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  Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 12:57 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 08:16 -0500
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 08:45 -0500
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-09 13:52 +0000
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 09:53 -0500
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-09 21:09 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:50 +0000
          Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 12:01 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 07:09 -0500
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 13:44 -0600
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 20:30 +0000
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 16:01 -0600
                  Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 22:23 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:05 -0500
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-09 20:59 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 00:09 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:58 -0600
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:01 -0500
          Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:26 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-10 20:39 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:31 -0500
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 19:24 -0600
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 11:08 +0000
                  Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 13:31 -0600
                    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 20:13 +0000
                      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 15:14 -0600
                        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 22:07 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 02:51 +0000
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:03 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:54 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:44 -0600
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:43 +0000

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#683648

On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> 
> Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six 
> days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice 
> switch.
>

Can't you afford a fucking generator?

An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

No mudslides, hurricanes, earthquakes, or tornadoes could destroy
a house as quickly as several tons of "hardcopy" books.




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#683658

Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six 
>> days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice 
>> switch.
>
> Can't you afford a fucking generator?
>
> An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
> would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

The books are required *serially*.

> No mudslides, hurricanes, earthquakes, or tornadoes could destroy
> a house as quickly as several tons of "hardcopy" books.

Whatever. I don't need a ton of hardcover books. Just a few key ones that I
count on fairly often (Linux, C++ mainly).

When I was a teenager I had a bookshelf full of books. As I moved from place to
place I pared the number down substantially.

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#683677

On 1/10/25 2:39 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
>> days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
>> switch.
>>
> 
> Can't you afford a fucking generator?
> 
> An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
> would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."
> 
> No mudslides, hurricanes, earthquakes, or tornadoes could destroy
> a house as quickly as several tons of "hardcopy" books.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Some types of books must be in hardcopy. Math books. Physics books. 
Computer programming books. Grammar books. It has to do with what you do 
with it.

I do a lot with a hardcopy book that enriches it and turns it into an 
extremely useful and fast reference. The electronic forms lack that 
feature. And the four types I mentioned, are just the ones that require 
such treatment.

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#683702

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:24:07 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


> 
> Some types of books must be in hardcopy. Math books. Physics books. 
> Computer programming books. Grammar books. It has to do with what you do 
> with it.
> 

Why?  What do you do with them?

Decent PDF, or other ebook, software should allow the addition
of notes, comments, attachments, and a lot of other stuff directly
into the e-file.  In fact, one could add huge amounts of commentary
to an e-book, commentary that would normally be hidden but could be
invoked via a popup window, and this is something that could never
be done with a paper book.

Some people will claim that a paper book is more comfortable to read
and this was my conclusion when I first began reading e-books.
But over time I have grown so accustomed to the e-book format that
I actually greatly prefer e-bboks over the paper kind.  

Also, building a library of paper books may be a satisfying accomplishment
but then try relocating to a different home or apartment.  One will
need to hire 100-ton cranes and 18-wheel flatbed trucks to move the
load.


>
> I do a lot with a hardcopy book that enriches it and turns it into an 
> extremely useful and fast reference. The electronic forms lack that 
> feature.
>

See above.

With experience, one can learn to do the same sorts of enrichment to
e-books that would even be more useful and faster.

Paper books, like photographic film and vinyl music recordings, are
dead.  Currently they may be a "walking dead" but it is only a 
matter of time before they collapse completely.

This is the new world, the new age, and the new way.  One must learn
to do everything digitally.





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#683760

On 1/11/25 5:08 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:24:07 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> Some types of books must be in hardcopy. Math books. Physics books.
>> Computer programming books. Grammar books. It has to do with what you do
>> with it.
>>
> 
> Why?  What do you do with them?
> 
> Decent PDF, or other ebook, software should allow the addition
> of notes, comments, attachments, and a lot of other stuff directly
> into the e-file.  In fact, one could add huge amounts of commentary
> to an e-book, commentary that would normally be hidden but could be
> invoked via a popup window, and this is something that could never
> be done with a paper book.
> 
> Some people will claim that a paper book is more comfortable to read
> and this was my conclusion when I first began reading e-books.
> But over time I have grown so accustomed to the e-book format that
> I actually greatly prefer e-bboks over the paper kind.
> 
> Also, building a library of paper books may be a satisfying accomplishment
> but then try relocating to a different home or apartment.  One will
> need to hire 100-ton cranes and 18-wheel flatbed trucks to move the
> load.
> 
> 
>>
>> I do a lot with a hardcopy book that enriches it and turns it into an
>> extremely useful and fast reference. The electronic forms lack that
>> feature.
>>
> 
> See above.
> 
> With experience, one can learn to do the same sorts of enrichment to
> e-books that would even be more useful and faster.
> 
> Paper books, like photographic film and vinyl music recordings, are
> dead.  Currently they may be a "walking dead" but it is only a
> matter of time before they collapse completely.
> 
> This is the new world, the new age, and the new way.  One must learn
> to do everything digitally.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


