
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. Ratchetjaw <ratchetjaw@mail.com> - 2019-02-11 15:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 07:31 -0800
                                                                      Does your "smart" phone do this ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-11 14:29 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does your "smart" phone do this ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 14:52 -0800
                                                                          Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-11 18:42 -0800
                                                                            Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 19:58 -0800
                                                                              Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 04:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 20:32 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 05:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 07:26 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-12 10:32 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 17:21 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 09:32 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-02-12 17:34 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 17:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-02-12 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 10:21 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 12:59 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-02-12 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 18:46 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 17:45 +0000
                                                                                          I'm the Queen of England. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 15:00 -0800
                                                                                            Re: I'm the Queen of England. Ratchetjaw <ratchetjaw@mail.com> - 2019-02-12 23:08 +0000
                                                                                              I can't post it to YouTube, of course. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 15:43 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Can you do this, with your own custom vocabulary, backed up ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 17:12 +0000
                                                                        Re: Does your "smart" phone do this ? "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-11 17:56 -0500
                                                                          Re: Does your "smart" phone do this ? % <persent@.gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 16:01 -0700
                                                                          Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-11 18:49 -0800
                                                                            Re: Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic. Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-11 21:37 -0600
                                                                              Re: Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic. Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 21:46 -0600
                                                                            Re: Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-12 09:23 -0500
                                                                              Kooks jerking-off to sick Jeff Bezos fantasies chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-12 08:29 -0600
                                                                              Re: Jeff Bezos sent me another fucking DickPic. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 09:31 -0800
                                                                              Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 14:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ? "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-12 18:25 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 16:32 -0700
                                                                                  Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 16:20 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-12 19:46 -0500
                                                                                      I'm inoculated against women and money. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 18:46 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 19:20 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 20:24 -0700
                                                                                          PeeScent can't read or write properly, can't Google, etc. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-12 20:03 -0800
                                                                                            Re: PeeScent can't read or write properly, can't Google, etc. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:54 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 22:46 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-13 09:44 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:55 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Your "smart" phone ain't so smart. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 13:43 -0800
                                                                                          Once a month, maybe. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-13 14:39 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Did you teach it "dick" ( not "Dick" ) ? "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2019-02-13 07:19 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does your "smart" phone do this ? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-02-12 05:58 +0000
                                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-12 22:11 -0500
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-13 11:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-13 11:10 +0000
                                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 08:04 -0800
                                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 11:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 08:32 -0800
                                                          Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-06 16:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 12:40 -0500
                                                              Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-06 18:38 +0000
                                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 09:45 -0800
                                                  Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-06 17:38 +0000
                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 12:28 -0800
                                            Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-05 00:06 +0000
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. flyer <snowflyer09o@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 00:32 +0000
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 17:38 -0800
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 18:22 -0800
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 22:46 -0500
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 19:58 -0800
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-02-05 11:59 -0500
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 09:45 -0800
                                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 06:47 -0800
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-05 16:24 +0000
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 08:43 -0800
                                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 09:38 -0500
                                              Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-06 15:19 +0000
                                                Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-06 11:10 -0600
                                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 13:14 -0800
                                    Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-02-04 17:39 +0000
                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 10:00 -0800
                                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 10:08 -0800
                                        Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 22:10 -0500
                                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 10:39 -0800
                                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 12:59 -0800
                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 11:16 -0800
                            Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 20:21 -0800
                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 23:12 -0800
                          Re: Fabian's bra. Ratchetjaw <ratchetjaw@mail.com> - 2019-02-10 00:38 +0000
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-02 15:31 -0800
                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 05:01 -0800
                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 09:10 -0800
                      Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 01:54 -0800
                  Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 21:59 -0500
                    Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-05 03:17 +0000
                      Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-04 22:36 -0500
                        Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 19:42 -0800
                        Re: Fabian's bra. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-05 04:21 +0000
                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 20:29 -0800
                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 20:45 -0800
                          Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-05 06:59 -0800
                            Re: Fabian's bra. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-02-06 00:07 +0000
                              Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-05 22:56 -0500
                              Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-06 07:35 -0800
                              Re: Fabian's bra. Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-02-07 00:50 +0100
                                Re: Fabian's bra. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-02-09 19:01 -0500
                                  Re: Fabian's bra. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 07:00 -0600
                            Re: Fabian's bra. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 09:33 -0500
                    Re: Fabian's bra. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 19:27 -0800
          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 15:06 +0100
        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:21 -0500
          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 12:11 -0800
          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-23 01:07 +0000
            Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 01:18 +0000
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-23 08:50 +0000
                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:13 +0000
                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 08:29 -0800
                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-23 16:35 +0000
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 08:37 -0800
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 17:30 +0000
                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 09:36 -0800
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 17:34 +0000
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 10:19 -0800
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:45 +0000
            Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-22 23:22 -0500
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 23:22 -0800
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-23 08:41 +0000
                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 01:11 -0800
                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:13 -0500
                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-24 00:31 +0000
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 16:53 -0800
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 09:00 -0500
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 08:13 -0800
                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 11:43 -0500
                          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 08:59 -0800
                            Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 18:49 -0500
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-24 21:25 +0000
                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 18:26 -0500
                          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-25 00:40 +0000
                            Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-25 12:33 -0500
                              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-25 18:13 +0000
                                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-25 18:44 +0000
                                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-25 19:26 +0000
                                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-25 19:39 +0000
                                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-25 19:50 +0000
                                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-25 15:44 -0500
                                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 15:57 +0000
                                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 08:47 -0800
                                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 17:04 +0000
                                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 09:18 -0800
                                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-26 13:13 -0500
                                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 19:07 +0000
                                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 11:11 -0800
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-25 10:15 +0000
                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 07:03 -0800
                          Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-25 15:30 +0000
                            Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 07:39 -0800
                        Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-25 16:22 -0500
                      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-31 06:53 -0800
                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-24 06:57 -0600
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-24 18:09 +0000
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-23 20:38 +0000
                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 09:01 -0500
                  Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:04 +0000
                    The Sad and Disgusting Story of "DFS" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-24 10:35 -0600
                    Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-01-24 19:00 -0500
              Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:11 -0500
                Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 15:34 -0800
      Re: The Sad and Disgusting Story of Panotools Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 17:10 -0800

