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| Started by | Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-12 04:49 -0800 |
| Last post | 2018-11-12 12:53 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 164 — 8 participants |
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Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 04:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 05:11 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 07:42 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:01 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-12 16:19 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:32 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:04 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:17 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:24 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:55 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 21:51 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:02 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:27 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 01:34 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:21 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:58 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 21:35 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:04 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 07:35 -0600
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:00 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 07:17 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:49 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 08:51 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 17:26 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:11 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:38 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:05 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 14:47 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 23:46 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 16:19 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:32 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:54 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 03:56 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 10:52 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:01 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 12:44 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:00 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 13:31 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 00:02 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:43 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 04:12 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:01 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 18:28 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 11:22 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:47 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:07 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 20:29 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:59 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-14 21:44 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 13:53 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 14:18 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 15:07 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 02:03 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 20:01 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 04:17 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 20:42 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 04:58 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 07:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 08:21 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:31 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:00 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:30 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:50 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:04 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:58 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:25 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 13:04 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 20:25 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 11:17 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 08:59 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 13:02 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:42 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 09:51 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 18:01 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:06 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 20:42 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:06 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:31 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:34 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:49 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:04 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:24 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:56 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:11 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:53 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:57 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:17 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:24 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 14:48 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:24 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 18:25 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:31 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-15 23:33 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 15:45 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:02 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:14 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:26 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:43 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:56 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:16 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 01:28 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 21:22 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:55 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:44 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 19:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:24 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 19:42 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 00:48 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 19:54 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:12 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 16:55 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 20:09 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 17:12 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 21:37 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 08:22 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-16 11:49 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 17:28 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 09:29 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 09:04 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 11:55 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 08:53 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 09:50 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 17:08 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 09:53 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 18:11 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 10:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:06 -0600
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 11:09 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 19:33 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 11:35 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 19:43 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-16 19:00 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 17:25 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 09:08 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 19:29 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:01 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:21 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:27 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 13:52 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 14:02 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-16 23:23 +0000
