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Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

Started byDistro Lackey <dl@lackey.com>
First post2026-06-22 13:14 +0000
Last post2026-06-27 15:17 +0000
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  Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-22 13:14 +0000
    Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 11:39 -0400
      Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-22 19:57 +0200
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 14:01 -0400
          OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-06-22 13:05 -0500
            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 14:22 -0400
              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:44 +0000
                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:52 -0400
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:24 -0500
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Sgt. Joe Friday" <sgtjf1965@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:12 -0400
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:53 +0000
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 19:54 -0400
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:30 -0400
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:43 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:38 +0200
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:58 +0100
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 12:06 +0200
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:22 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:33 +0200
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 23:37 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-23 00:43 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 20:48 -0400
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:54 +0000
            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:43 +0000
              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 18:46 -0400
                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 22:55 +0000
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:30 -0400
                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 04:20 +0100
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:25 -0400
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 05:20 +0000
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:28 -0400
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:09 +0000
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 03:21 -0400
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:23 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 14:55 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:39 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:56 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:34 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:47 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-24 21:21 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-06-25 02:02 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 20:53 -0400
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 02:21 +0000
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:45 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:14 -0400
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:30 +0100
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-26 18:59 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:34 +0100
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:22 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:53 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:36 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:00 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:39 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:11 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:50 +0200
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:26 +0100
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:37 +0000
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 17:26 +0100
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:52 +0000
                                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:53 +0100
                                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 06:39 +0000
                                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 08:50 +0100
                                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 14:50 +0000
                                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 19:38 +0100
                                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 05:08 +0000
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Tim" <nosuchemail@quirkl.org> - 2026-06-23 19:59 +0000
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Sgt. Joe Friday" <sgtjf1965@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-23 19:08 -0400
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Glock <glock@localhost.com> - 2026-06-24 00:13 +0000
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:24 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2026-06-25 00:27 +0000
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 20:34 -0400
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2026-06-25 01:20 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 22:12 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Tim" <nosuchemail@quirkl.org> - 2026-06-25 02:42 +0000
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 22:46 -0400
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:33 +0100
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:05 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:08 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 03:38 +0000
                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:29 +0100
                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 07:08 +0000
                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:33 +0100
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:45 +0200
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 11:01 +0100
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 12:24 -0400
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 19:03 +0200
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 15:08 -0500
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 22:26 +0200
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:43 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-23 15:44 -0500
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-23 21:03 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-24 16:25 -0500
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 22:07 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:51 -0400
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:50 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 02:24 +0000
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 05:51 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:44 +0100
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:03 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 14:55 -0400
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 21:55 +0100
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 19:40 -0400
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-25 10:23 +0100
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:42 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 21:54 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:14 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-24 14:59 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 05:49 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 07:31 -0400
                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 18:23 +0000
                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:54 +0100
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 01:35 +0000
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:53 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:42 +0000
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Kevin Kay <KevinkAmAn0o@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:12 -0400
                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:29 +0100
                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 14:28 +0000
                                          Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 17:24 +0100
                                            Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:55 +0000
                                              Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:56 +0100
                                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Tim" <nosuchemail@quirkl.org> - 2026-06-27 01:37 +0000
                                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 06:45 +0000
                                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 09:32 +0100
                                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 14:49 +0000
                                                      Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 19:37 +0100
                                                        Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 05:09 +0000
                                Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 22:12 -0400
                                  Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:26 +0100
                                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-06-24 20:59 +0000
                    Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 07:25 -0400
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:42 +0000
            Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 17:20 -0400
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-22 16:51 -0400
    Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-23 04:31 -0400
      Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 20:48 +0000
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 22:00 +0100
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 21:17 +0000
            Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 22:26 +0100
              Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-23 22:18 +0000
                Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-24 10:24 +0100
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-23 22:14 -0400
        Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-06-27 09:39 +0000
          Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com> - 2026-06-27 15:17 +0000

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#716930 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-26 17:55 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3ebd21$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716922
On Jun 26, 2026 at 9:24:09 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111m939$ln8p$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 26/06/2026 15:28, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2026 at 2:29:05 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111lgp1$ct47$9@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 25/06/2026 19:42, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Both parties are horrible -- with the Republicans being
>>>> clearly and objectively far worse.
>>> 
>>> That depends on your POV and what you consider 'important'
>> 
>> Equal rights and evidence based policies.