For one, electronic books chain you to a desktop and from there to your 
electric receptacles on the wall, your house, the electric company, and 
whether you have paid your electric bill or not.

Or in case of a laptop, you're chained to its ability to get charged, 
therefore to those funky power receptacles on them which soon go bad and 
get flaky and useless. I have THREE laptops sitting somewhere, useless, 
that those receptacles went bad on them and after ordering them a few 
times and installing new ones in place the boards themselves began to 
get flaky where those tiny power connection sockets are soldered to it.

Or in case of a smartphone, you're chained to the craziest tiny screen 
designed for teenagers, and gay men to shove them up their asses when 
they get the urge.

The only electronic choice you have is really with the desktop, and it 
may not look like it but it is as big as the whole power grid in your 
region.

Is that clumsier to use, or using a book the size of a book?

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#683765

On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:31:38 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


> 
> For one, electronic books chain you to a desktop and from there to your 
> electric receptacles on the wall, your house, the electric company, and 
> whether you have paid your electric bill or not.
> 

So what?  The desktop is where everything happens in the modern world.
There is no way to escape the desktop. 


> 
> The only electronic choice you have is really with the desktop, and it 
> may not look like it but it is as big as the whole power grid in your 
> region.
> 

If the power grid were to ever fail, permanently, then that would
indicate that civilization itself was failing.  It wouldn't just
be the power grid, but also the natural gas lines, the food supply,
the medical supply, etc., etc.  One would be fucked from all
directions.  There would be no time for books.  All effort would
be directed toward keeping your jealous neighbors from ransacking
you property.

But civilization will not fail.  I have faith that the power will
always be available and I will be comfortable with my e-books at my
desktop.


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#683775

On 1/11/25 2:13 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:31:38 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> For one, electronic books chain you to a desktop and from there to your
>> electric receptacles on the wall, your house, the electric company, and
>> whether you have paid your electric bill or not.
>>
> 
> So what?  The desktop is where everything happens in the modern world.
> There is no way to escape the desktop.
> 
> 
>>
>> The only electronic choice you have is really with the desktop, and it
>> may not look like it but it is as big as the whole power grid in your
>> region.
>>
> 
> If the power grid were to ever fail, permanently, then that would
> indicate that civilization itself was failing.  It wouldn't just
> be the power grid, but also the natural gas lines, the food supply,
> the medical supply, etc., etc.  One would be fucked from all
> directions.  There would be no time for books.  All effort would
> be directed toward keeping your jealous neighbors from ransacking
> you property.
> 
> But civilization will not fail.  I have faith that the power will
> always be available and I will be comfortable with my e-books at my
> desktop.
> 
> 


A hardcopy doesn't have a "display cable" attached to it that goes bad :)

I'm still using my $12 thingy (with no problems whatsoever too) because 
the matter of my main computer isn't resolved yet. Still too soon to 
take the now "late Relf"'s advice.

If the power grid collapses (which may - depends on what a lunatic Trump 
is, and whether cro-magnons' time has come), and as you said, together 
with it, the food supply and security collapses, I bet those huge sized 
pots you always see in Mexican grocery stores become a hot item :)

Hispanics would need to cut a cro-magnon only in three pieces max to 
throw a piece in them and boil them to a perfection in soup. Beating 
even French cuisines. And curiously, you only see those pots in Mexican 
stores :)

Many of my neighbors are Hispanic, and almost all of them have one of 
those large pots sometimes appearing in their yard. They throw a whole 
goat or sheep inside after removing skins and innards, and boil them. 
Then the whole family and friends feast on them. They have to cook them 
outside. Too big for kitchens' facilities.

