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"Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement"

Started by"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
First post2025-08-24 04:52 -0400
Last post2025-08-31 08:23 +0000
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  "Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 04:52 -0400
    Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 09:32 +0000
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 05:44 -0400
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:23 -0700
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:36 -0400
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:34 -0700
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:24 +0000
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:36 -0700
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:47 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:53 -0700
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:42 +0000
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:18 -0400
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 16:21 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:37 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 01:36 +0000
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:56 +0000
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:43 -0400
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-28 17:57 +0000
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:10 +0000
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-02 19:46 +0000
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:12 -0700
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:32 +0000
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:34 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:06 -0400
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:35 +0000
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:58 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:54 -0700
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:21 -0400
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-24 22:18 +0000
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:33 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:45 -0700
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:06 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:18 -0700
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:39 -0400
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0700
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:22 -0700
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:38 -0400
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 19:41 -0700
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:11 +0000
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 22:12 -0700
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 03:13 +0000
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 20:24 -0700
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 04:09 +0000
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:58 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 05:44 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:39 -0400
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:17 +0000
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:12 +0000
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 10:53 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 12:12 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2025-08-28 09:40 -0700
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 14:31 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:12 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:29 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:11 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:35 -0400
                                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 00:08 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:14 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-29 00:53 +0000
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:43 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:57 +0000
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:53 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 03:57 +0000
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:19 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:44 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:36 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:21 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-29 16:27 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:55 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:13 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 21:45 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:26 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-30 04:41 +0000
                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-30 10:36 -0500
                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:06 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 13:30 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:35 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:54 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:39 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 00:22 +0000
                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 20:53 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 14:37 -0400
                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 19:37 +0000
                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:21 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:29 -0400
                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:47 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 17:05 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:17 +0000
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:01 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:10 -0400
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 19:32 -0400
                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:13 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:34 -0400
                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
                                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 16:56 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:50 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:06 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 12:20 -0400
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 17:33 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:15 -0400
                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:45 -0400
                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 18:46 -0400
                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 07:18 -0500
                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 00:55 +0000
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-03 01:14 +0000
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:57 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 21:52 +0000
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:36 -0400
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 18:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 07:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 08:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:31 -0700
                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:43 -0400
                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:14 -0700
                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 16:23 -0700
                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 21:00 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 19:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 09:55 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:09 -0700
                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 19:36 -0400
                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 16:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 19:57 -0400
                                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 17:13 -0700
                                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 21:30 -0400
                                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 21:53 -0400
                                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:12 -0700
                                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 22:24 -0400
                                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 20:32 -0700
                                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:54 -0400
                                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:22 -0400
                                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:28 -0400
                                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 16:41 -0500
                                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:50 -0400
                                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 14:57 -0700
                                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:09 -0400
                                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:33 -0400
                                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:54 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:15 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:39 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:58 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 20:02 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-06 00:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 18:01 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 21:55 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 19:02 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 12:43 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 15:44 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 13:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 20:09 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:52 -0400
                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 13:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 10:35 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 12:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 10:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 14:41 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-01 20:29 +0000
                                                Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-02 00:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 12:12 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:37 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:36 -0400
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 09:45 -0400
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 13:59 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:24 -0700
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:39 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 16:55 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 17:05 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 20:26 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:41 +0100
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:57 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:47 -0500
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:42 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:52 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:00 +0100
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:29 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:22 +0000
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 09:04 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:42 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:58 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 13:13 -0400
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:45 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 21:24 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:36 -0400
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:37 +0000
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:48 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:30 -0700
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:07 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:13 -0700
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 03:53 +0000
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:52 -0400
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 09:47 -0700
        Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Nick Charles <blankety_blank@blank> - 2025-08-24 13:35 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 21:56 +0000
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:12 -0700
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:26 +0000
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 04:32 +0000
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:01 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:17 -0700
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:26 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:38 -0700
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:42 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:31 -0700
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:12 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:27 -0700
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:53 -0400
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:17 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:21 -0700
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:40 +0000
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:18 -0700
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:56 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:58 -0700
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:45 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:27 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:34 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:17 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:59 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:29 -0400
                                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:51 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:41 -0400
                                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 19:18 -0400
                                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:16 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:37 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:10 -0400
                                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:14 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:35 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:36 +0000
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 21:51 -0700
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0000
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:39 -0400
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:40 -0400
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 18:52 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:29 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 21:37 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:28 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:02 -0400
                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:31 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:44 -0400
                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:25 -0400
                                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:55 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 12:52 -0400
                                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 14:16 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:43 -0400
                                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
                                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 15:54 -0400
                                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:16 -0400
                                                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:37 -0400
                                                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:20 -0400
                                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 22:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 19:16 -0400
                                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:41 -0400
                                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:52 +0000
                                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:13 +0000
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:22 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 19:17 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 19:46 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:44 -0400
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:37 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:30 -0400
                                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:03 -0400
                                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:27 -0400
                                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:50 -0400
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:37 -0400
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:40 +0000
                            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:02 -0400
                              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:30 +0000
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:26 +0000
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-24 23:49 +0100
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:25 +0100
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:13 -0400
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:20 -0700
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:34 +0100
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:42 +0000
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:44 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:15 +0100
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:20 +0000
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:24 -0700
                          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:26 +0100
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:49 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:59 -0700
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:55 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:46 +0000
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:42 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:38 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:32 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 13:58 -0500
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:44 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-28 07:07 -0500
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 00:37 +0000
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 20:48 -0400
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 01:53 +0000
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:23 -0400
      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:33 -0400
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:06 +0000
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 13:17 -0700
            Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:59 +0000
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:06 -0400
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 21:17 +0000
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:13 -0400
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:36 -0400
              Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 14:19 -0700
                Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 13:02 +0000
                  Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 11:17 -0700
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 20:40 +0000
                      Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-07 18:31 -0400
          Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:12 -0400
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:02 -0400
        Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 23:17 +0000
    Re: "Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:12 +0000
      Re: "Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 08:23 +0000

