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| Started by | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| First post | 2025-04-23 09:11 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-04-25 01:27 +0000 |
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Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-23 09:11 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 12:43 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 09:07 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 01:25 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-25 05:12 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 02:53 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-04-25 19:27 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-25 15:38 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-26 00:42 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-24 13:31 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 09:47 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 01:28 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-25 12:06 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:16 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-26 00:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-26 01:21 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 03:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-26 07:34 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 08:04 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 03:00 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-26 10:09 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-26 05:53 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-26 23:00 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:24 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:41 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 13:52 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:35 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:18 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:45 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:44 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-28 17:05 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-28 17:11 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:02 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:08 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 11:07 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:24 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 09:13 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:15 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 14:42 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 15:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 20:33 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:18 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:34 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 18:43 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 00:17 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 21:47 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 07:43 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 09:13 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 20:16 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 20:47 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 19:31 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 00:13 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 22:16 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 10:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 09:31 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-04 09:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 08:23 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:38 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 18:00 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-05 11:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-05 08:40 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-04 14:40 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-04 11:52 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:05 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 04:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-05 18:50 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 14:55 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:29 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 15:20 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 11:28 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 00:11 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 20:15 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 01:02 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 22:24 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 10:56 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:29 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 10:39 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-04 10:04 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 08:24 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:10 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 04:48 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-05 08:36 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 17:06 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-05 14:04 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:59 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-05 15:24 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:21 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-06 11:00 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 20:58 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-06 19:43 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 00:29 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 03:28 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-08 10:02 -0400
Linux again (was: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-07 04:18 +0000
Re: Linux again (was: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 00:56 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 07:13 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 08:04 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 20:43 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 06:54 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-07 17:30 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-08 07:06 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 06:53 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 06:42 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-06 11:02 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 19:36 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:02 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 08:16 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:23 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 19:45 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 02:06 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 07:37 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 18:17 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 13:52 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:49 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-26 22:57 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:33 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:02 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:47 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-27 09:12 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:15 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-28 08:37 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:48 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:49 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:45 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:33 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:31 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:53 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-27 08:51 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 07:33 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:45 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-28 17:42 -0500
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 18:51 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 02:26 +0000
Re: Evolution (was Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:54 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:33 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:56 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 13:59 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:06 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 07:27 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:14 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:53 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:01 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:05 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 08:15 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-26 23:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:46 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 07:41 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:30 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 02:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:33 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:45 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-27 08:15 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 07:35 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:41 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 07:42 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:40 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:25 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:49 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 18:03 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 20:01 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:47 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:15 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:23 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:21 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 11:24 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 21:11 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:33 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 22:14 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 19:37 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 00:25 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-30 00:30 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 18:22 -0700
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-30 01:39 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 08:53 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:54 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 13:28 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 00:09 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 21:45 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 15:31 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 11:41 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:15 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 09:07 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 21:03 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 22:56 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 19:48 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:13 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 22:51 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:49 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 22:49 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-02 19:45 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 05:27 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-03 08:18 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 06:58 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-04 08:14 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 04:41 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:11 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-29 15:26 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 08:56 -0700
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-29 16:10 +0000
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Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:10 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-30 09:05 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:24 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 17:04 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 11:01 -0700
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 19:18 -0400
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 23:30 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 16:01 +0000
Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-05-01 18:47 -0400
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Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 01:09 +0000
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Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-29 01:27 +0000
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 10:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101bsuf.6df.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689912 |
On 2025-05-03, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2025-05-03, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-05-02, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-01, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
[*snip*]
>>>>
>>>> I'm Australian, things are different here, and many Americans have this
>>>> imperialistic, domanting mentality where they think the entire world
>>>> must adopt their values, their culture, their beliefs, their way of
>>>> thinking. I don't hate America, but it irks me to see the American MAGA
>>>> movement copied here (look up Trumpet of Patriots for some cringe), and
>>>> it also irks me to see Californians, or American Coastal elites more
>>>> broadly, act as if they have moral authority to make us adopt their
>>>> rather parochial and extreme values. Unfortunately, Australians follow.
>>>>
>>>> It's sad that people like him don't realise that the REST OF THE WORLD
>>>> sees these city dwelling Californians as loopy. They honestly believe
>>>> they represent socity and the world. Its just...odd... A delusion.
>>>> Perhaps only existing because Big Tech is there and they can throw their
>>>> weight around. Who knows.
>>>
>>> I'm an American and I'm already fed up with Trump's bullshit attempts at
>>> bullying everyone worldwide — and of his idiot claims about the U.S.'s
>>> superiority. (Latest claim is that the U.S. did most of the heavy fighting
>>> in WWII ("by far the bravest"), while 27 million Russians died in that war.
>>> If Trump's hyperinflated ego was a brain, he'd be an Einstein on steroids.
>>> Unfortunately his ego is made up of hot air and bullshit. And, like an
>>> oscillating fan, he changes direction about every five seconds.
>>>
>>> I know in the big scheme of things his attempt at unilaterally renaming the
>>> the Gulf of Mexico, the "Gulf of America" is small potatoes next to his
>>> other, more dangerous, stupidity, but it does highlight the idiot's ego. Now
>>> he's "demanding" that both the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal allow U.S.
>>> ships free passage.
