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Fun With Dates -- Need Help

Started byFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
First post2025-01-17 20:54 +0000
Last post2025-01-18 14:39 -0600
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  Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 20:54 +0000
    Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-18 12:24 +0000
      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 14:00 +0000
        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-18 15:12 +0000
          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 15:14 -0600
            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-18 22:21 +0000
              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:18 -0600
        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-18 15:26 +0000
          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 22:53 +0000
            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-19 15:35 +0000
            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-19 15:58 +0000
              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-24 19:40 +0000
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-24 15:36 -0500
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-24 22:27 +0000
                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-24 22:55 +0000
                    Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-24 23:35 +0000
                      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-25 10:43 +0000
                        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-25 11:24 +0000
                          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-25 14:06 +0000
                            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-25 14:49 +0000
                              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-07 19:00 +0000
                          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 14:33 -0600
                            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-26 11:21 +0000
                            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-26 06:54 -0500
                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-24 18:23 -0500
                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 01:00 +0000
            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-19 17:36 +0000
              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 14:03 -0600
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-20 21:05 +0000
              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-24 20:16 +0000
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-24 16:07 -0500
                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-24 22:19 +0000
                    Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-24 17:54 -0500
                      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 01:09 +0000
                      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-25 10:23 +0000
                        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-25 06:08 -0500
                          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-25 16:51 +0000
                        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-25 09:07 -0500
                          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-25 09:16 -0500
                            Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-25 09:47 -0500
                              Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-25 10:28 -0500
                                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-26 11:01 -0500
                                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-27 08:34 -0500
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-24 22:37 +0000
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 01:04 +0000
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-25 02:14 +0000
                  Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-25 11:05 +0000
                    Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-28 22:30 -0500
                      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-02-01 10:19 +0000
                Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-25 11:06 +0000
        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-18 15:40 +0000
          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 23:12 +0000
        Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-18 16:45 +0000
          Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 15:28 -0600
      Re: Fun With Dates -- Need Help Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:39 -0600

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#684574

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-25 09:47 -0500
Message-ID<vn2tii$2r85j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684572
On 1/25/2025 9:16 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 1/25/25 9:07 AM, DFS wrote:


>> Slimer/Crude Sausage is very fluent in French and English (and 
>> Polish), so he can help you too (when he's not too busy writing fanboy 
>> letters to Trump and Putin and Assad).
> 
> It's still better than masturbating to images of Kamala Harris and 
> Hillary Clinton the way that you do.


The deranged lowlife Trump pardoned hundreds of violent Jan 6 losers. 
Unbelievable.  Even some of those pardoned think the pardons are a joke:

Jason Riddle pleaded guilty to theft of government property and 
illegally protesting inside the Capitol. He was sentenced in April 2022 
to 90 days in prison.

He was struggling with alcohol in Jan 2021, and "obsessed" with Trump. 
Now he says: "I don't need to obsess over a narcissistic bully to feel 
better about myself.  Trump can shove his pardon up his a--."



But the crackdown on the greasy illegals invasion is a GREAT thing, as 
is the shutdown of DEI in the federal govt, and many of his early 
executive orders.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/what-has-trump-signed-so-far-full-list-of-executive-orders-actions-taken-in-1st-week-of-presidency/3655184/



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#684577

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-25 10:28 -0500
Message-ID<jq7lP.54422$nlJ1.20767@fx41.iad>
In reply to#684574
On 1/25/25 9:47 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/25/2025 9:16 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 1/25/25 9:07 AM, DFS wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Slimer/Crude Sausage is very fluent in French and English (and 
>>> Polish), so he can help you too (when he's not too busy writing 
>>> fanboy letters to Trump and Putin and Assad).
>>
>> It's still better than masturbating to images of Kamala Harris and 
>> Hillary Clinton the way that you do.
> 
> 
> The deranged lowlife Trump pardoned hundreds of violent Jan 6 losers. 
> Unbelievable.

He pardoned patriots just like he said he would, the horror!

