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Low Quality People: The Proof

Started byFarley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
First post2025-01-09 12:57 +0000
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  Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 12:57 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 08:16 -0500
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 08:45 -0500
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-09 13:52 +0000
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-09 09:53 -0500
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-09 21:09 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:50 +0000
          Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 12:01 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 07:09 -0500
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 13:44 -0600
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 20:30 +0000
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 16:01 -0600
                  Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 22:23 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:05 -0500
      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-09 20:59 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 00:09 +0000
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:58 -0600
        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:01 -0500
          Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:26 +0000
            Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-10 20:39 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:31 -0500
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 19:24 -0600
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 11:08 +0000
                  Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 13:31 -0600
                    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 20:13 +0000
                      Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 15:14 -0600
                        Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-11 22:07 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 02:51 +0000
                Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:03 +0000
              Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:54 +0000
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 18:44 -0600
    Re: Low Quality People: The Proof Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:43 +0000

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#683464 — Low Quality People: The Proof

FromFarley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
Date2025-01-09 12:57 +0000
SubjectLow Quality People: The Proof
Message-ID<1819078b4e833630$34272$1948878$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
Low quality people don't read books.

Name the book or books that you are currently reading.

Here's mine:

"The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
Dover Publications, 1958

"The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
Chapman and Hall, 2019

Now list yours.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
  
Don't go away mad, just go away.


-- 
Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#683466

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-09 08:16 -0500
Message-ID<ovivnj90s7oqkeejn4dgr7tm26fgdd2ufj@4ax.com>
In reply to#683464
Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> wrote:

>Low quality people don't read books.
>
>Name the book or books that you are currently reading.
>
>Here's mine:
>
>"The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
>Dover Publications, 1958
>
>"The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
>Chapman and Hall, 2019
>
>Now list yours.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>  
>Don't go away mad, just go away.


Fuckin' geek nerd, who has time for reading a God damn book, I read
this screen.  Action.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#683469

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-09 08:45 -0500
Message-ID<vlojsu$3ciip$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683464
On 1/9/2025 7:57 AM, Low Quality Larry Piet wrote:

> Low quality people ...

Live off their Mom their entire lives.

Exceptionally low quality people have no shame about doing so.

You're exceptionally low quality.


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#683472

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-09 13:52 +0000
Message-ID<lua2kqFpppsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683464
On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:57:06 +0000, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
wrote in <1819078b4e833630$34272$1948878$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> Low quality people don't read books.
> 
> Name the book or books that you are currently reading.
> 
> Here's mine:
> 
> "The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
> Dover Publications, 1958
> 
> "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
> Chapman and Hall, 2019
> 
> Now list yours.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>   
> Don't go away mad, just go away.

When someone makes these sorts of blurts, I suggest they run:

$ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xjack

...and then stare at the screen until they are enlightened.

ObLinux: later on today, we're setting up Mrs. vallor's new Linux 
workstation in her office.  It already has Mint 21.3 on it, but
I'm bumping that up to Mint 22 for better WiFi happiness.  Still
going to use X11, with XFCE, and adding Cairo Dock so she doesn't
feel like a stranger.

Her own Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS is ready to be plugged in for Elite
Dangerous Odyssey goodness.  We had it running on her iMac before (under
Windows), and she's already flown successfully.  Also keeping an eye on
Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 for when it gets a little more stable on Linux.

Fine, I'll answer your question:

Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian 
Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.

Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.  The Missus was 
interested in my description of a murder mystery set on the moon, so we're 
about to read _The Patchwork Girl_ in our very own "book club of two".

A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their 
computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.

-- 
-v ASUS TUF Dash F15 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3060 Mobile
   OS: Linux 5.15.0-130-generic Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 15.9G
   "Going the speed of light is bad for your age."

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#683477

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-01-09 09:53 -0500
Message-ID<vlonst$3cfk6$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683472
On 1/9/25 8:52 AM, vallor wrote:
> ...
> 
> ObLinux: later on today, we're setting up Mrs. vallor's new Linux
> workstation in her office.  It already has Mint 21.3 on it, but
> I'm bumping that up to Mint 22 for better WiFi happiness.  Still
> going to use X11, with XFCE, and adding Cairo Dock so she doesn't
> feel like a stranger.
> 
> Her own Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS is ready to be plugged in for Elite
> Dangerous Odyssey goodness.  We had it running on her iMac before (under
> Windows), and she's already flown successfully.  Also keeping an eye on
> Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 for when it gets a little more stable on Linux.

My obLinux update is that the NAS's RAM upgrade went fine.  Still 
haven't gotten around to benchmarking any performance changes yet.


