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Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall

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First post2025-02-18 17:48 -0500
Last post2025-02-19 13:01 +0000
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  Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 17:48 -0500
    Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 20:01 -0500
      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall me <invalid@invalid.org> - 2025-02-18 20:48 -0500
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 21:03 -0500
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:21 -0500
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 10:20 -0500
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 11:35 -0500
                Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 11:51 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 12:03 -0500
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 17:45 +0000
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 16:04 -0500
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-24 05:34 +0000
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-24 08:57 -0500
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-24 10:02 -0500
                Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 01:31 +0000
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:20 -0500
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-20 21:17 +0100
      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 18:50 -0700
      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 04:30 -0500
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 05:20 -0500
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-19 12:20 +0000
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 07:26 -0500
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-19 12:30 +0000
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 09:24 -0500
    Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 02:03 +0000
      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 21:17 -0500
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 13:50 +0000
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 09:16 -0500
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 09:23 -0500
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-02-19 15:30 +0000
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 10:36 -0500
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-19 11:36 -0500
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-19 17:57 +0000
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 22:10 +1100
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-10 18:10 +0000
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-10 14:43 -0400
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-10 16:49 -0400
                Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-12 23:10 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 03:16 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-14 19:50 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-15 19:24 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-16 23:30 +0000
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-12 21:13 -0400
        Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) - 2025-02-19 19:08 +0000
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 14:26 -0500
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-19 20:00 +0000
            Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 15:01 -0500
              Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-20 21:30 +0000
          Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-20 07:24 -0500
      Re: Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-19 13:01 +0000

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#686225 — Microsoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 17:48 -0500
SubjectMicrosoft just put this controversial Notepad feature behind a paywall
Message-ID<0a3arjlk66bjk10skniovm3uku0d8ma0l2@4ax.com>
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall


You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
sanity.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#686226

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 20:01 -0500
Message-ID<47barjhsatgj7t6ng7b9uiqe1g84ifjpbh@4ax.com>
In reply to#686225
D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:

>>https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>sanity.
>
>hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>
>for text editing, these work superbly:
> libre office https://libreoffice.org
> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>  ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>
>i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>
> alt.comp.linux
> alt.comp.os.linux
> alt.os.linux
> alt.os.linux.debian
> alt.os.linux.mint
> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
> comp.os.linux.announce
> comp.os.linux.hardware
> comp.os.linux.portable
> linux.debian.announce
> linux.debian.user
> uk.comp.os.linux
>
>cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing


No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
ass attitude out the door.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#686228

Fromme <invalid@invalid.org>
Date2025-02-18 20:48 -0500
Message-ID<vp3d9q$1v226$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#686226
On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
> D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
> 
>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>> You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>> paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>> reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>> is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>> required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>> sanity.
>>
>> hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>>
>> for text editing, these work superbly:
>> libre office https://libreoffice.org
>> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>>   ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>
>> i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>> newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>>
>> alt.comp.linux
>> alt.comp.os.linux
>> alt.os.linux
>> alt.os.linux.debian
>> alt.os.linux.mint
>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>> comp.os.linux.announce
>> comp.os.linux.hardware
>> comp.os.linux.portable
>> linux.debian.announce
>> linux.debian.user
>> uk.comp.os.linux
>>
>> cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>> articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
> 
> 
> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
> ass attitude out the door.
> 
You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to 
denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was 
childish and conceited.

-- 
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
www.avg.com

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#686233

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 21:03 -0500
Message-ID<lsearjlt6f54h22908pp4v5gd7j6su98ln@4ax.com>
In reply to#686228
me <invalid@invalid.org> wrote:
>On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
>> D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>>> You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>>> paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>>> reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>>> is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>>> required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>>> sanity.
>>>
>>> hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>>>
>>> for text editing, these work superbly:
>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org
>>> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>>>   ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>
>>> i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>>> newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>>>
>>> alt.comp.linux
>>> alt.comp.os.linux
>>> alt.os.linux
>>> alt.os.linux.debian
>>> alt.os.linux.mint
>>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>>> comp.os.linux.announce
>>> comp.os.linux.hardware
>>> comp.os.linux.portable
>>> linux.debian.announce
>>> linux.debian.user
>>> uk.comp.os.linux
>>>
>>> cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>>> articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
>> 
>> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
>> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
>> ass attitude out the door.
>> 
>You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to 
>denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was 
>childish and conceited.


