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| Started by | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-10 17:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-09-14 07:34 -0700 |
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OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:18 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:34 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:26 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:51 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 21:48 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 22:11 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 00:29 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:48 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:20 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 08:38 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 11:05 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:39 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:49 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:52 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:28 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:19 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:00 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:32 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:35 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:18 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:06 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:37 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 06:58 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:49 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:17 -0700
You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-15 00:11 -0700
Re: You're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 00:50 -0700
Hillary is a racist FemiNazi; Trump is a disruptor. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-15 01:54 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:33 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:52 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:27 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 11:49 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:46 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:14 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:04 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:21 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:12 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:06 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 14:59 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:58 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:29 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:57 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:22 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 01:17 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:17 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 16:49 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:26 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 07:29 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:13 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 11:39 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:35 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700
You're a used car salesman, not a scientist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-13 14:11 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:53 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:50 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:23 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:31 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 14:59 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:49 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:33 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:48 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-12 14:59 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 00:23 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-13 11:20 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:20 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 10:30 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-13 07:42 -0500
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:18 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:57 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 17:03 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 04:26 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-13 18:17 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-13 18:12 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:38 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 03:36 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:54 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-14 07:30 -0400
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-09-14 06:00 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:56 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:42 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:16 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 09:53 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:46 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 12:46 -0700
You end up robbing the poor. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-13 14:19 -0700
Re: You end up robbing the poor. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 21:47 -0700
If you order it, then _ you pay for it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-13 21:51 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 12:56 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-13 13:02 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 03:28 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-14 12:33 +0000
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 21:15 -0700
Re: OT: Assad has "given the order" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-14 07:34 -0700
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 07:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6ikkpdp3cr500slij50uuonkfu2tegh5pc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #467001 |
chrisv wrote: >The real point of the article is this: If Trump believes that global >warming is "bullshit", he shouldn't cite global warming and its >consequences as justification for building a sea wall at his golf >club. Responses were deleted, unread. -- 'We get "global warming" every spring and "global cooling" every fall. It must be man-made!' - RonB
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 14:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eXumD.43553$8r2.37110@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #467036 |
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 07:06:02 -0500, chrisv wrote: > chrisv wrote: > >>The real point of the article is this: If Trump believes that global >>warming is "bullshit", he shouldn't cite global warming and its >>consequences as justification for building a sea wall at his golf club. > > Responses were deleted, unread. Which is a shame in my case because I actually agreed with you. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 12:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <E9tmD.43010$OM2.39089@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #467001 |
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:14:05 -0500, chrisv wrote: > The real point of the article is this: If Trump believes that global > warming is "bullshit", he shouldn't cite global warming and its > consequences as justification for building a sea wall at his golf club. I do have to agree with your statement here. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 03:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnf9v7$5ck$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467040 |
On 2018-09-13, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:14:05 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> The real point of the article is this: If Trump believes that global >> warming is "bullshit", he shouldn't cite global warming and its >> consequences as justification for building a sea wall at his golf club. > > I do have to agree with your statement here. Although, as mentioned in another post, it's doubtful that Trump (himself) wrote out this application. But he is a lying hypocrite, so I guess it's possible. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-09-12 14:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pnbonc$b1e$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466995 |
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> RonB wrote: >> >>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the asses >>>>> of those who yank his chain. >>>> >>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a few >>>> errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle East, it >>>> sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>> >>>What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses the >>>bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? He sounds >>>"mostly sleazy" to me. >> >> And there's stuff like this: >> >> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436 >> >> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. > > Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and > coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard > Ben Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way > of his lying agenda. Learn some statistics, man. The evidence is overwhelming. Even such liberal rags as Physics Today bring up the evidence in a least one article per weekly issue. Read some Nature. Read some Science. Read some National Geographic. Available on your newstand. Read some Scientific American. Available on your newstand. And they even claim some evidence that our other kinds of pollution may retard global warming: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/ Pull the earplugs out, man. -- Do something unusual today. Pay a bill.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 00:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pncakg$641$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467004 |
