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| First post | 2025-02-08 08:49 +0000 |
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Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 08:49 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 08:01 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-08 09:11 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 15:40 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-08 11:05 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 17:07 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-09 08:22 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-09 20:03 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 07:54 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-10 10:27 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 06:23 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-11 08:51 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-11 20:49 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-11 19:47 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 03:09 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:02 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:12 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 19:03 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 06:44 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-13 07:27 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-13 08:43 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-14 07:44 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-14 09:04 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-14 00:52 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-14 09:00 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-14 22:21 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-14 18:53 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-15 06:53 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-15 05:41 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-16 00:10 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 06:27 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 06:47 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-12 00:33 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 19:43 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-11 19:50 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-12 02:54 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 06:38 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-11 20:39 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-12 04:33 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-15 11:27 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-15 21:08 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-15 22:03 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 00:46 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:07 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 09:01 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 03:53 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 09:04 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-15 19:32 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:10 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 09:06 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-15 21:26 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-15 22:36 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-16 00:09 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 08:49 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 00:36 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-16 01:36 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 03:46 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-16 02:09 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 21:13 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 04:01 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 23:39 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-16 08:40 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-17 05:29 +0000
(more on) Pan (was: Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-17 11:34 +0000
Re: (more on) Pan (was: Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-17 19:03 +0000
Re: (more on) Pan snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-02-17 19:33 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-17 07:13 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-17 21:47 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:18 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 23:48 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 05:32 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 00:39 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 08:14 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 04:10 -0500
Agent isn't open source. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 12:39 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 05:47 -0700
Re: Agent isn't open source. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 13:11 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:18 -0700
Re: Agent isn't open source. Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-17 06:17 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 13:20 +0000
Linux and Pan are open source (was: Re: Agent isn't open source.) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 14:56 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 07:48 -0500
Re: Agent isn't open source. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-16 07:56 -0500
Re: Agent isn't open source. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-02-16 13:13 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 13:22 +0000
Re: Agent isn't open source. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:33 -0700
[OT] Ice cream (was: Re: Agent isn't open source.) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-02-16 13:37 +0000
Re: [OT] Ice cream % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:38 -0700
Re: [OT] Ice cream (was: Re: Agent isn't open source.) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 14:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Ice cream snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-02-16 14:37 +0000
Re: [OT] Ice cream (was: Re: Agent isn't open source.) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:32 -0600
Re: [OT] Ice cream (was: Re: Agent isn't open source.) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-17 05:20 +0000
Re: [OT] Ice cream Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 11:47 -0600
Re: Agent isn't open source. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-16 07:53 -0600
Re: Agent isn't open source. Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 15:14 -0600
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-16 07:50 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 13:17 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:20 -0700
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-16 13:27 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:32 -0700
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-16 13:42 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-16 13:28 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 19:52 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-16 08:44 -0500
Pan (was: Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 03:56 +0000
Re: Pan (was: Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-16 04:39 +0000
Re: Pan (was: Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:59 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-12 06:24 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 09:04 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-12 19:16 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-12 19:07 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-13 06:41 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-13 08:42 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 21:23 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-14 07:43 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-14 09:03 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-14 21:09 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-14 18:51 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-15 00:38 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 14:18 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-15 12:39 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-15 21:18 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-15 19:36 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-16 04:12 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 08:51 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 08:50 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-16 08:46 -0500
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-14 20:45 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-14 21:43 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-16 04:19 +0000
Re: Hobbyware WinCrap 11 strikes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-10 18:30 +0000
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-02-15 12:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hj4sP.49288$yI2a.23925@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #685920 |
