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  these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 18:12 +0000
    Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-04 15:28 -0400
      Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 21:15 +0000
        Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-04 17:59 -0400
          Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 23:18 +0000
          Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-05 13:40 -0500
            Re: Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-05 18:46 -0400
              Re: Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-05 22:15 -0500
                Re: Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-06 10:50 -0400
              Re: Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-05 22:20 -0500
                Buh-bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-06 08:11 -0400
                  Re: Buh-bye Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-06 07:28 -0500
                    Re: Buh-bye Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-06 08:43 -0400
                  Re: Buh-bye Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-06 08:41 -0400
                  Re: Buh-bye chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-06 07:59 -0500
                    Re: Buh-bye DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-06 10:55 -0400
                    Re: Buh-bye William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-06 22:25 +0100
        Re: these muslims Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-04-12 13:32 +0200
      Re: these muslims Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-04-12 13:23 +0200
        Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 11:31 -0400
          Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 10:41 -0700
            Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:56 +0000
              Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 15:49 -0400
        Re: these muslims Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-12 13:18 -0400
          Re: these muslims JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-13 09:23 -0500
    Re: these muslims John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-04-04 15:26 -0700
      Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 23:33 +0000
        Re: these muslims DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:48 -0400
          Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 14:31 +0000
            Re: these muslims Charlie Croyden <charlescroyden3@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 07:50 -0700
        Re: these muslims "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-05 08:34 -0400
          Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 14:11 +0000
          Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:18 -0600
            Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 20:03 +0000
    Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-05 13:28 -0500
    Radical Muslims, Nazis, KKK are Social Conservatives Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-04-05 14:08 -0500
    Re: these muslims Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-04-12 13:12 +0200
      Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 11:29 -0400
        Re: these muslims DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-12 12:54 -0400
          Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 15:39 -0400
      Re: these muslims Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-12 13:18 -0400
        Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 17:38 +0000
        Re: these muslims ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 17:48 +0000
          Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:23 +0000
          Re: these muslims Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-12 16:25 -0400
            Little Beaver Chris Ahlstrom Is Still A Kid. He Likes To Wipe Pee Pees While Reading Mad Magazine. Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-12 16:33 -0400
            Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 20:51 +0000
          Re: these muslims JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-13 09:19 -0500
        Re: these muslims chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-13 09:22 -0500
      Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 10:33 -0700
        Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:51 +0000
          Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 11:55 -0700
            Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-12 19:06 +0000
            Re: these muslims Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-12 15:10 -0400
              Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 15:59 -0400
                Re: these muslims Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-12 16:20 -0400
                  Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-12 20:44 -0400
              Re: these muslims JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-13 09:20 -0500
      Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-12 13:09 -0600
      Re: these muslims JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-13 09:18 -0500
        Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-13 12:45 -0400
        Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 17:17 +0000
          Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-13 13:23 -0400
        Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-13 12:22 -0600
          Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 11:27 -0700
            Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 18:57 +0000
              Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 12:09 -0700
                Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-13 20:35 -0600
                  Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 19:51 -0700
                    Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:03 -0700
                  Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:04 -0700
              Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 12:10 -0700
                Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-13 19:33 +0000
                  Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 12:37 -0700
                    Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 13:11 -0700
                    Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-14 07:22 +0000
                      Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-14 08:45 -0700
                  Re: these muslims Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 13:08 -0700
            Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-13 13:04 -0600
              Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 12:08 -0700
                Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-13 20:32 -0600
                  Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 19:54 -0700
                    Re: these muslims owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-14 07:41 +0000
                      Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-14 08:44 -0700
          Re: these muslims Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-13 17:49 -0400
            Re: these muslims GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-13 20:28 -0600
              Re: these muslims Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-13 19:50 -0700

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#289424

On 2015-04-13 10:18 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>
>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>
>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>> civil war.
>>
>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>> a rotter.
>
>      I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>
>      So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>
>      He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>
> [deletia].

<http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/nyregion/muslims-in-new-york-city-unite-on-push-to-add-holidays-to-school-calendar.html?_r=0>

<http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/nyregion/new-york-to-add-two-muslim-holy-days-to-public-school-calendar.html>

<http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/070111> - "Outside of 
Muslim-run countries, Paris — which still experiences nightly vehicle 
torchings and mayhem in its Islamic neighborhoods — has the largest."