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#485747

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 01:11 -0800
Message-ID<e282edec-dae0-4487-91f7-a346129c1d34@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485744
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 1:42:29 AM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:22:16 -0500, DFS wrote:
> 
> > 
> > ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all 
> > their work for free.
> > 
> 
> Commercial software no longer has any value.  The design
> of the standard computing utilities, such as word processors,
> spreadsheets, databases, image/audio/video processing,
> etc., has been set in stone DECADES ago.  Innovation and
> progress are no longer possible.  For a commercial company
> to charge the exorbitant prices which they do for these
> basic commodities is nothing short of EXTORTION.
> 
> Commercial companies are now being kept alive by gimmicks
> and other deceptions of "progress" and they are fast
> moving toward an extortionate subscription model.
> 
> The intelligent computer user has long along fled from
> this lunacy and adopted GNU/Linux/FOSS.
> 
> Only the hordes of clueless idiots -- and that includes
> YOU -- are left to sustain this lunatic commercialism.
> 
> No, Microshit CANNOT compete fairly.  Their continual
> introduction of their own "standards" is nothing less
> than protectionism.  If Microshit were to base its
> software on the independent global standards then they
> would be drowned within the myriad of other competent
> producers.  This is undeniable fact.
> 
> Hail Linux!
> 
> Hail GNU and the FSF!
> 
> Hail Stallman
> 
> Fuck Microshit and all of its idiot supporters!



Takuya Saitoh can only understand from the perspective of a psychopath. These posts are clearly NOT automated, they are made by a glue sniffing insomniac with a personal vendetta who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other idiots helping him). That is the problem today and less experienced instructors don't care at all, people from pre-tech generations (~40 or so) should know better than to fall for socialism. I am happy the person you are attacking is in my kill file. I nonetheless remain unpersuaded that these never ending posts are definitely from a bot. The cult-like herd of convenient friends value conformity above choice and productivity. 

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#485855

Fromsilverslimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2019-01-23 18:13 -0500
Message-ID<36th4ed9ipuo26etu957j7f1ec33373f2c@4ax.com>
In reply to#485744
On 23 Jan 2019 08:41:29 GMT, "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:22:16 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> 
>> ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all 
>> their work for free.
>> 
>
>Commercial software no longer has any value.  The design
>of the standard computing utilities, such as word processors,
>spreadsheets, databases, image/audio/video processing,
>etc., has been set in stone DECADES ago.  Innovation and
>progress are no longer possible.  For a commercial company
>to charge the exorbitant prices which they do for these
>basic commodities is nothing short of EXTORTION.

Innovation and progress are always possible, but DFS does make an
excellent point in stating that LibreOffice has yet to catch up to the
standard WordPerfect Office and Microsoft Office set at the onset of
the 21st century. As such, for LibreOffice at least, innovation and
progress are very much possible and needed.

>Commercial companies are now being kept alive by gimmicks
>and other deceptions of "progress" and they are fast
>moving toward an extortionate subscription model.

I agree here.

>The intelligent computer user has long along fled from
>this lunacy and adopted GNU/Linux/FOSS.
>
>Only the hordes of clueless idiots -- and that includes
>YOU -- are left to sustain this lunatic commercialism.
>
>No, Microshit CANNOT compete fairly.  Their continual
>introduction of their own "standards" is nothing less
>than protectionism.  If Microshit were to base its
>software on the independent global standards then they
>would be drowned within the myriad of other competent
>producers.  This is undeniable fact.

Microsoft can and does seemingly compete fairly despite your protests.
If that statement hadn't been true, Google and Apple wouldn't be
handily defeating it on certain fronts. 

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#485875

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2019-01-24 00:31 +0000
Message-ID<q2b10v01as3@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#485855
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:13:58 -0500, silverslimer wrote:

> 
> LibreOffice has yet to catch up to the
> standard WordPerfect Office and Microsoft 
>

What the fuck do you know?  Asshole idiot.

You do NOTHING with a computer.  NOTHING.

But I am EXTREMELY VERSED in all aspects of Microshit
as well as LibreOffice and it is undeniably true that
LO equals Microshit in most areas with the exception
of Power Pivot, a.k.a. Self-Service Business Intelligence
(although LO is well developed regarding data models).

Furthermore, LO will only get vastly better in time
due to the massive community involvement, whereas
Microshit continues to degenerate towards extortionate
practices.

