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  Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-15 19:57 -0400
    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 01:05 +0000
      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-15 21:15 -0400
        Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 06:00 +0000
          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 11:05 +0000
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 18:24 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:13 +0000
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 23:41 +0000
                  Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 19:48 -0400
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-17 01:06 +0100
                      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:44 -0400
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 04:13 +0000
                      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:49 -0400
                        Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-17 13:58 +0000
                          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 10:11 -0400
                          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:25 +0000
          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 11:09 +0000
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-17 11:35 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:21 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:13 -0700
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:28 +0000
          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 08:50 -0400
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:19 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:57 -0400
        Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 12:50 +0000
          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 09:03 -0400
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-16 14:55 +0100
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-16 10:07 -0400
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 19:01 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-16 21:14 +0000
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:19 +0000
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:50 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 09:00 -0400
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-17 13:56 +0000
                  Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 10:08 -0400
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:11 +0000
                  Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 23:19 +0000
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-18 20:50 +0000
                      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 21:20 +0000
                      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-19 00:24 +0000
                  Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:05 +0000
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:30 +0000
                  Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 12:20 -0400
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-17 19:17 +0000
                    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 00:11 +0000
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:37 +0000
          Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-16 18:42 +0000
            Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 09:02 +0000
              Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:16 +0000
                Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 00:15 +0000
    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 22:10 -0400
    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-17 19:26 +0000
      Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:36 -0400
    Re: Linux provides software to study the Bible, out of the box Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:54 -0400

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#689124

On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:13:43 -0700, % wrote:

> vallor wrote:
>> On 16 Apr 2025 11:09:55 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
>> <m69hg3Fk9skU3@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2025 06:00:58 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>>> <m68vcpFn125U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>>>
>>> BTW, thought about adding this ppa -- just looked, and they have cmake
>>> in there.  tsk, tsk -- why would they do that?
>> 
>> Investigated this further.  Couldn't add the ppa because it doesn't
>> support Ubuntu Noble -- /plus/, it turns out Xiphos is already in
>> Ubuntu Noble.
>> 
>> So on Linux Mint 22.1, I just needed to sudo apt install xiphos.
>> 
> that's  not all you need

Since xiphos is a C++ for the sword libraries it wants to pull in a lot of 
stuff including imagemagick. There's also

Suggested packages:
  imagemagick-6-doc  ffmpeg   hp2xx       mplayer   texlive-base-bin  
sword-text
  autotrace          gnuplot  html2ps     povray    transfig          
festival
  enscript           grads    libwmf-bin  radiance  libraw-bin

which makes me think that sooner or later you will wish you had them.

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#689023

On 2025-04-16 02:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:15:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the
>>>> Bible but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our
>>>> resident homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of
>>>> avoiding Hell.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment
>>> out of the box:
>>>
>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>
>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>
>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
> 
> UbuntuCE does include Xiphos but it is a third party application that is
> also available for Windows and Unix. I'm not sure about MacOS. Other than
> UbuntuCE it isn't included in any distribution 'out of the box'. That's
> like saying Linux provides 'John the Ripper'.  That also runs on Linux,
> Windows, and other OSs. As far as 'out of the box', iirc you have to
> select one of the packages even in Kali.
> 
> Other than the CE build, not out of the box on Ubuntu. You have to add a
> PPA since some of the prerequisites aren't in the standard Ubuntu
> packages.
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
> 
> 
> "One does well to put on gloves when reading the New Testament. The
> proximity of so much uncleanliness almost forces one to do this."
> 
> Friedrich Nietzsche

I couldn't give one poop what Nietzsche has to say on any matter. The 
fact that I was forced to study this cretin is inexcusable.

> As far as the Old Testament, Marcion had the right idea. No reason to be
> concerned with the Jews and their genocidal tribal god. New day, new
> covenant.

I can tell I'm talking to someone who doesn't love God or understand His 
nature.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689063

On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-16 02:00, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:15:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the
>>>>> Bible but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our
>>>>> resident homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of
>>>>> avoiding Hell.
>>>>
>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment
>>>> out of the box:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>
>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>
>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>> 
>> UbuntuCE does include Xiphos but it is a third party application that is
>> also available for Windows and Unix. I'm not sure about MacOS. Other than
>> UbuntuCE it isn't included in any distribution 'out of the box'. That's
>> like saying Linux provides 'John the Ripper'.  That also runs on Linux,
>> Windows, and other OSs. As far as 'out of the box', iirc you have to
>> select one of the packages even in Kali.
>> 
>> Other than the CE build, not out of the box on Ubuntu. You have to add a
>> PPA since some of the prerequisites aren't in the standard Ubuntu
>> packages.
>> 
>> https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>> 
>> 
>> "One does well to put on gloves when reading the New Testament. The
>> proximity of so much uncleanliness almost forces one to do this."
>> 
>> Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> I couldn't give one poop what Nietzsche has to say on any matter. The 
> fact that I was forced to study this cretin is inexcusable.

