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  Re: Ubuntu 16.04 davidwillsalden@gmail.com - 2016-08-07 20:38 -0700
    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 23:50 -0400
      Looking for vacuum pump for extra help flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.cum> - 2016-08-10 05:13 -0500
    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-08 15:04 +0100
    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-08 14:31 -0400
    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 22:31 +0000
      Re: Ubuntu 16.04 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-09 19:35 -0400
        Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 19:44 -0400
          Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-10 01:59 +0200
            Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 20:11 -0400
              Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-10 02:22 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 20:32 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu 16.04 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-10 07:34 -0500
              Re: Ubuntu 16.04 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-10 13:54 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 09:54 -0400
              Re: Ubuntu 16.04 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 09:53 -0400
      Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-09 20:11 -0400

#364764 — Re: Ubuntu 16.04

On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?

I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?

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#364765

On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700 (PDT), davidwillsalden@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
> 
> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?

SSH into it and fix it.

-- 
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Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#365025 — Looking for vacuum pump for extra help

I always wake up in the morning and say out loud 'Oh fuck, not another
day?'

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#364788

On 08/08/2016 04:38, davidwillsalden@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
>
> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?
>

Install Windows and then you can get professional support that won't 
blame you, or tell you that you are an idiot or that "It works for me".

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#364820

On 8/7/2016 11:38 PM, davidwillsalden@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
>
> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a
> disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has
> 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And
> then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?


Put a Windows disc in the drive and reboot.

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#364967

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:

> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
> 
> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a
> disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has
> 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And
> then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?

Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.

-- 
"If voting actually made a difference, 
they wouldn't let us do it." -Mark Twain

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#364977

On 8/9/2016 6:31 PM, ronb wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
>>
>> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a
>> disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has
>> 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And
>> then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?
>
> Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.


uh huh... all the hobbyware victims at:

Mint:      http://forums.linuxmint.com/
Ubuntu:    http://ubuntuforums.org
Fedora:    http://fedoraforum.org/
Mageia:    https://forums.mageia.org/en/
Debian:    http://forums.debian.net/
openSUSE:  http://forums.opensuse.org/
Arch:      https://bbs.archlinux.org/
CentOS:    http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
Puppy:     http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/
PCLinuxOS: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/
Ultimate:  http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
Lubuntu:   http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=lubuntu
Pear:      http://pearlinux.org/index.php/forum/index
Chakra:    http://chakra-project.org/bbs/
Sabayon:   http://forum.sabayon.org/
Bodhi:     http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
Slackware: 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14
Gentoo:    http://forums.gentoo.org/
Zorin:     http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/
Fuduntu:   http://www.fuduntu.org/forum/

are liars too...

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#364978

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:35:02 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 8/9/2016 6:31 PM, ronb wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>>>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
>>>
>>> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a
>>> disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has
>>> 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And
>>> then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?
>>
>> Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.
> 
> 
> uh huh... all the hobbyware victims at:
> 
> Mint:      http://forums.linuxmint.com/
> Ubuntu:    http://ubuntuforums.org
> Fedora:    http://fedoraforum.org/
> Mageia:    https://forums.mageia.org/en/
> Debian:    http://forums.debian.net/
> openSUSE:  http://forums.opensuse.org/
> Arch:      https://bbs.archlinux.org/
> CentOS:    http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
> Puppy:     http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/
> PCLinuxOS: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/
> Ultimate:  http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
> Lubuntu:   http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=lubuntu
> Pear:      http://pearlinux.org/index.php/forum/index
> Chakra:    http://chakra-project.org/bbs/
> Sabayon:   http://forum.sabayon.org/
> Bodhi:     http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
> Slackware: 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14
> Gentoo:    http://forums.gentoo.org/
> Zorin:     http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/
> Fuduntu:   http://www.fuduntu.org/forum/
> 
> are liars too...

Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux is deemed a liar. I
can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
the same play book they've been using for 20 years.

And before one of them comes along and replies 3rd party claiming that
we are still claiming the same faults with Linux, like sound problems
for example, that's because these problems are still real and have yet
to be fixed.

BTW my Windows anniversary update took less than 30 minutes to
complete.
Works perfectly.

I've never had that happen with Linux major version updates.
Something always gets hosed.
Sometimes it's minor, other times the system is completely hosed.
Ubuntu seems to be the worst followed by Suse.