> ROFLMAO
> 
> As usual what the left says is in fact diametrically opposed to what it
> actually does.

I am not speaking of others but myself. Not there can be reasoned disagreement
on how to best promote either of those things... but those principles are
important to me.
> 
> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
> offenders,.

Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

Many countries focus on rehabilitation for many types of crimes with great
success. For some crimes rehabilitation seems unlikely or impossible -- but
even then life in prison is generally cheaper than the death penalty, and not
as permanent for times there are mistakes.
> 
> For example
> 
>> 
>> And by that criteria it is not even close. Not that the Democrats are good.
>> They are not. But they are not fascist oligarchs pushing echoes of Nazi
>> Germany.
>> 
> Bo, they tend toward the Chairman Mao and Pol Pot way of doig things
> 

Give specific examples -- ones backed by large swaths of Democrats (as MAGA is
backed by a large number of Republicans). Be aware I will be asking for
polling data or the like to back your claim. Remember, for me evidence is very
important.

>>> 
>>> And that is a far more intelligent and nuanced conversation to have.
>> 
>> Sure.
>> 


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#716938 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-26 21:56 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716930
On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>> offenders,.
> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.

You don't really need peer review - that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
"We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.

By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#716950 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

From"Tim" <nosuchemail@quirkl.org>
Date2026-06-27 01:37 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<xn0prht4j7cholz000@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#716938
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> > > Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
> > > offenders,.
> > Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
> 
> You don't really need peer review - that bastion of the Lefts Bandar
> Logic:  "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
> 
> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
> 
> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come
> across.  Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
> 
> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

In the unlikely event that you're unfamiliar with Brock McNuggets—who
posts under numerous aliases, including "snit" and "Michael Glasser"
(his real nameame)—he is a longtime Usenet troll who has spent decades
disrupting discussions across countless newsgroups.

According to those who have had the unpleasent experience of
interacting with him, he does not hold a regular job and instead relies
on public assistance while claiming to suffer from multiple medical
conditions.

They argue that someone who is able to post to Usenet around the clock
would likely be capable of working, but that he chooses not to. They
further describe him as lazy and intellectually unimpressive, pointing
to the quality and frequency of his online posts as evidence for that
opinion.

Here are a couple of links describing this Usenet loon Brock McNuggets.
As you will learn, this troll specimen has slipped a cog or two and is
obviously mentally unstable. And in case you have not picked it up he
fancies himself a psychologist as he has a psychology degree from a
paper mill pay to graduate diploma mill.

<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>

-- 
 
Tim

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#716958 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-27 06:45 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3f717c$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716938
On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:

> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>> offenders,.
>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
> 
> You don't really need peer review -

You are going with feelings. OK.

> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.

You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.

> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.

And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
> 
> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.

I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.
> 
> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.

You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
method. Nor will you. That is clear.

As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:

* Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
crime:
  https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime

* Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
recidivism:
  https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

* Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
recidivism
  An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#716961 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-27 09:32 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111o1qs$14qc4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716958
On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
> <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>> offenders,.
>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>
>> You don't really need peer review -
> 
> You are going with feelings. OK.
> 
Mo. You are

>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
> 
> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
> 
No, you are

>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
> 
> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a 
punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple 
expedient of repealing all laws.

Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people 
breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime


>>
>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
> 
> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.

You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no 
such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.

Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group? 
And so on.
Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

>>
>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
> 
> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
> 
I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better' 
method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to 
measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a 
scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact 
being made 'better' compared with what?

