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| Started by | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-08-24 04:52 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-08-31 08:23 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 333 — 17 participants |
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"Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 04:52 -0400
Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 09:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 05:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:23 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:34 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:24 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:36 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:47 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:53 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:18 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 16:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 01:36 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:56 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-28 17:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:10 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-02 19:46 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:34 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:35 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:58 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:54 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-24 22:18 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:45 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:18 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:22 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:38 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 19:41 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:11 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 22:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 03:13 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 20:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 04:09 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:58 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 05:44 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:12 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 10:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2025-08-28 09:40 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 14:31 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:11 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 00:08 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:14 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-29 00:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 03:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:19 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-29 16:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 21:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-30 04:41 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-30 10:36 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 13:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 00:22 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 20:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 14:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 19:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:47 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 17:05 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:01 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:10 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 19:32 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:34 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:04 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 16:56 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 12:20 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 17:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:15 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 18:46 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 07:18 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 00:55 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-03 01:14 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 21:52 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 18:15 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 07:30 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 08:31 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:31 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:14 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:15 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 16:23 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 21:00 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 19:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 09:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:09 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 19:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 16:45 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 19:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 17:13 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 21:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 21:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 22:24 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 20:32 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:22 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:11 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:28 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 16:41 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 14:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:09 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:54 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:15 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:58 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 20:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-06 00:51 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 18:01 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 21:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 19:02 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 12:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 13:32 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 20:09 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 13:14 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 10:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:16 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 12:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 10:11 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 14:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-01 20:29 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-02 00:34 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 09:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 13:59 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 16:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 17:05 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:41 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:47 -0500
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:00 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:22 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 09:04 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:58 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 13:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:45 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 21:24 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:30 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:07 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:13 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 03:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 09:47 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Nick Charles <blankety_blank@blank> - 2025-08-24 13:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 21:56 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:26 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 04:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:01 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:38 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:31 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:27 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:21 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:40 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:18 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:56 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:58 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:34 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:59 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:51 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 19:18 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:10 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:14 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:36 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 21:51 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:40 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 18:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 21:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:28 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:31 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:25 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 12:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:23 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 14:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 15:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:20 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 22:51 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 19:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:52 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:13 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:22 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 19:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 19:46 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:40 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:30 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:26 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-24 23:49 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:25 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:34 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:44 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:15 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:20 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:26 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:49 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:59 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:46 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:38 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:32 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 13:58 -0500
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-28 07:07 -0500
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 00:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 20:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 01:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:06 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 13:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:59 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 21:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 14:19 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 13:02 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 11:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 20:40 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 13:51 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 21:51 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-07 18:31 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 23:17 +0000
Re: "Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:12 +0000
Re: "Sorry, Linux Fans: This OS Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement" RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 08:23 +0000
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 19:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <mhovskF2rq2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #696388 |
On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 07:10:39 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <109659f$bco7$3@dont-email.me>: > No, that’s part of what the “Unix philosophy” is about, or perhaps > better renamed the “*nix philosophy” now, since the one OS still in > common use that has licensed the “Unix” trademark You appear to be mired in the 90's. There is no =| “Unix” trademark |= . You have been corrected on this multiple times. "UNIX® is a registered trademark of The Open Group." "Unix" is the description of a family of POSIX-compliant operating systems. Linux is a Unix, but is not UNIX® MacOS is a Unix, and is also UNIX®. "*nix" was a term used in the 90's, until this matter was cleared up. > does not, and > actually has never (since its NextStep days) abided by that > philosophy. The NeXTStep GUI got grafted onto OS X. If someone wants to do something similar on Linux, there is GNUStep or if you want the NeXT "look and feel", AfterStep. http://www.afterstep.org/ Once again, you are stuck in the 90's. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.16.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G "You were destined to read this tagline at this moment."