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#695903 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-24 22:12 -0700
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108grck$37ilo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#695894
On 2025-08-24 21:11, vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer.  It's too expensive.
>>>>
>>>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines are
>>>> basically just glorified laptops now.
>>>>
>>>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t work
>>>> the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work.
>>>>
>>>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he has
>>>> given up on Apple and switched to Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected*
>>> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the
>>> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the
>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS, it's
>>> just throwing money down the toilet.  Maybe they have money to burn, I
>>> could understand that, but it would never click with me even if I did
>>> have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that way to
>>> prefer Apple's quirkware.
>>>
>>>
>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please.
>>
>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my experience,
>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years.
>>
>> That's $37 a month.
>>
>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very
>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference is
>> about $25/month.
>>
>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry.
>>
>> But please elaborate:
>>
>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation?
> 
> They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar.
> 
> ;)
> 
> Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for
> what you get.  I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though.

And why is that?

> 
> Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with Thunderbolt,
> which is basically "external PCIE".

"Basically"? It is exactly and literally external PCIe.

> 
> Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never
> explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac
> command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment.
> 
> There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or
> experience with a system making claims about it.  I'll not say it
> personally, but leave it to others to decide.
> 
> But having said all that:  Linux is still a better environment
> for _my_ needs, which includes a recent installation of a document
> management system, using docker.  (Do Macs have docker?  Do they even
> have containers?  Beats me.)
I don't know what "docker" is, and what in Linux context are "containers"?

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#696060 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-08-27 03:13 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<mh7begFsipdU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#695903
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:12:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
<108grck$37ilo$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 2025-08-24 21:11, vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
>> <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer.  It's too
>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines
>>>>> are basically just glorified laptops now.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t
>>>>> work the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he
>>>>> has given up on Apple and switched to Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected*
>>>> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the
>>>> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the
>>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS,
>>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet.  Maybe they have money to
>>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even
>>>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that
>>>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please.
>>>
>>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my
>>> experience,
>>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years.
>>>
>>> That's $37 a month.
>>>
>>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very
>>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference
>>> is about $25/month.
>>>
>>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry.
>>>
>>> But please elaborate:
>>>
>>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation?
>> 
>> They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar.
>> 
>> ;)
>> 
>> Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for what
>> you get.  I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though.
> 
> And why is that?

Because both Mac mini's we've owned over the years have been slugs.