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 08:56 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 10:52 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-16 13:23 -0700
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 11:55 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 13:09 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 10:59 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-15 17:07 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-14 16:43 -0700
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 12:50 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 11:51 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 20:13 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 21:14 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-14 09:51 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 07:23 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 11:19 -0600
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 06:44 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 05:41 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 17:23 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 12:40 -0500
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 09:49 -0800
Re: Sofia is an award winning Ukrainian Rock Star SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-12 12:53 -0500
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 16:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ls8z9b993.ae@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477435 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 9:59:01 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> > >> > (snip) >> > >> >> Jazzter is doing his jazzy "improv" and hits a note that doesn't belong >> >> to the scale. Waitress winces, wondering who raked their fingernails >> >> on the blackboard menu next to the hookah. The crowd goes wild with >> >> snapping fingers. "Daddio, did you hear that superposition? That must >> >> have taken months to work out!" >> > >> > All that... and, now, it's "Jazzter"? LOL! >> > >> > Lots of people like the sounds that come from Jazz without knowing >> > the theory behind them... some of your guitar heroes certainly do. >> > I've taught a number of people to play that think like you do... later, >> > they thank me for making them working on advanced harmonic >> > concepts, which is where lots of good lines come from. If you still >> > play try out what I suggested with that minor penta sub. BTW, I told it >> > to you incorrectly, you want the penta that's a major second down from >> > the root (in this case C is the root so use Bb minor penta). You can use >> > shell voicings for this,in fact, I recommend 'em: >> > >> > <https://imgur.com/a/dZhVqFA> >> > >> > Play Dmi7 and G7 for 4 beats each... then the Cmaj7 for 8 beats >> > (this gives you time to develop a line). If you can tape it to repeat >> > that's the best way. The C major scale works over the whole thing >> > 'cuz they all come from it... but you can play Bb mi penta over all >> > or part of the G7 chord. Try to make the line resolve when you hit >> > the C chord. You'll find that it takes a bit of work and your ear will >> > need to adjust to the sound... but it *will* adjust. >> >> Thanks, but I put the guitar down ten years ago. You've seen that movie >> lord of the rings? I was like that thing Scrotum, or whatever it was, that >> lived in the cave with the ring... "My Precious." I was starting to look >> like that. I can't go back there, as much as it calls... > > I think that call is stronger than you realize... we talked about > guitar all damn day yesterday! > > Elsewhere, you gave me sh*t by writing: > > "I guess you just have to be born with an ear for "good sounds" in > order to be able to distinguish them from jazz." > > I doubt anyone was born with the ability to hear things like the > subs I've been talking about. That I've ever seen, this is always > something which is developed over time. That said, the idea of > tension and release is *so* strong in music, to deny your ear of > many of the coolest examples of it by limiting them to just Jazz > is no longer the case. It's all just harmony... even if you *don't* > play the underlying chords while you play lines that came from > that harmony (which is what Rock/Fusion players do). And you > don't have to grow a goatee, don a beret or snap your fingers > in order to use it ;) > > In any event, if you decide to pick up your axe and try this... > use the shell voicings, not just because they're easier to play > (and you can create a walking bassline easier because of it) > but because it's doesn't pen you in as to what the lines use. > > IOW, you're busy not dictating what the soloist is forced to > play because, as the sole harmonic content (of rhy gtr), you > are avoiding all the alternate tones. Playing only R, 3 and 7 > means you're not playing any sharped or flatted 5ths or 9ths > ... the soloist (also you, in this case) isn't penned in by any > harmony, it's left up to the soloist to 'insinuate' by playing > those sounds. So... if you consider this aspect, even when > jamming with a band on simple blues tunes, where it's pretty > much guaranteed they won't be playing any wild chords, the > soloist can play sounds as if those kinds of altered chords > were played and then 'release' the tension they create back > into the key. C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> Probably more like this: https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 09:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8f7d36e9-ef51-4978-8013-7ecb1f62fdb8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477444 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: (snip) > > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' > > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be > > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: > > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> > > Probably more like this: > https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt LOL! (by the way, do you own an SG?)
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 17:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s9z0b803ag.aue@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477450 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > (snip) >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> >> >> Probably more like this: >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt > > LOL! > > (by the way, do you own an SG?) Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 09:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ec58ff59-3a83-4f2a-bd9a-eb510189146f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477455 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > > > (snip) > >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' > >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be > >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: > >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> > >> > >> Probably more like this: > >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt > > > > LOL! > > > > (by the way, do you own an SG?) > > Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it. Never owned one (I have 2 other Gibsons, though). Ironically, I own the kind of Strat that later became a RB signature model, but mine is actually from that early 70's era; it features that horrendous three bolt system, which I fixed by putting a thin layer of coarse material in between the neck and the body so it prevented that issue. I also stupidly drilled a hole in the front to facilitate Roland's GK-2A PU. I even did that *after* I bought a guitar for that purpose (Midi), I don't know WTF I was thinking <smack heads>.