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 20:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <1098bmj$tlur$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #696388 |
On 2025-09-02 00:10, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:57:43 +0000, Tyrone wrote: > >> On Aug 27, 2025 at 12:56:58 AM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 01:36:35 +0000, Tyrone wrote: >>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2025 at 7:37:45 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" >>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apple created entirely separate OSes for its phones and its >>>>> tablets >>>> >>>> What? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. iOS is >>>> a fork of MacOS (OS X at the time). >>> >>> Completely different GUI, therefore completely different kernel. >>> The GUI is not a separate, modular layer, remember. >> >> Instead of continuing to dig yourself into a hole, just admit that >> you know nothing about Operating Systems in general and Apple in >> particular. >> >> OF COURSE the GUI is a separate layer. That's part of what Unix is >> all about. Modular, portable and scalable. > > No, that’s part of what the “Unix philosophy” is about, or perhaps > better renamed the “*nix philosophy” now, since the one OS still in > common use that has licensed the “Unix” trademark does not, and > actually has never (since its NextStep days) abided by that > philosophy. > > No, the macOS GUI is *not* a separate, modular layer, like on Linux. > Are there alternative GUIs available, like on common Linux distros? > Can you install it without a GUI at all, like on Linux, and administer > it remotely via SSH? Can you login on text consoles, like on Linux? > > No, and no, and no. macOS Can you install it without a GUI? No. Can you administer it remotely via SSH? Yes. Can you login in via text console? Yes. Shows what you know.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 05:32 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <mh2aqgF7hvsU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #695826 |
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:24:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <108g3f6$32gqg$14@dont-email.me>: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:16:39 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > >> The Apple-centric software *largely* sucks (although selected apps are >> great, Microsoft Office and Adobe's stuff are better than on Windows, >> imo), the Unix features are incomplete. > > There was a thing called “the Unix philosophy”. Though perhaps we should > nowadays call it “the *nix philosophy”. > > One of its principles is “mechanism, not policy”. The OS kernel and core > userland should, as far as possible, not prejudge the ways in which users, > developers and admins may want to deploy the system; let them configure > it, and build higher custom layers on top of it, to do whatever they want. > > Consider how *nix display servers like X11, and now Wayland, conform to > this philosophy, by being separate modular, replaceable layers that > operate entirely in userland. And they are not GUIs in themselves: the > actual GUIs are additional higher layers on top of them, that are modular > and replaceable in themselves. > > Consider how Apple breaks this philosophy, by inextricably binding its > particular conception of a GUI tightly into its OS kernel. ...not unlike other Unix workstations of yore. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.16.2 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G "He who places head in sand, will get kicked in the end!"
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 05:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108gsl3$380rp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695904 |
None of them did that. That’s the point.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 09:06 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108kbg9$21ks$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695905 |
On 8/25/25 01:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> None of them did that. That’s the point.
Think you're reaching pretty far back there buddy, back to when Unix
didn't have any GUI...
But even then, I can recall us having a Unix mini in the office circa
1983 - - it wasn't my project, but I can recall that the guy working on
it ran into issues because its flavor of Unix wasn't the same flavor
that they were familiar with, which apparently came down to which
manufacturer ("brand") the hardware was.
-hh
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 00:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108ljsa$br9n$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #696004 |
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:06:17 -0400, -hh wrote: > On 8/25/25 01:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> None of them did that. That’s the point. > > Think you're reaching pretty far back there buddy, back to when Unix > didn't have any GUI... Precisely the point. Once X11 came along, it was embraced as a common GUI standard among *all* the Unix vendors, even those who had put some effort into developing quite advanced proprietary concepts of their own (e.g. Sun’s NeWS). So you see, a core part of what made for a “Unix” system was, from quite early on, modularity and replaceability that extended to the GUI. I think Steve Jobs’ NeXT was an exception. Funnily enough, that struggled to make an impact. His was very much a voice in the wildnerness, until his company was acquired by a moribund Apple, and he returned as “iCEO” of the merged organization.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 08:58 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <yhDrQ.642800$xyt3.108997@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #696050 |