On 2018-09-12, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> RonB wrote: >>> >>>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the asses >>>>>> of those who yank his chain. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a few >>>>> errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle East, it >>>>> sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>>> >>>>What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses the >>>>bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? He sounds >>>>"mostly sleazy" to me. >>> >>> And there's stuff like this: >>> >>> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436 >>> >>> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. >> >> Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and >> coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard >> Ben Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way >> of his lying agenda. > > Learn some statistics, man. The evidence is overwhelming. Even such > liberal rags as Physics Today bring up the evidence in a least one article > per weekly issue. > > Read some Nature. > > Read some Science. > > Read some National Geographic. Available on your newstand. > > Read some Scientific American. Available on your newstand. And they even > claim some evidence that our other kinds of pollution may retard global > warming: > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/ > > Pull the earplugs out, man. I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. They're there to push an agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 01:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lkz9b903ga.ph9u3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #467027 |
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2018-09-12, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the asses >>>>>>> of those who yank his chain. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a few >>>>>> errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle East, it >>>>>> sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>>>> >>>>>What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses the >>>>>bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? He sounds >>>>>"mostly sleazy" to me. >>>> >>>> And there's stuff like this: >>>> >>>> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436 >>>> >>>> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. >>> >>> Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and >>> coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard >>> Ben Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way >>> of his lying agenda. >> >> Learn some statistics, man. The evidence is overwhelming. Even such >> liberal rags as Physics Today bring up the evidence in a least one article >> per weekly issue. >> >> Read some Nature. >> >> Read some Science. >> >> Read some National Geographic. Available on your newstand. >> >> Read some Scientific American. Available on your newstand. And they even >> claim some evidence that our other kinds of pollution may retard global >> warming: >> >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/ >> >> Pull the earplugs out, man. > > I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. They're there to push an > agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. > Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. > https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/americans-finally-have-access-american-propaganda/313305/ <quote> A law went into effect this month that ends the ban on U.S. government-made propaganda from being broadcast to Americans. In a remarkably creative spin, the supporters of this law say that allowing Americans to see American propaganda is actually a victory for transparency. </quote> Thanks, Obama.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 11:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pne078$itb$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467031 |
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > > https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/americans-finally-have-access-american-propaganda/313305/ > <quote> > A law went into effect this month that ends the ban on > U.S. government-made propaganda from being broadcast to Americans. In > a remarkably creative spin, the supporters of this law say that > allowing Americans to see American propaganda is actually a victory > for transparency. > </quote> > > Thanks, Obama. Did you read the article? -- Q: What does a WASP Mom make for dinner? A: A crisp salad, a hearty soup, a lovely entree, followed by a delicious dessert.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 16:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s0abnab.3i@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #467054 |
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/americans-finally-have-access-american-propaganda/313305/ >> <quote> >> A law went into effect this month that ends the ban on >> U.S. government-made propaganda from being broadcast to Americans. In >> a remarkably creative spin, the supporters of this law say that >> allowing Americans to see American propaganda is actually a victory >> for transparency. >> </quote> >> >> Thanks, Obama. > > Did you read the article? > Yes. Did you?
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 07:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <png72g$i2h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467064 |
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> >>> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/americans-finally-have-access-american-propaganda/313305/ >>> <quote> >>> A law went into effect this month that ends the ban on >>> U.S. government-made propaganda from being broadcast to Americans. In >>> a remarkably creative spin, the supporters of this law say that >>> allowing Americans to see American propaganda is actually a victory >>> for transparency. >>> </quote> >>> >>> Thanks, Obama. >> >> Did you read the article? > > Yes. Did you? Yes. It's the authors choice to air the word "propaganda". Update: Weil strongly disputes that the Broadcasting Board of Governors programs are propaganda; she maintains its outlets "present fair and accurate news" (as she told Foreign Policy) and it employs many people who've worked as independent journalists to produce, as the official history of Radio Free Liberty and Radio Liberty reads, "a professional substitute for the free media" in countries where citizens wouldn't otherwise get them. In a statement to The Atlantic Wire, Weil writes, "The professional journalists supported by the BBG are tasked with presenting accurate and objective news and information for audiences in many countries where it is difficult or impossible to receive locally-produced, uncensored or unbiased programs. They provide responsible discussion and open debate in places where this is rare in the media. To call these efforts ‘propaganda’ is a misuse of the term and an affront to our journalists, many of whom put themselves at great risk for this work." -- Go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. -- J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 07:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7p9npd95limavlibjqfm7kegdsrat3vjsm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #467125 |
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> Did you read the article? >> >> Yes. Did you? > >Yes. It's the authors choice to air the word "propaganda". > > Update: Weil strongly disputes that the Broadcasting Board of Governors > programs are propaganda; she maintains its outlets "present fair and > accurate news" (as she told Foreign Policy) and it employs many people > who've worked as independent journalists to produce, as the official > history of Radio Free Liberty and Radio Liberty reads, "a professional > substitute for the free media" in countries where citizens wouldn't > otherwise get them. > > In a statement to The Atlantic Wire, Weil writes, "The professional > journalists supported by the BBG are tasked with presenting accurate and > objective news and information for audiences in many countries where it > is difficult or impossible to receive locally-produced, uncensored or > unbiased programs. They provide responsible discussion and open debate in > places where this is rare in the media. To call these efforts > ‘propaganda’ is a misuse of the term and an affront to our journalists, > many of whom put themselves at great risk for this work." You gotta "love" this line, at the beginning of the article: "In a remarkably creative spin, the supporters of this law say that allowing Americans to see American propaganda is actually a victory for transparency." Err... It is a victory for transparency! Sheesh! Even if the VoA is biased, *banning* the broadcasts of it in the US is censorship! *Real* censorship, unlike what filthy, freedom-hating bastards *lie*, in order to attack their moral and intellectual superiors, the cola advocates. -- Advocate: Using a killfile is censorship? "Hadron" Quack: What else would you call it?