You talk pure Libtard advertising speak.

"Persil washes whiter". (Than what? distilled engine oil?)
"Nothing works faster than Aspirin" (So why not use nothing, instead)
"Drink Brawndo: it's got electrolytes"

Let me collect the full text of the Bandar Log. whom you so closely 
resemble.

"A great roofless palace crowned the hill, and the marble of the 
courtyards and the fountains was split, and stained with red and green, 
and the very cobblestones in the courtyard where the king’s elephants 
used to live had been thrust up and apart by grasses and young trees. 
 From the palace you could see the rows and rows of roofless houses that 
made up the city looking like empty honeycombs filled with blackness; 
the shapeless block of stone that had been an idol in the square where 
four roads met; the pits and dimples at street corners where the public 
wells once stood, and the shattered domes of temples with wild figs 
sprouting on their sides. The monkeys called the place their city, and 
pretended to despise the Jungle-People because they lived in the forest. 
And yet they never knew what the buildings were made for nor how to use 
them. They would sit in circles on the hall of the king’s council 
chamber, and scratch for fleas and pretend to be men; or they would run 
in and out of the roofless houses and collect pieces of plaster and old 
bricks in a corner, and forget where they had hidden them, and fight and 
cry in scuffling crowds, and then break off to play up and down the 
terraces of the king’s garden, where they would shake the rose trees and 
the oranges in sport to see the fruit and flowers fall. They explored 
all the passages and dark tunnels in the palace and the hundreds of 
little dark rooms, but they never remembered what they had seen and what 
they had not; and so drifted about in ones and twos or crowds telling 
each other that they were doing as men did. They drank at the tanks and 
made the water all muddy, and then they fought over it, and then they 
would all rush together in mobs and shout: “There is no one in the 
jungle so wise and good and clever and strong and gentle as the 
Bandar-log.” Then all would begin again till they grew tired of the city 
and went back to the tree-tops, hoping the Jungle-People would notice 
them."...

In this passage we see the basic essence of the Bandar Log. The pretend 
to live in a city they didn't build, which they have no real knowledge 
of,. Just as Liberals today live in a technological  society that they 
have no knowledge of, and didnt build.

And like the Bandar Log, they cover their ignorance my making a huge 
noise, chattering and praising each other, and saying how wonderful they 
are and throwing dung at anyone who dioesn't live in the trees like they do.

..."Sore, sleepy, and hungry as he was, Mowgli could not help laughing 
when the Bandar-log began, twenty at a time, to tell him how great and 
wise and strong and gentle they were, and how foolish he was to wish to 
leave them. “We are great. We are free. We are wonderful. We are the 
most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must 
be true," they shouted. “Now as you are a new listener and can carry our 
words back to the Jungle-People so that they may notice us in future, we 
will tell you all about our most excellent selves." Mowgli made no 
objection, and the monkeys gathered by hundreds and hundreds on the 
terrace to listen to their own speakers singing the praises of the 
Bandar-log, and whenever a speaker stopped for want of breath they would 
all shout together: “This is true; we all say so.” Mowgli nodded and 
blinked, and said “Yes” when they asked him a question, and his head 
spun with the noise. “Tabaqui the Jackal must have bitten all these 
people,” he said to himself, “and now they have madness. Certainly this 
is dewanee, the madness. Do they never go to sleep? Now there is a cloud 
coming to cover that moon. If it were only a big enough cloud I might 
try to run away in the darkness. But I am tired.”

Her we see the true essence of the Bandar Log. They are not really 
interested in facts, or reality, or anything. They are only interested 
in self importance. So they tell themselves how fantastic they are and 
then assume that because they all are saying the same thing, it must be 
true. This is called 'peer review' in today's most modernism.
Underlying it is the metaphysiocs of the narcissist. "The  truth is a 
social construct". That is, they *believe* that the only real thing is 
what people think or can be persuaded to think, is real.