Blacks, on the other hand, would not need to even cook them. If you ask 
me, they'll devour cro-magnons raw, still warm.

Just south of Mexican border here, every single year, some cro-magnons 
disappear, then a week or two later only their heads are found. Never 
the rest of the body. The heads, often, have chicken legs hammered into 
their ear canals with the paws sticking out on both sides.

Every year!

This world has some rules to it, want it or not. Cro-magnons have broken 
every one of them.

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#683783

On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:14:43 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> 
> Just south of Mexican border here, every single year, some cro-magnons 
> disappear, then a week or two later only their heads are found. Never 
> the rest of the body. The heads, often, have chicken legs hammered into 
> their ear canals with the paws sticking out on both sides.
> 

I dunno, but some of those Hispanic bitches are hot as fuck.

I wish more would come up here, to displace all the pale and
wan white bitches, but the bald-headed, pot-bellied Republicans
are opposed.





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#683681

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:39:30 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
>> days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
>> switch.
>>
>>
> Can't you afford a fucking generator?'

Sure, but why? The stove is gas. I didn't have that much in the 
refrigerator that really needed to be there. I don't have A/C. In July 
it's light until around 10 PM. I had plenty of drinking water. 

> An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that would
> equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

I've probably read tens of thousands of books in my life. I certainly 
don't have to own them. As is, I've got too damn many.

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#683711

Le 11-01-2025, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>
> I've probably read tens of thousands of books in my life.

I don't believe that. It would mean a book each day of your life. It
would mean you do almost nothing else than reading in your life. So, it
would mean being paid to read books. A book a week is something a good
reader could do but it means spending almost all of his spare time
reading. And it's doesn't count in tens of thousands of books, but in
thousands.

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#683709

Le 10-01-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
> would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

You see? You proved, once again, that you don't read book, in your
entire life you would struggle to only read the titles of tens of
thousands of books. Reading them all is impossible. There is no way, you
don't have the time to. It's impressive that each claim you do about
yourself is a proof of your lie.

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#683559

On 1/9/25 6:57 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> Low quality people don't read books.
> 
> Name the book or books that you are currently reading.
> 
> Here's mine:
> 
> "The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
> Dover Publications, 1958
> 
> "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
> Chapman and Hall, 2019
> 
> Now list yours.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>    
> Don't go away mad, just go away.
> 
> 


  1-  جشنها، آداب، و معتقدات زمستان، جلد دوم، استانهای آذربایجان و همدان 
نویسنده: سید ابوالقاسم انجوی شیرازی، ۲۰۰۰

Finished the first volume late December. I read this in bed before 
falling asleep.

2- جغرافیای تاریخی شمیران، جلد اول. نویسنده: دکتر منوچهر ستوده، ۱۹۹۲

I read that mostly when sitting around the wood stove relaxing. I 
haven't found the second volume yet.


3-   ادب و اخلاق در ایران پیش از اسلام، نویسنده: دکتر محمد محمدی، ۱۹۷۳

I read that also around the wood stove. It has two versions, one the 
original which is backed with documents and papers, and the other 
written for young adults, or the "laymen" which is just the gist of the 
matter. I'm reading both because the scientific one is often times 
beyond my means and background.

4- : Georg Reimann ورزش طبی، رمز تندرستی و تناسب اندام، نویسنده (first 
printing, early 1950s, translated from German in 1930s)

A Pilates book. I read it everyday for Pilates workout. Sometimes twice 
a day, but at least once a day.

5- I am a strange loop, by Douglas Hofstadter, 2011.

I started this recently. I read it also in bed before falling asleep. 
The stuff he discusses, when you try to pay attention closely, does make 
one sleepy and helps you go to sleep. The book is not about sleep. Hehe :)

5- And several reference material of all types of course which I read 
only on demand.


What the others here read? My educated guess: Penis X.

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#683706

Le 09-01-2025, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> a écrit :
> Low quality people don't read books.

I already knew you don't read books.

> Here's mine:
>
> "The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
> Dover Publications, 1958
>
> "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
> Chapman and Hall, 2019

I don't believe that. Maybe you found them, but you don't read them.
Just turning the pages isn't reading. You just can't understand them.

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