>>>
>>> And, of course, I'm also fed up with California Woke bullcrap, but right now
>>> I'm more worried about Trump's BS.
>>>
>>
>> Lucky I'm in Australia then! We'll, we have our own problems, namely
>> that the government decided that we shouldn't be able to afford a roof
>> over our head, and that our cities need to become overcrowded slums
>> ASAP.
>
> We've got the same issue with roofs over our heads issue in this country.
> The family home is rapidly being rapidly replaced by apartments and "town
> houses," with no property for gardens or self-sufficiency of any kind. The
> percentage of those who own their own homes keeps dropping.
>
> "You'll own nothing and like it" as Klaus Schwab (who definitely owns a lot)
> was fond of saying. Funny how these wannabe world rulers never apply their
> Woke BS to themselves. Self-centered hypocrites.
>
Somehow we've determined we don't need families, nor do we need to keep
reproducing families and creating new generations.
Its like we've decided that we no longer need to exist.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 07:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101e48g.9g5m.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689915 |
On 2025-05-03, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2025-05-03, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-05-03, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-02, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-05-01, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [*snip*]
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm Australian, things are different here, and many Americans have this
>>>>> imperialistic, domanting mentality where they think the entire world
>>>>> must adopt their values, their culture, their beliefs, their way of
>>>>> thinking. I don't hate America, but it irks me to see the American MAGA
>>>>> movement copied here (look up Trumpet of Patriots for some cringe), and
>>>>> it also irks me to see Californians, or American Coastal elites more
>>>>> broadly, act as if they have moral authority to make us adopt their
>>>>> rather parochial and extreme values. Unfortunately, Australians follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's sad that people like him don't realise that the REST OF THE WORLD
>>>>> sees these city dwelling Californians as loopy. They honestly believe
>>>>> they represent socity and the world. Its just...odd... A delusion.
>>>>> Perhaps only existing because Big Tech is there and they can throw their
>>>>> weight around. Who knows.
>>>>
>>>> I'm an American and I'm already fed up with Trump's bullshit attempts at
>>>> bullying everyone worldwide — and of his idiot claims about the U.S.'s
>>>> superiority. (Latest claim is that the U.S. did most of the heavy fighting
>>>> in WWII ("by far the bravest"), while 27 million Russians died in that war.
>>>> If Trump's hyperinflated ego was a brain, he'd be an Einstein on steroids.
>>>> Unfortunately his ego is made up of hot air and bullshit. And, like an
>>>> oscillating fan, he changes direction about every five seconds.
>>>>
>>>> I know in the big scheme of things his attempt at unilaterally renaming the
>>>> the Gulf of Mexico, the "Gulf of America" is small potatoes next to his
>>>> other, more dangerous, stupidity, but it does highlight the idiot's ego. Now
>>>> he's "demanding" that both the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal allow U.S.
>>>> ships free passage.
>>>>
>>>> And, of course, I'm also fed up with California Woke bullcrap, but right now
>>>> I'm more worried about Trump's BS.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lucky I'm in Australia then! We'll, we have our own problems, namely
>>> that the government decided that we shouldn't be able to afford a roof
>>> over our head, and that our cities need to become overcrowded slums
>>> ASAP.
>>
>> We've got the same issue with roofs over our heads issue in this country.
>> The family home is rapidly being rapidly replaced by apartments and "town
>> houses," with no property for gardens or self-sufficiency of any kind. The
>> percentage of those who own their own homes keeps dropping.
>>
>> "You'll own nothing and like it" as Klaus Schwab (who definitely owns a lot)
>> was fond of saying. Funny how these wannabe world rulers never apply their
>> Woke BS to themselves. Self-centered hypocrites.
>>
>
> Somehow we've determined we don't need families, nor do we need to keep
> reproducing families and creating new generations.
>
> Its like we've decided that we no longer need to exist.
For the Gates and Schwabs of the world, we have a surplus of population that
needs to be drastically reduced. Of course they never volunteer to lead the
reducing action themselves. It's always someone else they're thinking about
reducing, not the "elites."
