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| Started by | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| First post | 2024-12-19 20:03 -0500 |
| Last post | 2024-12-25 16:19 -0500 |
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The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:03 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:52 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 07:26 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 23:15 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-23 23:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:48 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-25 06:54 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-25 20:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 22:23 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-28 07:04 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 16:53 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 19:34 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 15:07 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 15:12 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 17:11 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:16 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:24 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 15:39 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 17:39 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 18:58 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:10 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 19:21 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:02 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 18:35 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 19:51 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 22:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 03:48 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:55 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-29 20:15 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:49 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 08:31 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 19:12 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:53 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 21:06 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 01:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 20:52 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:02 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-18 11:54 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 18:46 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:51 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 09:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:53 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:42 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:44 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 23:14 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 03:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:09 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-12-29 01:43 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:52 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 07:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 06:58 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 21:17 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 20:41 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 23:31 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 10:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:24 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 13:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 13:18 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:14 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:44 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:22 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:36 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-31 19:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 11:46 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:27 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:16 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 18:50 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 02:30 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 07:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 01:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 16:15 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 16:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 19:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:30 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-30 12:53 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-30 04:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-30 13:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:45 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:31 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-01 14:50 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:03 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:41 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:15 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:03 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-04 04:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 08:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:42 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 01:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 10:29 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:38 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 11:45 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 12:00 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-04 18:01 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 13:59 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-04 20:45 +0000
The Desktop Environment (was: Re: The problem with not owning the software) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-05 03:05 +0000
Re: The Desktop Environment (was: Re: The problem with not owning the software) pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-05 17:28 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 20:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-04 15:58 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-04 11:23 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 21:13 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-04 21:50 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:39 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 01:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:04 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:07 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:22 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 08:23 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 22:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 00:12 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-07 02:10 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:31 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:12 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 02:26 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 13:28 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:28 +0000
[OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 01:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:01 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 06:47 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:20 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-08 12:21 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:10 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 21:18 -0500
[OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 02:34 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 22:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 07:19 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-05 10:39 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:39 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:13 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-05 08:52 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:53 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 21:26 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 06:38 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 13:19 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 08:48 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:02 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 09:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:32 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 20:56 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:03 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:32 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-05 11:05 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:29 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-05 13:53 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 15:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 10:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 10:28 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 11:26 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 12:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 12:40 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:23 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:27 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:21 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-29 07:41 -0700
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:05 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 20:50 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:05 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:09 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-03 21:00 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 23:28 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 21:17 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:25 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:19 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-04 04:49 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 01:10 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:52 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 15:55 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:20 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 08:11 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 16:16 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 22:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:36 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:20 -0600
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 18:58 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 02:18 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:41 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 13:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 13:54 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:26 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:43 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 10:32 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:37 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 19:43 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:58 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:25 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 19:32 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 01:43 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:53 +0800
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:08 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:32 +0100
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:34 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:29 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:59 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 18:01 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 08:55 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:33 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 19:32 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:46 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:17 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:57 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:47 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:14 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:02 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-31 10:10 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:50 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 12:09 -0500
Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-04 10:31 +0000
Re: The problem with not owning the software bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-25 16:19 -0500
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-19 20:03 -0500 |
| Subject | The problem with not owning the software |
| Message-ID | <Tn39P.50437$%aWb.4583@fx18.iad> |
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-365-users-hit-by-random-product-deactivation-errors/> Microsoft is investigating a known issue triggering "Product Deactivated" errors for customers using Microsoft 365 Office apps. According to online user reports on Reddit and Microsoft's own community website, affected users randomly received these "Product Deactivated" errors in Office apps, prompting confusion and disruptions. As Redmond explained in a support document published on Thursday, these problems stem from licensing changes initiated by administrators. More precisely, the known issue arises when moving users between licensing groups (including Azure Active Directory groups or synced on-premises security groups) or switching user subscriptions, such as changing from an Office 365 E3 license to a Microsoft 365 E3 license. It can also be triggered when admins remove and re-add users to license groups, adjust license or service plan settings, or toggle the "Latest version of Desktop Apps" service plan under the Microsoft 365 subscription. To address this deactivation issue, customers can click the "Reactivate" button on the error banner and sign in when prompted. Alternatively, they can sign out of all Microsoft 365 apps, close them, and restart them before signing back in. If the issue persists, users are advised to contact their administrators to check if the Microsoft 365 subscription has expired. Admins can check subscription details under the Microsoft 365 subscription management portal. For further troubleshooting, Microsoft advises users with open support cases to provide diagnostic data to its engineers, collected using the Office Licensing Diagnostic Tool, which can help find the root cause of licensing-related issues. Affected users are also prompted to provide support engineers with the logs stored in the %temp%/diagnostics directory. While Microsoft has yet to share a timeline for a fix, its engineering team is actively investigating this known issue. The company encourages affected users and administrators to monitor its support channels for updates. Last month, Microsoft also shared a temporary fix for a known issue affecting Microsoft 365 customers that causes classic Outlook to hang or freeze when copying text. In September, the company fixed another bug that crashed Microsoft 365 apps (i.e., Outlook, Word, Excel, OneNote) when typing or spell-checking a text. -- CrudeSausage
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 16:52 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <vk5vjq$3v34m$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #680832 |
On 20/12/2024 9:03 am, CrudeSausage wrote: > <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-365-users-hit-by-random-product-deactivation-errors/> > > Microsoft is investigating a known issue triggering "Product > Deactivated" errors for customers using Microsoft 365 Office apps. > It's not about "owning the software", but whether it requires a real-time online account to work. The usual words are "standalone" and "offline". :)
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 07:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nuy9P.28629$aTp4.27488@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #680976 |
Le 2024-12-21 à 03:52, Mr. Man-wai Chang a écrit : > On 20/12/2024 9:03 am, CrudeSausage wrote: >> <https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-365-users- >> hit-by-random-product-deactivation-errors/> >> >> Microsoft is investigating a known issue triggering "Product >> Deactivated" errors for customers using Microsoft 365 Office apps. >> > > It's not about "owning the software", but whether it requires a real- > time online account to work. The usual words are "standalone" and > "offline". :) The moment you require an online account to verify if you are the person who bought the software, you don't own it. -- CrudeSausage
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 23:15 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkbuqd$18m92$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #680982 |
On 21/12/2024 8:26 pm, CrudeSausage wrote: > Le 2024-12-21 à 03:52, Mr. Man-wai Chang a écrit : >> On 20/12/2024 9:03 am, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >> It's not about "owning the software", but whether it requires a real- >> time online account to work. The usual words are "standalone" and >> "offline". :) > > The moment you require an online account to verify if you are the person > who bought the software, you don't own it. If you really paid for it, the online check should still tell you that you own it, or at least, you have a "digital entitlement". :) Office 365 is not the same as the older standalone Office 2021. Well... I am still using 2007 and 2010.