Hence the slogans. 'Black lives matter!' 'Climate Denier'! 'fascist' 
'racist' ''capitalist' 'Planet friendly' 'saving the planet' 'saving the 
children' (from exactly what is never, of course specified).

Facts are not, as Wittgenstein remarked 'whatever is the case' - No., 
Facts are *what  everyone agrees they are* using a scientific practice - 
peer review - for something it was never intended.

it doesn't matter what 98% of scientists think it it is in fact wrong.

But the woke Left have no concept of objective reality. Reality is what 
they say it is, and that's that.

Discovered not by experiment, but by opinion poll marketing survey and 
peer review.



> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
> 
> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
> crime:
>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
> 
> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
> recidivism:
>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
> 
> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
> recidivism
>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
> 

Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that 
murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison 
isn't there to 'cure' people. Its there to remove people from society.

The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be 
sent to prison at all.
Then There wont be any recidivism.

Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a 
coherent society.


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#716969 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-27 14:49 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3fe308$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716961
On Jun 27, 2026 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111o1qs$14qc4$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 27/06/2026 07:45, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 2026 at 1:56:59 PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
>> <111mp2r$qk78$6@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 26/06/2026 18:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> Evidence would say that to avoid repeat offenders, hang first time
>>>>> offenders,.
>>>> Show the peer review or similar research you are referring to.
>>> 
>>> You don't really need peer review -
>> 
>> You are going with feelings. OK.
>> 
> Mo. You are

You do something. I note it. You deny and project. That is boring.
> 
>>> that bastion of the Lefts Bandar Logic:
>>> "We all say it, so it must be true"  - to spot a truism.
>> 
>> You are avoiding the question and making things up about others.
>> 
> No, you are

You did it again.
> 
>>> By definition any first offenders who get hung will not reoffend.
>> 
>> And no innocent person would ever have a first offense if we killed them
>> all... but that is idiotic reasoning.
> I nrver claimed otherwise. Byt reasoning it is and logical it is.
> There was a cult film, in the UK made called 'Jubilee'. It features a
> punk future in which all crime had been abolished by the simple
> expedient of repealing all laws.
> 
> Again perfectly logical. And factual. Crimes is caused by people
> breaking laws. Remove the laws and there is no crime

You are missing the point. I am not focused on laws -- but on how to improve
equal rights. I back evidence based policies to do that.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> I am begi8nning to think that you really are as stupid as you come across.
>>> Stupid, vain, arrogant, and cocksure.
>> 
>> I back evidence and equal rights. You lash out.
> 
> You don't back evidence. You just believe what you are told. There is no
> such thing as 'equal rights' s and 'woke' absolutely abhors the principle.
> 
> Where are the white lawyers associations? the white lives matter group?
> And so on.
> Critical race theory is pure bigotry and racism.

Note how you just babble rage bate. Not very exciting.
> 
>>> 
>>> Dressing it all up in Liberal Concern and Sensitivity.
>> 
>> You did not back the idea that hanging first time offenders is a better
>> method. Nor will you. That is clear.
>> 
> I am not at this point into backing anything as a 'good' or 'better'
> method as those terms require in the first instance a yard stick to
> measure 'good' by that I do not claim to possess and the the second a
> scale of comparison with no clear identification as to what is in fact
> being made 'better' compared with what?

Your goal seems just to try to get people engaged.

...
> 
>> As I said, I prefer evidence. Here is some:
>> 
>> * Longer prison sentences have little consistent effect on lowering future
>> crime:
>>    https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/does-imprisonment-deter-crime
>> 
>> * Programs that change behavior (CBT, drug treatment, job training) do reduce
>> recidivism:
>>    https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
>> 
>> * Countries with more rehabilitative prison systems tend to show lower
>> recidivism
>>    An example: https://www.prisonstudies.org/country/norway
>> 
> 
> Yawn. The point about longer prison sentences, as we see daily, is that
> murderers and rapists don't get released onto the general public. Prison
> isn't there to 'cure' people. It's there to remove people from society.