--
Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin
with them. Know the difference.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 08:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7ondsFdg5qU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689947 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 07:02:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > For the Gates and Schwabs of the world, we have a surplus of population > that needs to be drastically reduced. Of course they never volunteer to > lead the reducing action themselves. It's always someone else they're > thinking about reducing, not the "elites." I have to admit I think more in terms of quality than quantity too. Even if the cornucopians are right and the earth can feed more billions many of them won't have much usefulness in the 21st century. Idle hands do the devil's work and all that.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 04:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101gght.aov8.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689948 |
On 2025-05-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 07:02:35 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> For the Gates and Schwabs of the world, we have a surplus of population >> that needs to be drastically reduced. Of course they never volunteer to >> lead the reducing action themselves. It's always someone else they're >> thinking about reducing, not the "elites." > > I have to admit I think more in terms of quality than quantity too. Even > if the cornucopians are right and the earth can feed more billions many of > them won't have much usefulness in the 21st century. Idle hands do the > devil's work and all that. When the "elites" (so-called) look at the world's population they think "cattle," or "goyim." To them population reduction is just "thinning the herd." -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 06:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7r3saFpdknU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689987 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 04:44:39 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > When the "elites" (so-called) look at the world's population they think > "cattle," or "goyim." To them population reduction is just "thinning the > herd." Those particular elites could use some thinning too. There will always be the question of who is on top but the question remains of what to do with the tranche of the bell curve that is dumber than a box of rocks and lacks impulse control? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell It was a different world in 1927.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 18:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7f7vqFs4tbU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689735 |
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:10:07 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know > it. They're closer to the Antifaschistische Aktion, a front of the KPD. Remind me of how that turned out.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 14:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1016vli.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689764 |
On 2025-04-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:10:07 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > >> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >> it. > > They're closer to the Antifaschistische Aktion, a front of the KPD. Remind > me of how that turned out. Its very simple. Your actions reveal your politics. If you act by making spurious accusations, cancelling, lying, by using physical force to block, prevent, deny or intimidate, well, that is your politics. It doesn't matter what you say, how you ACT says everything. If they are thugs on the street, refusing to engage in dialogue or understanding, you can bet your bottom dollar, they'll continue to act that way given more power. And worse... The people who protest, burn, yell, shove over old people are not going to become benevolent and peaceful when they gain power! So yeah, any sane person would treat Antifa as fascist in waiting. And to bring this back sort of to Linux, why they are a danger in any free software project.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 23:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101akg6.2sik.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689735 |
On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >> >>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>> >>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>> >>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>> >>>> >>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>> >>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>> they fit the definition. >> >> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >> >> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >> Oooo, scary. >> > > The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know > it. > > Its a movement, like drug cartels. > > You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in > the name... Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 19:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZXcRP.2$wJTb.1@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #689882 |
On 2025-05-02 19:15, RonB wrote: > On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>> >>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>> they fit the definition. >>> >>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>> >>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>> Oooo, scary. >>> >> >> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >> it. >> >> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >> >> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >> the name... > > Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm > has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — > which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in > upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done > recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't > toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally > banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its > members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically > dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even > really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. Wokism has begun to infiltrate the rather conservative Polish nation too. Right now, it has only infected the cities but as we know here in Canada, those cities usually decide elections. It doesn't matter what most of the country will be against the idiocy and would rather stick to Catholic values because blue-haired girl and their closet homosexual boyfriends are intent on ruining everything for everyone because of some imagine past injustice. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 05:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101baip.7uk4.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689891 |