On 2025-08-26 8:35 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:06:17 -0400, -hh wrote: > >> On 8/25/25 01:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> None of them did that. That’s the point. >> >> Think you're reaching pretty far back there buddy, back to when Unix >> didn't have any GUI... > > Precisely the point. Once X11 came along, it was embraced as a common GUI > standard among *all* the Unix vendors, even those who had put some effort > into developing quite advanced proprietary concepts of their own (e.g. > Sun’s NeWS). > > So you see, a core part of what made for a “Unix” system was, from quite > early on, modularity and replaceability that extended to the GUI. > > I think Steve Jobs’ NeXT was an exception. Funnily enough, that struggled > to make an impact. His was very much a voice in the wildnerness, until his > company was acquired by a moribund Apple, and he returned as “iCEO” of the > merged organization. I watched a documentary about Jobs's time at NeXT. To say the least, they were lucky they survived and that Canon was dumb enough to keep pumping money into the project. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage Islam is the enemy John 14:6
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 15:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108g577$3215v$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695823 |
On 2025-08-24 15:16, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 5:34 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>> But please elaborate: >>>> >>>> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation? >>> >>> It has the potential to be a great Unix platform, but ends up being >>> just a proprietary GUI by dull minds at a cult company, when all is >>> said and done, at exorbitant prices. It's a money pit, even more >>> than Windows systems are. >> Your claim was that it is "quirky". >> >> Justify that claim. > > > The Apple-centric software *largely* sucks (although selected apps are > great, Microsoft Office and Adobe's stuff are better than on Windows, > imo), the Unix features are incomplete. It's a total bizarro world to > me, compared to Windows or Linux. You claim it is "quirky". None of what you just wrote explains that claim.
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| From | Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-05 15:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <109fd6r$2juee$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695814 |
On 8/24/2025 5:34 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2025-08-24 13:36, Joel W. Crump wrote: >> On 8/24/2025 2:23 PM, Alan wrote: >> >>>> the typical home user is better off with something else [than a >>>> Mac], because of the ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even >>>> if they like macOS, it's just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe >>>> they have money to burn, I could understand that, but it would never >>>> click with me even if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain >>>> doesn't work that way to prefer Apple's quirkware. >>> >>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please. >>> >>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my >>> experience, this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years. >>> >>> That's $37 a month. >>> >>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I >>> very much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the >>> difference is about $25/month. >>> >>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry. >> >> >> The point is, for that price, you could've gotten more hardware with >> another platform. It's like buying a Hyundai over a Honda, is it >> literally as good, maybe not in someone's OCD mind, but it's clearly a >> better value financially. >> > > And had a far worse overall experience. > > I know how to use macOS, Windows (every version), Linux... > > ...and I know what works well. > > I also know that of the hundreds of people I've seen transition to using > Macs, only two (yes: literally just 2) have ever expressed any desire to > return to Windows and one of those was a man in his 70s who was just too > set in his ways to change at that age. > One of those was me. Does that make 3?
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 22:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108g32r$32qtm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695801 |
On 2025-08-24, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/24/2025 2:23 PM, Alan wrote: > >>> the >>> typical home user is better off with something else [than a Mac], because of the >>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS, >>> it's just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe they have money to >>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even >>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that >>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware. >> >> "Ridiculous expense"? Please. >> >> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my experience, >> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years. >> >> That's $37 a month. >> >> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very >> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference is >> about $25/month. >> >> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry. > > > The point is, for that price, you could've gotten more hardware with > another platform. It's like buying a Hyundai over a Honda, is it > literally as good, maybe not in someone's OCD mind, but it's clearly a > better value financially. With the exception of storage and "maybe" RAM, more doesn't equate equally between platforms. The efficiency of the OS and application software plays a big part so just because you have a higher clocked CPU and more memory for the same amount of money doesn't mean something like Photoshop will run better on the higher hardware spec with Windows vs Mac. And on that same note, Alan is correct in that the user experience is a combination of software and hardware. One without the other is useless. You really seem to have a lot of freaky, obtuse issues with computers that you are either unable to accurately describe or are fantasizing about. Maybe you should find another hobby? Just a suggestion. > >> But please elaborate: >> >> What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation? > > > It has the potential to be a great Unix platform, but ends up being just > a proprietary GUI by dull minds at a cult company, when all is said and > done, at exorbitant prices. It's a money pit, even more than Windows > systems are. > -- pothead "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices. Then our choices make us." -- Anne Frank