<http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/09/angle-two-american-cities-under-sharia-law/>

Tell yourself that Obama wants you guys to be tolerant of these assholes.

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#289432

JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>
>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>
>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a 
>> civil war.
>>
>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is 
>> a rotter.

>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.

>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.

>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Shariah_in_American_Courts1.pdf

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#289433

On 2015-04-13 1:17 PM, owl wrote:
> JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>
>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>> civil war.
>>>
>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>> a rotter.
>
>>      I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>
>>      So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>
>>      He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>
> http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Shariah_in_American_Courts1.pdf

The fact that they would even consider it is disgusting.


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#289453

JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>
>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>
>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>> civil war.
>>
>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>> a rotter.
> 
>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
> 
>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
> 
>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
> 
> [deletia]
> 
http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
kennedy/article10724396.html

When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate 
into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and 
the hell with the indigenous people.
There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.

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#289454

On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
_dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>> 
>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>> civil war.
>>> 
>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>> a rotter.
>> 
>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>> 
>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>> 
>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>> 
>> [deletia]
>> 
> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
> kennedy/article10724396.html
> 
> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
> the hell with the indigenous people.
> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
> 
The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.

As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
be toward all these presidents.


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#289460

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
> wrote:

>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>> 
>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>>> civil war.
>>>> 
>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>>> a rotter.
>>> 
>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>>> 
>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>>> 
>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>>> 
>>> [deletia]
>>> 
>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>> kennedy/article10724396.html
>> 
>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
>> the hell with the indigenous people.
>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>> 
> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.

> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
> the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
> be toward all these presidents.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
<quote>
Eisenhower’s actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by Obama.

The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
</quote>

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#289464

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:57:55 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
> > _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
> > wrote:
> 
> >> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
> >>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
> >>>> civil war.
> >>>> 
> >>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
> >>>> a rotter.
> >>> 
> >>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
> >>> 
> >>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
> >>> 
> >>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
> >>> 
> >>> [deletia]
> >>> 
> >> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
> >> kennedy/article10724396.html
> >> 
> >> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
> >> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
> >> the hell with the indigenous people.
> >> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
> >> 
> > The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.
> 
> > As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
> > the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
> > be toward all these presidents.
> 
> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
> <quote>
> Eisenhower's actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by Obama.
> 
> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
> </quote>

Snit's argument here is a bullsh*t argument anyway. Obama is the current POTUS so *today's* outrage rightfully belongs to him.

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#289586

Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:57:55 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> > On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
>> > _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
>> > <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>> >>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>> >>>> civil war.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer
>> >>>> is a rotter.
>> >>> 
>> >>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>> >>> 
>> >>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>> >>> 
>> >>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>> >>> 
>> >>> [deletia]
>> >>> 
>> >> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>> >> kennedy/article10724396.html
>> >> 
>> >> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not
>> >> integrate into your society... they try to change it to their own
>> >> belief system and the hell with the indigenous people.
>> >> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>> >> 
>> > The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and
>> > growing.
>> 
>> > As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president
>> > since the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either
>> > false or should be toward all these presidents.
>> 
>> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
>> <quote>
>> Eisenhower's actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by
>> Obama.
>> 
>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
>> </quote>
> 
> Snit's argument here is a bullsh*t argument anyway. Obama is the current
> POTUS so *today's* outrage rightfully belongs to him.

That much is certain.  What bothers me is why hasn't congress started the 
impeachment proceedings?  POTUS has violated the separation of powers as it 
is.  He has more impeachable violations that Carter has little liver pills.

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#289591

On 4/13/15, 7:35 PM, in article
Guydndr7LbNB4bHInZ2dnUU7-d-dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

>>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>>> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
>>> </quote>
>> 
>> Snit's argument here is a bullsh*t argument anyway. Obama is the current
>> POTUS so *today's* outrage rightfully belongs to him.
> 
> That much is certain.  What bothers me is why hasn't congress started the
> impeachment proceedings?  POTUS has violated the separation of powers as it
> is.  He has more impeachable violations that Carter has little liver pills.