> 
> 
>> Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with Thunderbolt,
>> which is basically "external PCIE".
> 
> "Basically"? It is exactly and literally external PCIe.
> 
> 
>> Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never
>> explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac
>> command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment.
>> 
>> There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or
>> experience with a system making claims about it.  I'll not say it
>> personally, but leave it to others to decide.
>> 
>> But having said all that:  Linux is still a better environment for _my_
>> needs, which includes a recent installation of a document management
>> system, using docker.  (Do Macs have docker?  Do they even have
>> containers?  Beats me.)
> I don't know what "docker" is, and what in Linux context are
> "containers"?

Containers are a kind of lightweight virtual space that still runs on
the same kernel as the rest of the host.  They can have their own 
uid's,gid's, network addresses, chroots, etc.

Docker is a way to run things easily within containers.  It's all the rage
for lightweight virtualized setups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)

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#696061 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-26 20:24 -0700
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<OuOdnXFT8NzI5zP1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#696060
vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:12:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> <108grck$37ilo$2@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 2025-08-24 21:11, vallor wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
>>> <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer.  It's too
>>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines
>>>>>> are basically just glorified laptops now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t
>>>>>> work the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he
>>>>>> has given up on Apple and switched to Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected*
>>>>> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the
>>>>> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the
>>>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS,
>>>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet.  Maybe they have money to
>>>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even
>>>>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that
>>>>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please.
>>>>
>>>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my
>>>> experience,
>>>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years.
>>>>
>>>> That's $37 a month.
>>>>
>>>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very
>>>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference
>>>> is about $25/month.
>>>>
>>>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry.
>>>>
>>>> But please elaborate:
>>>>
>>>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation?
>>>
>>> They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar.
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for what
>>> you get.  I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though.
>>
>> And why is that?
> 
> Because both Mac mini's we've owned over the years have been slugs.
> 
>>
>>
>>> Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with Thunderbolt,
>>> which is basically "external PCIE".
>>
>> "Basically"? It is exactly and literally external PCIe.
>>
>>
>>> Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never
>>> explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac
>>> command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment.
>>>
>>> There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or
>>> experience with a system making claims about it.  I'll not say it
>>> personally, but leave it to others to decide.
>>>
>>> But having said all that:  Linux is still a better environment for _my_
>>> needs, which includes a recent installation of a document management
>>> system, using docker.  (Do Macs have docker?  Do they even have
>>> containers?  Beats me.)
>> I don't know what "docker" is, and what in Linux context are
>> "containers"?
> 
> Containers are a kind of lightweight virtual space that still runs on
> the same kernel as the rest of the host.  They can have their own
> uid's,gid's, network addresses, chroots, etc.
> 
> Docker is a way to run things easily within containers.  It's all the rage
> for lightweight virtualized setups.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)
> 
what , what's this , there's something you don't know

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#696063 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-08-27 04:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<mh7eomFsipdU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#696061
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 20:24:12 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<OuOdnXFT8NzI5zP1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:12:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
>> <108grck$37ilo$2@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 2025-08-24 21:11, vallor wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
>>>> <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer.  It's too
>>>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines
>>>>>>> are basically just glorified laptops now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t
>>>>>>> work the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he
>>>>>>> has given up on Apple and switched to Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected*
>>>>>> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the
>>>>>> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the
>>>>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS,
>>>>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet.  Maybe they have money to
>>>>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me
>>>>>> even if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work
>>>>>> that way to prefer Apple's quirkware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my
>>>>> experience,
>>>>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's $37 a month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I
>>>>> very much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the
>>>>> difference is about $25/month.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry.
>>>>>
>>>>> But please elaborate:
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation?
>>>>
>>>> They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar.
>>>>
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for
>>>> what you get.  I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though.
>>>
>>> And why is that?
>> 
>> Because both Mac mini's we've owned over the years have been slugs.
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>>> Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with
>>>> Thunderbolt,
>>>> which is basically "external PCIE".
>>>
>>> "Basically"? It is exactly and literally external PCIe.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never
>>>> explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac
>>>> command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment.
>>>>
>>>> There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or
>>>> experience with a system making claims about it.  I'll not say it
>>>> personally, but leave it to others to decide.
>>>>
>>>> But having said all that:  Linux is still a better environment for
>>>> _my_
>>>> needs, which includes a recent installation of a document management
>>>> system, using docker.  (Do Macs have docker?  Do they even have
>>>> containers?  Beats me.)
>>> I don't know what "docker" is, and what in Linux context are
>>> "containers"?
>> 
>> Containers are a kind of lightweight virtual space that still runs on
>> the same kernel as the rest of the host.  They can have their own
>> uid's,gid's, network addresses, chroots, etc.
>> 
>> Docker is a way to run things easily within containers.  It's all the
>> rage for lightweight virtualized setups.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)
>> 
> what , what's this , there's something you don't know

About MacOS?  There are things there that I definitely don't
know -- or didn't know, and had to learn about.