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 18:33 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <nrMqQ.83489$xtoa.64863@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #695824 |
On 8/24/2025 6:18 PM, pothead wrote: > On 2025-08-24, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 8/24/2025 2:23 PM, Alan wrote: >> >>>> the >>>> typical home user is better off with something else [than a Mac], because of the >>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS, >>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe they have money to >>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even >>>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that >>>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware. >>> >>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please. >>> >>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my experience, >>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years. >>> >>> That's $37 a month. >>> >>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very >>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference is >>> about $25/month. >>> >>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry. >> >> The point is, for that price, you could've gotten more hardware with >> another platform. It's like buying a Hyundai over a Honda, is it >> literally as good, maybe not in someone's OCD mind, but it's clearly a >> better value financially. > > With the exception of storage and "maybe" RAM, more doesn't equate equally between > platforms. > The efficiency of the OS and application software plays a big part so just because you have > a higher clocked CPU and more memory for the same amount of money doesn't mean something like > Photoshop will run better on the higher hardware spec with Windows vs Mac. I guess. But Apple is still weird, even if it somehow makes such great use of their paltry offerings of hardware. > And on that same note, Alan is correct in that the user experience is a combination > of software and hardware. One without the other is useless. > > You really seem to have a lot of freaky, obtuse issues with computers that you are either > unable to accurately describe or are fantasizing about. > Maybe you should find another hobby? > Just a suggestion. Au contraire, I get results. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced back hard. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 15:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108g4n6$3215t$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695831 |
On 2025-08-24 15:33, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 6:18 PM, pothead wrote: >> On 2025-08-24, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 8/24/2025 2:23 PM, Alan wrote: >>> >>>>> the >>>>> typical home user is better off with something else [than a Mac], >>>>> because of the >>>>> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS, >>>>> it's just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe they have money to >>>>> burn, I could understand that, but it would never click with me even >>>>> if I did have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that >>>>> way to prefer Apple's quirkware. >>>> >>>> "Ridiculous expense"? Please. >>>> >>>> Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my experience, >>>> this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years. >>>> >>>> That's $37 a month. >>>> >>>> Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very >>>> much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference is >>>> about $25/month. >>>> >>>> That's hardly a huge barrier to entry. >>> >>> The point is, for that price, you could've gotten more hardware with >>> another platform. It's like buying a Hyundai over a Honda, is it >>> literally as good, maybe not in someone's OCD mind, but it's clearly a >>> better value financially. >> >> With the exception of storage and "maybe" RAM, more doesn't equate >> equally between >> platforms. >> The efficiency of the OS and application software plays a big part so >> just because you have >> a higher clocked CPU and more memory for the same amount of money >> doesn't mean something like >> Photoshop will run better on the higher hardware spec with Windows vs >> Mac. > > > I guess. But Apple is still weird, even if it somehow makes such great > use of their paltry offerings of hardware. HOW is it weird? I'm guessing by "weird" you really mean, "does something in a way /I/ don't like. And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? > > >> And on that same note, Alan is correct in that the user experience is >> a combination >> of software and hardware. One without the other is useless. >> >> You really seem to have a lot of freaky, obtuse issues with computers >> that you are either >> unable to accurately describe or are fantasizing about. >> Maybe you should find another hobby? >> Just a suggestion. > > > Au contraire, I get results. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has > karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced back hard. Nothing killed my MacBook Pro except extreme old age, and even then, I could have fixed it, if I'd wanted to.