Wasn't Friedrich Nietzsche Hitler's hero?

>> As far as the Old Testament, Marcion had the right idea. No reason to be
>> concerned with the Jews and their genocidal tribal god. New day, new
>> covenant.
>
> I can tell I'm talking to someone who doesn't love God or understand His 
> nature.

The Old Testament is not about the "Jews" it's about the people who were 
supposed to be worshiping God, who (unfortunately) often reverted to 
paganism (just like so many Christians do today). "Jew" was derived from 
"Judaen" which was just one of the tribes of Israel. And yet Abraham is 
usually called a "Jew" by people who are clueless. How could he be a "Jew" 
before Judah was born?

Modern Judaism is not the Old Covenant religion. That ceased when the Temple 
was destroyed (actually probably when veil between the Holy Place and the 
Holy of Holies was ripped from top to bottom at Christ's death). Biblical 
Judaism relied on animal sacrifices in anticipation of Christ's ultimate 
sacrifice. After Christ was sacrificed on the cross there was no need for 
the Temple or its anticipatory sacrifices. The Old Testament was superseded. 
True worshipers of God, before Christ, looked forward to the arrival of the 
Messiah, Christians look back to it.

Rabbinical Judaism is based on the "traditions of the elders" ("which made 
the law of God of non-effect"). The traditions were codified into the 
Babylonian Talmud, as a counter to the true New Covenant religion, 
Christianity. The Old Covenant religion had passed away a century, or so, 
before Rabbinical Judaism took its place. (The two are not related.) You 
don't have to read much of the Talmud to see that it is pure, satanic filth. 
(It was okay to rape a young girl because the hymen "heals" itself, kind of 
like when being poked in the eye, it repairs itself.) You'll find the 
rabbis actually discussing this kind of filth in the Talmud. (And you 
wondered why Hollywood was so full pedophiles.)

At any rate, the Old Testament and New Testament are both from the same God. 
(Which was going to be my original point.) 

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#689080

On 2025-04-17 04:19, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-16 02:00, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:15:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the
>>>>>> Bible but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our
>>>>>> resident homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of
>>>>>> avoiding Hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment
>>>>> out of the box:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>
>>> UbuntuCE does include Xiphos but it is a third party application that is
>>> also available for Windows and Unix. I'm not sure about MacOS. Other than
>>> UbuntuCE it isn't included in any distribution 'out of the box'. That's
>>> like saying Linux provides 'John the Ripper'.  That also runs on Linux,
>>> Windows, and other OSs. As far as 'out of the box', iirc you have to
>>> select one of the packages even in Kali.
>>>
>>> Other than the CE build, not out of the box on Ubuntu. You have to add a
>>> PPA since some of the prerequisites aren't in the standard Ubuntu
>>> packages.
>>>
>>> https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>>>
>>>
>>> "One does well to put on gloves when reading the New Testament. The
>>> proximity of so much uncleanliness almost forces one to do this."
>>>
>>> Friedrich Nietzsche
>>
>> I couldn't give one poop what Nietzsche has to say on any matter. The
>> fact that I was forced to study this cretin is inexcusable.
> 
> Wasn't Friedrich Nietzsche Hitler's hero?

I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised. Every lesson I ever had on 
Nietzsche made me wish I could get that time back.

>>> As far as the Old Testament, Marcion had the right idea. No reason to be
>>> concerned with the Jews and their genocidal tribal god. New day, new
>>> covenant.
>>
>> I can tell I'm talking to someone who doesn't love God or understand His
>> nature.
> 
> The Old Testament is not about the "Jews" it's about the people who were
> supposed to be worshiping God, who (unfortunately) often reverted to
> paganism (just like so many Christians do today).

This is definitely true. Just this morning, I parked next to one of my 
colleagues and noticed that he had Aboriginal garbage in his vehicle. 
Apparently, believing in Christ is ridiculous but believing in dream 
catchers is just fine.