>  Even some of those pardoned think the pardons are a joke:
> 
> Jason Riddle pleaded guilty to theft of government property and 
> illegally protesting inside the Capitol. He was sentenced in April 2022 
> to 90 days in prison.
> 
> He was struggling with alcohol in Jan 2021, and "obsessed" with Trump. 
> Now he says: "I don't need to obsess over a narcissistic bully to feel 
> better about myself.  Trump can shove his pardon up his a--."

If he feels that life is better in prison, that's fine. However, Enrique 
Tarrio in his interview on Louder with Crowder made it clear that these 
people were offered a release if they testified against Trump or spoke 
ill of him. It's pretty clear what happened here. It's also pretty clear 
that facts don't penetrate that head of yours when they contradict the 
political beliefs you hold.

> But the crackdown on the greasy illegals invasion is a GREAT thing, as 
> is the shutdown of DEI in the federal govt, and many of his early 
> executive orders.
> 
> https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/what-has-trump-signed-so-far- 
> full-list-of-executive-orders-actions-taken-in-1st-week-of- 
> presidency/3655184/
Soon, there won't be spics and niggers lining up to rape Chris Ahlstrom. 
He might soon be able to walk properly again.

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#684617

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-26 11:01 -0500
Message-ID<vn5m8q$3t56b$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684577
On 1/25/2025 10:28 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 1/25/25 9:47 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/25/2025 9:16 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 1/25/25 9:07 AM, DFS wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Slimer/Crude Sausage is very fluent in French and English (and 
>>>> Polish), so he can help you too (when he's not too busy writing 
>>>> fanboy letters to Trump and Putin and Assad).
>>>
>>> It's still better than masturbating to images of Kamala Harris and 
>>> Hillary Clinton the way that you do.
>>
>>
>> The deranged lowlife Trump pardoned hundreds of violent Jan 6 losers. 
>> Unbelievable.
> 
> He pardoned patriots just like he said he would, the horror!

Being patriotic doesn't forgive violence and aggravated assault and 
death threats to innocent people.  Many of those Jan 6 dirtbags hit 
security people and cops on the head with metal, choked them, gassed 
them, shouted 'hang Mike Pence', etc.

I can only imagine the pathetic whining if cops did the same thing to them.



>>   Even some of those pardoned think the pardons are a joke:
>>
>> Jason Riddle pleaded guilty to theft of government property and 
>> illegally protesting inside the Capitol. He was sentenced in April 
>> 2022 to 90 days in prison.
>>
>> He was struggling with alcohol in Jan 2021, and "obsessed" with Trump. 
>> Now he says: "I don't need to obsess over a narcissistic bully to feel 
>> better about myself.  Trump can shove his pardon up his a--."
> 
> If he feels that life is better in prison, that's fine. 

Notice now that he's sober, he can't stand Trump.




> However, Enrique 
> Tarrio in his interview on Louder with Crowder made it clear that these 
> people were offered a release if they testified against Trump or spoke 
> ill of him. 

1)  How could those clowns testify against Trump?  They didn't meet with
     him personally to plan the bumbling riot they participated in.

2)  since when is 'speaking ill' of someone the defendant doesn't even
     know a prosecution strategy?

Tarrio is full of shit.  How can you believe these losers?

Trump is full of shit, too.  He thinks being reelected and pardoning 
those idiots means he was in the right.  He wasn't.  And his lies about 
a "stolen election" were and always will be lies.  If anything, it was 
people loyal to Trump that tried to steal the election: fake electors 
that forged signatures, Fox News lying blabbermouths, the shameful Rudy 
Giuliani, the nutjob Mike Lindell and his lies and false data, etc.

Hey, why didn't the same clowns protest the 2024 election results?




> It's pretty clear what happened here.

Yes it is.  Mentally-impaired malcontents believed everything the 
scumbag liar Donald Trump said, and some acted upon their stupidity. And 
then they were caught and punished for it.  And now the scumbag liar 
Donald Trump has prematurely ended their punishment.




> It's also pretty clear that facts

What facts are you referring to?  You didn't provide any.  Trump didn't 
provide any.  Tarrio didn't provide any.



> don't penetrate that head of yours when they contradict the 
> political beliefs you hold.

You concoct, in your head, the political beliefs I hold in mine.