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 18:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f90z0ba.dfk3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477459 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> > >> > (snip) >> >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' >> >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be >> >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> >> >> >> >> Probably more like this: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt >> > >> > LOL! >> > >> > (by the way, do you own an SG?) >> >> Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it. > > Never owned one (I have 2 other Gibsons, though). Ironically, I own > the kind of Strat that later became a RB signature model, but mine > is actually from that early 70's era; it features that horrendous three > bolt system, which I fixed by putting a thin layer of coarse material > in between the neck and the body so it prevented that issue. I also > stupidly drilled a hole in the front to facilitate Roland's GK-2A PU. > I even did that *after* I bought a guitar for that purpose (Midi), I > don't know WTF I was thinking <smack heads>. The SG is a wonderful guitar, but it's very neck-heavy.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 10:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7dd7eb72-ab21-412f-8ef5-38c8e90be21e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477464 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:04:11 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> > > >> > (snip) > >> >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' > >> >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be > >> >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: > >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> > >> >> > >> >> Probably more like this: > >> >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt > >> > > >> > LOL! > >> > > >> > (by the way, do you own an SG?) > >> > >> Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it. > > > > Never owned one (I have 2 other Gibsons, though). Ironically, I own > > the kind of Strat that later became a RB signature model, but mine > > is actually from that early 70's era; it features that horrendous three > > bolt system, which I fixed by putting a thin layer of coarse material > > in between the neck and the body so it prevented that issue. I also > > stupidly drilled a hole in the front to facilitate Roland's GK-2A PU. > > I even did that *after* I bought a guitar for that purpose (Midi), I > > don't know WTF I was thinking <smack heads>. > > The SG is a wonderful guitar, but it's very neck-heavy. Was yours a 2 octave, ebony fingerboard one that used a lighter body weight wood (I've heard certain kinds of walnut models were heavier)?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <38zfb.3ghfa3hhu@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477475 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:04:11 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> >> > >> >> > (snip) >> >> >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' >> >> >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be >> >> >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: >> >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> >> >> >> >> >> >> Probably more like this: >> >> >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt >> >> > >> >> > LOL! >> >> > >> >> > (by the way, do you own an SG?) >> >> >> >> Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it. >> > >> > Never owned one (I have 2 other Gibsons, though). Ironically, I own >> > the kind of Strat that later became a RB signature model, but mine >> > is actually from that early 70's era; it features that horrendous three >> > bolt system, which I fixed by putting a thin layer of coarse material >> > in between the neck and the body so it prevented that issue. I also >> > stupidly drilled a hole in the front to facilitate Roland's GK-2A PU. >> > I even did that *after* I bought a guitar for that purpose (Midi), I >> > don't know WTF I was thinking <smack heads>. >> >> The SG is a wonderful guitar, but it's very neck-heavy. > > Was yours a 2 octave, ebony fingerboard one that used a lighter body > weight wood (I've heard certain kinds of walnut models were heavier)? Nah, 22 frets rosewood + mahogany iirc. Brown finish like the one in the Scrotum image. To get an idea of the weight distribution, think of a Les Paul Standard with 2/3 the body planed of. Body is really thin and the neck is thick.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 13:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1a393287-4dfc-49d1-8aba-44c11ed69eda@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477497 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:04:11 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:31:03 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > (snip) > >> >> >> > C'mon, Scrotum, you have one last 'adventure' > >> >> >> > left in you... but be prepared, you and your wife may be > >> >> >> > transformed... while you don't *have* to, it could happen: > >> >> >> > <https://imgur.com/a/6e6bhUJ> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Probably more like this: > >> >> >> https://imgur.com/a/2ZifQHt > >> >> > > >> >> > LOL! > >> >> > > >> >> > (by the way, do you own an SG?) > >> >> > >> >> Gave it back to Satan^H^H^H^Hsold it. > >> > > >> > Never owned one (I have 2 other Gibsons, though). Ironically, I own > >> > the kind of Strat that later became a RB signature model, but mine > >> > is actually from that early 70's era; it features that horrendous three > >> > bolt system, which I fixed by putting a thin layer of coarse material > >> > in between the neck and the body so it prevented that issue. I also > >> > stupidly drilled a hole in the front to facilitate Roland's GK-2A PU. > >> > I even did that *after* I bought a guitar for that purpose (Midi), I > >> > don't know WTF I was thinking <smack heads>. > >> > >> The SG is a wonderful guitar, but it's very neck-heavy. > > > > Was yours a 2 octave, ebony fingerboard one that used a lighter body > > weight wood (I've heard certain kinds of walnut models were heavier)? > > Nah, 22 frets rosewood + mahogany iirc. Brown finish like the one > in the Scrotum image. To get an idea of the weight distribution, > think of a Les Paul Standard with 2/3 the body planed of. Body is > really thin and the neck is thick. HA! How did Steve 'The Moron' Petruzzellis get _so_ vainglorious he concludes everything is about himself?? Slimer owns Steve 'The Moron' Petruzzellis in every way possible. It was Steve 'The Moron' Petruzzellis who got busted using lots of puppets for years, and these are 'people' who come literally out of the blue directly into threads where he was being ripped apart... nonstop for over a decade. Proof Sandman accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png. - This Trick Gets Women Hot For You http://www.5z8.info/myspace-of-sex_q7q7zl_instant-purchase https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/BVpdH5KOc6s https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.c/KDQrv8appR8 Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-14 20:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2ac5f0ec-0652-4f8d-9d93-ef70794445e7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477372 |
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 9:02:02 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 7:03:15 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 3:18:15 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:44:05 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> > >> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:29:06 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >> I can be listening to Satriani and not even know it's Satriani.
> > >> > >> It could be any of a hundred other shredders. That's never the case with
> > >> > >> Blackmore. It only takes a few seconds of listening to know it's him.
> > >> > >> That's greatness. That's soul.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That could be (I would submit that it is) due to the fact that you're
> > >> > > more familiar with RB than you are with JS.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > No, I mean even with his stuff I've not heard before.