On 2025-05-02, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-05-02 19:15, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>>> >>>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>>> they fit the definition. >>>> >>>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>>> >>>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>>> Oooo, scary. >>>> >>> >>> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >>> it. >>> >>> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >>> >>> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >>> the name... >> >> Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm >> has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — >> which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in >> upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done >> recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't >> toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally >> banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its >> members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically >> dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even >> really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. > > Wokism has begun to infiltrate the rather conservative Polish nation > too. Right now, it has only infected the cities but as we know here in > Canada, those cities usually decide elections. It doesn't matter what > most of the country will be against the idiocy and would rather stick to > Catholic values because blue-haired girl and their closet homosexual > boyfriends are intent on ruining everything for everyone because of some > imagine past injustice. And once the Woke get in office, they make up phony accusations to either jail their opponents or keep them from running for office. The same thing they tried to do to Trump in the United States. Wokism is fundamentally a dishonest, petty, chickenshit, communist movement. And they use Antifa morons as their knee-capping thugs. -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 08:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xVnRP.15307$f6Vd.4268@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #689910 |
On 2025-05-03 01:32, RonB wrote: > On 2025-05-02, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-05-02 19:15, RonB wrote: >>> On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>>>> they fit the definition. >>>>> >>>>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>>>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>>>> >>>>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>>>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>>>> Oooo, scary. >>>>> >>>> >>>> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >>>> >>>> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >>>> the name... >>> >>> Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm >>> has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — >>> which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in >>> upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done >>> recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't >>> toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally >>> banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its >>> members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically >>> dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even >>> really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. >> >> Wokism has begun to infiltrate the rather conservative Polish nation >> too. Right now, it has only infected the cities but as we know here in >> Canada, those cities usually decide elections. It doesn't matter what >> most of the country will be against the idiocy and would rather stick to >> Catholic values because blue-haired girl and their closet homosexual >> boyfriends are intent on ruining everything for everyone because of some >> imagine past injustice. > > And once the Woke get in office, they make up phony accusations to either > jail their opponents or keep them from running for office. The same thing > they tried to do to Trump in the United States. Wokism is fundamentally a > dishonest, petty, chickenshit, communist movement. And they use Antifa > morons as their knee-capping thugs. Frankly, that's exactly what they will do in Poland if they manage to hold any kind of office. They'll find a reason to ban or jail the Law and Order party even though their ideas are the ones most of the country believes in. Unlike most of the West, Catholicism is still very strong in Poland, so political ideas contrary to what the religion teaches aren't going to be too popular. That country is also probably going to end up being the last white country on Earth in the next two decades, so it only makes sense that they wouldn't want to adopt policies which will exterminate the race and ethnicity like those in France, Britain, Portugal, Spain and every other self-destructive Western nation. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage KDE & LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 01:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101ar0d.7mc.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689882 |
On 2025-05-02, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>> >>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>> they fit the definition. >>> >>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>> >>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>> Oooo, scary. >>> >> >> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >> it. >> >> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >> >> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >> the name... > > Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm > has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — > which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in > upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done > recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't > toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally > banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its > members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically > dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even > really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. > Democracys days are numbered. It cannot survive the diverse society our "leaders" are creating. We've sown the seeds for the dissolution of freedom and unity decades ago. What these people are doing, holding back Democracy is necessary if you want a pluralistic society. ITs rational for them to do that. They have to, they have no choice. Our choice is whether we want their World Order, or one of our own choosing.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 05:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101barm.7uk4.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689897 |
On 2025-05-03, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-05-02, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 2025-04-30, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-29, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:21:25 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote in <slrn1011o35.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>: >>>> >>>>> On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-29 02:15, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28 16:01, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did >>>>>>>>>>> to my machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap >>>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but >>>>>>>>> I think I've got it all cleared now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a script you can use to automatically rid your system of it. >>>>>>>> A quick search on your engine of choice will find it for you. Heck, >>>>>>>> it comes up at the top of the results in Brave Search. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I get more involved with Ubuntu I'll look it up. I was just happy >>>>>>> to be wrong about some of my Ubuntu and Wayland assumptions. Ubuntu is >>>>>>> not going to become my "go to" Linux distribution. It was more in the >>>>>>> line of... "even the Linux 'flavor' I don't particularly like is >>>>>>> pretty good." (I'm still not a fan of Gnome 3.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I wasn't a fan, but I was happy to use it because I'm a fan of Ubuntu's >>>>>> interface. However, I won't bother with it if the contributors are >>>>>> proud members of Antifa. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> They are? Thats a concern if true. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure why Antifa are not labelled as a terrorist organisation, >>>>> they fit the definition. >>>> >>>> That's because Antifa -- literally "Anti-fascist" -- isn't an organization. >>>> It's a movement -- like skateboarding. >>>> >>>> And I love it when people invoke Antifa (anti-fascists) as a boogieman; >>>> then you know where they stand. For example: Eisenhower was "Antifa". >>>> Oooo, scary. >>>> >>> >>> The "antifa" of today have nothing to do with Eisenhower, and you know >>> it. >>> >>> Its a movement, like drug cartels. >>> >>> You know, North Korea calls itself a democracy. IT must be one, its in >>> the name... >> >> Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" arm >> has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, "extremist" — >> which is probably their first step in banning Germans' voting choice in >> upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania and Moldova have done >> recently, banning popular office holders and candidates because they don't >> toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called "democracy" of Ukraine (totally >> banning the opposition, the opposition media and jailing many of its >> members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" meanings these days. Basically >> dictatorship wolves in "democratic" lambs' clothing. And they're not even >> really bothering to hide it any more. It's a sick joke. >> > > > Democracys days are numbered. It cannot survive the diverse society our > "leaders" are creating. We've sown the seeds for the dissolution of > freedom and unity decades ago. > > What these people are doing, holding back Democracy is necessary if you > want a pluralistic society. ITs rational for them to do that. They > have to, they have no choice. Our choice is whether we want their World > Order, or one of our own choosing. With BRICS the Rothschild hegemony is dying. There is going to be a lot of pain while the Empire collapses, but in the end it should make a better, less centralized world. -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 04:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7ljgoFsk04U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689882 |
On Fri, 2 May 2025 23:15:14 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > Heck, even Germany claims to be a "democracy" but they're "intelligence" > arm has just declared the most popular party in Germany, AfD, > "extremist" — which is probably their first step in banning Germans' > voting choice in upcoming elections. Look what "democracies" in Romania > and Moldova have done recently, banning popular office holders and > candidates because they don't toe the Woke line. And ditto the so-called > "democracy" of Ukraine (totally banning the opposition, the opposition > media and jailing many of its members). "Democracy" has many "flexible" > meanings these days. Basically dictatorship wolves in "democratic" > lambs' clothing. And they're not even really bothering to hide it any > more. It's a sick joke. The DDR was a democratic republic too. I recently watched the Kleo series that is set in that era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleo Klep is a Stasi assassin that was hung out to dry by the Stasi. She gets out of prison after the fall of the wall and is a little pissed. It can be a bit strange with characters like Thilo and Uwe, who has more lives than a cat, but I enjoyed it.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 13:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1011krk.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689623 |
On 2025-04-28, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:49:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> I'll admit that I didn't notice all of what installing Snaps did to my >>> machine, but I could definitely tell that it was a mess. >> >> You don't want to run 'df -a'. I'm up to /dev/loop62 for snap stuff. > > It took me a while to root all that snap crap out of my system, but I think > I've got it all cleared now. > It might sound petty, but there is software I will just refuse to install, if it needs to do something like make me use Snap, or install a million dependencies, or otherwise clutter up my system with npm or whatever. Flatpak is, OK, sort of, but again, clutter. I don't want to have hundreds of megabytes of files invisible to my package manager left over after deleting a simple program.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 08:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DOKPP.534545$541.458510@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #689581 |
On 2025-04-28 03:42, RonB wrote: > On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 4/27/25 02:45, RonB wrote: >>> On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 4/25/25 23:00, RonB wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-26, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:06:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand the problems with X11, and supporting legacy, but you can't >>>>>>>> just throw out decades of work and break it because its hard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somebody has to come along and offer to do the work. If nobody does, then >>>>>>> yes, the existing developers are quite justified in saying “that’s not >>>>>>> worth it, let’s just drop it”. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But they ARE doing work. They're creating new stuff that lack some >>>>>> degree of compatibility with the old. This is the problem, devs work on >>>>>> what the want to work on, not what people need. >>>>>> >>>>>> In no one was willing to work on free software, that would make sense, >>>>>> but people are working on reinventing the wheel again and again. We >>>>>> also had Mir. TWO projects. Duplication. >>>>> >>>>> Kind of like Ubuntu trying to force Unity on everyone because "they knew >>>>> better." Or Gnome making huge changes in Gnome 3 because they knew better >>>>> than the user what the *should* want. That's basically why Linux Mint took >>>>> off. Mate and Cinnamon were what a LOT of users wanted, not Gnome 3 or >>>>> Unity. >>>> >>>> In the end, a lot of people ended up liking Gnome 3's way of doing >>>> things, and it is at the core of a few desktop environments. As for >>>> Unity and Mir, I liked the interface of Unity enough to seek it out in >>>> Ubuntu's iteration of Gnome, and Mir was a step in the right direction. >>>> Had Wayland not already have been in development, I doubt people would >>>> have had such a negative opinion of Canonical's decision to move away >>>> from X11. >>> >>> Not me. Never liked either Unity or Gnome 3. I also don't like that >>> customization of Gnome 3 was always an afterthought, with add-ons that broke >>> with each release. Gnome developers seemed to have had a "take it or leave >>> it," mindset. It's gotten a bit better over time but, still, when you ask >>> about moving the top bar to the bottom, and ask why Gnome 3 doesn't a >>> provide a method to do that, you get snarky responses claiming this the top >>> position is "somehow" superior. I don't like it there, it feels >>> "claustrophobic" to me. I always moved the Gnome 2 bar to the bottom. Add-ins >>> are supposed to fix this, but usually they only work for such and such >>> version and are often abandoned. >> >> You're right about the extensions. I abandoned the idea of using them >> when I noticed that they ceased to function the moment the version of >> Gnome increased. >> >>> As