Not really, no.  Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#686258

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-19 09:21 -0500
Message-ID<TNltP.643215$be92.462336@fx16.iad>
In reply to#686233
On 2025-02-18 9:03 p.m., Joel wrote:
> me <invalid@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>>>> You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>>>> paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>>>> reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>>>> is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>>>> required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>>>> sanity.
>>>>
>>>> hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>>>>
>>>> for text editing, these work superbly:
>>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org
>>>> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>>>>    ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>>
>>>> i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>>>> newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>>>>
>>>> alt.comp.linux
>>>> alt.comp.os.linux
>>>> alt.os.linux
>>>> alt.os.linux.debian
>>>> alt.os.linux.mint
>>>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>>>> comp.os.linux.announce
>>>> comp.os.linux.hardware
>>>> comp.os.linux.portable
>>>> linux.debian.announce
>>>> linux.debian.user
>>>> uk.comp.os.linux
>>>>
>>>> cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>>>> articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
>>>
>>> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
>>> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
>>> ass attitude out the door.
>>>
>> You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to
>> denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was
>> childish and conceited.
> 
> 
> Not really, no.  Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
> realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
> demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.

Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even 
shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse 
to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they 
aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686261

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-19 10:20 -0500
Message-ID<3jtbrj12uh97kr1i05pa02dfi1finlta44@4ax.com>
In reply to#686258
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>> Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
>> realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
>> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
>> demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.
>
>Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even 
>shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse 
>to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they 
>aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.


My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#686265

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-19 11:35 -0500
Message-ID<CLntP.170534$rHoc.46513@fx17.iad>
In reply to#686261
On 2025-02-19 10:20 a.m., Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>>> Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
>>> realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
>>> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
>>> demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.
>>
>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
>> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
>> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
>> aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
> 
> 
> My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
> computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.

It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686269

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-19 11:51 -0500
Message-ID<1v2crjl94n8fcsbc9uj47gda6l7rnut32d@4ax.com>
In reply to#686265
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>>>> Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
>>>> realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
>>>> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
>>>> demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.
>>>
>>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
>>> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
>>> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
>>> aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
>> 
>> My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
>> computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.
>
>It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.


Well, when it comes to suspending/hibernating the system, Linux
doesn't have the magic of Windows, admittedly, but I don't really need
it, I can just lock the screen and let the computer run idly, or turn
it all the way off.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#686270

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-19 12:03 -0500
Message-ID<Q9otP.41886$VSxc.9850@fx35.iad>
In reply to#686269
On 2025-02-19 11:51 a.m., Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Winblows 11 really does demand too much hardware, in
>>>>> realistic terms.  M$ just throws every ounce of everything into their
>>>>> platform, to where you can't even keep pace with the increasing
>>>>> demands, it's farcical.  Linux is what people should be using.
>>>>
>>>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
>>>> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
>>>> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
>>>> aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
>>>
>>> My video is NVIDIA, but I just lock the screen or fully shut down the
>>> computer, so your problem doesn't bother me, but I hear you.
>>
>> It sounds to me like you're faced some of the garbage yourself.
> 
> 
> Well, when it comes to suspending/hibernating the system, Linux
> doesn't have the magic of Windows, admittedly, but I don't really need
> it, I can just lock the screen and let the computer run idly, or turn
> it all the way off.

Admittedly, I don't need it either if I use the laptop at home. I also 
don't need it if I have my own classroom and don't need to share it with 
others, something that is the case this year (and going forward). Still, 
it's always bothersome when something which works _perfectly_ in one 
operating system is so stubbornly defective in another. It works quite 
well in Fedora though, but Fedora tends to break the NVIDIA drivers 
repeatedly, requiring a reinstall all the time.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686274

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-02-19 17:45 +0000
Message-ID<m1mjlcFbbssU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686258
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
> aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.

Meanwhile you whine about Windows corrupting your system.  