> > >> > As an example, when this song came out, I did not recognize it
> > >> > was Rainbow, because of the new lead singer. But even with the
> > >> > very opening riffs I suspected it was Blackmore, and by the time
> > >> > it got to this solo, I knew:
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hByGwgm_vRs&t=2m44s
> > >> >
> > >> > He has a distinctive touch and phrasing that's just like nobody else.
> > >>
> > >> So... you're now arguing that if you *weren't* familiar with RB's
> > >> "distinctive touch and phrasing" you'd *still* have recognized
> > >> it was *his* (well, that *is* what you just argued)?
> > >>
> > >> We're down to Snit level now, aren't we ;)
> > >
> >
> > I think you must be, since that is exactly *not* what I was arguing.
>
> Sure it wasn't... and any minute now you're going to explain how you
> were able to "recognize" Blackmore's "distinctive touch and phrasing"
> *without* previously being familiar with his playing, I just know you will ;)
>
> (are you reading what you write?!)
>
> > > I think the comments tell a lot of the story surrounding Blackmore:
> > >
> > > "There's something about this solo that makes it stand out amongst
> > > all the other magnificent solos Ritchie composed."
> > >
> > > "best blackmore solo and great singing by Joe lynn Turner"
> > >
> > > "Ritchie Blackmore with one of the best guitar solos ever"
> > >
> > > "Best Blackmore guitar solo, i don't care what anyone says"
> > >
> > > "One of the most brilliant guitar solos ever recorded."
> > >
> > > <shaking head in disbelief>
> > >
> > > Here's a cover tune at a tad faster tempo. This guitar solo is
> > > 'tasty as f*ck'
> >
> > "Tasty." Did you get that from a Jeff Beck interview?
> >
> > > on a level that RB never played on, the break
> > > around 1:52 features the kind of line he could only dream of:
> > >
> > > <https://youtu.be/pp4FYru7uO4?t=90>
> >
> > OMG. There is nothing special about that at all.
>
> Where is an example of RB creating a line with that contour to it?
> He doesn't create those kinds of lines, his lines are usually more
> scalar in nature.
>
> > That "he could only dream of." LOL! You jazzsters
>
> I'm not a 'jazzster' ('jazzer').
>
> > think that your chosen noise patterns are
> > so difficult. Ooh, check him playing those changes and improv'ing aroud
> > those chords. As if there is something magical about sweep picking and
> > arpeggiating the intervals of a chord.
>
> If you listened to the Gambale example I gave you *and* understood
> what you were hearing, you'd know that's not descriptive of what's up.
> There's a concept which is comparatively absent from RB's playing
> known as chord superimposition. Example, take a II-V-I in the key of C.
> The V chord is G7, the notes of that chord are G,B,D and F, right? Ok...
> RB might play B minor flat 5 arps or maybe even dim arps if he's
> feeling particularly frisky... but you won't hear him yank in stuff from
> farther outside of the key. You won't hear him play arps built off a D
> flat lydian dominant scale (which is built off a melodic minor). Why?
> Because tritone subs are just not a part of his playing experience.
>
> You won't even hear him remove a couple of notes off that and play
> a stock minor pentatonic scale a minor 3rd away from the home key
> over that V chord for the exact same reason, he's just not aware of
> the existence of it. Now... is RB gonna run into a II-V-I in the music
> he plays? No... but in any rock based progression that uses I-IV-V
> he *can* play these subs *as if* the chords *were* played, if done in
> certain spots in the progression (which don't last long, time-wise).
> Trust me, you have *never* heard him do this or anything similar.
>
> > If you know the chord, you can play around it.
>
> You're missing it, RB doesn't possess the harmonic knowledge to
> "play around it" the way "jazzers" do. Robben Ford is not really a
> "jazzer", either... but he understands the harmony and possesses
> some solid substitution knowledge.
>
> > It's not rocket science. If you know the chord, you
> > know its various forms around the fretboard.
>
> Dude... you're *so* far from the mark you don't realize how far.
>
> > No, I hate to break it to
> > you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is
> > not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced
> > to also *hear* it, something few people want to do.
>
> Sure <eyeroll>, but... for some reason, the very best of the guys you
> point to, they list "jazzers" as their influences. You're making no sense,
> you realize that, right? These guys learn a lick from a "jazzer" and then
> figure out where they can use it... the "jazzers" create an *endless*
> stream of these ideas (that the Rockers steal as 'a lick' so they can
> stand out amongst other Rockers). We're talking about a *world* of
> difference here.