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 19:06 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <gWMqQ.32959$4HM4.31619@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #695833 |
On 8/24/2025 6:45 PM, Alan wrote: >> Apple is still weird, even if it somehow makes such >> great use of their paltry offerings of hardware. > > HOW is it weird? I'm guessing by "weird" you really mean, "does > something in a way /I/ don't like. It's not a matter of what I like, it's functionality. Microsoft puts the special touch of forethought to make it intuitive. > And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? Are you kidding? Do the comparisons of devices offered. You'll see it fast. Apple is expensive. >> I get results [from using computers]. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has >> karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced back hard. > Nothing killed my MacBook Pro except extreme old age, and even then, I > could have fixed it, if I'd wanted to. I will salvage the parts from my dead computer, when I have real money to spend on a fresh motherboard. But for now, the mini PC has replaced it. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 16:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108g6kq$33rva$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695841 |
On 2025-08-24 16:06, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 6:45 PM, Alan wrote: > >>> Apple is still weird, even if it somehow makes such great use of >>> their paltry offerings of hardware. >> >> HOW is it weird? I'm guessing by "weird" you really mean, "does >> something in a way /I/ don't like. > > > It's not a matter of what I like, it's functionality. Microsoft puts > the special touch of forethought to make it intuitive. And yet you cannot articulate a single example. Got it. > > >> And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? > > > Are you kidding? Do the comparisons of devices offered. You'll see it > fast. Apple is expensive. More expensive, yes. Stipulated. In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". Or do you just not know what the word actually means? > > >>> I get results [from using computers]. Everyone makes mistakes, >>> everyone has karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced >>> back hard. > >> Nothing killed my MacBook Pro except extreme old age, and even then, I >> could have fixed it, if I'd wanted to. > > > I will salvage the parts from my dead computer, when I have real money > to spend on a fresh motherboard. But for now, the mini PC has replaced it. So you've had to buy two computers... ...so what is their combined cost?
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 19:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <MoNqQ.31785$%E5f.7507@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #695846 |
On 8/24/2025 7:18 PM, Alan wrote: >>> And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? >> >> Are you kidding? Do the comparisons of devices offered. You'll see >> it fast. Apple is expensive. > > More expensive, yes. Stipulated. > > In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". > > Or do you just not know what the word actually means? Let's say the default configuration comes with 16 GB RAM, the next step up will be 24 rather than 32, for a large sum. It's lame. >>>> I get results [from using computers]. Everyone makes mistakes, >>>> everyone has karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced >>>> back hard. >> >>> Nothing killed my MacBook Pro except extreme old age, and even then, >>> I could have fixed it, if I'd wanted to. >> >> I will salvage the parts from my dead computer, when I have real money >> to spend on a fresh motherboard. But for now, the mini PC has >> replaced it. > So you've had to buy two computers... > > ...so what is their combined cost? It was the result of bad judgment in accepting a pirated TV show video file, a chain of events that destroyed a perfectly good computer. But I can deal with it. The mini PC was about $200, came with Win11 Pro, not as bad as I thought too, I was gonna take a look and quickly put Linux on it, but now I'm not so sure, with 24H2's improvements in performance. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 18:16 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108gdh9$34h32$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695852 |
On 2025-08-24 16:39, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 7:18 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>> And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? >>> >>> Are you kidding? Do the comparisons of devices offered. You'll see >>> it fast. Apple is expensive. >> >> More expensive, yes. Stipulated. >> >> In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". >> >> Or do you just not know what the word actually means? > > > Let's say the default configuration comes with 16 GB RAM, the next step > up will be 24 rather than 32, for a large sum. It's lame. That's about COST. With computers, what matters in terms of "paltry" is capacities. > > >>>>> I get results [from using computers]. Everyone makes mistakes, >>>>> everyone has karma, that's what killed my computer, but I bounced >>>>> back hard. >>> >>>> Nothing killed my MacBook Pro except extreme old age, and even then, >>>> I could have fixed it, if I'd wanted to. >>> >>> I will salvage the parts from my dead computer, when I have real >>> money to spend on a fresh motherboard. But for now, the mini PC has >>> replaced it. > >> So you've had to buy two computers... >> >> ...so what is their combined cost? > > > It was the result of bad judgment in accepting a pirated TV show video > file, a chain of events that destroyed a perfectly good computer. But I > can deal with it. The mini PC was about $200, came with Win11 Pro, not > as bad as I thought too, I was gonna take a look and quickly put Linux > on it, but now I'm not so sure, with 24H2's improvements in performance. I note you don't give me an actual cost... ...let alone how much time this all took you.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 18:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108gdsf$34h34$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695852 |
On 2025-08-24 16:39, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 7:18 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>> And what makes their offerings "paltry" exactly? >>> >>> Are you kidding? Do the comparisons of devices offered. You'll see >>> it fast. Apple is expensive. >> >> More expensive, yes. Stipulated. >> >> In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". >> >> Or do you just not know what the word actually means? > > > Let's say... ...that you snipped this exchange, because you had nothing? >>> It's not a matter of what I like, it's functionality. Microsoft puts the special touch of forethought to make it intuitive. >> >> And yet you cannot articulate a single example. >> >> Got it. Well?