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#686281

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-19 16:04 -0500
Message-ID<dHrtP.433132$EG%6.356663@fx09.iad>
In reply to#686274
On 2025-02-19 12:45 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work and in many cases, even
>> shutting down the computer takes forever because nvidia instances refuse
>> to stop. Not everyone has the patience to suffer through it. If they
>> aren't using nvidia, Linux is pretty good. Otherwise, it's a nightmare.
> 
> Meanwhile you whine about Windows corrupting your system.

At the moment, I'd rather whine that it is corrupting itself yet 
properly shutting down, waking from sleep and playing all my games and 
movies instead than be annoyed that closing the lid will lead the 
machine into oblivion.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686511

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-02-24 05:34 +0000
Message-ID<vph0cp$u3io$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#686258
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...

I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64-
bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.

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#686522

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-24 08:57 -0500
Message-ID<FV_uP.481200$eFh9.209191@fx40.iad>
In reply to#686511
On 2025-02-24 12:34 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
> 
> I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64-
> bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.

I recall that Macbooks made around 2009-2014 ran particularly well with 
Linux installed. I had a nerdy student back then with a Mac and he 
showed me that the OS supported his device perfectly, with no 
compromises. However, newer Intel-based devices seem to have trouble 
with suspend and the audio. I guess I'll find out for myself when my 
2017 MacBook Air arrives later today.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686523

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-24 10:02 -0500
Message-ID<3S%uP.1433049$ahU8.719947@fx11.iad>
In reply to#686511
On 2025-02-24 12:34 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
> 
> I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64-
> bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.

That's nice, but the fact remains that there is a problem. I even looked 
at YouTube videos of people gleefully installing Linux on their outdated 
MacBooks and they show that not only will it not suspend or wake from 
suspend, but in some cases it simply shuts down the computer if you 
close the lid. Denying that there is a problem will not help anything.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686569

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-02-25 01:31 +0000
Message-ID<vpj6gn$1hefu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#686523
On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:02:18 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 2025-02-24 12:34 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:21:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Linux can barely get wake from suspend to work ...
>> 
>> I’ve used Linux on a number of laptops, both old and new, 32-bit and 64-
>> bit. Never had such a problem on any of them.
> 
> Denying that there is a problem will not help anything.

Your implication was that the problem was somehow universal. It is not.

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#686257

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-02-19 09:20 -0500
Message-ID<sMltP.642783$be92.206415@fx16.iad>
In reply to#686228
On 2025-02-18 8:48 p.m., me wrote:
> On 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:
>> D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put- 
>>>> this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>>> You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>>> paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>>> reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>>> is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>>> required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>>> sanity.
>>>
>>> hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>>>
>>> for text editing, these work superbly:
>>> libre office https://libreoffice.org
>>> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>>>   ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>>
>>> i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>>> newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>>>
>>> alt.comp.linux
>>> alt.comp.os.linux
>>> alt.os.linux
>>> alt.os.linux.debian
>>> alt.os.linux.mint
>>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>>> comp.os.linux.announce
>>> comp.os.linux.hardware
>>> comp.os.linux.portable
>>> linux.debian.announce
>>> linux.debian.user
>>> uk.comp.os.linux
>>>
>>> cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>>> articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
>>
>>
>> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
>> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
>> ass attitude out the door.
>>
> You did not do the right thing. I use linux myself. There is no need to 
> denigrate those who use other operating systems. Your response was 
> childish and conceited.

Can't we al just get along?!

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#686308

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2025-02-20 21:17 +0100
Message-ID<m1pgv2FoofiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#686228
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 20:48:43 -0500, me wrote:

> -- 
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
> www.av....

Turn this off please.

-- 
s|b

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#686230

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-18 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<O_ScnW03y_BlpSj6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#686226
Joel wrote:
> D <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
> 
>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/microsoft-just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-a-paywall
>>> You have to be kidding me.  This is what dumbasses running Win11 are
>>> paying good money to obtain?  And Linux is *free*?  How is that
>>> reality, where the free product is the only one worth using?  What era
>>> is this, FFS?  Fuck M$ and Apple too, their hardware is overpriced but
>>> required to use their OS.  Linux is the only option, for someone with
>>> sanity.
>>
>> hmm... never heard of ai "rewrite":
>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ai+rewrite
>>
>> for text editing, these work superbly:
>> libre office https://libreoffice.org
>> notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
>>   ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad
>>
>> i'm not a linux user, but there are plenty of active linux
>> newsgroups that might be more helpful to linux users, e.g.
>>
>> alt.comp.linux
>> alt.comp.os.linux
>> alt.os.linux
>> alt.os.linux.debian
>> alt.os.linux.mint
>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>> comp.os.linux.announce
>> comp.os.linux.hardware
>> comp.os.linux.portable
>> linux.debian.announce
>> linux.debian.user
>> uk.comp.os.linux
>>
>> cross-posting is poor netiquette; it's always best to post
>> articles to only one newsgroup at a time and avoid cursing
> 
> 
> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
> ass attitude out the door.
> 
are you going to jail ass whip him