On 2025-02-15 9:18 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2025-02-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-14 2:43 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-13 1:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 1:24 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 1:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-10 2:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-09, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-08 12:07 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-08, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-08 10:40 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-08, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-08 3:49 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess checking the battery capacity is the last thing my Latitude 5300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ever do on Windows 11. When I exited it did a small update. When I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted after the update it wanted to do a disk check (and I stupidly let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it do so). After doing that and rebooting it ran into a BSOD ("we ran into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem"). It then wants to run diagnostics, attempts a repair and... we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start the whole loop all over again. (I tried this about six times and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally told myself, "well, enough of that bullshit.")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adios WinCrap 11. the space can better be used by Linux Mint anyhow (which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still boots fine). Another computer that will be completely freed from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be lying if I said that it never happened to me before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was beginning to think Windows 11 was fairly solid. This surprised me. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't why, but I had a bad feeling when I let it do a "disk check." I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more worried that Windows would trash my Linux grub setup for booting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though, I didn't think it would trash itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went ahead and deleted the Windows partitions with GParted and installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian 12 in its place. I'm experimenting with creating .deb packages for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trelby (which I found isn't that hard to do) so it'll be nice to have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian install for testing purposes. (Linux Mint is more like Ubuntu and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian and LM are actually different enough that I have to test both.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of Ubuntu, I've come to despise it and it's damn Snaps. I found out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Snap version of Firefox refuses to read .html files if they're not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the home (and/or, I suppose, the Snap) directory. The documentation for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trelby can't be read by it (installed in its normal directory). When I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uninstall the Snap version of Firefox, it won't allow me to install the .deb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. They're definitely turning into control freaks at Ubuntu (kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Windows and Mac OS).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of Flatpak or Snap anymore and see them both as something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use if you don't have a choice. I like the theory behind both, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they often ignore your theme, take longer to load or have trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrating with the rest of the system. If I absolutely had to go for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one or the other though, I would choose Flatpak even though Snap is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theoretically superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't like Snaps at all. I do tolerate FlatPaks (and use a few of them)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if I knew how to make AppImages that's what I would prefer for Trelby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's not Snaps I really dislike, it's Ubuntu forcing them on you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's other things I don't like about Ubuntu. It would definitely not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my top 20 list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that during the short period of time during which I used
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu recently, I was surprised that just about everything I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> running was a Snap. For security reasons, it made sense (the browser,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-mail client), but certain other things would have run just as well
>>>>>>>>>>>> if they were simple .deb files. They want to make Snap a standard, that
>>>>>>>>>>>> much is clear, and they're taking advantage of the distribution's
>>>>>>>>>>>> popularity to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're right. I think they're completely sold on the "container"
>>>>>>>>>>> idea — everything in its own "silo" (or whatever they call it, "sandbox"
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe). To me that means you lose the advatage of Linux, where small
>>>>>>>>>>> applications are combined to create bigger applications, in one nice "flow."
>>>>>>>>>>> This may be a good idea for servers, but I don't think there are other ways
>>>>>>>>>>> to secure (harden) servers. I don't like it on a personal computer at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think they call these "container" distributions. Fedora has one, CoreOS,
>>>>>>>>>>> but they keep it separate from their standard install. That's what I wish
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu would do as, apparently, they have something called Ubuntu Core. Save
>>>>>>>>>>> the damn Snaps for that. I guess the big one (so far) is Alpine. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> know if these use special containers, or Snaps or Flatpaks, or what.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have no doubt that taking an all .deb or all .rpm approach might
>>>>>>>>>> result in some things breaking along the way. However, there is no doubt
>>>>>>>>>> that it's quite secure and much faster than the container approach. When
>>>>>>>>>> all the software you're getting is coming out of a repository which has
>>>>>>>>>> been checked thoroughly by professionals, and not anywhere on the web,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what the need for contained software is. Granted, Flatpak
>>>>>>>>>> and Snap make software which _isn't_ available to a repository available
>>>>>>>>>> to your choice of a distribution, and that is definitely an advantage.
>>>>>>>>>> Security, however, should not be the main reason for using Snap or Flatpak.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally I like (well made) AppImages better than either Flatpaks or
>>>>>>>>> Snaps, but I do use about five Flatpaks. I quit using Snaps when I
>>>>>>>>> discovered they showed up like drive partitions when I did a _df_ to check
>>>>>>>>> my drive space. I didn't like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure why they bothered making Flatpaks and Snaps when AppImages
>>>>>>>> work pretty much everywhere. I mean, how can you beat something which
>>>>>>>> requires nothing more than for you to make it executable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed. But some people make AppImages that don't include all the
>>>>>>> dependencies, so they can be "mis-made."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering AppImage exists since 2004, it's a wonder that Red Hat and
>>>>>> Canonical felt the need to create their own. It might have been easier
>>>>>> to just improve it and make sure that it integrates properly with the
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Canonical wanted to control an Apple style "app store." I didn't
>>>>> realize that Red Hat was a big supporter for flatpak. But I do know I like
>>>>> flatpaks better than snaps. As far as not using AppImage... I have no idea
>>>>> why they (at least Red Hat) didn't go that direction.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I read that Snaps were superior to Flatpaks. The problem is
>>>> that Canonical has ultimate control over their storage and distribution.