>> But the crackdown on the greasy illegals invasion is a GREAT thing, as 
>> is the shutdown of DEI in the federal govt, and many of his early 
>> executive orders.
>>
>> https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/what-has-trump-signed-so-far- 
>> full-list-of-executive-orders-actions-taken-in-1st-week-of- 
>> presidency/3655184/
> Soon, there won't be spics and niggers lining up to rape Chris Ahlstrom. 
> He might soon be able to walk properly again.

Don't forget his wife violates him too...

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#684650

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-27 08:34 -0500
Message-ID<9YLlP.1558093$FOb4.211386@fx15.iad>
In reply to#684617
On 2025-01-26 11:01 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 1/25/2025 10:28 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 1/25/25 9:47 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2025 9:16 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/25 9:07 AM, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Slimer/Crude Sausage is very fluent in French and English (and 
>>>>> Polish), so he can help you too (when he's not too busy writing 
>>>>> fanboy letters to Trump and Putin and Assad).
>>>>
>>>> It's still better than masturbating to images of Kamala Harris and 
>>>> Hillary Clinton the way that you do.
>>>
>>>
>>> The deranged lowlife Trump pardoned hundreds of violent Jan 6 losers. 
>>> Unbelievable.
>>
>> He pardoned patriots just like he said he would, the horror!
> 
> Being patriotic doesn't forgive violence and aggravated assault and 
> death threats to innocent people.  Many of those Jan 6 dirtbags hit 
> security people and cops on the head with metal, choked them, gassed 
> them, shouted 'hang Mike Pence', etc.
> 
> I can only imagine the pathetic whining if cops did the same thing to them.

Those who were responsible for actual crimes had their sentences 
commuted but were not pardoned. The ones who were pardoned were people 
who committed no crimes whatsoever other than being guilty of walking 
through Congress with a police escort. Enrique Tarrio, who got two 
decades, wasn't anywhere near the area that day. His is a definition of 
a political prosecution.

< snip DFS's complete ignorance of the details >

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#684550

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-24 22:37 +0000
Message-ID<pan$116ff$1ffa282b$a281b8ee$cb7e72c4@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684545
On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
>> Unicode math symbols are extensive but, AFAIK, there are no
>> keyboards that contain even a partial subset of the symbols.
>> Instead, a complicated sequence/combination of key presses
>> is required for each symbol and such key presses often differ
>> with different software.  Entering math symbols is a huge
>> mess.
> 
> There are tools here to help you with that.
> 

Provide a link that is not web oriented.

You cannot.


> 
> The "Windows key" is just useless for you who are a lackey of your
> mouse pretending the keyboard is superior.
>

You missed my entire X keyboard redirection.

Why?

Because you are a fucking IDIOT.

> 
>> This layout needs some work and is also DOES NOT WORK ON THAT
>> JUNK WAYLAND.
> 
> Exactly my point. It's a lot of work where alternatives are easy to use
> and better which can work at the same time with wayland and with xorg.
> 

You have no fucking alternatives.  You are just babbling like a psycho
in a lunatic asylum.

>
> you'd know how important a good terminal is and you would consider
> kitty,
>

You only advocate "kitty" because you cannot obtain any "pussy."

(Excuse me if the English colloquial expression cannot be translated
into French.)

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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#684558

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-25 01:04 +0000
Message-ID<lvirk4Feeq1U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684545
On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> I'm not complaining about that. I'm saying that your keyboard, as all
> keyboard designed for Americans are only designed to write English, the
> rest can fall into oblivion.

When we did a project for Puerto Rico we bought a couple of Spanish 
keyboards. Yes you can do mappings or weird key combinations but it is a 
PITA.

The Spanish keyboards didn't do much for our inability to speak Spanish 
but so it goes. Let them figure out the Spanglish.

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#684560

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-01-25 02:14 +0000
Message-ID<vn1hei$2ghnh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684545
On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> There is no such thing as "the" standard computer keyboard.

The most common one would be the 🇺🇸 layout, which we use here in 🇳🇿 as 
well.

I can type all kinds of characters on that, by defining a Compose key
<https://wiki.wlug.org.nz/ComposeKey>.

