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My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay

Started byFarley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks>
First post2025-01-12 18:00 +0000
Last post2025-01-15 16:04 -0600
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  My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-12 18:00 +0000
    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-12 18:46 +0000
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 19:00 +0000
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 14:29 -0500
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 15:07 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 19:34 -0600
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 11:36 +0000
                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:12 -0600
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-13 12:39 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 18:03 +0000
                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-13 15:42 -0500
                  Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-13 21:43 +0000
                    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-13 23:45 +0000
                      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 18:23 -0600
                        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-13 21:50 -0500
                          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-14 08:46 +0000
                            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 07:28 -0600
                            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 08:34 -0500
                              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-14 14:03 +0000
                                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:43 -0500
                                  Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-14 18:16 +0000
                                  Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-14 18:35 +0000
                                    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 13:53 -0500
                                      Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-14 22:34 +0000
                                        Re: Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 00:39 +0000
                                          Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 01:20 +0000
                                            Re: Kilowatts % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 18:23 -0700
                                              Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 02:37 +0000
                                                Re: Kilowatts % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 20:39 -0700
                                                  Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 03:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Kilowatts % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 05:46 -0700
                                                    Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 13:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Kilowatts % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 06:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 13:44 +0000
                                                          Re: Kilowatts % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 07:06 -0700
                                                            Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 14:22 +0000
                                                              Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 16:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 16:38 +0000
                                                                  Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 17:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:07 +0000
                                                                    Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 18:01 +0000
                                                                      Re: πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆKilowattsπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ πŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆJenπŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆ Dershmender πŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸΆη¬›πŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆ <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 19:06 +0000
                                                                        Re: πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆKilowattsπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 20:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 19:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 20:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: Kilowatts CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-15 15:54 -0500
                                                                        Re: Kilowatts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:06 -0500
                                                                          Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-16 13:21 +0000
                                                Re: Kilowatts Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 22:54 -0500
                                                Re: Kilowatts rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:08 +0000
                                            Re: Kilowatts pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-15 01:41 +0000
                                              Re: Kilowatts rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:02 +0000
                                            Re: Kilowatts rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 05:59 +0000
                                        Re: Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay) Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 09:40 +0000
                                          Re: Kilowatts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 10:11 +0000
                                        Re: Kilowatts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 06:55 -0500
                                          Re: Kilowatts Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 13:38 +0000
                                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 15:27 -0600
                            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 15:22 -0600
                      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-14 11:05 +0000
                        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 15:52 -0600
                    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:20 -0600
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 15:15 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 15:23 -0500
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 16:17 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 16:30 -0500
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 16:35 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 16:42 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:33 +0000
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 17:01 -0600
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 18:06 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:53 -0500
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:27 +0000
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 20:03 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 19:19 -0600
    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Nick Charles - 2025-01-12 14:12 -0500
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 19:30 +0000
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Nick Charles - 2025-01-13 15:21 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 15:37 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-13 21:29 +0000
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Nick Charles - 2025-01-14 00:13 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 07:35 -0600
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 16:07 -0600
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-15 22:24 +0000
                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Retarded Kiddie Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 17:03 -0600
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 17:18 -0600
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 13:02 +0000
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:00 -0600
    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 17:39 -0500
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 17:43 -0500
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 17:22 -0600
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 18:44 -0500
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 18:07 -0600
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 20:01 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-13 08:19 +0000
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 12:21 +0000
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-13 00:02 +0000
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 19:59 -0500
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 11:14 +0000
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:28 -0600
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Of Filth CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 20:15 -0500
    Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 16:54 -0600
      Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-13 14:04 +0000
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 19:06 -0600
        Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 15:09 -0600
          Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-14 16:27 -0500
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-14 16:48 -0500
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 17:06 -0500
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-14 17:33 -0500
                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 18:15 -0500
                  Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-14 20:19 -0500
                  Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 16:00 -0600
            Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:02 +0000
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 19:39 -0600
              Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 20:07 -0600
                Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 16:04 -0600

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#683990

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-01-14 12:43 -0500
Message-ID<vm67nj$2gq6u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683986
On 1/14/25 9:03 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:34:38 -0500, -hh wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> That's why I always put a 100mA fuse on my circuits.
>>> But the fuse is intended not to save me but to save the
>>> voltage regs.
>>
>> Oh, so your 'glorious' PC runs on <100mA?  That's interesting, because a
>> 3.5" HDD run on 12V and each one draws up to 12W, so each one of yours
>> needs 10x more amperage than your fuze allows.
>>
> 
> Jesus F. Christ!  What a supreme idiot!
> 
> That fantastic, technically perfect power supply is for the microphone.