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 11:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pne00a$itb$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467027 |
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> Read some Nature. >> Read some Science. >> Read some National Geographic. >> Read some Scientific American. > > I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. They're there to push an > agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. Who knows? Did you get your Ph.D. in a scientific field? > Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. Wow. -- Behold, the fool saith, "Put not all thine eggs in the one basket"--which is but a manner of saying, "Scatter your money and your attention;" but the wise man saith, "Put all your eggs in the one basket and--WATCH THAT BASKET." -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 11:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ek4lpd5231hqtg0f2hjadqudicffac2da7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #467053 |
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >>> Read some Nature. >>> Read some Science. >>> Read some National Geographic. >>> Read some Scientific American. >> >> I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. Wow. >> They're there to push an >> agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. > >Who knows? Did you get your Ph.D. in a scientific field? > >> Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. > >Wow. -- "Another lie. As usual the linux vermin are in damage control mode." - some piece of shit that calls itself "GreyCloud"
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 03:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnfa9v$5ck$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467060 |
On 2018-09-13, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>>> Read some Nature. >>>> Read some Science. >>>> Read some National Geographic. >>>> Read some Scientific American. >>> >>> I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. > > Wow. At least reach for something more original next time. Maybe "wowsers." >>> They're there to push an >>> agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. >> >>Who knows? Did you get your Ph.D. in a scientific field? >> >>> Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. >> >>Wow. > -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 03:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnfa89$5ck$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467053 |
On 2018-09-13, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >>> Read some Nature. >>> Read some Science. >>> Read some National Geographic. >>> Read some Scientific American. >> >> I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. They're there to push an >> agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. > > Who knows? Did you get your Ph.D. in a scientific field? > >> Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. > > Wow. The truth is powerful, isn't it? -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 10:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvvl4jFtbl8U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #467027 |
On 9/12/18 5:22 PM, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-12, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the asses >>>>>>> of those who yank his chain. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a few >>>>>> errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle East, it >>>>>> sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>>>> >>>>> What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses the >>>>> bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? He sounds >>>>> "mostly sleazy" to me. >>>> >>>> And there's stuff like this: >>>> >>>> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436 >>>> >>>> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. >>> >>> Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and >>> coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard >>> Ben Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way >>> of his lying agenda. >> >> Learn some statistics, man. The evidence is overwhelming. Even such >> liberal rags as Physics Today bring up the evidence in a least one article >> per weekly issue. >> >> Read some Nature. >> >> Read some Science. >> >> Read some National Geographic. Available on your newstand. >> >> Read some Scientific American. Available on your newstand. And they even >> claim some evidence that our other kinds of pollution may retard global >> warming: >> >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/ >> >> Pull the earplugs out, man. > > I don't read these lying, bullshit rags. Sorry. They're there to push an > agenda. I'm guessing I've read more books on science than you have. > Parroting bullshit from vapid writers of newspaper articles doesn't count. > Does not matter what you have read... you deny evidence. And reason. You push nonsense hoaxer crap. That is simply a fact. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 14:11 -0700 |
| Subject | You're a used car salesman, not a scientist. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.13--2.11pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #467069 |
Looking in the mirror, BotBoy wrote: > you deny evidence. And reason. Exactly ! When you show only one side, you're biased, like a used car salesman, not a scientist. 4.5 billion years ago, the surface of earth was molten. 33 million years ago, the poles were tropical, not icy. Maximal consumption has been programmed into us ( by nature ). Ways to do it: 1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast. 2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume longer ). 3. Sacrifice yourself for the tribe, so they can consume more, longer. Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume. We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 12:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j5tmD.42954$OM2.29016@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #466995 |