If the Republicans thought they had a chance in hell to successfully impeach
him they would. Heck, look at how they tried it with Clinton because he had
an affair. 


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#289609

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 4/13/15, 7:35 PM, in article
> Guydndr7LbNB4bHInZ2dnUU7-d-dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> >>> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> >>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
> >>> </quote>
> >> 
> >> Snit's argument here is a bullsh*t argument anyway. Obama is the current
> >> POTUS so *today's* outrage rightfully belongs to him.
> > 
> > That much is certain.  What bothers me is why hasn't congress started the
> > impeachment proceedings?  POTUS has violated the separation of powers as it
> > is.  He has more impeachable violations that Carter has little liver pills.
> 
> If the Republicans thought they had a chance in hell to successfully impeach
> him they would. Heck, look at how they tried it with Clinton because he had
> an affair. 


LOL! Another topic Snit is clueless about... what a shock ;)

Clinton *was* impeached by the House, Glueball...

"Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

This is for the other clue you're missing, Snit, to clear up your obvious confusion:

"Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

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#289610

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 8:35:10 PM UTC-6, GreyCloud wrote:
> Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:57:55 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> > On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
> >> > _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
> >> > <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
> >> >>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
> >> >>>> civil war.
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer
> >> >>>> is a rotter.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> [deletia]
> >> >>> 
> >> >> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
> >> >> kennedy/article10724396.html
> >> >> 
> >> >> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not
> >> >> integrate into your society... they try to change it to their own
> >> >> belief system and the hell with the indigenous people.
> >> >> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
> >> >> 
> >> > The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and
> >> > growing.
> >> 
> >> > As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president
> >> > since the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either
> >> > false or should be toward all these presidents.
> >> 
> >> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
> >> <quote>
> >> Eisenhower's actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by
> >> Obama.
> >> 
> >> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> >> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> >> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
> >> </quote>
> > 
> > Snit's argument here is a bullsh*t argument anyway. Obama is the current
> > POTUS so *today's* outrage rightfully belongs to him.
> 
> That much is certain.  What bothers me is why hasn't congress started the 
> impeachment proceedings?  POTUS has violated the separation of powers as it 
> is.  He has more impeachable violations that Carter has little liver pills.

It's not politically popular ;)

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#289465

On 4/13/15, 11:57 AM, in article mbjdi3.gkj2@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
>> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
>> wrote:
> 
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>>>> civil war.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>>>> a rotter.
>>>> 
>>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>>>> 
>>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>>>> 
>>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>>>> 
>>>> [deletia]
>>>> 
>>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>>> kennedy/article10724396.html
>>> 
>>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
>>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
>>> the hell with the indigenous people.
>>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>>> 
>> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.
> 
>> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
>> the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
>> be toward all these presidents.
> 
> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
> <quote>
> Eisenhower’s actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by Obama.
> 
> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
> </quote>
> 
It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
job than past presidents. Fair enough.


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#289467

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/15, 11:57 AM, in article mbjdi3.gkj2@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
>>> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>>>>> civil war.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>>>>> a rotter.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>>>>> 
>>>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>>>>> 
>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>>>> kennedy/article10724396.html
>>>> 
>>>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
>>>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
>>>> the hell with the indigenous people.
>>>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>>>> 
>>> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.
>> 
>>> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
>>> the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
>>> be toward all these presidents.
>> 
>> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
>> <quote>
>> Eisenhower’s actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by Obama.
>> 
>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>> Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
>> </quote>
>> 
> It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
> job than past presidents. Fair enough.

What is that supposed to even mean?  Congress "doing its job" according
to Democrats means keeping up with the Joneses as to enacted legisation
count.  Stop and think about that for a minute.  Why should the number
of laws passed be a measure of anything other than increased government
intrusion in our lives?  We've got more federal laws on the books already
than can ever be enforced, outside of a selective, partisan targeting.
But to Democrats it would seem that a high legisation count is a sign
of a Congress that is doing good work.

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#289468

On 4/13/15, 12:33 PM, in article hgbf83.jgr@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>>> Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
>>> </quote>
>>> 
>> It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
>> job than past presidents. Fair enough.
> 
> What is that supposed to even mean?  Congress "doing its job" according
> to Democrats means keeping up with the Joneses as to enacted legisation
> count.  Stop and think about that for a minute.  Why should the number
> of laws passed be a measure of anything other than increased government
> intrusion in our lives?