>
> > How do you figure
> > that playing jazz lead going to be too difficult for some neo-classical
> > shredder who is used to blending bits of Paganini into his solos?
>
> I don't figure it, I know it... and... it's extremely evident because *very*
> few ever show even the slightest ability in that direction. Playing some
> "bits of Paganini" is like an exercise, the "jazzers" are improvising on a
> level Rock players aren't capable of because they don't know that part
> of the harmonic language to nearly the same degree. They'll generally
> learn harmonic/melodic minor scales and play arps on it or run it fast.
> The idea of playing *through* changes while using those scales only in
> the appropriate time slot (often only a second or so) and *still* making
> it sound like music is *extremely* difficult, especially at a fast tempo.
>
> The above is just not something Rock players work on, it has no place
> in the music they play. It's a mighty convenient argument to claim that
> no one wants to hear 'that' music, no one wants to play it. The reality
> is Rockers utilize a tiny segment of the available harmonic knowledge
> they glean from the "jazzers" because it's a *lot* of work to think in
> terms of subs like I'm talking about. Joe understands *far* more
> than someone like RB and it comes out in his playing but you don't
> hear it because you don't listen to him as closely as you do RB... or...
> maybe you're not really listening that closely to RB and you're like
> one of his fans who left those comments <shrug>... I dunno.
>
> <https://sldargento.wordpress.com/tag/joe-satriani-scales/>
>
> The ol' saw about 'We'll, we're Rockers, we don't need all that theory
> crap, we just play what we feel', is dead, been dead for decades. It's
> not about snobbery, it's about musicianship. RB knows this, that's why
> he should be shutting the fuck up, he knows what his failings are and,
> as Govan pointed out, he makes it obvious based on the people he
> disses. RB can play fast, but not soulful like Hendrix or SRV. Joe plays
> even faster than RB, which gnaws at him... but Joe also plays with a
> harmonic sense RB can't touch... and RB knows it. Worse, that Joe
> plays virtually flawlessly drives RB to make stupid statements like
> "he's too polished".
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 11:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <P%gHD.315381$hA.169938@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #477363 |
On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: > No, I hate to break it to > you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is > not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced > to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. LOL! Exactly. The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out when they succumb to the depressing music.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 08:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <00fba8a0-d270-4e84-ae2c-6470ed8b1d25@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477441 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote: > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: > > > No, I hate to break it to > > you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is > > not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced > > to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. > > > LOL! Exactly. Exactly nothing. Why do so many of the best Rock players cite Jazz players as influences? Yeah... that's a tough one, isn't it? > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out > when they succumb to the depressing music. You're not listening, I'm *not* talking about Jazz "music", I'm talking about utilizing sounds based on harmonic concepts Jazz pioneered. You 2 keep yammering on about "jazz" but you're missing this point. It's about tension and release in music and how Jazz expanded it. Some tension/release examples over a funky vamp: 1 - <https://youtu.be/X_y-EIJ70JQ?t=60> 2 - <https://youtu.be/X_y-EIJ70JQ?t=209> 3 - <https://youtu.be/X_y-EIJ70JQ?t=283> 4 - <https://youtu.be/X_y-EIJ70JQ?t=357> 5 - <https://youtu.be/X_y-EIJ70JQ?t=473> At one point he states: "If any of these licks do not speak to you, you didn't like them, then don't spend time on them" I would disagree with that, the stuff he's playing here is a solid basis for ear training, for that reason alone I would spend time on them. Do those outside sounds make this "jazz"? Should Rock players avoid all of those ideas in your opinion simply because they come from the Jazz world? Are none of those sounds a little more 'interesting' to your ears than a lot of stuff you hear on YT, that just regurgitates the same old sh*t, trying to play it ever faster?
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 13:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <%viHD.390981$wV2.189236@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #477449 |
On 11/15/2018 11:59 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote: >> On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: >> >>> No, I hate to break it to >>> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is >>> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced >>> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. >> >> >> LOL! Exactly. > > Exactly nothing. Exactly what owl said. How can you actually enjoy jazz 'music' once you've heard it? > Why do so many of the best Rock players cite Jazz players as influences? Drugs. >> The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a >> rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out >> when they succumb to the depressing music. > > You're not listening, I'm *not* talking about Jazz "music", I'm talking > about utilizing sounds based on harmonic concepts Jazz pioneered. > You 2 keep yammering on about "jazz" but you're missing this point. Don't get so butthurt; at least jazz is a little better than (c)rap music. So there's that...