> "Jew" was derived from
> "Judaen" which was just one of the tribes of Israel. And yet Abraham is
> usually called a "Jew" by people who are clueless. How could he be a "Jew"
> before Judah was born?
> 
> Modern Judaism is not the Old Covenant religion. That ceased when the Temple
> was destroyed (actually probably when veil between the Holy Place and the
> Holy of Holies was ripped from top to bottom at Christ's death). Biblical
> Judaism relied on animal sacrifices in anticipation of Christ's ultimate
> sacrifice. After Christ was sacrificed on the cross there was no need for
> the Temple or its anticipatory sacrifices. The Old Testament was superseded.
> True worshipers of God, before Christ, looked forward to the arrival of the
> Messiah, Christians look back to it.
> 
> Rabbinical Judaism is based on the "traditions of the elders" ("which made
> the law of God of non-effect"). The traditions were codified into the
> Babylonian Talmud, as a counter to the true New Covenant religion,
> Christianity. The Old Covenant religion had passed away a century, or so,
> before Rabbinical Judaism took its place. (The two are not related.) You
> don't have to read much of the Talmud to see that it is pure, satanic filth.
> (It was okay to rape a young girl because the hymen "heals" itself, kind of
> like when being poked in the eye, it repairs itself.) You'll find the
> rabbis actually discussing this kind of filth in the Talmud. (And you
> wondered why Hollywood was so full pedophiles.)
> 
> At any rate, the Old Testament and New Testament are both from the same God.
> (Which was going to be my original point.)

For long, I've seen the New Testament as the only thing worthy of study. 
However, I've come to understand that Jesus himself saw it as 
authoritative, so it is clear that I need to learn more about it. I'm 
just glad that someone bothered to translate it into the kind of English 
average people can understand.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689024

On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>> Hell.
>> 
>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>> of the box:
>> 
>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>> 
>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>
> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your 
> choice of Bible version from within the software.

Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their 
notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying 
on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#689027

On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>> Hell.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>> of the box:
>>>
>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>
>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>
>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
> 
> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.

That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I 
have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some 
experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some 
having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the 
same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used, 
but the meaning isn't altered in any way.

I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by 
homosexuals or progressives.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689029

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

[...]

> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by 
> homosexuals or progressives.
>

What does your book have to say about Linux?

-- 
^Ï^.      Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#689031

On 2025-04-16 09:55, Sn!pe wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>> homosexuals or progressives.
>>
> 
> What does your book have to say about Linux?

I actually looked this up. The Christian position is that proprietary 
formats are unethical. Therefore, the priority should be to use 
OpenDocument over Office Open XML.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689041

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:03:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.

I prefer the Jerusalem Bible, anything but the KJV. 

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#689042

On 16 Apr 2025 19:01:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:03:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
> 
> I prefer the Jerusalem Bible, anything but the KJV.
>

What a couple of dumbfuck assholes.

Haven't you fucking retards ever heard of the Apocrypha or Pseudopigrapha?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudepigrapha

Get outa here!  This group is for knowledgeable people only.


-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#689046

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 21:14:04 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$77274$95402562$372af382$562d7ff3@linux.rocks>:

> On 16 Apr 2025 19:01:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:03:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but
>>> I have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to
>>> some experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another
>>> with some having more chapters than others, but their meaning is
>>> essentially the same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in
>>> the wording used,
>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>> 
>> I prefer the Jerusalem Bible, anything but the KJV.
>>
>>
> What a couple of dumbfuck assholes.
> 
> Haven't you fucking retards ever heard of the Apocrypha or
> Pseudopigrapha?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudepigrapha
> 
> Get outa here!  This group is for knowledgeable people only.

What does this have to do with a) Linux, and b) the price of
tea in China?

ObLinuxTool: In the bible-kjv package, the concordance-creating
tool is a perl script, "makeconc.pl".

$ egrep -v "^#|^$" makeconc.pl | wc -l
40

perl is a powerhouse.

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh.."

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#689064

On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>> Hell.
>>>>
>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>> of the box:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>
>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>
>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>> 
>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>
> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I 
> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some 
> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some 
> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the 
> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used, 
> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>
> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by 
> homosexuals or progressives.

The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly 
pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and 
Protestants followed their example. 

Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews 
rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or 
Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).

   12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient 
   to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, 
   and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have 
   knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to 
   us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us, 
   because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are 
   strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our 
   ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts 
   that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us 
   test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man 
   is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his 
   adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find 
   out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us 
   condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will 
   be protected.”