(Like setting a custom schedule for timemachine backups.  Had
to get a third-party app for that.)

In the case of docker, it appears one runs colima, and one
can get that through brew.

I have brew.

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#696066 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-08-27 04:58 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108m392$f17k$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696063
Note that Docker on Linux is just one packaging of Linux container 
technology. There are a great many other ways to do containers on Linux, 
while other platforms, it seems, are pretty much stuck on Docker.

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#696067 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-08-27 05:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<mh7k9eFsipdU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#696066
I'd point out more on this topic, but I've decided this one
posting a "Lawrence" is just a troll.

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#696089 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-27 09:39 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108n1pk$mqnn$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696066
On 2025-08-27 00:58, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> Note that Docker on Linux is just one packaging of Linux container
> technology. There are a great many other ways to do containers on Linux,
> while other platforms, it seems, are pretty much stuck on Docker.

<https://github.com/apple/container>

<https://www.macforce.com/blog/apples-linux-container-revolution-a-complete-guide-for-mac-users>

<https://4sysops.com/archives/install-apple-container-cli-running-containers-natively-on-macos-15-sequoia-and-macos-26-tahoe/>

'Meet Containerization

Meet Containerization, an open source project written in Swift to create 
and run Linux containers on your Mac. Learn how Containerization 
approaches Linux containers securely and privately. Discover how the 
open-sourced Container CLI tool utilizes the Containerization package to 
provide simple, yet powerful functionality to build, run, and deploy 
Linux Containers on Mac.'

<https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/346/>

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#696094 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-08-27 14:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<raCdnSelt6AUjjL1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#696089
On Aug 27, 2025 at 9:39:00 AM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2025-08-27 00:58, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> Note that Docker on Linux is just one packaging of Linux container
>> technology. There are a great many other ways to do containers on Linux,
>> while other platforms, it seems, are pretty much stuck on Docker.
> 
> <https://github.com/apple/container>
> 
> <https://www.macforce.com/blog/apples-linux-container-revolution-a-complete-guide-for-mac-users>
> 
> <https://4sysops.com/archives/install-apple-container-cli-running-containers-natively-on-macos-15-sequoia-and-macos-26-tahoe/>
> 
> 'Meet Containerization
> 
> Meet Containerization, an open source project written in Swift to create
> and run Linux containers on your Mac. Learn how Containerization
> approaches Linux containers securely and privately. Discover how the
> open-sourced Container CLI tool utilizes the Containerization package to
> provide simple, yet powerful functionality to build, run, and deploy
> Linux Containers on Mac.'
> 
> <https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/346/>

The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal development
platform.  You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development on a Mac (of course)
AND you can already do Windows development on a Mac. Windows Arm runs in a
standard VM and Visual Studio runs just fine.  I have done this. A Mac is
already the ultimate "2 in 1" computer.

Now with the ability to easily run Linux, you can code/test/debug Linux apps
also.  All on a single machine. 

So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs".  That would be silly since MacOS
is already Unix. But the ability to develop/test for everything and run
Mac/Windows/Linux apps on a single computer will be very attractive to
developers and ordinary computer geeks.  

From the macforce link above:

"If you're a Mac user who's ever dabbled in software development, web
development, or even just tried to run certain applications, you've probably
heard of Docker. For years, Docker has been the go-to solution for running
Linux-based applications on macOS. But Apple has just changed the game
entirely with their new Linux Container Tools, and the implications are huge
for Mac developers and power users alike.

In this comprehensive guide, we'll explore what Apple's Linux Container Tools
are, how they work, what makes them revolutionary, and why they might just
make Docker feel obsolete on your Mac."

Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new.  What is new is the way Apple is
making it much easier/faster to do.  Which comes from Apple having VAST
experience in working with Unix.