> Fine, I'll answer your question:
> 
> Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian
> Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.
> 
> Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.  The Missus was
> interested in my description of a murder mystery set on the moon, so we're
> about to read _The Patchwork Girl_ in our very own "book club of two".
> 
> A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their
> computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.

The newly updated (new commentaries by Jason Zweig) 3rd Edition of 
Benjamin Graham's "The Intelligent Investor"...

plus Lawson Wood's "Shipwrecks of the Cayman Island".  It reportedly had 
information on a particular site, but appears to have been incorrect.


-hh


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#683543

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-09 21:09 +0000
Message-ID<pan$6573c$e3e4a9d1$23718180$47079a0a@linux.rocks>
In reply to#683472
On 9 Jan 2025 13:52:26 GMT, vallor wrote:

> 
> Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian 
> Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.
> 

Great!

>
> Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.
>

I don't approve of fiction.

The world in which we exist is far too stimulating to have
to waste time with (someone else's) fantasies.

> 
> A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their 
> computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.
>

Of course, idiot.

All books nowadays are e-books.

And what is "dry" to you is stimulating to others.

But the claim that "a lot of people do plenty of reading" should be
modified to "a lot of people read unedifying trash."

FTFY.

Now get back to your comics.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#683708

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-01-11 11:50 +0000
Message-ID<67825ae8$0$28061$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#683543
Le 09-01-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 9 Jan 2025 13:52:26 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.
>>
>
> I don't approve of fiction.

Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
develop imagination. And the imagination is the most important thing for
an artist. And imagination is the most important thing for a scientist.
Which explains why, unlike your continuous claims, you are not an
artist.

> The world in which we exist is far too stimulating to have
> to waste time with (someone else's) fantasies.

You found time to waste staring blankly at your computer trying to
compile your kernel. At least, developing your imagination would help
you to improve the quality of your insults.

> Of course, idiot.

You se? Once again. No imagination. No quality. Nothing but the same
word used again and again.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#683710

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-11 12:01 +0000
Message-ID<pan$9307c$84553a07$c8e629dc$b872277f@linux.rocks>
In reply to#683708
On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
> Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
> develop imagination.
>

Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."

Play is fiction -- living fiction.

But then eventually childhood, and the concurrent playing, will
end.  We then become adults and turn our attention to the
real, objective world.  There is no more play.  There is no
more fiction.

A lot of people, including YOU, never had much of a chance
at childhood play.  They, including YOU, were far too supervised
and inhibited.  Consequently, they, and YOU, can only begin
to freely play, through fiction, as adults.  It's sad.
It's pathetic.

Now get back to your games, little boy (i.e. idiot).

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!





-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#683713

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 07:09 -0500
Message-ID<enn4ojpajgjc43k8go597ll622870ogec6@4ax.com>
In reply to#683710
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
>> develop imagination.
>
>Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."
>
>Play is fiction -- living fiction.
>
>But then eventually childhood, and the concurrent playing, will
>end.  We then become adults and turn our attention to the
>real, objective world.  There is no more play.  There is no
>more fiction.
>
>A lot of people, including YOU, never had much of a chance
>at childhood play.  They, including YOU, were far too supervised
>and inhibited.  Consequently, they, and YOU, can only begin
>to freely play, through fiction, as adults.  It's sad.
>It's pathetic.
>
>Now get back to your games, little boy (i.e. idiot).
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


You're describing being a workaholic, not general adultness.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#683761

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 13:44 -0600
Message-ID<vluhmm$252gp$5@solani.org>
In reply to#683710
On 1/11/25 6:01 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>>
>> Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
>> develop imagination.
>>
> 
> Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."
> 
> Play is fiction -- living fiction.
> 
> But then eventually childhood, and the concurrent playing, will
> end.  We then become adults and turn our attention to the
> real, objective world.  There is no more play.  There is no
> more fiction.
> 
> A lot of people, including YOU, never had much of a chance
> at childhood play.  They, including YOU, were far too supervised
> and inhibited.  Consequently, they, and YOU, can only begin
> to freely play, through fiction, as adults.  It's sad.
> It's pathetic.
> 
> Now get back to your games, little boy (i.e. idiot).
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Hahhahhahhh :-)

American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France, 
they are about 5 times more so.

That's how kids grow to become Sheep. To become "DFS" :( To line up 
volunteering for a life of "Aiming High!" ...

Military service is a natural continuation of the American household. 
And the French are five times worse.

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#683768

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-11 20:30 +0000
Message-ID<pan$4673f$68aca682$11c3f6d3$12f9d7e8@linux.rocks>
In reply to#683761
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:44:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> 
> American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France, 
> they are about 5 times more so.
> 

You are not joking.