So go back to your asshole games, little boy.
Your opinions and judgments are worth less than
pig flatus.

Problem for your sorry ass:

Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
LO and Microshit.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
disgrace.

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#485877

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-23 16:53 -0800
Message-ID<cb95e29c-b592-418b-a5d9-a2b2be768dc0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485875
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:13:58 -0500, silverslimer wrote:
> 
> > 
> > LibreOffice has yet to catch up to the
> > standard WordPerfect Office and Microsoft 
> >
> 
> What the fuck do you know?  Asshole idiot.
> 
> You do NOTHING with a computer.  NOTHING.
> 
> But I am EXTREMELY VERSED in all aspects of Microshit
> as well as LibreOffice and it is undeniably true that
> LO equals Microshit in most areas with the exception
> of Power Pivot, a.k.a. Self-Service Business Intelligence
> (although LO is well developed regarding data models).
> 
> Furthermore, LO will only get vastly better in time
> due to the massive community involvement, whereas
> Microshit continues to degenerate towards extortionate
> practices.
> 
> So go back to your asshole games, little boy.
> Your opinions and judgments are worth less than
> pig flatus.
> 
> Problem for your sorry ass:
> 
> Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
> of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
> LO and Microshit.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
> disgrace.



bigdog must know everyone knows he is just lying. These posts are clearly not automated, they are made by an overmedicated insomniac with an axe to grind who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other morons helping him). 

At times, fantasy is more valuable than faithful descriptions of reality. 

bigdog suffers from waking drug trips so, to him, everything, even people ignoring him, are "aggressive". Who *doesn't* know this? Hell, just recently he was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes just to annoy people) are trying to make Linux become like the Mac. Can you get Snit (a real advocate) to agree? 



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#485902

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-24 09:00 -0500
Message-ID<Lxj2E.109351$S24.76429@fx19.iad>
In reply to#485875
On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:13:58 -0500, silverslimer wrote:
> 
>>
>> LibreOffice has yet to catch up to the
>> standard WordPerfect Office and Microsoft
>>
> 
> What the fuck do you know?  Asshole idiot.
> 
> You do NOTHING with a computer.  NOTHING.

Which is EXACTLY what you do with a computer.



> But I am EXTREMELY VERSED in all aspects of Microshit
> as well as LibreOffice 

Lying sack of shit.  You're EXTREMELY LOST when it comes to programming 
MS Office or LeeberOffice.

Two days ago:

<quote>
Coding is busy work for brain-dead lackeys.

Yep.  I have it all worked out in my head.  The "programming"
is finished.  Now I just need to "code" it all.

I need to train some stupid bitch to do the coding for me...
</quote>


Why are you scared to do it yourself?  Probably because you know LO 
Basic is convoluted and verbose.

=======================================================================
read some data in LO Base (from pg 161 of the LibreOffice 3 Basic Guide
=======================================================================
Dim DatabaseContext As Object
Dim DataSource As Object, Connection As Object
Dim Statement As Object, ResultSet As Object
DatabaseContext = createUnoService("com.sun.star.sdb.DatabaseContext")
DataSource = DatabaseContext.getByName("Customers")
Connection = DataSource.GetConnection("","")
Statement = Connection.createStatement()
ResultSet = Statement.executeQuery("Customer")
If Not IsNull(ResultSet) Then
   While ResultSet.next
     MsgBox ResultSet.getString(1)
   Wend
End If


13 lines (50% more than VBA).  Shortened from the original 21 lines.


==========================================================
read data in MS Access (2003) using DAO library
==========================================================

  Dim db As Database, rs As Recordset
  Set db = CurrentDb()   'or Set db = OpenDatabase(path)
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("TRAVEL")
  While Not rs.EOF
    MsgBox rs("State") & " - " & rs("City")
    rs.MoveNext
  Wend
End Sub


8 lines
==========================================================

MS is doomed.




> and it is undeniably true that
> LO equals Microshit in most areas 

That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient 
MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:

* you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
   code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
   Ridiculous.

* listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
   Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.

* there's no dedicated report or form designer in Base; it just uses the
   Writer component with menu items enabled/disabled.  What a silly
   kludge - it's a shortcut taken because real life gets in the way of
   hobbyist development.

* Access forms and reports have conditional formatting that can be
   applied programmatically or via GUI at design time.  Still not
   available in LO Base.

* they can't even handle data copying correctly.  Open a Base table and
   try to mouse- or keyboard-select a subset of data (say rows 3-6 out of
   10, and columns 2-4 out of 8).  It can't be done.  You can only
   highlight-copy the entire table in LO Base.

   Or go the other way: try to append a bunch of data from Calc into a
   Base table.  It's easy to do in Excel->Access, of course, but it won't
   work at all in LO Base.  LO devs were asleep that day in 1995 when
   Microsoft developers mastered simple data exchange between apps.  It's
   actually unbelievable.

* the Base report object doesn't let you format a field as a running sum
   (over group or over all).  Access 2003 does, of course.

* the Calc macro recorder generates insane amounts of code to do even
   the simplest things.

* it's God-awful slow for the most part.  File open/save is tortuous.