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#684564

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-01-25 11:05 +0000
Message-ID<6794c58b$0$5219$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#684560
Le 25-01-2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
> On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> There is no such thing as "the" standard computer keyboard.
>
> The most common one would be the 🇺🇸 layout, which we use here in 🇳🇿 as 
> well.

In the picture which one represents the real standard one?
<https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/s4u4ju/a_guide_i_made_on_keyboard_sizes/#lightbox>

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#684691

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-28 22:30 -0500
Message-ID<vnc7ck$27fpq$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684564
On 1/25/2025 6:05 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 25-01-2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> There is no such thing as "the" standard computer keyboard.
>>
>> The most common one would be the 🇺🇸 layout, which we use here in 🇳🇿 as
>> well.
> 
> In the picture which one represents the real standard one?
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/s4u4ju/a_guide_i_made_on_keyboard_sizes/#lightbox>


K is by far the most common layout I've seen.  I would consider it the 
standard.

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#684821

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-02-01 10:19 +0000
Message-ID<679df52e$0$532$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#684691
Le 29-01-2025, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 1/25/2025 6:05 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 25-01-2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
>>> On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as "the" standard computer keyboard.
>>>
>>> The most common one would be the 🇺🇸 layout, which we use here in 🇳🇿 as
>>> well.
>> 
>> In the picture which one represents the real standard one?
>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/s4u4ju/a_guide_i_made_on_keyboard_sizes/#lightbox>
>
> K is by far the most common layout I've seen.  I would consider it the 
> standard.

I never seen a laptop with a keyboard like that.

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#684565

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-25 11:06 +0000
Message-ID<pan$98209$56ed84d1$dea34e6a$a44cd1a8@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684545
On 24 Jan 2025 20:16:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
> There is no such thing as "the" standard computer keyboard. The fact
> 

Special keyboards, which could be "daisy chained*" to the regular
keyboard, should be available but they are not.

Here is an image of the main wxMaxima window:

https://i.postimg.cc/vBpCTv6S/keyboards.png

Note on the left are a couple of panes that contain various math
characters (all Unicode).  By clicking on a character with the
mouse pointer (or with a complex keystroke shortcut) it will be
entered into the text area on the right.

But what about doing this with actual hardware?

I should be able to purchase small, specialized keyboards containing
these characters that could be plugged via USB into my main keyboard.
With this daisy chaining technique I could have all the Unicode
symbols that I require directly at my fingertips.  No more awkward
mouse entry would be necessary.

However, such specialized keyboards do not exist.  We are all stuck
with the common ordinary Qwerty keyboard hardware.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_chain_(electrical_engineering)





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#684276

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-18 15:40 +0000
Message-ID<pan$2d823$6b7ca6f8$b4fee37e$3824c239@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684273
On 18 Jan 2025 14:00:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
> For your
> information, at that time, Britain possessed only a part of north
> America. So when the British colonies switched to Gregorian calendar,
> most of the Americas were already using it.
> 

It is all a consequence of the Protestant-Catholic split.

France was a Catholic nation and was forced by the popes to adopt
the GC.

Britain, however, was Protestant and tended to reject Catholic
ideas.

So I don't need your fucking information.  I am only concerned
with the reason Unix/Linux/GNU has chosen 1752 for its default.



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#684303

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-01-18 23:12 +0000
Message-ID<678c354a$0$12913$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#684276
Le 18-01-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 18 Jan 2025 14:00:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> 
>> For your
>> information, at that time, Britain possessed only a part of north
>> America. So when the British colonies switched to Gregorian calendar,
>> most of the Americas were already using it.
>> 
>
> It is all a consequence of the Protestant-Catholic split.

Yes, I know that, it's that obvious I believed that even an illiterate
like you would knew that and I didn't need to spell it.

> France was a Catholic nation and was forced by the popes to adopt
> the GC.

Yes but no. France wasn't forced, but it was the good thing to do and
did it because following the Pope wasn't an issue for them. Unlike
England which preferred to be at odd with the reality than following the
Pope.
 
> Britain, however, was Protestant and tended to reject Catholic
> ideas.
>
> So I don't need your fucking information.