I often drive through the American suburbs, with their neatly groomed
streets and houses, and I will ask myself: "Where do these kids play?"

I grew up in a working class area next to an industrial zone and the
railroad yards.  There were many empty fields and in the late afternoon,
after closing time, a kid could go wild with play opportunity.

And we did.

At one point we even attempted to dig a tunnel under the train
tracks but our adventure was discovered by the railroad employees
and we had to abandon it.

We had so much much wild play it would take years to even describe
it all.

But that's all in the past.  Now I am an adult and a scientist/
engineer.  I don't need stupid games nor fiction because I've done
it all already.

I pity the readers of fiction.

I pity the players of games.

They are just frustrated children.


-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#683782

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 16:01 -0600
Message-ID<vlupo6$259l2$1@solani.org>
In reply to#683768
On 1/11/25 2:30 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:44:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
>>
>> American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France,
>> they are about 5 times more so.
>>
> 
> You are not joking.
> 
> I often drive through the American suburbs, with their neatly groomed
> streets and houses, and I will ask myself: "Where do these kids play?"
> 
> I grew up in a working class area next to an industrial zone and the
> railroad yards.  There were many empty fields and in the late afternoon,
> after closing time, a kid could go wild with play opportunity.
> 
> And we did.
> 
> At one point we even attempted to dig a tunnel under the train
> tracks but our adventure was discovered by the railroad employees
> and we had to abandon it.
> 
> We had so much much wild play it would take years to even describe
> it all.
> 
> But that's all in the past.  Now I am an adult and a scientist/
> engineer.  I don't need stupid games nor fiction because I've done
> it all already.
> 
> I pity the readers of fiction.
> 
> I pity the players of games.
> 
> They are just frustrated children.
> 
> 


That's nothing compared with what we did around the age of 5 in Tehran. 
One was, making bombs :) I mean stuff strong enough to blow a 30 kg 
stone placed on top of it fly upward three stories high. So when I say 
bomb, I'm really not exaggerating.

The hardest ingredient to find in making them was the "kolorate 
potasiyom" (Potassium Chlorate). Everything else was easy to find. For 
sulfur, we used our little hand made slingshots to knock off the white 
porcelain insulators off of the top of utility poles. Inside them, you'd 
always find a large amount of sulfur. For powdered charcoal we just 
smashed charcoal to a fine powder. In those days, many people have not 
yet migrated to electric heaters. People used charcoal in their "Korsi"s 
for the winter period and for cooking in other periods of the year. It 
was always available, and was among the usual items that every house 
purchased from stores and bazars.

But for the damn potassium chlorate we had to walk to two neighborhoods 
away to a pharmacy that was owned and operated by Jews. Only that 
pharmacy sold us potassium chlorate, knowing full well why we were 
buying them. Other ones much closer to us, would not sell it to kids, 
considering them too dangerous.

That mixture created gun powder, and it was one of the ways for us to 
create bombs with. We had four or five different ways of making bombs, 
using even a certain brand of movie reels of film which were sold to 
kids for looking at the negative pictures against a source of light, but 
we also used them to make bombs with, cause they were extremely flammable.

And every now and then, some site would begin construction, and we'd get 
the material we needed for CO2 based bombs in there placed right on the 
grounds, easily taken during night. Often in same sites one could find 
empty sturdy strong bottles that held thinners and acetone, etc. These 
bottles were part of the bomb design :) And when they exploded, boy, the 
scene of everything around it was something to see and enjoy. Hehe :)

On rare occasions, some stupid kid would even throw one of them over the 
wall into the yard of a Baha'i neighbor at the instigation of some 
suckers much older than us... it was not good and we kids would not 
condone it at all because that would mean the end of our fun that day. 
We had to run. Within 15 minutes the alley would get filled with police.

I have said nothing of a myriad of other strange things we did. Climbing 
trees through the branches of which naked live power lines passed. 
Running on top of high walls along their whole stretch, sometimes a kid 
coming down to ground accompanied with half of the wall! And we had 
"kids' Jihad!".. the assyrian neighborhood (they were christian) was a 
short walking distance away. Oh, we were rough. Strange that any of us 
got passed that period unharmed.