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 21:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <x8PqQ.389386$6hp4.184@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #695873 |
On 8/24/2025 9:22 PM, Alan wrote: >>> In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". >>> >>> Or do you just not know what the word actually means? >> >> Let's say... > > ...that you snipped this exchange, because you had nothing? You're the one playing that game, you snipped what I said, because it demonstrates you "have nothing" to contradict the point, Apple is pricey >>>> It's not a matter of what I like, it's functionality. Microsoft >>>> puts the special touch of forethought to make it intuitive. >>> >>> And yet you cannot articulate a single example. >>> >>> Got it. > > Well? The way Finder is operated is not robust. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 19:41 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <108gigi$366gg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695879 |
On 2025-08-24 18:38, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/24/2025 9:22 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>> In what way are the devices they offer "paltry". >>>> >>>> Or do you just not know what the word actually means? >>> >>> Let's say... >> >> ...that you snipped this exchange, because you had nothing? > > > You're the one playing that game, you snipped what I said, because it > demonstrates you "have nothing" to contradict the point, Apple is pricey > > >>>>> It's not a matter of what I like, it's functionality. Microsoft >>>>> puts the special touch of forethought to make it intuitive. >>>> >>>> And yet you cannot articulate a single example. >>>> >>>> Got it. >> >> Well? > > > The way Finder is operated is not robust. > Aside from not being a correct English sentence, I was asking about INTUITIVENESS... ...and you have again neglected to articulate a way in which the Finder... ...or ANY OTHER part of the Mac operating system is less intuitive than Windows.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 04:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement |
| Message-ID | <mh2635F7hvsU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #695790 |
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:23:05 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in <108flaa$2vcpq$2@dont-email.me>: > On 2025-08-24 02:44, Joel W. Crump wrote: >> On 8/24/2025 5:32 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>>> But no, buying a fucking Mac is not the answer. It's too expensive. >>> >>> And lacking in expandability and versatility. All Apple’s machines are >>> basically just glorified laptops now. >>> >>> And the OS may have licensed the “Unix” trademark, but it doesn’t work >>> the way people expect traditional “Unix” systems to work. >>> >>> Ask one of the original Bell Labs crew, Ken “Mr Unix” Thompson: he has >>> given up on Apple and switched to Linux. >> >> >> Right, it's a freakin' joke, if you ask me, there are *selected* >> functions of macOS software that outshine the competition, but the >> typical home user is better off with something else, because of the >> ridiculous expense of the Apple platform, even if they like macOS, it's >> just throwing money down the toilet. Maybe they have money to burn, I >> could understand that, but it would never click with me even if I did >> have a billion dollars, because my brain doesn't work that way to >> prefer Apple's quirkware. >> >> > "Ridiculous expense"? Please. > > Yes: my MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,200CAD, but based on my experience, > this is a computer I can easily use for the next 5 years. > > That's $37 a month. > > Even if a decent laptop with Linux cost me a third of that (and I very > much doubt you can find one as good for that number), the difference is > about $25/month. > > That's hardly a huge barrier to entry. > > But please elaborate: > > What makes Apple's technology so "quirky" in your estimation? They put the window buttons on the wrong side of the titlebar. ;) Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with higher end Macs for what you get. I wouldn't wish a Mac mini on my worst enemy, though. Someone said Macs weren't extendable -- but they are, with Thunderbolt, which is basically "external PCIE". Same guy said Macs "weren't really Unix" (paraphrased), but has never explained what he means by that, and I daresay he's never used a Mac command line -- which is bash, in a POSIX+ environment. There's something to be said about people with no knowledge or experience with a system making claims about it. I'll not say it personally, but leave it to others to decide. But having said all that: Linux is still a better environment for _my_ needs, which includes a recent installation of a document management system, using docker. (Do Macs have docker? Do they even have containers? Beats me.) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.16.2 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G "We are upping our standards... so up yours."
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