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  Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-04 09:06 +0000
    Re: Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-04 18:44 +0000
      Re: Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-04 15:37 -0400
        Re: Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-05 00:50 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-05 01:13 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-05 09:17 -0400

#688633 — Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada

Blah blah blah
Linux mintvirt 6.14.0-next-20250404 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr  3 21:14:41 PDT 
2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

real 413.61
user 19123.16
sys 3952.47

But I'm going to take it that nobody cares.

I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA
drivers to install correctly -- both the current drivers and
the open drivers from the git repository.  Gave up on it and went back
to 6.14.0.  (I'm too performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau
driver.)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "B.Gates : quality software :: R.McDonald : gourmet cuisine"

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#688637

On 4 Apr 2025 09:06:49 GMT, vallor wrote:

> I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA drivers to
> install correctly -- both the current drivers and the open drivers from
> the git repository.  Gave up on it and went back to 6.14.0.  (I'm too
> performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau driver.)

I'm running the Fedora 42 prerelease. It is also 6.14.0 with no problems. 
I did get a lot of plasma updates yesterday although I had not seen any 
problems.

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#688641

On 2025-04-04 2:44 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On 4 Apr 2025 09:06:49 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA drivers to
>> install correctly -- both the current drivers and the open drivers from
>> the git repository.  Gave up on it and went back to 6.14.0.  (I'm too
>> performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau driver.)
> 
> I'm running the Fedora 42 prerelease. It is also 6.14.0 with no problems.
> I did get a lot of plasma updates yesterday although I had not seen any
> problems.

Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the 
mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from 
Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver, 
but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one 
with an AMD GPU.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688651

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
> mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
> Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
> but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
> with an AMD GPU.

The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic on 
Linux but if you  want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good 
choice. 

Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people bitching 
that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

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#688653

On 5 Apr 2025 00:50:44 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<m5bd33Fu9b2U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
>> mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
>> Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
>> but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
>> with an AMD GPU.
> 
> The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic
> on Linux but if you  want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good
> choice.
> 
> Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people
> bitching that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

Linux distributions, such as Mint, support NVIDIA just fine.

I'm just going out on a limb running the bleeding edge development
kernel, which the NVIDIA drivers haven't caught up to yet.  The
latest _release_ kernel, 6.14, runs fine with the current NVIDIA drivers.

Not to mention that Linux Mint is not even running the latest
kernel release -- it is at 6.8.0-57 currently (for the lowlatency
kernel).  One uses the driver manager to select NVIDIA's drivers
for use with Linux.  (By default, it uses nouveau, which at this
point shouldn't be a problem except for high-performance applications
such as gaming in a space simulator.)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "There is no dark side of the moon. Really."

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#688668

On 2025-04-04 8:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
>> mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
>> Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
>> but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
>> with an AMD GPU.
> 
> The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic on
> Linux but if you  want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good
> choice.
> 
> Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people bitching
> that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

Those prices are part of why I was ready to move on to PC gaming in 2012 
anyway. It's always been a possibility to do so, but gaming on a 
computer was not always fun. Installing the game, then making sure that 
the CD was in the drive was a nuisance. Similarly, having to grab the 
manual and provide a word from page 56 to enter the game as a privacy 
measure just sucked. Once Valve created Steam and made everything so 
damned convenient, gaming on a console seemed needlessly cumbersome. 
That's why I sold my PS3 a year before the PS4 came out and decided that 
I would be better off just using a computer from that point on. The fact 
that you can get good games for $2 to $20 simply added to the fun.

The Switch 2, with its $80 prices for games, is going to have a tough 
time selling to people who can get a capable PC-based portable instead 
for a lower price. Whether the customer buys it from MSI, ASUS, Lenovo 
or a Steam Deck, they'll not only have access to a larger library of 
games at a lower price, but better battery life and graphics too. Of 
course, there aren't any Nintendo games, and we know all too well what 
the appeal of Mario, Link, Donkey Kong and Shigeru Miyamoto's general 
genius is.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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