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#683785

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-11 22:23 +0000
Message-ID<pan$afd2f$f29bb4ea$62a8ad5a$c71b7378@linux.rocks>
In reply to#683782
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 16:01:41 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> On 1/11/25 2:30 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:44:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France,
>>> they are about 5 times more so.
>>>
>> 
>> You are not joking.
>> 
>> I often drive through the American suburbs, with their neatly groomed
>> streets and houses, and I will ask myself: "Where do these kids play?"
>> 
>> I grew up in a working class area next to an industrial zone and the
>> railroad yards.  There were many empty fields and in the late afternoon,
>> after closing time, a kid could go wild with play opportunity.
>> 
>> And we did.
>> 
>> At one point we even attempted to dig a tunnel under the train
>> tracks but our adventure was discovered by the railroad employees
>> and we had to abandon it.
>> 
>> We had so much much wild play it would take years to even describe
>> it all.
>> 
>> But that's all in the past.  Now I am an adult and a scientist/
>> engineer.  I don't need stupid games nor fiction because I've done
>> it all already.
>> 
>> I pity the readers of fiction.
>> 
>> I pity the players of games.
>> 
>> They are just frustrated children.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> That's nothing compared with what we did around the age of 5 in Tehran. 
> One was, making bombs :) I mean stuff strong enough to blow a 30 kg 
> stone placed on top of it fly upward three stories high. So when I say 
> bomb, I'm really not exaggerating.
> 
> The hardest ingredient to find in making them was the "kolorate 
> potasiyom" (Potassium Chlorate). Everything else was easy to find. For 
> sulfur, we used our little hand made slingshots to knock off the white 
> porcelain insulators off of the top of utility poles. Inside them, you'd 
> always find a large amount of sulfur. For powdered charcoal we just 
> smashed charcoal to a fine powder. In those days, many people have not 
> yet migrated to electric heaters. People used charcoal in their "Korsi"s 
> for the winter period and for cooking in other periods of the year. It 
> was always available, and was among the usual items that every house 
> purchased from stores and bazars.
> 
> But for the damn potassium chlorate we had to walk to two neighborhoods 
> away to a pharmacy that was owned and operated by Jews. Only that 
> pharmacy sold us potassium chlorate, knowing full well why we were 
> buying them. Other ones much closer to us, would not sell it to kids, 
> considering them too dangerous.
> 
> That mixture created gun powder, and it was one of the ways for us to 
> create bombs with. We had four or five different ways of making bombs, 
> using even a certain brand of movie reels of film which were sold to 
> kids for looking at the negative pictures against a source of light, but 
> we also used them to make bombs with, cause they were extremely flammable.
> 
> And every now and then, some site would begin construction, and we'd get 
> the material we needed for CO2 based bombs in there placed right on the 
> grounds, easily taken during night. Often in same sites one could find 
> empty sturdy strong bottles that held thinners and acetone, etc. These 
> bottles were part of the bomb design :) And when they exploded, boy, the 
> scene of everything around it was something to see and enjoy. Hehe :)
> 
> On rare occasions, some stupid kid would even throw one of them over the 
> wall into the yard of a Baha'i neighbor at the instigation of some 
> suckers much older than us... it was not good and we kids would not 
> condone it at all because that would mean the end of our fun that day. 
> We had to run. Within 15 minutes the alley would get filled with police.
> 
> I have said nothing of a myriad of other strange things we did. Climbing 
> trees through the branches of which naked live power lines passed. 
> Running on top of high walls along their whole stretch, sometimes a kid 
> coming down to ground accompanied with half of the wall! And we had 
> "kids' Jihad!".. the assyrian neighborhood (they were christian) was a 
> short walking distance away. Oh, we were rough. Strange that any of us 
> got passed that period unharmed.

Fantastic!  Thanks for reporting.

The closest that we got to actual bombs was using fireworks, like
hammerheads and cherry bombs, which are actually quite powerful,
to blow apart telephone poles.

And I agree.  Strange that any of us got past that period unharmed.

But we must not stray from the main point.

Most kids today, sadly, will not freely play.  They will instead grow
up to be gamers and readers of fiction.


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#683839

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
Message-ID<lui2isF353nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683710
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:01:35 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$9307c$84553a07$c8e629dc$b872277f@linux.rocks>:

> On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
> 
>> Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
>> develop imagination.
>>
>>
> Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."

The Bard is not "for children".

And when it comes to fiction: you certainly write enough of it.

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#683496

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-01-09 11:05 -0500
Message-ID<vlos3t$3e1r9$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683464
Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> Low quality people don't read books.
>
> Name the book or books that you are currently reading.
>
> Here's mine:
>
> "The Philosophy of Space and Time,"  Hans Reichenbach
> Dover Publications, 1958
>
> "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
> Chapman and Hall, 2019
>
> Now list yours.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>   
> Don't go away mad, just go away.

I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local
library.  I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one
science or another.