This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also 
a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by 
Catholic saints.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#689081

On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>
>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>
>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>
>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>> homosexuals or progressives.
> 
> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
> Protestants followed their example.
> 
> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
> 
>     12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>     to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>     and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>     knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>     us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>     because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>     strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>     ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>     that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>     test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>     is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>     adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>     out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>     condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>     be protected.”
> 
> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
> Catholic saints.

The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and 
that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only 
confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for. 
Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.

Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689083

On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>>
>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>>
>>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>>> homosexuals or progressives.
>> 
>> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
>> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
>> Protestants followed their example.
>> 
>> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
>> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
>> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
>> 
>>     12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>>     to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>>     and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>>     knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>>     us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>>     because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>>     strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>>     ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>>     that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>>     test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>>     is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>>     adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>>     out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>>     condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>>     be protected.”
>> 
>> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
>> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
>> Catholic saints.
>
> The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and 
> that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only 
> confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for. 
> Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.
>
> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?
>

Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
American Christians have such a hard on for Israel?  You think they'd be
a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.

Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...

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#689086

On 2025-04-17 09:56, Borax Man wrote:
> On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>>>
>>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>>>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>>>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>>>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>>>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>>>
>>>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>>>> homosexuals or progressives.
>>>
>>> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
>>> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
>>> Protestants followed their example.
>>>
>>> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
>>> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
>>> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
>>>
>>>      12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>>>      to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>>>      and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>>>      knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>>>      us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>>>      because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>>>      strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>>>      ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>>>      that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>>>      test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>>>      is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>>>      adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>>>      out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>>>      condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>>>      be protected.”
>>>
>>> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
>>> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
>>> Catholic saints.
>>
>> The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and
>> that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only
>> confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for.
>> Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.
>>
>> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?
>>
> 
> Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
> American Christians have such a hard on for Israel?

Because American values, whether they want to admit it or not, are 
similar to those of Jews. Nevertheless, I am not a fan of the term 
because I don't believe that Jews, practicing or not, have any respect 
for our religion. American Christians, for their part, seem to love 
Israel because they believe the government narrative that it is "the 
greatest ally in the Middle East." Again, I don't see it that way since 
they do little other than suck the American tit.

> You think they'd be
> a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.
> 
> Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...

Agreed.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689128

On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-17 09:56, Borax Man wrote:
>> On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-17 04:50, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-16 08:50, RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/15/25 21:05, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 19:57:01 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know that it probably won't interest most people, but I thought that
>>>>>>>>> was pretty cool. Knowing that a distribution provides not only the Bible
>>>>>>>>> but notes to help you study the content is neat. Maybe if our resident
>>>>>>>>> homosexual gets acquainted with it, he will have a chance of avoiding
>>>>>>>>> Hell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you talking about UbuntuCE?  If you're looking for enlightenment out
>>>>>>>> of the box:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bodhilinux.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bodhi Linux appears to be more of a minimalist philosophical statement
>>>>>>>> rather than any specific Buddhist content.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I was referring to Xiphos which allows you to download your
>>>>>>> choice of Bible version from within the software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently no Catholic Bible with the deuterocanonicals. I'm guessing their
>>>>>> notes are skewed against the Catholic Church. Hopefully they're not relying
>>>>>> on the Scofield Bible notes in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is quite possible. I downloaded the New English Translation, but I
>>>>> have no idea whether it skews in one way or another. According to some
>>>>> experts I've read from, Bibles vary from one region to another with some
>>>>> having more chapters than others, but their meaning is essentially the
>>>>> same. Apparently, there are about forty differences in the wording used,
>>>>> but the meaning isn't altered in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I trust the Bible, but I don't trust the interpretations made by
>>>>> homosexuals or progressives.
>>>>
>>>> The deuterocanonicals are an important part of the Bible. They clearly
>>>> pointed to Christ, which is why the Jews eventually threw them out, and
>>>> Protestants followed their example.
>>>>
>>>> Here's an excerpt from Wisdom 2:12-20. This may help explain why the Jews
>>>> rejected the deuterocanonicals (they were originally in the LXX or
>>>> Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible).
>>>>
>>>>      12. “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient
>>>>      to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law,
>>>>      and accuses us of sins against our training. 13. He professes to have
>>>>      knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14. He became to
>>>>      us a reproof of our thoughts; 15. the very sight of him is a burden to us,
>>>>      because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are
>>>>      strange. 16. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our
>>>>      ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts
>>>>      that God is his father. 17. Let us see if his words are true, and let us
>>>>      test what will happen at the end of his life; 18. for if the righteous man
>>>>      is God’s son, he will help him and will deliver him from the hand of his
>>>>      adversaries. 19. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find
>>>>      out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20. Let us
>>>>      condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will
>>>>      be protected.”
>>>>
>>>> This was written centuries before Christ's death on the cross. There's also
>>>> a lot about the Virgin Mary in the deuterocanonicals, as interpreted by
>>>> Catholic saints.
>>>
>>> The fact that such a thing would be written centuries before Christ and
>>> that the events would unfold in almost exactly the same manner only
>>> confirms that Jesus was exactly the Messiah the Jews were waiting for.
>>> Their continued resistance to Him is ridiculous.
>>>
>>> Where would I be able to find the deuterocanonicals?
>>>
>> 
>> Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
>> American Christians have such a hard on for Israel?
>
> Because American values, whether they want to admit it or not, are 
> similar to those of Jews. Nevertheless, I am not a fan of the term 
> because I don't believe that Jews, practicing or not, have any respect 
> for our religion. American Christians, for their part, seem to love 
> Israel because they believe the government narrative that it is "the 
> greatest ally in the Middle East." Again, I don't see it that way since 
> they do little other than suck the American tit.