I could go on and on and on about the deficiencies in that slopware, but 
it falls on deaf ears.  Uninformed, inexperienced, biased idiots like 
you and wRonG will still claim LibreOffice is as good as or better than 
MS Office.

On the plus side, it [claims to] open a huge number of file formats.  In 
practice it's a mixed bag; 20-30 seconds to open a 798KB .pdf file 
(Sumatra opens nearly all .pdf files in <1 second - even 70MB ones).

Anyway, disregard the lousy Base component, and the LO Basic debacle, 
and it's a decent program for free.  That's the best that can be said 
about it.

But sometimes $0 is not a cost worth bearing, and in my opinion 
LibreOffice is a prime example.



> with the exception
> of Power Pivot, a.k.a. Self-Service Business Intelligence
> (although LO is well developed regarding data models).


I don't know what advancements are in place in later versions of Access 
and Excel (2007, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2019), but it'll likely be another 
decade before LO gets to cloning them.



> Furthermore, LO will only get vastly better in time
> due to the massive community involvement, 

They've had nearly 1400 recorded contributors working on (and off) that 
hobbyware over the last two decades, and it's still slow and bumbling 
and lagging features in good commercial office suites.

https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/


> whereas Microshit continues to degenerate towards extortionate
> practices.

Idiot liar.


> So go back to your asshole games, little boy.
> Your opinions and judgments are worth less than
> pig flatus.

Slimer's opinions are FAR MORE valuable than your constant, stupid, 
ignorant, screeching rants about "Microshit".



> Problem for your sorry ass:
> 
> Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
> of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
> LO and Microshit.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


"last row of a date range"?

That doesn't make sense, moron.



> The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
> disgrace.

You frequently do that.

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#485914

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-24 08:13 -0800
Message-ID<e15ccbab-0f65-4baa-9d9c-74cd76153ae4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485902
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:00:14 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:

(snip)

> > and it is undeniably true that
> > LO equals Microshit in most areas 
> 
> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient 
> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
> 
> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>    code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>    Ridiculous.
> 
> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>    Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
> 
> * there's no dedicated report or form designer in Base; it just uses the
>    Writer component with menu items enabled/disabled.  What a silly
>    kludge - it's a shortcut taken because real life gets in the way of
>    hobbyist development.
> 
> * Access forms and reports have conditional formatting that can be
>    applied programmatically or via GUI at design time.  Still not
>    available in LO Base.
> 
> * they can't even handle data copying correctly.  Open a Base table and
>    try to mouse- or keyboard-select a subset of data (say rows 3-6 out of
>    10, and columns 2-4 out of 8).  It can't be done.  You can only
>    highlight-copy the entire table in LO Base.
> 
>    Or go the other way: try to append a bunch of data from Calc into a
>    Base table.  It's easy to do in Excel->Access, of course, but it won't
>    work at all in LO Base.  LO devs were asleep that day in 1995 when
>    Microsoft developers mastered simple data exchange between apps.  It's
>    actually unbelievable.
> 
> * the Base report object doesn't let you format a field as a running sum
>    (over group or over all).  Access 2003 does, of course.
> 
> * the Calc macro recorder generates insane amounts of code to do even
>    the simplest things.
> 
> * it's God-awful slow for the most part.  File open/save is tortuous.
> 
> 
> I could go on and on and on about the deficiencies in that slopware, but 
> it falls on deaf ears.  Uninformed, inexperienced, biased idiots like 
> you and wRonG will still claim LibreOffice is as good as or better than 
> MS Office.
> 
> On the plus side, it [claims to] open a huge number of file formats.  In 
> practice it's a mixed bag; 20-30 seconds to open a 798KB .pdf file 
> (Sumatra opens nearly all .pdf files in <1 second - even 70MB ones).
> 
> Anyway, disregard the lousy Base component, and the LO Basic debacle, 
> and it's a decent program for free.  That's the best that can be said 
> about it.
> 
> But sometimes $0 is not a cost worth bearing, and in my opinion 
> LibreOffice is a prime example.


That's a pretty damning list, I had no idea of disparities like
these but I can see why IT departments would steer clear of
LO. For the 'little guy' I suppose LO can suffice but once you
get big enough to have an IT department it falls off the radar
for some solid reasons.

(snip)

> > Problem for your sorry ass:
> > 
> > Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
> > of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
> > LO and Microshit.
> > 
> > Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> 
> "last row of a date range"?
> 
> That doesn't make sense, moron.

Freudian slip on Feeb's part... switch"date ranga", the 
new GHB based dating technique that many nerdy, IT 
department lackeys are raving about, with 'data range'.

> > The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
> > disgrace.
> 
> You frequently do that.

Very frequently.

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#485918

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-24 11:43 -0500
Message-ID<9Wl2E.132981$Aq8.95450@fx47.iad>
In reply to#485914
On 1/24/2019 11:13 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:00:14 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:

>>> Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
>>> of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
>>> LO and Microshit.
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>>
>> "last row of a date range"?
>>
>> That doesn't make sense, moron.
> 
> Freudian slip on Feeb's part... switch"date ranga", the
> new GHB based dating technique that many nerdy, IT
> department lackeys are raving about, with 'data range'.

shhhh!  Let Feeb figure it out.



>>> The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
>>> disgrace.
>>
>> You frequently do that.
> 
> Very frequently.