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 17:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9xb8b03ga.ay@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477441 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: > >> No, I hate to break it to >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. > > > LOL! Exactly. > > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out > when they succumb to the depressing music. > If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 09:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <80c1f665-378f-4dec-b398-146e5aa59113@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477457 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: > > > >> No, I hate to break it to > >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is > >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced > >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. > > > > > > LOL! Exactly. > > > > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a > > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out > > when they succumb to the depressing music. > > > > If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player. LOL! F*ck you both. Here's a tangentially related question: Is there any 'art' to programming?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 18:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lszb0b803ga.hgu@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477460 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: >> > >> >> No, I hate to break it to >> >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is >> >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced >> >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. >> > >> > >> > LOL! Exactly. >> > >> > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a >> > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out >> > when they succumb to the depressing music. >> > >> >> If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player. > > LOL! F*ck you both. Here's a tangentially related question: > Is there any 'art' to programming? https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410H2IHR3vL._AC_US218_.jpg
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 10:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e43cb24c-7800-4ed9-8f64-bcb1d303ee11@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477462 |
On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: > >> > > >> >> No, I hate to break it to > >> >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is > >> >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced > >> >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. > >> > > >> > > >> > LOL! Exactly. > >> > > >> > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a > >> > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out > >> > when they succumb to the depressing music. > >> > > >> > >> If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player. > > > > LOL! F*ck you both. Here's a tangentially related question: > > Is there any 'art' to programming? > > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410H2IHR3vL._AC_US218_.jpg I'll take that as a yes... and we know it requires 'languages'. We know music is an art. Do you recognize music as a "language"?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 20:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9z8b99g3ag.gior4@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477465 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> > On 11/14/2018 9:03 PM, owl wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> No, I hate to break it to >> >> >> you, but the reason these shredders from other genres don't play jazz is >> >> >> not because it's too hard, but because while playing it they are forced >> >> >> to also *hear* it, something few people want to do. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > LOL! Exactly. >> >> > >> >> > The reason jazz people sit in open windows and play saxophones (on a >> >> > rainy night with neon signs nearby) is so they can easily tumble out >> >> > when they succumb to the depressing music. >> >> > >> >> >> >> If they time it just right, the can land on a trumpet player. >> > >> > LOL! F*ck you both. Here's a tangentially related question: >> > Is there any 'art' to programming? >> >> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410H2IHR3vL._AC_US218_.jpg > > I'll take that as a yes... and we know it requires 'languages'. > We know music is an art. Do you recognize music as a "language"? Yes. It's the language of *emotion*. Which is why I just don't get jazz. With other genres, you make an instant emotional connection with the music. With jazz, apparently you need a Rosetta Stone and a magnifying glass to find it. Here is just a random sample of assorted tunes that burst with emotion. Note that there is no need to get out a slide rule to explain it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDVObM1kxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF9Q3hnAr88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up06CryWQpE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GUrcEx7Guw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnkCIwGwiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnkCIwGwiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJefPaBsSug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKQtWMETbfo And on and on and on for literally thousands of other examples. Where is the one jazz song that even comes close to expressing *any* emotion? I could give a rat's ass how complex a song is or how hard it is to play. I want a song to grab me by the gut and squeeze hard.
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 17:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <P6mHD.385253$vJ1.261385@fx05.iad> |
| In reply to | #477501 |
On 11/15/2018 3:42 PM, owl wrote: > And on and on and on for literally thousands of other examples. > Where is the one jazz song that even comes close to expressing > *any* emotion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs The ONLY jazz song I like.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 22:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ppz9b003ga.ear@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #477512 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/15/2018 3:42 PM, owl wrote: > > >> And on and on and on for literally thousands of other examples. >> Where is the one jazz song that even comes close to expressing >> *any* emotion? > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs > > The ONLY jazz song I like. Somebody open the window. Looks like rain.
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 17:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8wmHD.881985$LK2.748199@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #477520 |
On 11/15/2018 5:31 PM, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> On 11/15/2018 3:42 PM, owl wrote: >> >> >>> And on and on and on for literally thousands of other examples. >>> Where is the one jazz song that even comes close to expressing >>> *any* emotion? >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs >> >> The ONLY jazz song I like. > > Somebody open the window. Looks like rain. The sax and piano in that tune are awesome.
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