It goes deeper than politics. Christians were purposely indoctrinated into 
believing in such a thing as Christian "Zionism." For well over a century 
now. Originally it was a Protestant phenomenon but it's even infected 
Vatican II Catholics now.

>> You think they'd be
>> a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.
>> 
>> Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...
>
> Agreed.

Exactly.


-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#689119

On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:56:26 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

> Why do Americans use the term Judeo-Christian so much, and why do
> American Christians have such a hard on for Israel?  You think they'd be
> a bit more sceptical of a people who SPECIFICALLY rejected Christ.

Because AIPAC runs the narrative? Probably tl;dr but it's a complex 
answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism

The US is rather unique in people drifting away from mainstream churches 
into various denominations? with questionable theology that tend to be 
somewhere on the dispensationalist spectrum, rather than just drifting 
away like many Europeans. 

The condensed version is the Jews have to gather in Israel and rebuild the 
temple before the anti-christ appears to usher in the tribulation befor 
the rapture or something like that. 

> Its like Linux supporters supporting Steve Ballmer...

Full disclosure: I was raised Catholic before Vatican II. Tomorrow (Good 
Friday) there was a special prayer for the conversion of the Christ-
killers before they burned in eternal hellfire.  I think the kindler, 
gentler Church has toned it down if not eliminating it entirely.

However the political aspects do play an important part and it's important 
to maintain proper thought at all times.

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#689200

Le 17-04-2025, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>
> The US is rather unique in people drifting away from mainstream churches 
> into various denominations? with questionable theology that tend to be 
> somewhere on the dispensationalist spectrum, rather than just drifting 
> away like many Europeans. 

American people shoot on tornadoes, believe the earth is flat and
believe that vaccines are designed to kill people. So, it's not only
about religion, it's about defying common sense: the more crap it is,
the more number of believers they attract.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#689208

On 2025-04-18, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
> Le 17-04-2025, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>>
>> The US is rather unique in people drifting away from mainstream churches 
>> into various denominations? with questionable theology that tend to be 
>> somewhere on the dispensationalist spectrum, rather than just drifting 
>> away like many Europeans. 
>
> American people shoot on tornadoes, believe the earth is flat and
> believe that vaccines are designed to kill people. So, it's not only
> about religion, it's about defying common sense: the more crap it is,
> the more number of believers they attract.

Right. A majority of Americans believe the earth is flat. Where did you dig 
up that nugget?

Vaccines may not have been designed to kill people, but mRNA "vaccines" DID 
kill people. And our "bought and paid for" government shields Big Pharma 
from any consequences when their vaccines DO kill people. 

Congratulations. You, again, show your total ignorance about America. Stick 
to what you know... or don't. I guess it's easier to put your brain in 
neutral and remain ignorant rather than trying to learn something.

Do you believe men can have babies? Just curious. Some claim that's 
consistent with "science" (so-called).

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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#689216

On 18 Apr 2025 20:50:27 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 17-04-2025, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> a écrit :
>>
>> The US is rather unique in people drifting away from mainstream
>> churches into various denominations? with questionable theology that
>> tend to be somewhere on the dispensationalist spectrum, rather than
>> just drifting away like many Europeans.
> 
> American people shoot on tornadoes, believe the earth is flat and
> believe that vaccines are designed to kill people. So, it's not only
> about religion, it's about defying common sense: the more crap it is,
> the more number of believers they attract.

How many 'French' people believe that Mohamed is the prophet of God? 

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