>>>> I don't mind that Canonical was trying an Apple-style approach since
>>>> Shuttleworth made a significant investment in Linux and wants to get
>>>> that money back, but I do think that Flatpak is a smart alternative to
>>>> ensure that Canonical doesn't control the operating system as much as it
>>>> does Ubuntu itself. What Canonical does with Ubuntu is their own
>>>> business and people are free to use it or ignore it.
>>>
>>> In my opinion Snaps are not superior to Flatpaks. Snaps are invasive,
>>> Flatpaks are easily removed. As I mentioned in another post, Trelby
>>> (screenwriting software) includes an HTML manual. It's normal location is
>>> /usr/trelby/trelby (up until a recent release, it's now under
>>> usr/lib/python3.xx/dist-pkgs... — something like that). But the Snap version
>>> of Firefox can't read anything in the /usr subdirectoryy (actually I don't
>>> think it can read *any* file in the root directory). So Snap forces you to
>>> try to work around it's non-standard BS, making a .deb installation package
>>> fail that works with any other Firefox installation. (This is just one
>>> example.)
>>>
>>> I won't Snaps, even if there's an application that only is available as a
>>> Snap. That's how much I don't like them.
>>
>> I honestly feel that most people think the way that you do as it relates
>> to Snaps. That might be why Ubuntu's popularity is steadily decreasing
>> with time.
>
> Ubuntu wants to control how their users interact with their OS. Kind of like
> Microsoft and Apple. Maybe there is some reason for this, but I know that,
> over the years, I've moved from being enthusiastic about Ubuntu to not
> wanting to use it at all (at least not on the Desktop). I've currently got a
> Ubuntu server running as a test bed for my wife and her teaching software
> (Moodle).
I like where OpenMandriva is going, but I have to admit that it is not
as polished as I would want my operating system to be. I can't complain
about the developers' politics since they are very much like my own.
Apple is providing what I find most appealing, but I am wholly against
the idea that I can't upgrade anything or even use hardware encryption,
in addition to the fact that the company is as woke as they come. As a
result, Windows ends up being the best compromise, despite all its
faults and the wokeness of the company. I sure miss the 90s when I was
completely ignorant of politics and "social injustice."
On another topic, the local media is complaining that JD Vance's speech
to the European leaders was "troubling." Of course, these cunts are
banking on the fact that most of their viewers and readers won't
actually hear or read Vance's speech. Literally _none_ of what he said
should be abhorrent to a freedom-minded individual.
--
CrudeSausage/
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Telegram: @CrudeSausage
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-15 21:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1celnFoog9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685934 |
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:39:24 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > I sure miss the 90s when I was completely ignorant of politics and > "social injustice." Must have been nice. I got a big dose of 'social justice' in the '60s. > On another topic, the local media is complaining that JD Vance's speech > to the European leaders was "troubling." Of course, these cunts are > banking on the fact that most of their viewers and readers won't > actually hear or read Vance's speech. Literally _none_ of what he said > should be abhorrent to a freedom-minded individual. Vance outdid himself by skipping Scholz and meeting with Alice Weidel. The European elites have been trying to pretend anything further right than a Soros backed organization doesn't exist. I hope their wake up call is good and hard.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-02-15 19:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <%pasP.230431$if26.93316@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #685945 |
On 2025-02-15 4:18 p.m., rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:39:24 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I sure miss the 90s when I was completely ignorant of politics and >> "social injustice." > > Must have been nice. I got a big dose of 'social justice' in the '60s. I'm glad that I wasn't a 20-year-old back then. I might have ended up pretending to be hippy to get access to all the easy women. >> On another topic, the local media is complaining that JD Vance's speech >> to the European leaders was "troubling." Of course, these cunts are >> banking on the fact that most of their viewers and readers won't >> actually hear or read Vance's speech. Literally _none_ of what he said >> should be abhorrent to a freedom-minded individual. > > Vance outdid himself by skipping Scholz and meeting with Alice Weidel. The > European elites have been trying to pretend anything further right than a > Soros backed organization doesn't exist. I hope their wake up call is good > and hard. I doubt it will do anything but embolden the elites. However, I hope that the _people_ ignore their media's take on Vance, go to the source, listen to what he really said and get inspired. The media here say they are "troubled" by what Vance said, but I believe that they are merely troubled by the fact that the people are waking up to their bullshit. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage/ Gab: @CrudeSausage Telegram: @CrudeSausage
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-16 04:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1d6tvFs8jmU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685977 |