Occasionally a book won't pan out, and I'll stop reading it.

    A man ought to read just as inclination leads him, for what he reads as a
    task will do him little good.  -- Samuel Johnson

-- 
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"Pearl Harbor File".

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#683542

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-01-09 20:59 +0000
Message-ID<pan$c6010$2d92c749$cebe15fd$954e124e@linux.rocks>
In reply to#683496
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:05:16 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> 
> I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local
> library.  I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one
> science or another.
> 

That's great!

But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

I won't tell you how, but you should be able to acquire any
book published in the last 75-years (a lot have been scanned)
gratis within 20 minutes or so.

Information wants to be free and it shall be free.

Thanks to GNU/Linux, it is possible for anyone to produce
a publication quality book and then publish the same on
a web site.

The only problem is the cranks.

For example, on sci.physics, a notorious crank with the nym
"Archimedes Plutonium" has actually published books on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/Archimedes-Plutonium/author/B089QBZX8W

Only a fool would ever buy them.

But publishing now belongs to the individual author and not
the grubbing publishing companies.


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#683556

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-10 00:09 +0000
Message-ID<lub6osF147vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683542
On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 20:59:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
> e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

The local library has a large digital collection. There is an app, libby, 
that allows you to search the collection and download the books. Some go 
directly to the libby app, others are routed to your kindle via Amazon.

https://libbyapp.com/interview/welcome#doYouHaveACard

The new library has considerably more floor space than the old, including 
a maker space, av, childrens' area, meeting rooms, a demo kitchen area, 
and so forth. I'm not convinced there are any more hardcopy books than 
before the move but they're not as crowded on the shelves. 

Even before the new library digital material, including DVDs, was slowly 
growing in importance.  

Back in the '60s one of my senior projects was sort of a thought 
experiment on how automated information retrieval in a library could be 
implemented. The assumption was the data would be on microfiche. About 15 
years ago when the library installed a DVD retrieval system something like 
the defunct RedBox kiosks it looked very familiar. 

Like many technical advancements the idea was there but it had to wait on 
components to become available like aviation waited on light weight power 
sources.

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#683563

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-09 18:58 -0600
Message-ID<vlprc3$2e4uq$3@solani.org>
In reply to#683542
On 1/9/25 2:59 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I won't tell you how, but you should be able to acquire any
> book published in the last 75-years (a lot have been scanned)
> gratis within 20 minutes or so.
> 
> Information wants to be free and it shall be free.
> 
> 


You mean in the English language. No?

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#683591

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-01-10 07:01 -0500
Message-ID<vlr27l$3vgr7$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#683542
Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:05:16 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> 
>> I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local
>> library.  I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one
>> science or another.
>> 
>
> That's great!
>
> But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
> e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

I have "purchased" some books from Barnes and Noble. Including some old science
fiction. "Bug Jack Barron", "Space War Blues", "A Feast Unknown", "Lord Tyger".

Plenty of good reads available on Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg 
Australia. I have a soft spot for the (predictable) adventures of
Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Often enough a book can be found in PDF format by simple googling.

> I won't tell you how, but you should be able to acquire any
> book published in the last 75-years (a lot have been scanned)
> gratis within 20 minutes or so.

I downloaded the famous "Gravitation" book (Kip Thorne et al) but now
they inundate me with spam.

> Information wants to be free and it shall be free.

Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.
For example, Michael Kerrisk's 1000-page book on "The Linux Programming
Interface". Easy to search and far easier to move back and forth.
Not to mention one can glance between two pages easily.

> Thanks to GNU/Linux, it is possible for anyone to produce
> a publication quality book and then publish the same on
> a web site.
>
> The only problem is the cranks.
>
> For example, on sci.physics, a notorious crank with the nym
> "Archimedes Plutonium" has actually published books on Amazon:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/stores/Archimedes-Plutonium/author/B089QBZX8W
>
> Only a fool would ever buy them.
>
> But publishing now belongs to the individual author and not
> the grubbing publishing companies.

Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.

When I lived in LA, I would go to this place, now, sadly, closed:

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/opamp-technical-books-los-angeles-2

-- 
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#683646

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-10 20:26 +0000
Message-ID<lude2sFc9tjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#683591
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 07:01:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.
> For example, Michael Kerrisk's 1000-page book on "The Linux Programming
> Interface". Easy to search and far easier to move back and forth.
> Not to mention one can glance between two pages easily.

I do miss that part of hardcopy books. While you can bookmark electronic 
texts it isn't the same. For programming books code examples may be poorly 
formatted or difficult to read. 

Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six 
days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice 
switch. 

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