for X11 vs Wayland, not quite sure how that fits in the Gnome 3 and Unity >>> vs Gnome 2 debate. >> >> It's not the same debate but a similar one. People hated on Mir simply >> because Canonical introduced it. The company is apparently not allowed >> to introduce its own technology if the community already developed >> something similar. For example, Snap is hated even though it came out >> before Flatpak did and is an improvement on AppImage. I'm not a fan of >> Snap myself (I prefer Flatpak because of the software library and how it >> updates), but I can't say that it's bad. > > I think the reason that people don't like Snaps is because Canonical made > the Snap servers proprietary, under their control. It goes against the whole > point of Linux, that it be open source. And I don't agree that Snaps are > better than AppImages. I prefer AppImages over both Snaps and Flatpaks. AppImages benefit from the fact that they can run on any distribution with a minimum of modification, but they aren't sandboxed. For that reason alone, Flatpak and Snap are both superior to AppImage where security is prioritized. If I could only have one, I'd definitely go with Flatpak though, not only because of its software selection and security benefits but because they perform as well as native packages (in my experience). Updating them is also an absolute breeze compared to Snap. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 19:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn100vnft.a2i.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689599 |
On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-04-28 03:42, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 4/27/25 02:45, RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 4/25/25 23:00, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-26, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:06:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I understand the problems with X11, and supporting legacy, but you can't >>>>>>>>> just throw out decades of work and break it because its hard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somebody has to come along and offer to do the work. If nobody does, then >>>>>>>> yes, the existing developers are quite justified in saying “that’s not >>>>>>>> worth it, let’s just drop it”. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they ARE doing work. They're creating new stuff that lack some >>>>>>> degree of compatibility with the old. This is the problem, devs work on >>>>>>> what the want to work on, not what people need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In no one was willing to work on free software, that would make sense, >>>>>>> but people are working on reinventing the wheel again and again. We >>>>>>> also had Mir. TWO projects. Duplication. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind of like Ubuntu trying to force Unity on everyone because "they knew >>>>>> better." Or Gnome making huge changes in Gnome 3 because they knew better >>>>>> than the user what the *should* want. That's basically why Linux Mint took >>>>>> off. Mate and Cinnamon were what a LOT of users wanted, not Gnome 3 or >>>>>> Unity. >>>>> >>>>> In the end, a lot of people ended up liking Gnome 3's way of doing >>>>> things, and it is at the core of a few desktop environments. As for >>>>> Unity and Mir, I liked the interface of Unity enough to seek it out in >>>>> Ubuntu's iteration of Gnome, and Mir was a step in the right direction. >>>>> Had Wayland not already have been in development, I doubt people would >>>>> have had such a negative opinion of Canonical's decision to move away >>>>> from X11. >>>> >>>> Not me. Never liked either Unity or Gnome 3. I also don't like that >>>> customization of Gnome 3 was always an afterthought, with add-ons that broke >>>> with each release. Gnome developers seemed to have had a "take it or leave >>>> it," mindset. It's gotten a bit better over time but, still, when you ask >>>> about moving the top bar to the bottom, and ask why Gnome 3 doesn't a >>>> provide a method to do that, you get snarky responses claiming this the top >>>> position is "somehow" superior. I don't like it there, it feels >>>> "claustrophobic" to me. I always moved the Gnome 2 bar to the bottom. Add-ins >>>> are supposed to fix this, but usually they only work for such and such >>>> version and are often abandoned. >>> >>> You're right about the extensions. I abandoned the idea of using them >>> when I noticed that they ceased to function the moment the version of >>> Gnome increased. >>> >>>> As for X11 vs Wayland, not quite sure how that fits in the Gnome 3 and Unity >>>> vs Gnome 2 debate. >>> >>> It's not the same debate but a similar one. People hated on Mir simply >>> because Canonical introduced it. The company is apparently not allowed >>> to introduce its own technology if the community already developed >>> something similar. For example, Snap is hated even though it came out >>> before Flatpak did and is an improvement on AppImage. I'm not a fan of >>> Snap myself (I prefer Flatpak because of the software library and how it >>> updates), but I can't say that it's bad. >> >> I think the reason that people don't like Snaps is because Canonical made >> the Snap servers proprietary, under their control. It goes against the whole >> point of Linux, that it be open source. And I don't agree that Snaps are >> better than AppImages. I prefer AppImages over both Snaps and Flatpaks. > > AppImages benefit from the fact that they can run on any distribution > with a minimum of modification, but they aren't sandboxed. For that > reason alone, Flatpak and Snap are both superior to AppImage where > security is prioritized. If I could only have one, I'd definitely go > with Flatpak though, not only because of its software selection and > security benefits but because they perform as well as native packages > (in my experience). Updating them is also an absolute breeze compared to > Snap. There is a lot of talk about sandboxing. Am I weird for not giving rat's patootie about it? In nineteen years I've never had any security issues with Linux. In my experience I've had better luck with AppImages than Flatpaks or Snaps. But I think it all depends on how well they're made. -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-28 16:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <RORPP.2578085$2zn8.1538461@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #689622 |
On 2025-04-28 15:58, RonB wrote: > On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-04-28 03:42, RonB wrote: >>> On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 4/27/25 02:45, RonB wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 4/25/25 23:00, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-26, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:06:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I understand the problems with X11, and supporting legacy, but you can't >>>>>>>>>> just throw out decades of work and break it because its hard. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Somebody has to come along and offer to do the work. If nobody does, then >>>>>>>>> yes, the existing developers are quite justified in saying “that’s not >>>>>>>>> worth it, let’s just drop it”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But they ARE doing work. They're creating new stuff that lack some >>>>>>>> degree of compatibility with the old. This is the problem, devs work on >>>>>>>> what the want to work on, not what people need. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In no one was willing to work on free software, that would make sense, >>>>>>>> but people are working on reinventing the wheel again and again. We >>>>>>>> also had Mir. TWO projects. Duplication. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind of like Ubuntu trying to force Unity on everyone because "they knew >>>>>>> better." Or Gnome making huge changes in Gnome 3 because they knew better >>>>>>> than the user what the *should* want. That's basically why Linux Mint took >>>>>>> off. Mate and Cinnamon were what a LOT of users wanted, not Gnome 3 or >>>>>>> Unity. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the end, a lot of people ended up liking Gnome 3's way of doing >>>>>> things, and it is at the core of a few desktop environments. As for >>>>>> Unity and Mir, I liked the interface of Unity enough to seek it out in >>>>>> Ubuntu's iteration of Gnome, and Mir was a step in the right direction. >>>>>> Had Wayland not already have been in development, I doubt people would >>>>>> have had such a negative opinion of Canonical's decision to move away >>>>>> from X11. >>>>> >>>>> Not me. Never liked either Unity or Gnome 3. I also don't like that >>>>> customization of Gnome 3 was always an afterthought, with add-ons that broke >>>>> with each release. Gnome developers seemed to have had a "take it or leave >>>>> it," mindset. It's gotten a bit better over time but, still, when you ask >>>>> about moving the top bar to the bottom, and ask why Gnome 3 doesn't a >>>>> provide a method to do that, you get snarky responses claiming this the top >>>>> position is "somehow" superior. I don't like it there, it feels >>>>> "claustrophobic" to me. I always moved the Gnome 2 bar to the bottom. Add-ins >>>>> are supposed to fix this, but usually they only work for such and such >>>>> version and are often abandoned. >>>> >>>> You're right about the extensions. I abandoned the idea of using them >>>> when I noticed that they ceased to function the moment the version of >>>> Gnome increased. >>>> >>>>> As for X11 vs Wayland, not quite sure how that fits in the Gnome 3 and Unity >>>>> vs Gnome 2 debate. >>>> >>>> It's not the same debate but a similar one. People hated on Mir simply >>>> because Canonical introduced it. The company is apparently not allowed >>>> to introduce its own technology if the community already developed >>>> something similar. For example, Snap is hated even though it came out >>>> before Flatpak did and is an improvement on AppImage. I'm not a fan of >>>> Snap myself (I prefer Flatpak because of the software library and how it >>>> updates), but I can't say that it's bad. >>> >>> I think the reason that people don't like Snaps is because Canonical made >>> the Snap servers proprietary, under their control. It goes against the whole >>> point of Linux, that it be open source. And I don't agree that Snaps are >>> better than AppImages. I prefer AppImages over both Snaps and Flatpaks. >> >> AppImages benefit from the fact that they can run on any distribution >> with a minimum of modification, but they aren't sandboxed. For that >> reason alone, Flatpak and Snap are both superior to AppImage where >> security is prioritized. If I could only have one, I'd definitely go >> with Flatpak though, not only because of its software selection and >> security benefits but because they perform as well as native packages >> (in my experience). Updating them is also an absolute breeze compared to >> Snap. > > There is a lot of talk about sandboxing. Am I weird for not giving rat's > patootie about it? In nineteen years I've never had any security issues with > Linux. > > In my experience I've had better luck with AppImages than Flatpaks or Snaps. > But I think it all depends on how well they're made. I do agree that a threat necessitating sandboxing is minimal in Linux, but it's still better to be safe than sorry. Either way, Flatpak does a wonderful job for me. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 06:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1010rc3.19bh.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689631 |
On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-04-28 15:58, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-04-28 03:42, RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 4/27/25 02:45, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/25/25 23:00, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-26, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:06:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I understand the problems with X11, and supporting legacy, but you can't >>>>>>>>>>> just throw out decades of work and break it because its hard. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Somebody has to come along and offer to do the work. If nobody does, then >>>>>>>>>> yes, the existing developers are quite justified in saying “that’s not >>>>>>>>>> worth it, let’s just drop it”. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But they ARE doing work. They're creating new stuff that lack some >>>>>>>>> degree of compatibility with the old. This is the problem, devs work on >>>>>>>>> what the want to work on, not what people need. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In no one was willing to work on free software, that would make sense, >>>>>>>>> but people are working on reinventing the wheel again and again. We >>>>>>>>> also had Mir. TWO projects. Duplication. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind of like Ubuntu trying to force Unity on everyone because "they knew >>>>>>>> better." Or Gnome making huge changes in Gnome 3 because they knew better >>>>>>>> than the user what the *should* want. That's basically why Linux Mint took >>>>>>>> off. Mate and Cinnamon were what a LOT of users wanted, not Gnome 3 or >>>>>>>> Unity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the end, a lot of people ended up liking Gnome 3's way of doing >>>>>>> things, and it is at the core of a few desktop environments. As for >>>>>>> Unity and Mir, I liked the interface of Unity enough to seek it out in >>>>>>> Ubuntu's iteration of Gnome, and Mir was a step in the right direction. >>>>>>> Had Wayland not already have been in development, I doubt people would >>>>>>> have had such a negative opinion of Canonical's decision to move away >>>>>>> from X11. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not me. Never liked either Unity or Gnome 3. I also don't like that >>>>>> customization of Gnome 3 was always an afterthought, with add-ons that broke >>>>>> with each release. Gnome developers seemed to have had a "take it or leave >>>>>> it," mindset. It's gotten a bit better over time but, still, when you ask >>>>>> about moving the top bar to the bottom, and ask why Gnome 3 doesn't a >>>>>> provide a method to do that, you get snarky responses claiming this the top >>>>>> position is "somehow" superior. I don't like it there, it feels >>>>>> "claustrophobic" to me. I always moved the Gnome 2 bar to the bottom. Add-ins >>>>>> are supposed to fix this, but usually they only work for such and such >>>>>> version and are often abandoned. >>>>> >>>>> You're right about the extensions. I abandoned the idea of using them >>>>> when I noticed that they ceased to function the moment the version of >>>>> Gnome increased. >>>>> >>>>>> As for X11 vs Wayland, not quite sure how that fits in the Gnome 3 and Unity >>>>>> vs Gnome 2 debate. >>>>> >>>>> It's not the same debate but a similar one. People hated on Mir simply >>>>> because Canonical introduced it. The company is apparently not allowed >>>>> to introduce its own technology if the community already developed >>>>> something similar. For example, Snap is hated even though it came out >>>>> before Flatpak did and is an improvement on AppImage. I'm not a fan of >>>>> Snap myself (I prefer Flatpak because of the software library