The other day he said SQLite tables can't be modified.  Then the dumbass 
shut his yap and ran away.

But before long he'll be back with:


<quotes>

I am ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING.

I am ALWAYS right, unconditionally.

I am NEVER wrong.  NEVER.

Don't ever DARE attempt to indicate that I am wrong.  I am
NEVER WRONG.  Do you got that, idiot?  I am NEVER WRONG.

As should be obvious to anyone, I am NEVER wrong about ANYTHING.

</quotes>


Mommy coddled Little Feeb way too much.

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#485919

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-24 08:59 -0800
Message-ID<6d56bef9-c079-43d0-99b8-29b426fc8275@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#485918
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 1/24/2019 11:13 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:00:14 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> >> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> 
> >>> Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
> >>> of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
> >>> LO and Microshit.
> >>>
> >>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> >>
> >>
> >> "last row of a date range"?
> >>
> >> That doesn't make sense, moron.
> > 
> > Freudian slip on Feeb's part... switch"date ranga", the
> > new GHB based dating technique that many nerdy, IT
> > department lackeys are raving about, with 'data range'.
> 
> shhhh!  Let Feeb figure it out.

He's still moving his hips from last time, where they didn't
give him a turn again. At least his 'crew' confine their 'dates' 
to barnyard animals. Still... somebody should do something,
there's only so many goat feces covered finger cots any
community should have to suffer on trash day. 

> >>> The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
> >>> disgrace.
> >>
> >> You frequently do that.
> > 
> > Very frequently.
> 
> 
> The other day he said SQLite tables can't be modified.  Then the dumbass 
> shut his yap and ran away.
> 
> But before long he'll be back with:
> 
> 
> <quotes>
> 
> I am ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING.
> 
> I am ALWAYS right, unconditionally.
> 
> I am NEVER wrong.  NEVER.
> 
> Don't ever DARE attempt to indicate that I am wrong.  I am
> NEVER WRONG.  Do you got that, idiot?  I am NEVER WRONG.
> 
> As should be obvious to anyone, I am NEVER wrong about ANYTHING.
> 
> </quotes>

You forgot the best part... where he threatens to send goon 
squads to your house. 

> Mommy coddled Little Feeb way too much.

That's not very compassionate of you! For all anyone knows
his may be one of those 'Aunt Mommy' stories that'll spawn
Lifetime's next 'Movie of the Week'.

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#485933

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-24 18:49 -0500
Message-ID<88s2E.91643$375.81557@fx40.iad>
In reply to#485919
On 1/24/2019 11:59 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/24/2019 11:13 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:00:14 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>
>>>>> Describe how to determine, programmaticaly, the last row
>>>>> of a date ranga in ALL major spreadsheets, including
>>>>> LO and Microshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "last row of a date range"?
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make sense, moron.
>>>
>>> Freudian slip on Feeb's part... switch"date ranga", the
>>> new GHB based dating technique that many nerdy, IT
>>> department lackeys are raving about, with 'data range'.
>>
>> shhhh!  Let Feeb figure it out.
> 
> He's still moving his hips from last time, where they didn't
> give him a turn again. At least his 'crew' confine their 'dates'
> to barnyard animals. Still... somebody should do something,
> there's only so many goat feces covered finger cots any
> community should have to suffer on trash day.
> 
>>>>> The asshole idiot will run away hoping to hide his
>>>>> disgrace.
>>>>
>>>> You frequently do that.
>>>
>>> Very frequently.
>>
>>
>> The other day he said SQLite tables can't be modified.  Then the dumbass
>> shut his yap and ran away.
>>
>> But before long he'll be back with:
>>
>>
>> <quotes>
>>
>> I am ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING.
>>
>> I am ALWAYS right, unconditionally.
>>
>> I am NEVER wrong.  NEVER.
>>
>> Don't ever DARE attempt to indicate that I am wrong.  I am
>> NEVER WRONG.  Do you got that, idiot?  I am NEVER WRONG.
>>
>> As should be obvious to anyone, I am NEVER wrong about ANYTHING.
>>
>> </quotes>
> 
> You forgot the best part... where he threatens to send goon
> squads to your house.


ah yes.. the e-violence


<quotes>

To DFS:
Boycott the stupid stooge.  No one must respond to his posts.
And don't take this lightly.  I have associates in the Aryan Brotherhood
and if I give the go ahead they will find your sorry ass.  One day
you'll get a knock on the door followed by a fist through your
face.

To 1-Eyed-Chicken:
You fucking chicken-shit cocksucker, if I didn't love my
nearly 200lb, 21-inch CRT monitor so much, I'd smash your
fucking face right through the screen.

To DFS:
That's where you'll be after my baseball bat smashes
your head.

To vallor:
If I see a game being played on a GNU/Linux machine I will take
a sledge hammer and smash that machine and the owner along with it.

To slimer:
So whoever claims that GNU/Linux is lax when it comes to bugs should
be beaten into unconsciousness with baseball bats.

To Marek:
If that lady would stop yelling and start bashing some heads with
a baseball bat, those kids would NEVER bother her again.
Likewise, if I ever caught these Usenet shills out on the streets,
I'd knock most of their fucking teeth out with my fists.  They'd all
be limping away spitting blood -- and they would NEVER cause problems on
Usenet again.