-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#364984

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:44:09 -0400
flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:35:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
> > On 8/9/2016 6:31 PM, ronb wrote:  
> >> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:
> >>  
> >>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:  
> >>>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?  
> >>>
> >>> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it
> >>> is a disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message
> >>> that it has 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety
> >>> of things.  And then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?  
> >>
> >> Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.  
> > 
> > 
> > uh huh... all the hobbyware victims at:
> > 
> > Mint:      http://forums.linuxmint.com/
> > Ubuntu:    http://ubuntuforums.org
> > Fedora:    http://fedoraforum.org/
> > Mageia:    https://forums.mageia.org/en/
> > Debian:    http://forums.debian.net/
> > openSUSE:  http://forums.opensuse.org/
> > Arch:      https://bbs.archlinux.org/
> > CentOS:    http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
> > Puppy:     http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/
> > PCLinuxOS: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/
> > Ultimate:  http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
> > Lubuntu:   http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=lubuntu
> > Pear:      http://pearlinux.org/index.php/forum/index
> > Chakra:    http://chakra-project.org/bbs/
> > Sabayon:   http://forum.sabayon.org/
> > Bodhi:     http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
> > Slackware: 
> > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14
> > Gentoo:    http://forums.gentoo.org/
> > Zorin:     http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/
> > Fuduntu:   http://www.fuduntu.org/forum/
> > 
> > are liars too...  
> 
> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux is deemed a liar. I
> can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.

Forums are places where people with problem will go out first as soon
as they hit one. It's not just linux, any os forums are flooded with
users with problems...

> 
> And before one of them comes along and replies 3rd party claiming that
> we are still claiming the same faults with Linux, like sound problems
> for example, that's because these problems are still real and have yet
> to be fixed.

No sound problems since more then two years...


> 
> BTW my Windows anniversary update took less than 30 minutes to
> complete.
> Works perfectly.

For you. Some weren't that lucky.. and guess what where they will
complain first?

> 
> I've never had that happen with Linux major version updates.
> Something always gets hosed.

What distro? Linux is generic term...

> Sometimes it's minor, other times the system is completely hosed.
> Ubuntu seems to be the worst followed by Suse.

I am on Manjaro, it's rolling release... they recently opened new forum
where users perform q&a on future updates. That is, there are three
levels of repos. Unstable,Testing and Stable.
It is rare that problems hit Stable now, but it happens...

> 

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#364986

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 01:59:49 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:44:09 -0400
> flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:35:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/9/2016 6:31 PM, ronb wrote:  
>>>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:  
>>>>>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?  
>>>>>
>>>>> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it
>>>>> is a disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message
>>>>> that it has 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety
>>>>> of things.  And then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?  
>>>>
>>>> Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> uh huh... all the hobbyware victims at:
>>> 
>>> Mint:      http://forums.linuxmint.com/
>>> Ubuntu:    http://ubuntuforums.org
>>> Fedora:    http://fedoraforum.org/
>>> Mageia:    https://forums.mageia.org/en/
>>> Debian:    http://forums.debian.net/
>>> openSUSE:  http://forums.opensuse.org/
>>> Arch:      https://bbs.archlinux.org/
>>> CentOS:    http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
>>> Puppy:     http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/
>>> PCLinuxOS: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/
>>> Ultimate:  http://forumubuntusoftware.info/
>>> Lubuntu:   http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=lubuntu
>>> Pear:      http://pearlinux.org/index.php/forum/index
>>> Chakra:    http://chakra-project.org/bbs/
>>> Sabayon:   http://forum.sabayon.org/
>>> Bodhi:     http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
>>> Slackware: 
>>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14
>>> Gentoo:    http://forums.gentoo.org/
>>> Zorin:     http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/
>>> Fuduntu:   http://www.fuduntu.org/forum/
>>> 
>>> are liars too...  
>> 
>> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux is deemed a liar. I
>> can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
>> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.
> 
> Forums are places where people with problem will go out first as soon
> as they hit one. It's not just linux, any os forums are flooded with
> users with problems...

Certainly.
And one is going to find more people with problems than not in any
forum.
Why?
People come to forums in the first place when they need help.

The difference with Linux is, and this has been proven many times, is
if you come into COLA all rosey and glowing with that "I'm on fire for
Linux" attitude, the COLA minions will accept you as one of their own.

Say even one single negative thing about Linux and you have just gone
from soul brother to arch enemy.

With Linux, you have to follow the cult or you are attacked.
Even people who were longtime cult members and decided to stop lying
for Linux have been thrown out of the cult.
Greycloud is one example.
There are others.
 
>> 
>> And before one of them comes along and replies 3rd party claiming that
>> we are still claiming the same faults with Linux, like sound problems
>> for example, that's because these problems are still real and have yet
>> to be fixed.
> 
> No sound problems since more then two years...

I rest my case.
 
> 
>> 
>> BTW my Windows anniversary update took less than 30 minutes to
>> complete.
>> Works perfectly.
> 
> For you. Some weren't that lucky.. and guess what where they will
> complain first?

Like I said, the groups.
The difference is if you complain about something in a Windows or OSX
group you are not attacked as a liar.
Far different than a Linux group.