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:36:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > I'm glad that I wasn't a 20-year-old back then. I might have ended up > pretending to be hippy to get access to all the easy women. If you were in the US you might have gotten a free, all-expenses-paid trip to exotic climes. > I doubt it will do anything but embolden the elites. Light poles and rope.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-16 08:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vos8u3$gu80$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #686010 |
On 2025-02-16, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:36:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > > >> I'm glad that I wasn't a 20-year-old back then. I might have ended up >> pretending to be hippy to get access to all the easy women. > > If you were in the US you might have gotten a free, all-expenses-paid trip > to exotic climes. > >> I doubt it will do anything but embolden the elites. > > Light poles and rope. Yep. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-16 08:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vos8s6$gu80$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685945 |
On 2025-02-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:39:24 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I sure miss the 90s when I was completely ignorant of politics and >> "social injustice." > > Must have been nice. I got a big dose of 'social justice' in the '60s. > >> On another topic, the local media is complaining that JD Vance's speech >> to the European leaders was "troubling." Of course, these cunts are >> banking on the fact that most of their viewers and readers won't >> actually hear or read Vance's speech. Literally _none_ of what he said >> should be abhorrent to a freedom-minded individual. > > Vance outdid himself by skipping Scholz and meeting with Alice Weidel. The > European elites have been trying to pretend anything further right than a > Soros backed organization doesn't exist. I hope their wake up call is good > and hard. The EU is complaining about Vance's "election interference" when they send delegates to Ukraine and Georgia to overturn the results of elections (in Ukraine successfully), or in Romania where they forced the government to nullify an election because the wrong man won. These people are nothing but hypocritical drones doing the bidding of the Rothschild cabal — what's vaguely called the "Deep State." -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-02-16 08:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <f%lsP.130966$EG%6.16522@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #686023 |
On 2025-02-16 3:50 a.m., RonB wrote: > On 2025-02-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:39:24 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> I sure miss the 90s when I was completely ignorant of politics and >>> "social injustice." >> >> Must have been nice. I got a big dose of 'social justice' in the '60s. >> >>> On another topic, the local media is complaining that JD Vance's speech >>> to the European leaders was "troubling." Of course, these cunts are >>> banking on the fact that most of their viewers and readers won't >>> actually hear or read Vance's speech. Literally _none_ of what he said >>> should be abhorrent to a freedom-minded individual. >> >> Vance outdid himself by skipping Scholz and meeting with Alice Weidel. The >> European elites have been trying to pretend anything further right than a >> Soros backed organization doesn't exist. I hope their wake up call is good >> and hard. > > The EU is complaining about Vance's "election interference" when they send > delegates to Ukraine and Georgia to overturn the results of elections (in > Ukraine successfully), or in Romania where they forced the government to > nullify an election because the wrong man won. These people are nothing but > hypocritical drones doing the bidding of the Rothschild cabal — what's > vaguely called the "Deep State." I don't think that this is the only election that they've annulled either. I can't imagine being Romanian and learning that my vote is meaningless. How the people didn't rise up and rip the heads off of police officer and then every official is beyond me. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage/ Gab: @CrudeSausage Telegram: @CrudeSausage
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 20:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m19oatFb494U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685840 |
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:43:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > But the Snap version > of Firefox can't read anything in the /usr subdirectoryy (actually I > don't think it can read *any* file in the root directory). So Snap > forces you to try to work around it's non-standard BS, making a .deb > installation package fail that works with any other Firefox > installation. (This is just one example.) I can access files in the /usr directory but it's a little odd. For example with <Ctrl>O I can navigate to /usr/share/arduino/examples/01.Basics/Blink/Blink.ino After I select the file it opens and the URL bar becomes file:///run/user/1000/doc/e6a3bfe2/Blink.ino I can also cat /run/user/1000/doc/e6a3bfe2/Blink.ino to see the contents of the usual Arduino 'hello world' example. There is also /run/user/1000/doc/by-app/ which appears to have running apps. For example, thonny wasn't in the list until I started it and then snap.thonny appeared. The entry doesn't go away when I exit thonny, nor does Blink.io when I close the Firefox tab. /run is relatively new. I've never poked around so I don't know if unused data expires at some time.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 21:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m19ro4Fbqd1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685882 |