What is your overall goal? Your value?
> 
> The logical extension of (your?) argument is that people shouldn't be
> sent to prison at all.
> Then There wont be any recidivism.

That is not true. That would not be the best way to support equal rights and
this is not tied to my views.
> 
> Once again is all about ideas, not about the reality of running a
> coherent society.

You are just looking to engage -- not to be reasoned or logical.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#716984 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-27 19:37 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111p59t$354ha$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716969
On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> What is your overall goal? Your value?

What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?
Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no 
experience of real life think they ought to have.,
Grown ups know better


-- 
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, 
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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#717047 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-28 05:09 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a40ac85$1$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716984
On Jun 27, 2026 at 11:37:49 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<111p59t$354ha$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 27/06/2026 15:49, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> What is your overall goal? Your value?
> 
> What on earth makes you think that people actually have them?

Others may or may not -- I do ... and you make it clear you do not have any...
at least meaningful ones.

> Its an indulgence that middle class spoilt suburbanites with no
> experience of real life think they ought to have.,
> Grown ups know better


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#716748 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-06-23 22:12 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3b3cf3$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716703
On 2026-06-23 4:54 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>>  Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- 
>> even as
>> infants.
>>
> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.

Geez, what a clown. Biden could have released the Epstein files too. Why 
didn't he? This is the guy who showered with his daughter, from her own 
admission. This is the old pervert who touched little girls 
inappropriately while on camera in public. If the Democrats wanted the 
release of those Epstein files so badly, they could have done it during 
his fraudulent, stolen presidency. In fact, if there were _anything_ at 
all they could have used against Trump or Republicans in general in 
those files, they would have done so. Either they are just as 
incompetent at releasing secret files as they are at everything else, or 
they were protecting fellow Democrats.

Meanwhile, Snit Brock McNuggets Michael Glasser Prescott Parasite and 
Computer Guy continues to insist on embarrassing himself with his 
striking retardation every day.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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#716763 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-24 11:26 +0100
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111gbc5$2sr2f$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716748
On 24/06/2026 03:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-06-23 4:54 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>>  Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- 
>>> even as
>>> infants.
>>>
>> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.
> 
> Geez, what a clown. Biden could have released the Epstein files too. Why 
> didn't he? This is the guy who showered with his daughter, from her own 
> admission. This is the old pervert who touched little girls 
> inappropriately while on camera in public. If the Democrats wanted the 
> release of those Epstein files so badly, they could have done it during 
> his fraudulent, stolen presidency. In fact, if there were _anything_ at 
> all they could have used against Trump or Republicans in general in 
> those files, they would have done so. Either they are just as 
> incompetent at releasing secret files as they are at everything else, or 
> they were protecting fellow Democrats.
> 
I make little distinction between the so called 'parties' in American 
politics,. They are all by and large rotten to the core, corrupted by 
the very power they exercise, in thinking they can get away with it.

And they have.

Anyone who thinks they are supporting a party that has only their 
interests at heat and is comprised of individuals whose odor of sanctity 
smells as sweet as their excrement is a damn fool. Carlos and his EU. 
They too are rotten to the core, And you cant get rid of them.

At least in Britain we accept hat fact and realise at some levels that 
democracy is a way of getting rod of the turds that have floated to the 
top by flushing  the  bowl and installing a new selection of turds.

People think I 'support Reform'...

Well I don't. I merely will vote that way as the least odoriferous of 
the shit piles on offer, and once they too have become infiltrated by 
carpet baggers, grifters ,agents of foreign powers and probably 
paedophiles fraudsters and rapists, I will vote for someone else.