In fact, you did. You changed the subject to run like Forrest GUMP, but
I know why I wrote that. You said that Americas changed the date when it
was only a part of north America which did. The Americas were colonies of
Portugal, Spain, France and England at that time. And England was far
from having the broader part of it. And it was the only protestant part
when the other parts already switched to the Gregorian calendar.

> I am only concerned with the reason Unix/Linux/GNU has chosen 1752 for
> its default.

No, you were speaking about the Americas, when your sentence concerned
only a limited portion of it. And your vision of the world reflects
exactly what I spoke in another message: as a real limited American, you
don't consider anything outside of the USA as existing. And that's the
reason you can't understand that if you belong to one of the greatest
nation of the world you are heated by the rest of the world. It's
because you consider everything outside of America as your colony, not
because everyone is jealous of you.

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#684277

FromFarley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks>
Date2025-01-18 16:45 +0000
Message-ID<181bd73f94a9f6ec$173491$891815$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#684273
On 18 Jan 2025 14:00:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
> Rely, I dont care about issues about things that don't matter. Nobody is
> concerned about that. You should take care of actual problems in actual
> life. I knew you are stuck in the past, I didn't knew it was that long
> ago.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  You are truly an anti-intellectual
deadbeat.

These things should concern all of us but, thanks to fucking
intellectual losers like you, we are stuck with this ridiculous
calendar.

Consider how stupid this calendar is:

* Each month has a different number of days.

* Each month has weeks of 7 days that never fit but always overlap.

It's a total fucking mess, and it affects all of us through
weird billing, delivery, payroll, holiday, and many other schedules.

There have been attempts at calendar reform in the recent past
but all have, predictably, failed due to anti-intellectual assholes
like you.

We need a calendar with regular months, commensurate weeks, and
other features to eliminate the current fiasco.

You read about it here:

https://www.cs.oberlin.edu/~jwalker/calendarReform/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevehanke/2018/12/20/its-time-to-change-the-calendar-once-and-for-all/

There are many other sources that describe the much needed calendar
reform.

But it is quit predictable that, because of anti-intellectual assholes
like you, reform will always fail.  We are, therefore, stuck forever
with this current calendric mess.

Thanks a lot, fucking idiot asshole.


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#684294

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 15:28 -0600
Message-ID<vmh6dd$13eic$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684277
On 1/18/25 10:45 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On 18 Jan 2025 14:00:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>>
>> Rely, I dont care about issues about things that don't matter. Nobody is
>> concerned about that. You should take care of actual problems in actual
>> life. I knew you are stuck in the past, I didn't knew it was that long
>> ago.
>>
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  You are truly an anti-intellectual
> deadbeat.
> 
> These things should concern all of us but, thanks to fucking
> intellectual losers like you, we are stuck with this ridiculous
> calendar.
> 
> Consider how stupid this calendar is:
> 
> * Each month has a different number of days.
> 
> * Each month has weeks of 7 days that never fit but always overlap.
> 
> It's a total fucking mess, and it affects all of us through
> weird billing, delivery, payroll, holiday, and many other schedules.
> 
> There have been attempts at calendar reform in the recent past
> but all have, predictably, failed due to anti-intellectual assholes
> like you.
> 
> We need a calendar with regular months, commensurate weeks, and
> other features to eliminate the current fiasco.
> 


Nice!

Check out the Iranian so-called "algorithmic" calendar. A lot of your 
concerns are solved in it. It's the best calendar that exists.




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#684287

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 14:39 -0600
Message-ID<vmh3ho$13eic$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684272
On 1/18/25 6:24 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> But there is no jump at Oct 5 1582 either because all previous
> dates are the GC extrapolated backwards:


That's what's needed only when the question is, "How many days ago was 
that event?" This is not all that a calendar _conversion_ program can 
provide (mine uses such extrapolations too when needed).

When converting a calendar date recorded in some old source in Gregorian 
or Julian or whatever, to another calendar in use elsewhere to get an 
idea it was simultaneously with what events in those other places, this 
use of GC (i.e. extrapolated backward) can't be readily used.



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