On 14 Feb 2025 20:45:17 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <m19oatFb494U2@mid.individual.net>: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:43:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> But the Snap version >> of Firefox can't read anything in the /usr subdirectoryy (actually I >> don't think it can read *any* file in the root directory). So Snap >> forces you to try to work around it's non-standard BS, making a .deb >> installation package fail that works with any other Firefox >> installation. (This is just one example.) > > I can access files in the /usr directory but it's a little odd. For > example with <Ctrl>O I can navigate to > > /usr/share/arduino/examples/01.Basics/Blink/Blink.ino > > After I select the file it opens and the URL bar becomes > > file:///run/user/1000/doc/e6a3bfe2/Blink.ino > > I can also > > cat /run/user/1000/doc/e6a3bfe2/Blink.ino > > to see the contents of the usual Arduino 'hello world' example. > > There is also /run/user/1000/doc/by-app/ which appears to have running > apps. For example, thonny wasn't in the list until I started it and then > snap.thonny appeared. > > The entry doesn't go away when I exit thonny, nor does Blink.io when I > close the Firefox tab. > > /run is relatively new. I've never poked around so I don't know if unused > data expires at some time. /run is actually a tmpfs mount, so it goes away on reboot. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-15 00:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1a5drFdifrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685886 |
On 14 Feb 2025 21:43:32 GMT, vallor wrote: > /run is actually a tmpfs mount, so it goes away on reboot. Understood, but until reboot does it keep caching data? The Ubuntu box has been rebooted recently as I tried to solve a sound problem but the Fedora box has been up for 39 days. That's hardly a record. Often the machines are up until a power outage exceeds the UPS capacity.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-16 04:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1d7agFqf8iU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #685895 |
On 15 Feb 2025 00:28:44 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <m1a5drFdifrU1@mid.individual.net>: > On 14 Feb 2025 21:43:32 GMT, vallor wrote: > >> /run is actually a tmpfs mount, so it goes away on reboot. > > Understood, but until reboot does it keep caching data? The Ubuntu box has > been rebooted recently as I tried to solve a sound problem but the Fedora > box has been up for 39 days. That's hardly a record. Often the machines > are up until a power outage exceeds the UPS capacity. That depends on whether or not the specific applications police after themselves. A lot of things go in /run on modern desktops, such as mtp mounts from your phone. That's also where the utmp lives, as well as various pid files. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "1st Law of Thermodynamics: Go to class!!"
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 18:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvqkgrg.1kbkc.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #685356 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 16:05 this Saturday (GMT):
> On 2025-02-08 10:40 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-02-08, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-08 3:49 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> I guess checking the battery capacity is the last thing my Latitude 5300
>>>> will ever do on Windows 11. When I exited it did a small update. When I
>>>> rebooted after the update it wanted to do a disk check (and I stupidly let
>>>> it do so). After doing that and rebooting it ran into a BSOD ("we ran into a
>>>> problem"). It then wants to run diagnostics, attempts a repair and... we
>>>> start the whole loop all over again. (I tried this about six times and
>>>> finally told myself, "well, enough of that bullshit.")
>>>>
>>>> Adios WinCrap 11. the space can better be used by Linux Mint anyhow (which
>>>> still boots fine). Another computer that will be completely freed from
>>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> I would be lying if I said that it never happened to me before.
>>
>> I was beginning to think Windows 11 was fairly solid. This surprised me. I
>> don't why, but I had a bad feeling when I let it do a "disk check." I was
>> more worried that Windows would trash my Linux grub setup for booting,
>> though, I didn't think it would trash itself.
>>
>> I went ahead and deleted the Windows partitions with GParted and installed
>> Debian 12 in its place. I'm experimenting with creating .deb packages for
>> Trelby (which I found isn't that hard to do) so it'll be nice to have a
>> Debian install for testing purposes. (Linux Mint is more like Ubuntu and
>> Debian and LM are actually different enough that I have to test both.)
>>
>> Speaking of Ubuntu, I've come to despise it and it's damn Snaps. I found out
>> that the Snap version of Firefox refuses to read .html files if they're not
>> in the home (and/or, I suppose, the Snap) directory. The documentation for
>> Trelby can't be read by it (installed in its normal directory). When I
>> uninstall the Snap version of Firefox, it won't allow me to install the .deb
>> version. They're definitely turning into control freaks at Ubuntu (kind of
>> like Windows and Mac OS).
>
> I'm not a fan of Flatpak or Snap anymore and see them both as something
> to use if you don't have a choice. I like the theory behind both, but
> they often ignore your theme, take longer to load or have trouble
> integrating with the rest of the system. If I absolutely had to go for
> one or the other though, I would choose Flatpak even though Snap is
> theoretically superior.
Yeah, the only Flatpak I think I have installed is Bottles.. AppImages I
have a lot of.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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