Because not all laws are about intrusion.

> We've got more federal laws on the books already than can ever be enforced,
> outside of a selective, partisan targeting. But to Democrats it would seem
> that a high legisation count is a sign of a Congress that is doing good work.

They are hired to legislate. They failed to do so. They shut the government
down from their inaction and bickering.


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#289474

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 4/13/15, 12:33 PM, in article hgbf83.jgr@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> >>> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> >>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
> >>> </quote>
> >>> 
> >> It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
> >> job than past presidents. Fair enough.
> > 
> > What is that supposed to even mean?  Congress "doing its job" according
> > to Democrats means keeping up with the Joneses as to enacted legisation
> > count.  Stop and think about that for a minute.  Why should the number
> > of laws passed be a measure of anything other than increased government
> > intrusion in our lives?
> 
> Because not all laws are about intrusion.
> 
> > We've got more federal laws on the books already than can ever be enforced,
> > outside of a selective, partisan targeting. But to Democrats it would seem
> > that a high legisation count is a sign of a Congress that is doing good work.
> 
> They are hired to legislate. 

There is immigration legislation. That Obama, you or or anyone else doesn't like it is irrelevant to the point as to whether or not he's following it.

> They failed to do so. 

False, there is immigration legislation.

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#289614

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/15, 12:33 PM, in article hgbf83.jgr@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>>>> Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>>>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
>>>> </quote>
>>>> 
>>> It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
>>> job than past presidents. Fair enough.
>> 
>> What is that supposed to even mean?  Congress "doing its job" according
>> to Democrats means keeping up with the Joneses as to enacted legisation
>> count.  Stop and think about that for a minute.  Why should the number
>> of laws passed be a measure of anything other than increased government
>> intrusion in our lives?

> Because not all laws are about intrusion.

Do you think that there will ever come a time when we have enough laws
and don't need any more?

>> We've got more federal laws on the books already than can ever be enforced,
>> outside of a selective, partisan targeting. But to Democrats it would seem
>> that a high legisation count is a sign of a Congress that is doing good work.

> They are hired to legislate. They failed to do so. They shut the government
> down from their inaction and bickering.

They are hired to be the body that enacts legislation when legislation is
needed.  That is not to say that the number of laws per month they pass
should be the measure of their success.  I personally would rather they
sit there all year and drink coffee and shoot the breeze with each other
than pass unneeded laws just to be passing laws.

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#289669

On 4/14/15, 12:22 AM, in article riugm7.jg92@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/15, 12:33 PM, in article hgbf83.jgr@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
>>>>> Obama’s. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
>>>>> by Congress, as opposed to Obama’s reaction to congressional inaction.
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>> 
>>>> It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
>>>> job than past presidents. Fair enough.
>>> 
>>> What is that supposed to even mean?  Congress "doing its job" according
>>> to Democrats means keeping up with the Joneses as to enacted legisation
>>> count.  Stop and think about that for a minute.  Why should the number
>>> of laws passed be a measure of anything other than increased government
>>> intrusion in our lives?
> 
>> Because not all laws are about intrusion.
> 
> Do you think that there will ever come a time when we have enough laws
> and don't need any more?

Once conditions stop changing? Once we stop learning? Not sure.

>>> We've got more federal laws on the books already than can ever be enforced,
>>> outside of a selective, partisan targeting. But to Democrats it would seem
>>> that a high legisation count is a sign of a Congress that is doing good
>>> work.
> 
>> They are hired to legislate. They failed to do so. They shut the government
>> down from their inaction and bickering.
> 
> They are hired to be the body that enacts legislation when legislation is
> needed.  That is not to say that the number of laws per month they pass
> should be the measure of their success.

Correct... but they should do their jobs. And they refuse.

> I personally would rather they
> sit there all year and drink coffee and shoot the breeze with each other
> than pass unneeded laws just to be passing laws.

I do not think anyone is asking them to do that.


