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  Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> - 2025-08-15 08:40 +0000
    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-15 10:02 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-08-15 11:00 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 19:37 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-15 23:25 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 02:25 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 04:14 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 05:40 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 08:32 +0000
                  Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 00:31 +0000
                    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-17 00:43 +0000
                      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing The Ref <ref@creon.earth> - 2025-08-17 10:24 +0000
                      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-17 11:17 +0000
                        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-17 11:26 +0000
                          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-17 10:08 -0400
                          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-08-19 13:50 +0000
                            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-08-19 14:14 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 08:01 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 08:28 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-16 09:02 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 09:27 +0000
                  Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 10:36 +0000
                    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 23:46 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 23:16 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 23:57 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 19:36 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-15 18:54 +0000
    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-15 11:20 -0400
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-08-15 15:43 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 15:52 -0400
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 20:03 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-15 20:32 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:50 -0700
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 22:10 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-16 09:38 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 19:44 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-15 20:24 +0000
    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 10:54 -0700
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-15 18:21 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:20 -0700
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 07:38 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 20:15 +0000
    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-15 20:53 +0200
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-15 19:02 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-15 20:19 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-15 22:20 +0200
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-16 01:57 +0200
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-08-19 13:40 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-08-19 14:09 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 07:43 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-16 13:12 +0200
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 07:39 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-16 13:14 +0200
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-16 10:40 -0400
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 15:10 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-17 09:42 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-17 13:10 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-16 15:48 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 23:21 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-17 00:03 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-17 00:05 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 19:33 +0000
                  Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-18 18:18 +0000
                    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 00:32 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-17 10:12 +0000
                Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-17 10:16 +0000
                  Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-18 18:08 +0000
                    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-18 19:22 +0000
                      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Scott Doty <dooty@dooty.net> - 2025-08-19 10:42 -0400
                        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-22 03:59 +0000
              Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 19:29 +0000
            Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-17 10:05 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 09:31 +0000
    Re: Farley Fucktard Is The Stupidest Person (was: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-16 00:16 +0000
      Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 05:12 +0000
        Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-17 09:03 +0000
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-17 09:31 -0400
          Re: Drag And Drop Is The Cleverest Thing Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:20 +0000
    Re: Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing Not Necessary <not@necessary.invalid> - 2025-08-17 05:08 +0000

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#694916

On 2025-08-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-08-15 11:21, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:54:58 -0700, Alan wrote:
>> 
>>> You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a
>>> reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".
>>>
>> 
>> I really don't have to provide anything "beyond."
>> 
>> The lunacy of "drag and drop" should be innately obvious to any
>> technically competent person.
>
> And yet you cannot articulate it.
>
> Got it.

What in the world is wrong with drag and drop? I use it all the time when I 
want to sub-divide files (photos, for example) into folders under different 
categories. Whatever works best for a specific purpose. There's no "one way" 
to do anything, thankfully.

-- 
Definition of Insanity: Thinking you can 
beat the Bear on his own territory.

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#694858

Le 15-08-2025, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> a écrit :
> On 2025-08-15 01:40, Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever.  D&D is all
>> over the place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it
>> belongs.
>> 
>> But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots.  I certainly have
>> never used it and none of my GUI software supports it.  D&D
>> does exist, I assume, inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.
>> 
>> Do you need to copy/move files?  Just open a file manager
>> with a split pane that allows directory contents to be listed
>> side-by-side.  Then woosh!  A quick keypress and it's done!
>> 
>> What more could one ask for?
>> 
>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>> the mental variety.
>> 
>> Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is
>> a slick counterexample.
> You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a 
> reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".

Two things.

First, of course he has no technical argument. He has no skill. He must
hide it behind insults. Well, it's not exactly true. He has one skill:
it's to be able to break the strongest parts of Linux.

Second, it's not "waaaaaah!", it's "HAAAAAAA HAA HAAA". If you have ever
seen any of his videos, he's laughing like a maniac. If you have never
seen any of his videos, you've lost nothing. He's only laughing in front
of a black screen pretending he's mastering Linux. And he can do it for
half an hour (I've never seen completely his videos, so maybe I lost
something bu I doubt it). But the fact is: his laugh can't be mistaken.

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#694844

W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
> the mental variety.

This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, 
without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

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#694848

On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:53:57 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:


> 
> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, 
> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>

Wrong on all counts.

D&D is totally optional in every software package.

If not, then it's developers need to be shot.





-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#694859

Le 15-08-2025, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> a écrit :
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>> the mental variety.
>
> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! 

You don't know the moron? You look surprised.

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https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#694860

W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>> the mental variety.
> 
> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, 
> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer 
word processor.

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#694883

W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>> the mental variety.
>>
>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like 
>> Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and 
>> nonsense!!!
> 
> The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer 
> word processor.

The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for 
e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.

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#695208

🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote at 23:57 this Friday (GMT):
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>>> the mental variety.
>>>
>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like 
>>> Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and 
>>> nonsense!!!
>> 
>> The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer 
>> word processor.
>
> The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for 
> e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.


GUI file managers and Desktop file icons also use drag and drop.
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#695214

On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:40:08 +0000, candycanearter07 wrote:

> 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote at 23:57 this Friday (GMT):
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>>>> the mental variety.
>>>>
>>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
>>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like 
>>>> Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and 
>>>> nonsense!!!
>>> 
>>> The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer 
>>> word processor.
>>
>> The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for 
>> e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.
> 
> 
> GUI file managers and Desktop file icons also use drag and drop.
>

This post proves my assertion that there are no gurus on this dump,
but only ignoramus dumb-fucks.