-- 
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, 
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

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#716789 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2026-06-24 20:59 +0000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<111hgg9$3aa14$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to#716763
On 2026-06-24, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 24/06/2026 03:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-06-23 4:54 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>>>  Meanwhile Trump refuses to
>>>> release the Epstein files and speaks sexually of his own daughters -- 
>>>> even as
>>>> infants.
>>>>
>>> Trump isn't right wing. He's just a pervy  cunt.
>> 
>> Geez, what a clown. Biden could have released the Epstein files too. Why 
>> didn't he? This is the guy who showered with his daughter, from her own 
>> admission. This is the old pervert who touched little girls 
>> inappropriately while on camera in public. If the Democrats wanted the 
>> release of those Epstein files so badly, they could have done it during 
>> his fraudulent, stolen presidency. In fact, if there were _anything_ at 
>> all they could have used against Trump or Republicans in general in 
>> those files, they would have done so. Either they are just as 
>> incompetent at releasing secret files as they are at everything else, or 
>> they were protecting fellow Democrats.
>> 
> I make little distinction between the so called 'parties' in American 
> politics,. They are all by and large rotten to the core, corrupted by 
> the very power they exercise, in thinking they can get away with it.
>
> And they have.

Same here which is why I have long stated that the DC swamp needs to
be drained and completely reset and that goes for all parties.
The entire place has become corrupt and since they all have
something nefarious on the other guy, it's like a huge game of
chicken to see who will blink first.



> Anyone who thinks they are supporting a party that has only their 
> interests at heat and is comprised of individuals whose odor of sanctity 
> smells as sweet as their excrement is a damn fool. Carlos and his EU. 
> They too are rotten to the core, And you cant get rid of them.

A huge problem.
They are all out for themselves and to line their own pockets with
money or power.
It's just so obvious yet the public is unaware and complacent.



> At least in Britain we accept hat fact and realise at some levels that 
> democracy is a way of getting rod of the turds that have floated to the 
> top by flushing  the  bowl and installing a new selection of turds.


I've always enjoyed watching the Brits arguing in the house and jumping
over desks and so forth due to passion.
At lease it's entertaining at some level.

> People think I 'support Reform'...
>
> Well I don't. I merely will vote that way as the least odoriferous of 
> the shit piles on offer, and once they too have become infiltrated by 
> carpet baggers, grifters ,agents of foreign powers and probably 
> paedophiles fraudsters and rapists, I will vote for someone else.

Same with me.
I voted for Clinton, Obama 2x, Trump not because they were great candidates
but because they were the the least likely to cause massive damage compared
to the alternate candidates.

It's pretty sad that in a country of some 350 million people these are the
best candidates we can find to run for POTUS.

And if you look at NY, things are so bad there for the younger people
that they are lining up behind Communists like Mamdani and the 3 that
won last night.

And I don't blame them.

also IMHO if these Communists drop the woke, DEI, LBGTQ+ catering to and continue
promising "free stuff" this movement is going to sweep the country.
Watch and see.

-- 
pothead

“The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe,
for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because
his handle was made of wood, he was one of them".

---Author Unknown

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#716660 — Re: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-06-23 07:25 -0400
SubjectRe: OT Re: Joke of the Decade: Liberated Systemd
Message-ID<6a3a6d22$1$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716630
On 2026-06-22 11:20 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/06/2026 23:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> 
>> The right wingers feign offense to obfuscate their true offenses.
>>
> No, that's Left wingers.
> The right isn't interested in 'offence' or 'emotion'

I'll give you a perfect example of the Montreal shooter yesterday. My 
brother was right where the shooting happened at the time, so this event 
is somewhat personal to me.

The media tells us that the shooter was an "incel" who hated women and 
the Capitalist system. They're at a loss as to what his motives were. 
Meanwhile, they actually _have_ his 104-page manifesto. The only ones 
who bothered to do any kind of research are Rebel News, a right-wing 
media enterprise, who found out that the shooter was a Communist called 
Seth Hatfield from Alberta who hated Jews specifically, explaining why 
he went to an area where a lot of them could be found.