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#289473

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 1:33:42 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > On 4/13/15, 11:57 AM, in article mbjdi3.gkj2@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
> >>> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
> >>>>>> civil war.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
> >>>>>> a rotter.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> [deletia]
> >>>>> 
> >>>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
> >>>> kennedy/article10724396.html
> >>>> 
> >>>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
> >>>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
> >>>> the hell with the indigenous people.
> >>>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
> >>>> 
> >>> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and growing.
> >> 
> >>> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president since
> >>> the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false or should
> >>> be toward all these presidents.
> >> 
> >> http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/
> >> <quote>
> >> Eisenhower's actions were not at all like the one being undertaken by Obama.
> >> 
> >> The actions taken by Reagan and George H.W. Bush bear more resemblance to
> >> Obama's. But they came in response to an immigration overhaul approved
> >> by Congress, as opposed to Obama's reaction to congressional inaction.
> >> </quote>
> >> 
> > It is true Obama has had to deal with a congress more unwilling to do its
> > job than past presidents. Fair enough.
> 
> What is that supposed to even mean? 

It means that Snit needs a clue that even kids have:

http://www.congressforkids.net/Constitution_threebranches.htm

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#289461

Snit wrote:

> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>> 
>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>>> civil war.
>>>> 
>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>>> a rotter.
>>> 
>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>>> 
>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>>> 
>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>>> 
>>> [deletia]
>>> 
>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>> kennedy/article10724396.html
>> 
>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
>> the hell with the indigenous people.
>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>> 
> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and
> growing.
> 
> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president
> since the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false
> or should be toward all these presidents.
> 
> 
It isn't that, it's the open borders in the south that is a problem as well.
The muslims religion demands justice... well, they should understand that 
the U.S. Constitution will give them that justice.  Plus, they won't 
integrate into the society that they have decided to join.  They won't, and 
they seem to have an agenda.

The amnesty program before Obama was unusual in that a condemned prisoners 
case was reviewed and the president would grant amnesty if they thought his 
case was just.  But letting everyone in without any law,... is lawless.
Obama refuses to obey the law.

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#289463

On 4/13/15, 12:04 PM, in article
L9ydnRMqy_HUjrHInZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 4/13/15, 11:22 AM, in article
>> _dqdnY6Jt83ylLHInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-04-12, Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> wrote:
>>>>> Op 04-04-15 om 20:12 schreef owl:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What should we do about these cockroaches?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately there is nothing left "we" can do, without starting a
>>>>> civil war.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may thank our leftist governments for that and especially 0bummer is
>>>>> a rotter.
>>>> 
>>>>     I don't see Sharia Law districts in any of OUR capitals.
>>>> 
>>>>     So I'm not seeing why Obummer is such a villain here.
>>>> 
>>>>     He might be a wannabe villain but that's about all...
>>>> 
>>>> [deletia]
>>>> 
>>> http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-
>>> kennedy/article10724396.html
>>> 
>>> When your country is importing a lot of muslims, they will not integrate
>>> into your society... they try to change it to their own belief system and
>>> the hell with the indigenous people.
>>> There are U.S. laws for immigration, but Obama will not obey the law.
>>> 
>> The US has a lot of Muslims... something like 2.5 to 3 million and
>> growing.
>> 
>> As far as Obama's amnesty programs, every single Republican president
>> since the 1950s has had one as well. The outrage over it is either false
>> or should be toward all these presidents.
>> 
>> 
> It isn't that, it's the open borders in the south that is a problem as well.
> The muslims religion demands justice... well, they should understand that
> the U.S. Constitution will give them that justice.  Plus, they won't
> integrate into the society that they have decided to join.  They won't, and
> they seem to have an agenda.

As with Christians, some do and some do not.

But I will grant that a comedian can do a joke about getting a blow job from
Jesus without much risk to his life... do the same thing with Mohammad and
you are at much higher risk.

> The amnesty program before Obama was unusual in that a condemned prisoners
> case was reviewed and the president would grant amnesty if they thought his
> case was just.  But letting everyone in without any law,... is lawless.
> Obama refuses to obey the law.

The ones before were mostly large amnesty programs.

Really we need to re-think how we handle immigration. Clearly it is not
working.


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