To cola:
This means that I don't want to hear defamations and
condemnations about some idiot called "Snit."  If you
have disagreements, then take a drive to Prescott, AZ,
remove a baseball bat from your trunk, and then beat
that asshole into oblivion.

To Se7en, about DFS:
Don't ever apologize to that asshole shill.  He deserves
only to be severely beaten with a baseball bat.

To DFS:
That's where you'll be after my baseball bat smashes
your head.

To Taka:
You need to be hit with a clue stick.
Then a baseball bat.

To DFS:
You are in need of serious remediation -- with a baseball bat.

To slimer, about Snit:
That weird-fuck Glasser is flooding alt.os.linux and comp.lang.c
with his psycho-gibberish.  He deserves to be severely beaten
with baseball bats but yet dummy-ass Carroll and the Bird Brain
continue to stroke that piece of trash.

To Dr John Grubor, about Snit:
You know where he resides, now go over there and beat the living
fuck out of him.
I will guarantee it.  A couple of hard punches to the face will
cause him to think twice about his repugnant on-line activities.
Be sure and record the event on video.  It would be fun to watch
him cower and cringe like the true coward that he is.  He'd probably
even shit his pants.

To cola:
I HATE smart phone users.  If I were not a law abiding citizen, I would
punch every one in the fucking face.

To shitv:
When I was a GTA, I used to hear a lot of that ("forgotten most of 
calculus") from students.  I would always wait for them after class and 
then beat the living fuck out of them.  I put a lot of them right where
they belong -- in intensive care.

</quotes>


Bring on a Native American to bang a drum and calm Feeb down.



>> Mommy coddled Little Feeb way too much.
> 
> That's not very compassionate of you! For all anyone knows
> his may be one of those 'Aunt Mommy' stories that'll spawn
> Lifetime's next 'Movie of the Week'.

ha!

He's so crazy he'll eventually transition and show up on Snapped.

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#485930

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-24 21:25 +0000
Message-ID<sixz90p3tgawtg3h4.4@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485902
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>> and it is undeniably true that

>> LO equals Microshit in most areas 
> 
> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient 
> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
> 
> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>   code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>   Ridiculous.
> 
> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>   Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
> 

What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
still by row or do you select cells? 

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#485932

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-24 18:26 -0500
Message-ID<ePr2E.70067$hW2.16921@fx18.iad>
In reply to#485930
On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>> and it is undeniably true that
> 
>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>
>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>
>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>    code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>    Ridiculous.
>>
>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>    Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>
> 
> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
> still by row or do you select cells?


The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings, 
watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.

Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...

You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but 
you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via 
0-based code.

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#485935

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 00:40 +0000
Message-ID<sz08b03ga.3u@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485932
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>> and it is undeniably true that
>> 
>>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>>
>>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>>
>>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>>    code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>>    Ridiculous.
>>>
>>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>>    Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>>
>> 
>> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
>> still by row or do you select cells?
> 
> 
> The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings, 
> watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.
> 
> Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...
> 
> You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but 
> you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via 
> 0-based code.
> 

When would it be useful to do so?  And how do you label the combobox
so that it is clear to the user what happens when he selects a column,
or a cell, vs a row?

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#485955

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-25 12:33 -0500
Message-ID<jKH2E.231614$xN2.10851@fx17.iad>
In reply to#485935
On 1/24/2019 7:40 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>> and it is undeniably true that
>>>
>>>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>>>
>>>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>>>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>>>
>>>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>>>     code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>>>     Ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>>>     Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
>>> still by row or do you select cells?
>>
>>
>> The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings,
>> watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.
>>
>> Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...
>>
>> You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but
>> you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via
>> 0-based code.
>>
> 
> When would it be useful to do so?  And how do you label the combobox
> so that it is clear to the user what happens when he selects a column,
> or a cell, vs a row?


It would be useful to address the data in the combobox via code whenever 
you need to do so.  You can read the data in the combobox, set the 
datasource, show/hide columns, bind columns, even make it dropdown 
automatically.  All via code.

And because of limited screenspace you don't generally label the 
combobox to explain what happens after selection - you add the 
explanation to the StatusBarText property of the combobox.

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#485957

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 18:13 +0000
Message-ID<sizb803ga.3ghu3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485955
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/24/2019 7:40 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>> and it is undeniably true that
>>>>
>>>>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>>>>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>>>>
>>>>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>>>>     code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>>>>     Ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>>>>     Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
>>>> still by row or do you select cells?
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings,
>>> watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.
>>>
>>> Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...
>>>
>>> You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but
>>> you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via
>>> 0-based code.
>>>
>> 
>> When would it be useful to do so?  And how do you label the combobox
>> so that it is clear to the user what happens when he selects a column,
>> or a cell, vs a row?
> 
> 
> It would be useful to address the data in the combobox via code whenever 
> you need to do so.  You can read the data in the combobox, set the 
> datasource, show/hide columns, bind columns, even make it dropdown 
> automatically.  All via code.
> 

Of course.  But how does the user know what data is being read?
IOW, if he selects a row, which column(s) will actually be processed?

(Maybe you could mock up an example on imgur to clarify?)

> And because of limited screenspace you don't generally label the 
> combobox to explain what happens after selection - you add the 
> explanation to the StatusBarText property of the combobox.