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#696115 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-08-28 04:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108okvk$13cdr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696094
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:17:45 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

> The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal
> development platform. You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development
> on a Mac (of course) AND you can already do Windows development on a
> Mac. Windows Arm runs in a standard VM and Visual Studio runs just
> fine. I have done this. A Mac is already the ultimate "2 in 1"
> computer.

But it’s still a chore to install the necessary development packages.
HomeBrew does its best, but it’s still a poor second to properly
integrated package management.

> So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs". That would be silly
> since MacOS is already Unix.

“Unix” is just a trademark. Linux is technically not “Unix”, but it is
how a system is supposed to work when people think of the term “Unix”.
Apple can’t match that.

> Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new. What is new is the way
> Apple is making it much easier/faster to do. Which comes from Apple
> having VAST experience in working with Unix.

They had that experience 20 years ago. What’s changed?

Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.

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#696138 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-28 10:53 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108pqh8$1d5gf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696115
On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:17:45 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
> 
>> The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal
>> development platform. You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development
>> on a Mac (of course) AND you can already do Windows development on a
>> Mac. Windows Arm runs in a standard VM and Visual Studio runs just
>> fine. I have done this. A Mac is already the ultimate "2 in 1"
>> computer.
> 
> But it’s still a chore to install the necessary development packages.
> HomeBrew does its best, but it’s still a poor second to properly
> integrated package management.
> 
>> So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs". That would be silly
>> since MacOS is already Unix.
> 
> “Unix” is just a trademark. Linux is technically not “Unix”, but it is
> how a system is supposed to work when people think of the term “Unix”.
> Apple can’t match that.
> 
>> Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new. What is new is the way
>> Apple is making it much easier/faster to do. Which comes from Apple
>> having VAST experience in working with Unix.
> 
> They had that experience 20 years ago. What’s changed?
> 
> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.

Yeah!

In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.

Any day now.
🤣🤣🤣

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#696141 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-08-28 12:12 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<Xd%rQ.238557$LeZ.158564@fx11.iad>
In reply to#696138
On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:17:45 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>
>>> The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal
>>> development platform. You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development
>>> on a Mac (of course) AND you can already do Windows development on a
>>> Mac. Windows Arm runs in a standard VM and Visual Studio runs just
>>> fine. I have done this. A Mac is already the ultimate "2 in 1"
>>> computer.
>>
>> But it’s still a chore to install the necessary development packages.
>> HomeBrew does its best, but it’s still a poor second to properly
>> integrated package management.
>>
>>> So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs". That would be silly
>>> since MacOS is already Unix.
>>
>> “Unix” is just a trademark. Linux is technically not “Unix”, but it is
>> how a system is supposed to work when people think of the term “Unix”.
>> Apple can’t match that.
>>
>>> Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new. What is new is the way
>>> Apple is making it much easier/faster to do. Which comes from Apple
>>> having VAST experience in working with Unix.
>>
>> They had that experience 20 years ago. What’s changed?
>>
>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
> 
> Yeah!
> 
> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
> 
> Any day now.
> 🤣🤣🤣

There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither Windows 
nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux server can. 
Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the most money using 
a Linux server software through Azure.

The time has come to admit that Linux will probably never be the default 
operating system on most of our computers. Nevertheless, Linux will 
likely have the greatest _influence_ over our computers going forward 
since its developers have traditionally been better at trying new things 
and taking risks.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
Islam is the enemy
John 14:6

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#696142 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromDaniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date2025-08-28 09:40 -0700
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<871pov1jse.fsf@rpi3>
In reply to#696141
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> writes:

> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:17:45 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>
>>>> The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal
>>>> development platform. You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development
>>>> on a Mac (of course) AND you can already do Windows development on a
>>>> Mac. Windows Arm runs in a standard VM and Visual Studio runs just
>>>> fine. I have done this. A Mac is already the ultimate "2 in 1"
>>>> computer.
>>>
>>> But it’s still a chore to install the necessary development packages.
>>> HomeBrew does its best, but it’s still a poor second to properly
>>> integrated package management.
>>>
>>>> So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs". That would be silly
>>>> since MacOS is already Unix.
>>>
>>> “Unix” is just a trademark. Linux is technically not “Unix”, but it is
>>> how a system is supposed to work when people think of the term “Unix”.
>>> Apple can’t match that.
>>>
>>>> Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new. What is new is the way
>>>> Apple is making it much easier/faster to do. Which comes from Apple
>>>> having VAST experience in working with Unix.
>>>
>>> They had that experience 20 years ago. What’s changed?
>>>
>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>> Yeah!
>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>> Any day now.
>> 🤣🤣🤣
>
> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither Windows
> nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux server
> can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the most money
> using a Linux server software through Azure.
>
> The time has come to admit that Linux will probably never be the
> default operating system on most of our computers. Nevertheless, Linux
> will likely have the greatest _influence_ over our computers going
> forward since its developers have traditionally been better at trying
> new things and taking risks.

I never hoped desktop linux would take a majority percentage in the
market. Linux dominance on the server front is nothing new, and this
will likely never change until something new comes along.

In my opinion, desktop linux should never leave its niche space - some
of us enjoy it as is.

When I was younger, I was hoping Linux could take the gamer's market,
but things have changed so drastically since then that it's
moot... Plus, I'm not a gamer anymore.

D

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#696146 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-28 14:31 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108q7au$1d5gf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696141
On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:17:45 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>
>>>> The point of this is obviously to make Macs the universal
>>>> development platform. You can aleady do Mac/iPhone/iPad development
>>>> on a Mac (of course) AND you can already do Windows development on a
>>>> Mac. Windows Arm runs in a standard VM and Visual Studio runs just
>>>> fine. I have done this. A Mac is already the ultimate "2 in 1"
>>>> computer.
>>>
>>> But it’s still a chore to install the necessary development packages.
>>> HomeBrew does its best, but it’s still a poor second to properly
>>> integrated package management.
>>>
>>>> So - again - Linux is not "taking over Macs". That would be silly
>>>> since MacOS is already Unix.
>>>
>>> “Unix” is just a trademark. Linux is technically not “Unix”, but it is
>>> how a system is supposed to work when people think of the term “Unix”.
>>> Apple can’t match that.
>>>
>>>> Of course, running Linux on a Mac is not new. What is new is the way
>>>> Apple is making it much easier/faster to do. Which comes from Apple
>>>> having VAST experience in working with Unix.
>>>
>>> They had that experience 20 years ago. What’s changed?
>>>
>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>
>> Yeah!
>>
>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>
>> Any day now.
>> 🤣🤣🤣
> 
> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither Windows 
> nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux server can. 
> Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the most money using 
> a Linux server software through Azure.

Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.

> 
> The time has come to admit that Linux will probably never be the default 
> operating system on most of our computers. Nevertheless, Linux will 
> likely have the greatest _influence_ over our computers going forward 
> since its developers have traditionally been better at trying new things 
> and taking risks.
I think that's an awfully bold claim to be making.

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#696159 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-28 19:23 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<iy5sQ.51078$zoSa.23060@fx47.iad>
In reply to#696146
On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>>
>>> Yeah!
>>>
>>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>>
>>> Any day now.
>>> 🤣🤣🤣
>>
>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither Windows 
>> nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux server can. 
>> Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the most money 
>> using a Linux server software through Azure.
> 
> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.


Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the average 
server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#696164 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108qup1$1jukl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696159
On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah!
>>>>
>>>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>>>
>>>> Any day now.
>>>> 🤣🤣🤣
>>>
>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>
>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
> 
> 
> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the average 
> server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
In what way is it "much more designed to function"?

What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?

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#696186 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<0DisQ.421433$jMMa.45600@fx09.iad>
In reply to#696164
On 8/28/2025 9:12 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>>
>>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
>>
>> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
>> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
>> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the 
>> average server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
> In what way is it "much more designed to function"?
> 
> What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?


I didn't even think you were including Mac servers, they exist, that's 
about the most you can say about them, their share is nonexistent 
though, Windows servers are not uncommon, but Linux is where most of 
that market is.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#696244 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-30 12:12 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108v7sv$2naun$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696186
On 2025-08-29 10:16, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> On 8/28/2025 9:12 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>>>
>>>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
>>>
>>> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
>>> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
>>> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the 
>>> average server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
>> In what way is it "much more designed to function"?
>>
>> What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?
> 
> 
> I didn't even think you were including Mac servers, they exist, that's 
> about the most you can say about them, their share is nonexistent 
> though, Windows servers are not uncommon, but Linux is where most of 
> that market is.
You're ducking.