Ah, so you were being ambiguous again on your claims.

But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?

FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you 
chose to make it unservicable, despite already having two panels which 
would have been easy & conveniently mounted:  you're showing that if a 
fuze does exist, you have a piss-poor circuit design implementation.

FWIW, I think I had one of the dot matrix printers you designed for 
decades ago ... you know, the one with the refitted board on the print 
head to add the wheatstone bridge that had been forgotten?  /s

And of course your other problem is that your so-called 'microphone' is 
just one piece of cruddy shit you have laying around without adequate 
electrical protection:  where's the safety/fuzes for each of the PCs?

Better go lick your fingers and start checking if they're grounded.

-hh

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#683992

FromFarley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
Date2025-01-14 18:16 +0000
Message-ID<181aa1dec4ce4e0a$101944$292657$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#683990
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:

>  where's the safety/fuzes for each of the PCs?
>

Each motherboard power supply has its own internal fuse.


> 
> Better go lick your fingers and start checking if they're grounded.
> 

The metal box of each motherboard power supply is also grounded
so there is never a danger of shock.

Also, every connector has the metal contacts buried in plastic.
There is no way for a human to contact them even if he desired.

I used to actually ground myself via a wrist strap to drain away
any static charge before working on the MB, but I don't do that
anymore.  I can just touch the power supply case which is grounded.

Your concerns border on insanity.  You should consult a qualified
neurologist.


-- 
Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#683993

FromFarley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
Date2025-01-14 18:35 +0000
Message-ID<181aa2e783f6507c$101945$292657$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#683990
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:

> 
> But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?
> 
> FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you 
> chose to make it unservicable,
>

Oops.  I erred.  There is no fuse on this unit.

Those are 1.5 amp voltage regulators, which means they can output
a max current of 1.5 amps.  Note the tall heat sinks.

Although this unit will see not that much current output.  Here it
powers a single op amp with only milliamps of current required.

Anyone who would believe that such a circuit posed a danger should
undergo a comprehensive neurological examination.


>
> despite already having two panels which 
> would have been easy & conveniently mounted:  you're showing that if a 
> fuze does exist, you have a piss-poor circuit design implementation.
> 

Fuse holders are readily avaiable that allow the easily installation
and replacement of fuses.

Circuit layouts do not have to be aeshetically pleasing.  They just have
to work and this circuit design is likely the best possible.



-- 
Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#683994

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-01-14 13:53 -0500
Message-ID<vm6brg$2gmp1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683993
On 1/14/25 1:35 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:
> 
>>
>> But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?
>>
>> FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you
>> chose to make it unservicable,
>>
> 
> Oops.  I erred.  There is no fuse on this unit.

QED.


-hh

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#684005 — Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-14 22:34 +0000
SubjectKilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay)
Message-ID<luo747F10p6U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683994
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:53:36 -0500, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
wrote in <vm6brg$2gmp1$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 1/14/25 1:35 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?
>>>
>>> FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you
>>> chose to make it unservicable,
>>>
>>>
>> Oops.  I erred.  There is no fuse on this unit.
> 
> QED.

He also erred, confusing the Amperage from a 120V
circuit for that for a 5V circuit -- then referred to
it as "EE", when it was basic electronics.

I was lucky enough to grow up with a Dad who was extremely
savvy to electronics, who learned the ropes from _his_ dad (as
well as being a Fire Control Technician in the Navy, and having
a career with electronics in DCPA/FEMA, and, and...).

Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components
in High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having
a structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).

(BTW, I was converting horsepower to kilowatts and back again when
I would read Chilton manuals for foreign automobiles in 6th grade.)

ObLinux: 

units(1) knows horsepower.

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.13.0-rc7 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
   "I am in total control, but don't tell my wife."

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#684011 — Re: Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-15 00:39 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts (was: Re: My Linux Lair -- A Photo Essay)
Message-ID<luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684005
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:

> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
> High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which wasn't
> called that back then...).