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:12 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> RonB wrote: >> >>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the >>>>> asses of those who yank his chain. >>>> >>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a >>>> few errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle >>>> East, it sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>> >>>What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses >>>the bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? >>>He sounds "mostly sleazy" to me. >> >> And there's stuff like this: >> >> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change- golf-course-223436 >> >> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. > > Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and > coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard Ben > Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way > of his lying agenda. > > Nuff said. I know that I don't know when it comes to climate change, but I also know that the science behind it, so far, is clearly not objective. They seem to have asked hundreds of scientists their opinion and only kept the testimonials of the Snits among them to state that 97%, or whatever the number was, agree with the consensus that we're destroying the environment. I DO believe that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere is bad, but mostly for our lungs. I'm not personally sure how much it does to actually warm the world. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-13 12:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvvtc9FicrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #467038 |
On 9/13/18 5:53 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:12 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> RonB wrote: >>> >>>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the >>>>>> asses of those who yank his chain. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a >>>>> few errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle >>>>> East, it sounds to me like it's more of the same. >>>> >>>> What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses >>>> the bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses? >>>> He sounds "mostly sleazy" to me. >>> >>> And there's stuff like this: >>> >>> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change- > golf-course-223436 >>> >>> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump. >> >> Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and >> coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard Ben >> Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way >> of his lying agenda. >> >> Nuff said. > > I know that I don't know when it comes to climate change, but I also know > that the science behind it, so far, is clearly not objective. You will ALWAYS find biases in different researchers... but if anything, the desire would be to disprove the consensus. If someone could do that -- showing a model that better fits the data -- they would be wealthy and famous. > They seem > to have asked hundreds of scientists their opinion and only kept the > testimonials of the Snits among them to state that 97%, or whatever the > number was, agree with the consensus that we're destroying the > environment. You can twist things as you wish... in the end you are simply denying science for the benefit of the wealthy. > I DO believe that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere is bad, but mostly > for our lungs. I'm not personally sure how much it does to actually warm > the world. Why don't you go to ANY scientific site which discusses the topic and educate yourself on at least the basics? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 03:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnf9ip$5ck$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467038 |
On 2018-09-13, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:46:12 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> As for Trump, he's just another sleazy politician who kisses the
>>>>>> asses of those who yank his chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to hope that he is going to go down as mostly good with a
>>>>> few errors along the way but if he is going to war in the Middle
>>>>> East, it sounds to me like it's more of the same.
>>>>
>>>>What's mostly good about a man who runs around on his wives and uses
>>>>the bankruptcy laws to enrich himself while harming small businesses?
>>>>He sounds "mostly sleazy" to me.
>>>
>>> And there's stuff like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-
> golf-course-223436
>>>
>>> Really, it just goes on and on, with Trump.
>>
>> Man-made global warming is bullshit. Shifting tides, sinking land and
>> coastal erosion has been with us for centuries. Lying libtard Ben
>> Schreckinger of Politico knows this — but truth doesn't get in the way
>> of his lying agenda.
>>
>> Nuff said.
>
> I know that I don't know when it comes to climate change, but I also know
> that the science behind it, so far, is clearly not objective. They seem
> to have asked hundreds of scientists their opinion and only kept the
> testimonials of the Snits among them to state that 97%, or whatever the
> number was, agree with the consensus that we're destroying the
> environment.
>
> I DO believe that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere is bad, but mostly
> for our lungs. I'm not personally sure how much it does to actually warm
> the world.
It's what they always do when pushing their bullshit propaganda. They claim
the "scientific consensus" is 100% is in their favor — which, of course it
is, if you throw out all the opinions of those who disagree with you and
declare them "non-scientists." It's group"think" ("think" in quotes because
it's really just mass stupidity).
--
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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