Once again, the mainstream, leftist media lied to protect one of their 
own: a Communist. The moment a leftist of any kind is involved, the 
shields go up to prevent anyone from making the link between evil and 
leftism. If the shooter is a Muslim, they're "mentally ill." If the 
shooter is black, they find a way to blame the cops for racism. If, 
however, a white man did something as trivial as point out the truth 
that the darker a person's skin, the more dangerous they are, their mere 
words are enough for an army of cops to show up and beat him to a pulp. 
They will be arrested, dragged through the mud in the media and 
portrayed as the worst thing since Jack the Ripper. The dark-skinned 
demon might be arrested, but will released at the soonest convenience.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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#716592

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-22 20:42 +0000
Message-ID<n9tl22Fud1U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#716585
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:01:31 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

> It's to show solidarity with James Comey, who was charged by Trump's
> corrupt DOJ with a death threat, having posted an image showing "86 47",
> which translates to removing the 47th president.  It was not a death
> threat, it was about removing Trump politically.

Putting aside his seashell art altogether Comey is the sort of person that 
gives weasels a bad name. 

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#716600

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 17:20 -0400
Message-ID<6Gh_R.2703$Rg34.2501@fx11.iad>
In reply to#716592
On 6/22/2026 4:42 PM, rbowman wrote:

>> It's to show solidarity with James Comey, who was charged by Trump's
>> corrupt DOJ with a death threat, having posted an image showing "86 47",
>> which translates to removing the 47th president.  It was not a death
>> threat, it was about removing Trump politically.
> 
> Putting aside his seashell art altogether Comey is the sort of person that
> gives weasels a bad name.


I will confess, I'm not interested enough to study his career.  It looks 
like you might be right, but it's just not important to me, to know about.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

86 47

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#716596

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-06-22 16:51 -0400
Message-ID<6a39a034$2$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#716584
On 2026-06-22 1:57 p.m., 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
> W dniu 22.06.2026 o 17:39, Joel W. Crump pisze:
>> 86 47
> 
> I have always wondered: what do these numbers in your signature mean? Is 
> it some kind of CRC checksum?

86 means to eliminate, as in to assassinate someone. 47 refers to Donald 
J. Trump who is the 47th President of the United States. Unfortunately, 
Joel had no mind of his own and is a loyal subscriber to whatever 
leftists want. Right now, leftists believe that Muslims are their 
friends and that they will help each other reign in a socialist paradise 
as long as they can get rid of us pesky white Christians. Since leftists 
have a remarkably short memory, they conveniently ignore that every time 
there has been an alliance between Muslims and the left, the Muslims 
simply used the left to gain political power and then murdered every 
last one of them once they got it (as was the case in Iran). They'll let 
Christians and Jews live... until they can no longer pay the jizya tax 
at which point their options are conversion or death.

These are facts and history shows it, but Joel is retarded and won't 
acknowledge reality. After all, he is convinced that he is Jesus Christ 
all the while not knowing a thing about God, the Old Testament, the New 
Testament, biology or technology.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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#716646

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-23 04:31 -0400
Message-ID<Mf6cnYS5w4js2af3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#716562
On 6/22/26 09:14, Distro Lackey wrote:
> Because of the hoopla over the Birth Date field (nonsense that I don't
> follow) someone has decided to fork systemd.
> 
> The result is hilariously named Liberated Systemd:
> 
> <https://linuxiac.com/someone-forked-systemd-over-its-new-birth-date-field/>
> 
> 
> Systemd is the lowest form of junk to ever enter the GNU/Linux universe.
> It is enslavement and degeneracy in the flesh and to refer to an innocuous
> fork as being "liberated" is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

   Tisk !!!