Your specific claim is that "Linux is much more designed to function in 
the average server purposes" and that the claim is "undeniable"...

...so in what particular ways is that "undeniable".

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#696232 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-08-30 08:29 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<O8CsQ.52035$ZTza.20872@fx05.iad>
In reply to#696164
On 2025-08-28 9:12 p.m., Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah!
>>>>>
>>>>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any day now.
>>>>> 🤣🤣🤣
>>>>
>>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>>
>>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
>>
>>
>> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
>> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
>> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the 
>> average server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
> In what way is it "much more designed to function"?
> 
> What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?

Linux doesn't have the overhead that MacOS would have for server 
purposes. You can do pretty much everything in the Linux console whereas 
Apple doesn't usually prioritize that part of their operating system. 
Besides, we've been in this situation before. I recall when Apple tried 
to push its Gx series servers in the mid-2000s. Absolutely no one wanted 
them because the performance was laughable whereas the cost was 
enormous. If I remember correctly, the company also expected you to do 
everything through a GUI.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
Islam is the enemy
John 14:6

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#696243 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-30 12:11 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<108v7qr$2naun$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#696232
On 2025-08-30 08:29, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-08-28 9:12 p.m., Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any day now.
>>>>>> 🤣🤣🤣
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>>>
>>>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
>>> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
>>> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the 
>>> average server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
>> In what way is it "much more designed to function"?
>>
>> What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?
> 
> Linux doesn't have the overhead that MacOS would have for server 
> purposes.

What overhead would that be?

> You can do pretty much everything in the Linux console whereas 
> Apple doesn't usually prioritize that part of their operating system. 

It doesn't put it forward to ordinary users...

...but it still exists.

> Besides, we've been in this situation before. I recall when Apple tried 
> to push its Gx series servers in the mid-2000s. Absolutely no one wanted 
> them because the performance was laughable whereas the cost was 
> enormous. If I remember correctly, the company also expected you to do 
> everything through a GUI.
But you didn't have to.

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#696247 — Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-08-30 12:35 -0400
SubjectRe: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement
Message-ID<nLFsQ.80609$68E2.70132@fx43.iad>
In reply to#696243
On 2025-08-30 12:11 p.m., Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-30 08:29, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2025-08-28 9:12 p.m., Alan wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-28 19:23, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/2025 2:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-08-28 12:12, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-08-28 10:53 a.m., Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-08-28 00:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux is becoming more and more dominant, that’s what’s changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the last two years it's gone from 3.12% share to 3.98%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any day now.
>>>>>>> 🤣🤣🤣
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no denying that Linux owns the server market. Neither 
>>>>>> Windows nor Mac OS can deliver the kind of advantages a mere Linux 
>>>>>> server can. Nevertheless, Microsoft seems to be the one making the 
>>>>>> most money using a Linux server software through Azure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where the chief "advantage" is cost, yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, idiot, you're so desperate to make a point about your lame 
>>>> platform, that you say something so stupid, no, Windows servers have 
>>>> their place, but Linux is much more designed to function in the 
>>>> average server purposes, that is undeniable, you are a moron.
>>> In what way is it "much more designed to function"?
>>>
>>> What does it have that macOS would not that makes it better as a server?
>>
>> Linux doesn't have the overhead that MacOS would have for server 
>> purposes.
> 
> What overhead would that be?

The necessity of a GUI to execute the tasks you would complete in the 
Linux console. If you can demonstrate how there is no need for a GUI on 
a Mac server compared to a Linux server, you are free to do so.

>> You can do pretty much everything in the Linux console whereas Apple 
>> doesn't usually prioritize that part of their operating system. 
> 
> It doesn't put it forward to ordinary users...
> 
> ...but it still exists.

People who manage servers aren't ordinary users.

>> Besides, we've been in this situation before. I recall when Apple 
>> tried to push its Gx series servers in the mid-2000s. Absolutely no 
>> one wanted them because the performance was laughable whereas the cost 
>> was enormous. If I remember correctly, the company also expected you 
>> to do everything through a GUI.
> But you didn't have to.

Prove it.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
Islam is the enemy
John 14:6

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