To effect true D&D (and not the copy-paste actions in CAD, etc.) an
Interprocess Communication (IPC) is required.  Currently, IPC within
desktop environments is effected with dbus.  IOW, if one wants D&D
then one must have IPC and IPC is usually only characteristic of a
desktop environment (DE).  But not all GNU/Linux systems (certainly
not mine) are DEs.  Outside of a DE there will be no D&D and that
is the only way to go.

An intelligent person (none on this dump) would have immediately
assocated the OP with the degeneracy of DEs.

Get some brains and then come back.

 




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#694918

On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>> the mental variety.
>> 
>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, 
>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>
> The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer 
> word processor.

Have you tried dragging and dropping into LibreOffice Writer? It works for 
me. Not that I like drag and drop for documents.

-- 
Definition of Insanity: Thinking you can 
beat the Bear on his own territory.

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#694948

W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:43, RonB pisze:
> On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>>> the mental variety.
>>>
>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender,
>>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>>
>> The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
>> word processor.
> 
> Have you tried dragging and dropping into LibreOffice Writer? It works for
> me. Not that I like drag and drop for documents.

It seems that you really need detail explanation (this is opposite 
polish proverb "Wise head know/understand in two words"): Drag and drop 
feature is not limited to inter process communication. D&D is 
intensively used inside applications. In LO Writer I intense use D&D 
when I embed images in my docs in order to visually correct they position.

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#694917

On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>> the mental variety.
>
> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like 
> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, 
> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.

-- 
Definition of Insanity: Thinking you can 
beat the Bear on his own territory.

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#694949

W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
> On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>> the mental variety.
>>
>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender,
>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
> 
> Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.

Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

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#694963

On 2025-08-16 7:14 a.m., 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
> W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
>> On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>>> the mental variety.
>>>
>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender,
>>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>>
>> Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.
> 
> Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

I mostly agree with you, but Larry "Farley Flud/Diego Garcia/Lester 
Thorpe" Pietraskiewicz is such an unforgivable cretin that the only 
place for him is inside a killfile.

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God be with you,

CrudeSausage
Islam is the enemy
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#694970

> On 2025-08-16 7:14 a.m., 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
> Killfile is against freedom of speech. 

No. Killfile don't stop people to speak. It stops you to read what they
say. There's a huge difference. You can't read every newspaper published
in the world: you have to chose which one you read and which one you
don't. Refusing to read some newspaper isn't against freedom of speech
because you still let them express themselves. The killfile is the same:
you don't stop others to express themselves, you stop you to take care
of it.

Sometimes people ask others to stop answering people who are in their
killfile. And that is against freedom of speech. But in modern time, you
have to choose what you read and what you don't because you just don't
have time to read everything. So the killfile is just a way to select
what you read. It's not against freedom of speech.

I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.

> I swear I will never use killfile!!!

You do what you want. But for my information, do you read all the
messages of all the groups? Because if you select only some groups it
looks like a sort of killfile.

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#695039

On 16 Aug 2025 15:10:48 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
in <68a09f78$0$423$426a34cc@news.free.fr>:

> I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
> It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
> you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
> stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.

Well that sucks.

Have you considered an account at eternal-september.org or
individual.net?  The former is gratis, and the latter is 10 euros/yr.
Text only.

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#695061

Le 17-08-2025, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> On 16 Aug 2025 15:10:48 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
> in <68a09f78$0$423$426a34cc@news.free.fr>:
>
>> I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
>> It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
>> you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
>> stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.
>
> Well that sucks.

In a way, yes because sometimes I don't see interesting messages. Often,
interesting messages get an answer and I can see them through the
answer. Other times, I don't see interesting messages at all. But I
can't see everything that's worth of reading. More interesting books are
printed in a month than I can read in my life. It's the same with the
Internet blogs. So, I need filter to avoid just running after impossible
things. And it's a kind of help to pass less time involved with Usenet.

> Have you considered an account at eternal-september.org or
> individual.net?  The former is gratis, and the latter is 10 euros/yr.
> Text only.

/bin/bash: ligne 1: q: commande introuvable
my ISP. The choosing part meaning I considered alternatives.

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#694971

On Aug 16, 2025 at 7:14:59 AM EDT, "🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱"
<jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:

> W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
>> On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
>>>> the mental variety.
>>> 
>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender,
>>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>> 
>> Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.
> 
> Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

I really hope you are joking here.  Or are you yet another person who has no
idea what "freedom of speech" means?

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#694995

On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:14:59 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

> W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
>> On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
>>>> Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of the
>>>> mental variety.
>>>
>>> This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
>>> Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
>>> Blender,
>>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!
>> 
>> Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your
>> friend.
> 
> Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use
> killfile!!!

Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are 
wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

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#695000

On 16 Aug 2025 23:21:00 GMT, rbowman wrote:
 
> Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves
> are wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

You aren't one those pitiful souls who cackle to the world that they have 
just kill-filed someone, as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny penis 
larger by having done so, are you?

If you want to kill-file someone, just do it and go about your business.  
There is no need to prance and strut, seeing how much attention you can 
suck up, in front of the board participants while announcing an imminent 
kill-file inclusion, as if anyone really gives two shits one way or 
another.

Self-importance is one of the ugliest and most pathetic of human traits.



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