My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the lag 
between high school courses and the rest of the world, the discretes would 
have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.

https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp

If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had an 
advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store' part was 
small compared to the back room with units waiting repair. 'In those days 
when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced 'it has to go back 
to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you that you should get your 
affairs in order.

He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs were 
cutting edge technology.

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#684020 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 01:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<luogqlF6geaU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684011
On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
>> High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>> wasn't called that back then...).
> 
> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
> lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the discretes
> would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
> 
> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
> 
> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
> 
> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had an
> advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store' part
> was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair. 'In those
> days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced 'it has to
> go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you that you should
> get your affairs in order.
> 
> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
> were cutting edge technology.

I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew
a cap.

It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the
tv was making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on
one side.  Then "pop!" and the picture went away.

We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also
fixed my Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting
rid of the 60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.

https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm

As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot
with my Radioman rating in the CG.

Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in
the world, thanks to having a very, very long longwire
antenna.  Building that was how Dad taught me to differentiate
between physical connections and electrical connections.  Made
from zip-cord, it went out the window, up a tree, then out to
a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to another pole
at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX listening.

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#684021 — Re: Kilowatts

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-14 18:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#684020
vallor wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
> <luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
>>> High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>>> wasn't called that back then...).
>>
>> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
>> lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the discretes
>> would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
>>
>> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
>>
>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
>>
>> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had an
>> advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store' part
>> was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair. 'In those
>> days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced 'it has to
>> go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you that you should
>> get your affairs in order.
>>
>> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
>> were cutting edge technology.
> 
> I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew
> a cap.
> 
> It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the
> tv was making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on
> one side.  Then "pop!" and the picture went away.
> 
> We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also
> fixed my Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting
> rid of the 60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
> 
> https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
> 
> As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot
> with my Radioman rating in the CG.
> 
> Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in
> the world, thanks to having a very, very long longwire
> antenna.  Building that was how Dad taught me to differentiate
> between physical connections and electrical connections.  Made
> from zip-cord, it went out the window, up a tree, then out to
> a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to another pole
> at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX listening.
> 
why didn't you try transmitting

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#684027 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 02:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<luolapF7gicU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684021
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 18:23:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>> <luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
>>>> High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>>>> wasn't called that back then...).
>>>
>>> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
>>> lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
>>> discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
>>>
>>> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
>>>
>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
>>>
>>> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had
>>> an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store'
>>> part was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair.
>>> 'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced
>>> 'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you
>>> that you should get your affairs in order.
>>>
>>> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
>>> were cutting edge technology.
>> 
>> I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a cap.
>> 
>> It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was making
>> a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side.  Then "pop!"
>> and the picture went away.
>> 
>> We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also fixed my
>> Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the 60Hz
>> hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
>> 
>> https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
>> 
>> As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
>> Radioman rating in the CG.
>> 
>> Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
>> thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna.  Building that was
>> how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections and
>> electrical connections.  Made from zip-cord, it went out the window, up
>> a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to
>> another pole at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX listening.
>> 
> why didn't you try transmitting

Who says I didn't?  But not on HF -- unless you count
27.125 MHz.

I did get my tech ham license while in the CG, which was
handy because we started doing MARS on the ship, and
I ended up as chief operator.  Sometimes after the phone
patches were done, I'd talk to the shoreside ham volunteer
in whose debt we all were, who had questions about our gear.
We had some pretty swizzy mini-loop antennas that they wanted
to know about.

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#684030 — Re: Kilowatts

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-14 20:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<e4ydnfbaOouasxr6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#684027
vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 18:23:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>>> <luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
>>>>> High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>>>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>>>>> wasn't called that back then...).
>>>>
>>>> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
>>>> lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
>>>> discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
>>>>
>>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
>>>>
>>>> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had
>>>> an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store'
>>>> part was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair.
>>>> 'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced
>>>> 'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you
>>>> that you should get your affairs in order.
>>>>
>>>> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
>>>> were cutting edge technology.
>>>
>>> I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a cap.
>>>
>>> It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was making
>>> a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side.  Then "pop!"
>>> and the picture went away.
>>>
>>> We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also fixed my
>>> Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the 60Hz
>>> hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
>>>
>>> https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
>>>
>>> As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
>>> Radioman rating in the CG.
>>>
>>> Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
>>> thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna.  Building that was
>>> how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections and
>>> electrical connections.  Made from zip-cord, it went out the window, up
>>> a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to
>>> another pole at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX listening.
>>>
>> why didn't you try transmitting
> 
> Who says I didn't?  But not on HF -- unless you count
> 27.125 MHz.
> 
> I did get my tech ham license while in the CG, which was
> handy because we started doing MARS on the ship, and
> I ended up as chief operator.  Sometimes after the phone
> patches were done, I'd talk to the shoreside ham volunteer
> in whose debt we all were, who had questions about our gear.
> We had some pretty swizzy mini-loop antennas that they wanted
> to know about.
> 
ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole

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#684031 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 03:46 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<luopd7F7gicU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684030
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:39:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<e4ydnfbaOouasxr6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 18:23:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>>>> <luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components
>>>>>> in High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>>>>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>>>>>> wasn't called that back then...).
>>>>>
>>>>> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given
>>>>> the lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
>>>>> discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I
>>>>> had an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the
>>>>> 'store' part was small compared to the back room with units waiting
>>>>> repair. 'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls,
>>>>> pronounced 'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor
>>>>> telling you that you should get your affairs in order.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
>>>>> were cutting edge technology.
>>>>
>>>> I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a
>>>> cap.
>>>>
>>>> It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was
>>>> making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side.  Then
>>>> "pop!" and the picture went away.
>>>>
>>>> We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also fixed my
>>>> Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the
>>>> 60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
>>>>
>>>> https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
>>>>
>>>> As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
>>>> Radioman rating in the CG.
>>>>
>>>> Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
>>>> thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna.  Building that
>>>> was how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections
>>>> and electrical connections.  Made from zip-cord, it went out the
>>>> window, up a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then
>>>> across to another pole at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX
>>>> listening.
>>>>
>>> why didn't you try transmitting
>> 
>> Who says I didn't?  But not on HF -- unless you count 27.125 MHz.
>> 
>> I did get my tech ham license while in the CG, which was handy because
>> we started doing MARS on the ship, and I ended up as chief operator. 
>> Sometimes after the phone patches were done, I'd talk to the shoreside
>> ham volunteer in whose debt we all were, who had questions about our
>> gear.
>> We had some pretty swizzy mini-loop antennas that they wanted to know
>> about.
>> 
> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole

'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
radio a really good ground.

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#684061 — Re: Kilowatts

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-15 05:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<reacnc2Fq8eTMxr6nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#684031
vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:39:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <e4ydnfbaOouasxr6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 18:23:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>>>>> <luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components
>>>>>>> in High School?  I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
>>>>>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
>>>>>>> wasn't called that back then...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given
>>>>>> the lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
>>>>>> discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I
>>>>>> had an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the
>>>>>> 'store' part was small compared to the back room with units waiting
>>>>>> repair. 'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls,
>>>>>> pronounced 'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor
>>>>>> telling you that you should get your affairs in order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
>>>>>> were cutting edge technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a
>>>>> cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was
>>>>> making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side.  Then
>>>>> "pop!" and the picture went away.
>>>>>
>>>>> We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it.  He also fixed my
>>>>> Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the
>>>>> 60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
>>>>> Radioman rating in the CG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
>>>>> thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna.  Building that
>>>>> was how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections
>>>>> and electrical connections.  Made from zip-cord, it went out the
>>>>> window, up a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then
>>>>> across to another pole at the other end of the yard.  Great for DX
>>>>> listening.
>>>>>
>>>> why didn't you try transmitting
>>>
>>> Who says I didn't?  But not on HF -- unless you count 27.125 MHz.
>>>
>>> I did get my tech ham license while in the CG, which was handy because
>>> we started doing MARS on the ship, and I ended up as chief operator.
>>> Sometimes after the phone patches were done, I'd talk to the shoreside
>>> ham volunteer in whose debt we all were, who had questions about our
>>> gear.
>>> We had some pretty swizzy mini-loop antennas that they wanted to know
>>> about.
>>>
>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
> 
> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
> radio a really good ground.
> 
where i live what you described is a dipole ,
i had a half wave 250 feet in the air

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#684063 — Re: Kilowatts

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-15 13:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<pan$522bf$b81c4bf1$6ceb2296$67a21541@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684031
On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:

>>> 
>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
> 
> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
> radio a really good ground.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dunce!

EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.

And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
just to save your sorry ass.

EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.

Now shut the fuck up.





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#684065 — Re: Kilowatts

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-15 06:21 -0700
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<F4adnQYtKfjLKxr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#684063
Farley Flud wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>>>>
>>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
>>
>> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
>> radio a really good ground.
>>
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dunce!
> 
> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
> 
> And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
> just to save your sorry ass.
> 
> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
> 
> Now shut the fuck up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
i was getting there

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#684069 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 13:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<lupsd5FdacaU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684065
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:21:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<F4adnQYtKfjLKxr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Farley Flud wrote:
>> On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>>>>
>>>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
>>>
>>> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
>>> radio a really good ground.
>>>
>> 
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dunce!
>> 
>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>> 
>> And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
>> just to save your sorry ass.
>> 
>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>> 
>> Now shut the fuck up.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> i was getting there

So you're both wrong.  Dipoles are tapped in the middle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_wire_antenna

Sigmonster for the Feeb:

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#684072 — Re: Kilowatts

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-15 07:06 -0700
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<4-udnW4MKdqYXBr6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#684069
vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:21:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <F4adnQYtKfjLKxr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> Farley Flud wrote:
>>> On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
>>>>
>>>> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
>>>> radio a really good ground.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dunce!
>>>
>>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>>>
>>> And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
>>> just to save your sorry ass.
>>>
>>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>>>
>>> Now shut the fuck up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> i was getting there
> 
> So you're both wrong.  Dipoles are tapped in the middle.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_wire_antenna
> 
> Sigmonster for the Feeb:
> 
they're tapped where ever they can be ,
that's the whole idea for getting around ,
corners and bends

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#684073 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 14:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<lupul4FdacaU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684072
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 07:06:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<4-udnW4MKdqYXBr6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:21:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <F4adnQYtKfjLKxr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
>>>>>
>>>>> 'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the radio a really
>>>>> good ground.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a dunce!
>>>>
>>>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>>>>
>>>> And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
>>>> just to save your sorry ass.
>>>>
>>>> EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
>>>>
>>>> Now shut the fuck up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> i was getting there
>> 
>> So you're both wrong.  Dipoles are tapped in the middle.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_wire_antenna
>> 
>> Sigmonster for the Feeb:
>> 
> they're tapped where ever they can be , that's the whole idea for
> getting around ,
> corners and bends

Now you're making sophomoric semantics arguments.

Is this a dipole?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna

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#684080 — Re: Kilowatts

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-15 16:26 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<pan$b5c74$65460671$b69b76f0$73f9a684@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684073
On 15 Jan 2025 14:22:29 GMT, vallor wrote:

> 
> Is this a dipole?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
>

Yes, it is.  But a dummy like you could never tell.

A Rhombic is merely 2 V-antennas connected end-to-end
and a V-antenna is ... guess what ... a dipole.

Give it up, loser.  You haven't a leg to stand on.


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#684082 — Re: Kilowatts

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-15 16:38 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<luq6ksFfc8fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684080
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:26:51 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$b5c74$65460671$b69b76f0$73f9a684@linux.rocks>:

> On 15 Jan 2025 14:22:29 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
> 
>> Is this a dipole?
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
>>
>>
> Yes, it is.  But a dummy like you could never tell.
> 
> A Rhombic is merely 2 V-antennas connected end-to-end and a V-antenna is
> ... guess what ... a dipole.
> 
> Give it up, loser.  You haven't a leg to stand on.

If -- as you claim -- every antenna is a "dipole", then what
use is there in the term?

I think this is another of your sophomoric semantics arguments.

So...is this a dipole?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna

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#684083 — Re: Kilowatts

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-15 17:01 +0000
SubjectRe: Kilowatts
Message-ID<pan$f2b57$1a0dd767$25304550$f0d8f1b9@linux.rocks>
In reply to#684082
On 15 Jan 2025 16:38:52 GMT, vallor wrote:

> 
> If -- as you claim -- every antenna is a "dipole", then what
> use is there in the term?
> 

The "term" is for professionals.

Amateurs, like you, are left floating in the swamp.

Now go away.  I don't want to hear any more of your ignoramus
bullshit.





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