So it's a mysterybox until he makes a selection?

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#485958

From"F. Russell" <frussell@random.info>
Date2019-01-25 18:44 +0000
Message-ID<q2fldn08a9@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#485957
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:13:14 +0000, owl vomited this verbiage that I
considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a variety of possible
reasons:

>> 
> Of course.  But how does the user know what data is being read?
> IOW, if he selects a row, which column(s) will actually be processed?
> 

Showing multiple fields can help in, for example, selecting
a name if both the first and last names are shown.

A property of the combobox control, called the "Bound Column,"
is the value that gets associated with the cb following a user
selection.

The MS Access combobox properties are more extensive than that
of LibreOffice but so what?  This is not a mark of inferiority
as the dumb-fuck stooge implies.  LO has different capabilities
and it is the job of the developer to exploit those capabilities
in a creative fashion and not to bemoan some supposed shortcomings.

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#485959

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 19:26 +0000
Message-ID<ax9b030aga3iri.u@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485958
F. Russell <frussell@random.info> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:13:14 +0000, owl vomited this verbiage that I
> considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a variety of possible
> reasons:
> 
>>> 
>> Of course.  But how does the user know what data is being read?
>> IOW, if he selects a row, which column(s) will actually be processed?
>> 
> 
> Showing multiple fields can help in, for example, selecting
> a name if both the first and last names are shown.
> 

You could combine both into a single column and it would make more sense.
https://imgur.com/a/6PQJ4N8


> A property of the combobox control, called the "Bound Column,"
> is the value that gets associated with the cb following a user
> selection.
>

Is it limited to one column though?  Either way, how is the user
to know what he is actually selecting?
 
 
> The MS Access combobox properties are more extensive than that
> of LibreOffice but so what?  This is not a mark of inferiority
> as the dumb-fuck stooge implies.  LO has different capabilities
> and it is the job of the developer to exploit those capabilities
> in a creative fashion and not to bemoan some supposed shortcomings.
> 

Meanwhile, SC rulez.

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#485960

From"F. Russell" <frussell@random.info>
Date2019-01-25 19:39 +0000
Message-ID<q2fol802fur@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#485959
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:26:41 +0000, owl vomited this verbiage that I
considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a variety of possible
reasons:

>> 
> You could combine both into a single column and it would make more
> sense.
> https://imgur.com/a/6PQJ4N8
> 

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  In a previous post, I mentioned that
I was doing that, for a different and unrelated purpose, and I was
savagely and brutally attacked from all directions.

>>
> Is it limited to one column though?  Either way, how is the user to know
> what he is actually selecting?
>  

Just one column.

The selection is usually very clear from the context.  A CB does not
appear all alone in a form.  The CB is commonly used to initiate some
action, via a change event, when the user makes a selection and the action
is quite obvious from the context.  If things are unclear or ambiguous
then some other form control should be chosen to serve the purpose.









>  
>> The MS Access combobox properties are more extensive than that of
>> LibreOffice but so what?  This is not a mark of inferiority as the
>> dumb-fuck stooge implies.  LO has different capabilities and it is the
>> job of the developer to exploit those capabilities in a creative
>> fashion and not to bemoan some supposed shortcomings.
>> 
>> 
> Meanwhile, SC rulez.

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#485961

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-25 19:50 +0000
Message-ID<s9z0b03gag.uoi4@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485960
F. Russell <frussell@random.info> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:26:41 +0000, owl vomited this verbiage that I
> considered to be worthy of my attention for one of a variety of possible
> reasons:
> 
>>> 
>> You could combine both into a single column and it would make more
>> sense.
>> https://imgur.com/a/6PQJ4N8
>> 
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  In a previous post, I mentioned that
> I was doing that, for a different and unrelated purpose, and I was
> savagely and brutally attacked from all directions.
> 

No, they are not "combined" in the table; just in the combobox display.
(Note:  I did have a typo in creation of that db.  The link should
only be in the links table).

sqlite> .schema
CREATE TABLE links (id integer primary key autoincrement, peopleid int, link varchar(100));
CREATE TABLE people (id integer primary key autoincrement, firstname varchar(20), lastname varchar(20));
sqlite>



>>>
>> Is it limited to one column though?  Either way, how is the user to know
>> what he is actually selecting?
>>  
> 
> Just one column.
> 

Then no need to display multiple columns.  If more are needed for
narrowing, use multiple single-column dropdowns.


> The selection is usually very clear from the context.  A CB does not
> appear all alone in a form.  The CB is commonly used to initiate some
> action, via a change event, when the user makes a selection and the action
> is quite obvious from the context.

Not really.