>> 
>> I've never had that happen with Linux major version updates.
>> Something always gets hosed.
> 
> What distro? Linux is generic term...

Ubuntu.
Fedora
Suse
Redhat (way back).
 
>> Sometimes it's minor, other times the system is completely hosed.
>> Ubuntu seems to be the worst followed by Suse.
> 
> I am on Manjaro, it's rolling release... they recently opened new forum
> where users perform q&a on future updates. That is, there are three
> levels of repos. Unstable,Testing and Stable.
> It is rare that problems hit Stable now, but it happens...

Last time I tried Manjero I got a black screen with miniscule text and
this was on a common PC with nothing odd in it.
Has it improved in say the last year or so?


-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#364991

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 20:11:25 -0400
flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Last time I tried Manjero I got a black screen with miniscule text and
> this was on a common PC with nothing odd in it.
> Has it improved in say the last year or so?
> 
> 
It improved very much. Manjaro started in 2013. now, three years later,
is pretty decent. I picked this distro because it was what I wanted
from beginning . Installed it on bare metal in 2014, never looked to
any other distro since...
Follow their forum, they announce each update, and wait for users to
report problems before updating ;p
It is on 5th place on distrowatch now. 
What you get with Manjaro? Kernels and drivers install with ease.
Software got checked before update. No need to tremble every six
months ;)
Good developer team.
But beware , it's bleeding edge so bugs pop up naturally, but they got
fixed eventually....

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#364993

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:22:53 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 20:11:25 -0400
> flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Last time I tried Manjero I got a black screen with miniscule text and
>> this was on a common PC with nothing odd in it.
>> Has it improved in say the last year or so?
>> 
>> 
> It improved very much. Manjaro started in 2013. now, three years later,
> is pretty decent. I picked this distro because it was what I wanted
> from beginning . Installed it on bare metal in 2014, never looked to
> any other distro since...
> Follow their forum, they announce each update, and wait for users to
> report problems before updating ;p
> It is on 5th place on distrowatch now. 
> What you get with Manjaro? Kernels and drivers install with ease.
> Software got checked before update. No need to tremble every six
> months ;)
> Good developer team.
> But beware , it's bleeding edge so bugs pop up naturally, but they got
> fixed eventually....

Thanks.
I'll give it a try.

For the record, I have nothing against bleeding edge and in fact I
prefer it so in general I accept having some problems. Very different
from installing an LTS version and having basic problems.

Thanks for the tip.



-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#365037

> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux (snip lies)

That old lie, again, flathead?

>> I can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
>> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.

How ironic, from the most boring, repetitious, loser/liar in here.

-- 
"And I blame the Linux community. Everyone is making their own
distro." -  John "mono means one" Slade

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#365040

chrisv wrote:

>> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux (snip lies)
>
> That old lie, again, flathead?
>
>>> I can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
>>> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.
>
> How ironic, from the most boring, repetitious, loser/liar in here.


Yes, hard to believe that the flatfish troll is still using the same old
routines from the same play book the moron's been trolling COLA with
for the past 20 years. What a boring life that cretin must lead.

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#365045

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:54:46 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
> 
>>> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux (snip lies)
>>
>> That old lie, again, flathead?
>>
>>>> I can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
>>>> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.
>>
>> How ironic, from the most boring, repetitious, loser/liar in here.
> 
> 
> Yes, hard to believe that the flatfish troll is still using the same old
> routines from the same play book the moron's been trolling COLA with
> for the past 20 years. What a boring life that cretin must lead.

That's what you Linux liars do.
Works for me, never had a problem with Linux, filters, filters and
more filters.

That's your entire posting history in one sentence Dumb Willy Poaster.

-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#365044

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 07:34:06 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone who dares to criticize the almighty Linux (snip lies)
> 
> That old lie, again, flathead?

Still replying 3rd party because you don't have the intelligence to
debate.

>>> I can't believe these Linux dorks are still using the same routines from
>>> the same play book they've been using for 20 years.
> 
> How ironic, from the most boring, repetitious, loser/liar in here.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#364990

ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 20:38:56 -0700, davidwillsalden wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 7:37:43 PM UTC-7, philo wrote:
>>> Just wondering if anyone else has done the upgrade yet?
>> 
>> I did the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 on my Thinkpad X220 and it is a
>> disaster! On startup all I get is a terminal type message that it has
>> 'started' or is 'starting' or has 'created' a variety of things.  And
>> then it just sits frozen.  What can I do?
>
> Quit lying, lying troll. You know you're full of crap.

That's the idea.  Throw crap at the wall and hope it sticks.

-- 
Q:	What do you call a principal female opera singer whose high C
	is lower than those of other principal female opera singers?
A:	A deep C diva.

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