and how it >>>>> updates), but I can't say that it's bad. >>>> >>>> I think the reason that people don't like Snaps is because Canonical made >>>> the Snap servers proprietary, under their control. It goes against the whole >>>> point of Linux, that it be open source. And I don't agree that Snaps are >>>> better than AppImages. I prefer AppImages over both Snaps and Flatpaks. >>> >>> AppImages benefit from the fact that they can run on any distribution >>> with a minimum of modification, but they aren't sandboxed. For that >>> reason alone, Flatpak and Snap are both superior to AppImage where >>> security is prioritized. If I could only have one, I'd definitely go >>> with Flatpak though, not only because of its software selection and >>> security benefits but because they perform as well as native packages >>> (in my experience). Updating them is also an absolute breeze compared to >>> Snap. >> >> There is a lot of talk about sandboxing. Am I weird for not giving rat's >> patootie about it? In nineteen years I've never had any security issues with >> Linux. >> >> In my experience I've had better luck with AppImages than Flatpaks or Snaps. >> But I think it all depends on how well they're made. > > I do agree that a threat necessitating sandboxing is minimal in Linux, > but it's still better to be safe than sorry. Either way, Flatpak does a > wonderful job for me. I dont have anything against Flatpaks. I just don't worry about sandboxing. I think this is more of an issue for system adminstrators maintaining servers. -- Jesus sat with sinners: He didn't sin with them. Know the difference.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 13:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1011lho.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #689622 |
On 2025-04-28, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-04-28 03:42, RonB wrote: >>> On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> On 4/27/25 02:45, RonB wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>> On 4/25/25 23:00, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-26, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-04-25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 12:06:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I understand the problems with X11, and supporting legacy, but you can't >>>>>>>>>> just throw out decades of work and break it because its hard. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Somebody has to come along and offer to do the work. If nobody does, then >>>>>>>>> yes, the existing developers are quite justified in saying “that’s not >>>>>>>>> worth it, let’s just drop it”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But they ARE doing work. They're creating new stuff that lack some >>>>>>>> degree of compatibility with the old. This is the problem, devs work on >>>>>>>> what the want to work on, not what people need. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In no one was willing to work on free software, that would make sense, >>>>>>>> but people are working on reinventing the wheel again and again. We >>>>>>>> also had Mir. TWO projects. Duplication. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind of like Ubuntu trying to force Unity on everyone because "they knew >>>>>>> better." Or Gnome making huge changes in Gnome 3 because they knew better >>>>>>> than the user what the *should* want. That's basically why Linux Mint took >>>>>>> off. Mate and Cinnamon were what a LOT of users wanted, not Gnome 3 or >>>>>>> Unity. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the end, a lot of people ended up liking Gnome 3's way of doing >>>>>> things, and it is at the core of a few desktop environments. As for >>>>>> Unity and Mir, I liked the interface of Unity enough to seek it out in >>>>>> Ubuntu's iteration of Gnome, and Mir was a step in the right direction. >>>>>> Had Wayland not already have been in development, I doubt people would >>>>>> have had such a negative opinion of Canonical's decision to move away >>>>>> from X11. >>>>> >>>>> Not me. Never liked either Unity or Gnome 3. I also don't like that >>>>> customization of Gnome 3 was always an afterthought, with add-ons that broke >>>>> with each release. Gnome developers seemed to have had a "take it or leave >>>>> it," mindset. It's gotten a bit better over time but, still, when you ask >>>>> about moving the top bar to the bottom, and ask why Gnome 3 doesn't a >>>>> provide a method to do that, you get snarky responses claiming this the top >>>>> position is "somehow" superior. I don't like it there, it feels >>>>> "claustrophobic" to me. I always moved the Gnome 2 bar to the bottom. Add-ins >>>>> are supposed to fix this, but usually they only work for such and such >>>>> version and are often abandoned. >>>> >>>> You're right about the extensions. I abandoned the idea of using them >>>> when I noticed that they ceased to function the moment the version of >>>> Gnome increased. >>>> >>>>> As for X11 vs Wayland, not quite sure how that fits in the Gnome 3 and Unity >>>>> vs Gnome 2 debate. >>>> >>>> It's not the same debate but a similar one. People hated on Mir simply >>>> because Canonical introduced it. The company is apparently not allowed >>>> to introduce its own technology if the community already developed >>>> something similar. For example, Snap is hated even though it came out >>>> before Flatpak did and is an improvement on AppImage. I'm not a fan of >>>> Snap myself (I prefer Flatpak because of the software library and how it >>>> updates), but I can't say that it's bad. >>> >>> I think the reason that people don't like Snaps is because Canonical made >>> the Snap servers proprietary, under their control. It goes against the whole >>> point of Linux, that it be open source. And I don't agree that Snaps are >>> better than AppImages. I prefer AppImages over both Snaps and Flatpaks. >> >> AppImages benefit from the fact that they can run on any distribution >> with a minimum of modification, but they aren't sandboxed. For that >> reason alone, Flatpak and Snap are both superior to AppImage where >> security is prioritized. If I could only have one, I'd definitely go >> with Flatpak though, not only because of its software selection and >> security benefits but because they perform as well as native packages >> (in my experience). Updating them is also an absolute breeze compared to >> Snap. > > There is a lot of talk about sandboxing. Am I weird for not giving rat's > patootie about it? In nineteen years I've never had any security issues with > Linux. > > In my experience I've had better luck with AppImages than Flatpaks or Snaps. > But I think it all depends on how well they're made. > Its the security mania that those in Software are into. If you could potentially imagine an attack, you must protect against it. You know, potentially, someone could do a random drive by, shoot randomly out of the car, and shoot you in your home. You MUST get bullet proof glass windows! I imagined a potential attack, now we must change everything to protect you. You are stupid for having regular glass! I'm quite security conscious, and I don't care about this level of sandboxing either. I've been using Linux for even longer (damn!) and never had issues either. Maybe if I was a spy, taking my laptop int a hostile area, where state actors would literally kill me for the information I have, yes, perhaps it would be wise. But most people? You need to worry about dodgy patches (CrowdStrike), disgruntled workers (most data leaks), losing your laptop, Russians, your USB key falling out of your pocket, your hard drive dying, or just attaching the wrong file to an email.
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