>  If things are unclear or ambiguous
> then some other form control should be chosen to serve the purpose.
> 

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#485965

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2019-01-25 15:44 -0500
Message-ID<uxK2E.245174$xN2.91180@fx17.iad>
In reply to#485957
On 1/25/2019 1:13 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 1/24/2019 7:40 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>>> and it is undeniably true that
>>>>>
>>>>>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>>>>>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>>>>>      code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>>>>>      Ridiculous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>>>>>      Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
>>>>> still by row or do you select cells?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings,
>>>> watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.
>>>>
>>>> Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...
>>>>
>>>> You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but
>>>> you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via
>>>> 0-based code.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When would it be useful to do so?  And how do you label the combobox
>>> so that it is clear to the user what happens when he selects a column,
>>> or a cell, vs a row?
>>
>>
>> It would be useful to address the data in the combobox via code whenever
>> you need to do so.  You can read the data in the combobox, set the
>> datasource, show/hide columns, bind columns, even make it dropdown
>> automatically.  All via code.
>>
> 
> Of course.  But how does the user know what data is being read?
> IOW, if he selects a row, which column(s) will actually be processed?
> 
> (Maybe you could mock up an example on imgur to clarify?)

The data being read is up to the dev, but you don't want to confuse the 
user so you show a value in the cbobox (but your code will generally use 
a hidden ID field if you designed the db correctly).

rowsource = "SELECT id, name, age FROM tbl ORDER BY name;"
columncount = 3
columnwidths = "0in;1in;0.5in"
columnheads = Yes
boundcolumn = 1  (designtime setting. Default is 1, max is columncount, 
Code will by default read the bound column nbr, but you can explicitly 
choose which column you want.)

ctl.column(0) = 1       'column property is 0-based
ctl.column(1) = "owl"
ctl.column(2) = 83



>> And because of limited screenspace you don't generally label the
>> combobox to explain what happens after selection - you add the
>> explanation to the StatusBarText property of the combobox.
> 
> So it's a mysterybox until he makes a selection?


What happens after an item is selected is always a mystery, but 
generally nothing until you click the Go button.

As soon as the control gets focus (either tabbed to or clicked 
on/inside), the status bar text shows up (if you set it - and you always 
should if the app goes out to users).

Access (and VB and Gambas and Qt and other such widget tools) are great 
for data display.  But they're a pain to distribute.

Are you bored, or trolling, or genuinely interested?

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#485999

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-26 15:57 +0000
Message-ID<ab0z08803tg3.a34@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#485965
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/25/2019 1:13 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/2019 7:40 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/24/2019 4:25 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2019 7:31 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>>>> and it is undeniably true that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LO equals Microshit in most areas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a BULLSHIT statement.  LO in 2019 is even far behind the ancient
>>>>>>> MS Office 2003 in a variety of very important ways:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * you can't attach code directly to an object - you have to save the
>>>>>>>      code as a standalone macro, then attach the macro to the object.
>>>>>>>      Ridiculous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * listboxes and comboboxes can show only one column of data at a time.
>>>>>>>      Absurd.  It makes LO worthless as an app development tool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the purpose of having multiple columns in a combobox?  Are selections
>>>>>> still by row or do you select cells?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose is to display data, make boss happy, get paid, eat wings,
>>>>> watch SB on big screen, invite Mrs Owl down to the boat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask her if she doesn't like comboboxes...
>>>>>
>>>>> You select one row (and after the selection it shows only one cell), but
>>>>> you can always address all the rows and columns of a combobox via
>>>>> 0-based code.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When would it be useful to do so?  And how do you label the combobox
>>>> so that it is clear to the user what happens when he selects a column,
>>>> or a cell, vs a row?
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be useful to address the data in the combobox via code whenever
>>> you need to do so.  You can read the data in the combobox, set the
>>> datasource, show/hide columns, bind columns, even make it dropdown
>>> automatically.  All via code.
>>>
>> 
>> Of course.  But how does the user know what data is being read?
>> IOW, if he selects a row, which column(s) will actually be processed?
>> 
>> (Maybe you could mock up an example on imgur to clarify?)
> 
> The data being read is up to the dev, but you don't want to confuse the 
> user so you show a value in the cbobox (but your code will generally use 
> a hidden ID field if you designed the db correctly).
> 
> rowsource = "SELECT id, name, age FROM tbl ORDER BY name;"
> columncount = 3
> columnwidths = "0in;1in;0.5in"
> columnheads = Yes
> boundcolumn = 1  (designtime setting. Default is 1, max is columncount, 
> Code will by default read the bound column nbr, but you can explicitly 
> choose which column you want.)
> 
> ctl.column(0) = 1       'column property is 0-based
> ctl.column(1) = "owl"
> ctl.column(2) = 83
> 
> 

That code just fills the combobox.  It doesn't illustrate the
need for multiple columns.

> 
>>> And because of limited screenspace you don't generally label the
>>> combobox to explain what happens after selection - you add the
>>> explanation to the StatusBarText property of the combobox.
>> 
>> So it's a mysterybox until he makes a selection?
> 
> 
> What happens after an item is selected is always a mystery, but 
> generally nothing until you click the Go button.
> 
> As soon as the control gets focus (either tabbed to or clicked 
> on/inside), the status bar text shows up (if you set it - and you always 
> should if the app goes out to users).
> 
> Access (and VB and Gambas and Qt and other such widget tools) are great 
> for data display.  But they're a pain to distribute.
> 
> Are you bored, or trolling, or genuinely interested?

I'm genuinely interested in how a multicolumn combobox is a better
interface for the user a user than multiple single-column comboboxes would
be.  I saw one example online with song lists showing artist/album/song
in the combobox.  I can imagine that being a jumbled mess with a large
collection.  It would be much better to select artist and see a list of
albums, then select album and see a list of songs, then select song.

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