   Systemd is JUST FINE all in all. It's NOT the
   evil Winders registry.

   However, like much, it all DEPENDS on WHAT YOU
   EXACTLY WANT/NEED.

   For some, SysV is more than good enough. However
   I trend towards daemons and systemd has a good
   setup for starting them, under conditions, and
   then watchdogging them.

   As per another current theme here, note that MX Linux
   can be installed, and even then selectively started,
   grub-customizer, as either SysV or systemd. These
   days I always go for systemd. But, on some extreme
   thin (Pi-0 or similar), I might go SysV just to keep
   the code extra tiny.

   Yes, DO see how it can be potentially abused and
   the added complication. Kinda OUR job to watch
   for that happening and act. Winders, you do what
   Gates TELLS you to do. With Linux we have choices.

   Again, What YOU Need for a particular thing at
   the moment. No general rule here.

   I'd like to see a 'systemd-lite' - maybe ten or
   twenty percent of the more neat-o stuff systemd
   can do.

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#716697

FromDistro Lackey <dl@lackey.com>
Date2026-06-23 20:48 +0000
Message-ID<18bbd0df025d907b$5324$4120301$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#716646
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 04:31:34 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Yes, DO see how it can be potentially abused and
>    the added complication. Kinda OUR job to watch
>    for that happening and act.

The fact that you consider systemd acceptable is a definite
indication that YOU are not doing YOUR job.

Anyone who understands the technicality and proposed goals
of systemd realizes that it is an insidious usurpation of
GNU/Linux freedom.


>
> Winders, you do what
> Gates TELLS you to do. With Linux we have choices.
> 

If the overwhelming majority of GNU/Linux distros have
converted to systemd then the idea of "choice" is merely
a pipe dream of deluded idiots.

Choice still exists, but not for distro slaves.

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#716706

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-23 22:00 +0100
Message-ID<111es60$2hojc$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716697
On 23/06/2026 21:48, Distro Lackey wrote:
> Anyone who understands the technicality and proposed goals
> of systemd realizes that it is an insidious usurpation of
> GNU/Linux freedom.
Yawn.

Go an compile your kernel ffrom source and stop complaining

-- 
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, 
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

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#716713

FromDistro Lackey <dl@lackey.com>
Date2026-06-23 21:17 +0000
Message-ID<18bbd271666f5e82$10514$162852$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#716706
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 22:00:48 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 23/06/2026 21:48, Distro Lackey wrote:
>> Anyone who understands the technicality and proposed goals
>> of systemd realizes that it is an insidious usurpation of
>> GNU/Linux freedom.
> Yawn.
> 
> Go an compile your kernel ffrom source and stop complaining
>

For someone who can accomplish little else other than publish
his boorish vomit on Usenet, using software written by others,
then I suppose that systemd would be a total non-issue.

But truly competent people will disagree.

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#716714

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-23 22:26 +0100
Message-ID<111etmu$2hojc$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#716713
On 23/06/2026 22:17, Distro Lackey wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 22:00:48 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 23/06/2026 21:48, Distro Lackey wrote:
>>> Anyone who understands the technicality and proposed goals of
>>> systemd realizes that it is an insidious usurpation of GNU/Linux
>>> freedom.
>> Yawn.
>> 
>> Go an compile your kernel ffrom source and stop complaining
>> 
> 
> For someone who can accomplish little else other than publish his
> boorish vomit on Usenet, using software written by others, then I
> suppose that systemd would be a total non-issue.
> 
> But truly competent people will disagree.
> 
Oh Get YOU sweety.

For someone who can accomplish little else other than publish
his boorish vomit on Usenet, using software written by others,
then I suppose that systemd would be a total issue.

Because he is too stupid to disable it, or circumvent it and refuses to 
accept it.
What a luser.

Typical socialist. 'Wipe my botty: I cant do it myself.. I am OPPRESSED 
by these turds. I am a VICTIM'



-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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