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#686243

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2025-02-19 04:30 -0500
Message-ID<vp48au$27447$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#686226
On Tue, 2/18/2025 8:01 PM, Joel wrote:

> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
> ass attitude out the door.
> 

There's no particular advocacy in this group.

Neither do we come over and sell copies of Windows in COLA.

The feature in question is opt-in. You have to click something
to trigger it.

And if you really really really are such a dumb fuck as to
need this feature... it's available for FREE in the regular
CoPilot.

*******

<Copilot session>

Can you rewrite the following text for me ?

Writing is often the most dreaded task when tackling a big project in Excel.
Whether summarizing data or presenting findings, it's hard to know where to
start or how to make your writing sound good. Luckily, if you use AI to
rewrite text, you can eliminate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll
go over the rewriting capabilities of AI and show you how it can help you
write better and faster when working with Excel. You’ll also see how you
can start with a pencil to rewrite text immediately with numerous prompts
and examples.

Certainly! Here's a revised version of the text:

Tackling a large project in Excel often makes writing feel like a daunting task.
Whether it's summarizing data or presenting findings, it's tough to know where
to begin or how to make your writing shine. Thankfully, using AI to rewrite text
can alleviate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll explore the rewriting
capabilities of AI and demonstrate how it can help you write more effectively
and efficiently when working with Excel. You’ll also discover how to quickly
rewrite text with a pencil using numerous prompts and examples.

<CoPilot> What do you think of this version?    (Thumbs up)

It can take advertising mush and make advertising mush from it. Amazing!
It even comes with a Ginsu knife.

What a time to be alive.

   Paul

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#686245

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-02-19 05:20 -0500
Message-ID<k2cbrjl9kip1qa26ug3r7646totum2484b@4ax.com>
In reply to#686243
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

>> No, I did the correct thing, this article and my commentary was
>> relevant to Windows 11 and to Linux advocacy, you can take your wise-
>> ass attitude out the door.
>
>There's no particular advocacy in this group.
>
>Neither do we come over and sell copies of Windows in COLA.
>
>The feature in question is opt-in. You have to click something
>to trigger it.
>
>And if you really really really are such a dumb fuck as to
>need this feature... it's available for FREE in the regular
>CoPilot.
>
>*******
>
><Copilot session>
>
>Can you rewrite the following text for me ?
>
>Writing is often the most dreaded task when tackling a big project in Excel.
>Whether summarizing data or presenting findings, it's hard to know where to
>start or how to make your writing sound good. Luckily, if you use AI to
>rewrite text, you can eliminate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll
>go over the rewriting capabilities of AI and show you how it can help you
>write better and faster when working with Excel. You’ll also see how you
>can start with a pencil to rewrite text immediately with numerous prompts
>and examples.
>
>Certainly! Here's a revised version of the text:
>
>Tackling a large project in Excel often makes writing feel like a daunting task.
>Whether it's summarizing data or presenting findings, it's tough to know where
>to begin or how to make your writing shine. Thankfully, using AI to rewrite text
>can alleviate much of this stress. In this guide, we'll explore the rewriting
>capabilities of AI and demonstrate how it can help you write more effectively
>and efficiently when working with Excel. You’ll also discover how to quickly
>rewrite text with a pencil using numerous prompts and examples.
>
><CoPilot> What do you think of this version?    (Thumbs up)
>
>It can take advertising mush and make advertising mush from it. Amazing!
>It even comes with a Ginsu knife.
>
>What a time to be alive.


I have Copilot as a Web app, under Linux, I like M$'s spin on AI chat,
but the way Win11 integrates it is abominable.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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