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2024-12-23 23:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9OCcnRW7grqkbPT6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #681129 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11 Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/12/2024 8:26 pm, CrudeSausage wrote:
> > Le 2024-12-21 à 03:52, Mr. Man-wai Chang a écrit :
> >> On 20/12/2024 9:03 am, CrudeSausage wrote:
> >>
> >> It's not about "owning the software", but whether it requires a real-
> >> time online account to work. The usual words are "standalone" and
> >> "offline". :)
> >
> > The moment you require an online account to verify if you are the person
> > who bought the software, you don't own it.
> If you really paid for it, the online check should still tell you that
> you own it, or at least, you have a "digital entitlement". :)
And if this company goes away... :(
> Office 365 is not the same as the older standalone Office 2021. Well...
> I am still using 2007 and 2010.
I am using updated 2007 SR3 and LibreOffice, but I rarely use Office
anymore like my younger days since Office 95.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-25 11:48 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkfva1$28j6k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #681168 |
On 24/12/2024 7:24 am, Ant wrote: > > I am using updated 2007 SR3 and LibreOffice, but I rarely use Office > anymore like my younger days since Office 95. As a programmer, I also seldom use Office, except for writing application letters and resume.
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| From | ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) |
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| Date | 2024-12-25 06:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhidnRVe4vqlMfb6nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #681224 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11 Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/12/2024 7:24 am, Ant wrote:
> >
> > I am using updated 2007 SR3 and LibreOffice, but I rarely use Office
> > anymore like my younger days since Office 95.
> As a programmer, I also seldom use Office, except for writing
> application letters and resume.
Like me!
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-25 20:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkhqif$2hvap$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681224 |
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:48:16 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > As a programmer, I also seldom use Office, except for writing > application letters and resume. As a programmer, I like to use powerful and versatile tools. That includes the ability to automate workflow. Tools exist for this purpose, like odfpy for ISO 26300 files, which are the native format of LibreOffice. And LibreOffice itself can run Python code.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-27 22:23 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkmd9n$3l76a$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #681288 |
On 26/12/2024 4:39 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > As a programmer, I like to use powerful and versatile tools. That includes > the ability to automate workflow. > > Tools exist for this purpose, like odfpy for ISO 26300 files, which are > the native format of LibreOffice. And LibreOffice itself can run Python > code. My programming tasks has never ever needed to automate Office using VBA.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 07:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vko7up$6qks$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681360 |
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:23:49 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > On 26/12/2024 4:39 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> As a programmer, I like to use powerful and versatile tools. That includes >> the ability to automate workflow. >> >> Tools exist for this purpose, like odfpy for ISO 26300 files, which are >> the native format of LibreOffice. And LibreOffice itself can run Python >> code. > > My programming tasks has never ever needed to automate Office using VBA. So your needs are fairly simple. That’s nothing to be ashamed of.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 16:53 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkoeb0$85fe$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #681446 |
On 28/12/2024 3:04 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:23:49 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> >> My programming tasks has never ever needed to automate Office using VBA. > > So your needs are fairly simple. That’s nothing to be ashamed of. And downright old and legacy management information systems(MIS)!!! :)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 19:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltb26aFov8dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #681446 |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:04:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:23:49 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > >> On 26/12/2024 4:39 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> As a programmer, I like to use powerful and versatile tools. That >>> includes the ability to automate workflow. >>> >>> Tools exist for this purpose, like odfpy for ISO 26300 files, which >>> are the native format of LibreOffice. And LibreOffice itself can run >>> Python code. >> >> My programming tasks has never ever needed to automate Office using >> VBA. > > So your needs are fairly simple. That’s nothing to be ashamed of. You do realize there is a whole world outside of Office?
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 15:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <fUYbP.143220$bYV2.129957@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #681490 |
On 2024-12-28 14:34, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:04:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:23:49 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> >>> On 26/12/2024 4:39 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> As a programmer, I like to use powerful and versatile tools. That >>>> includes the ability to automate workflow. >>>> >>>> Tools exist for this purpose, like odfpy for ISO 26300 files, which >>>> are the native format of LibreOffice. And LibreOffice itself can run >>>> Python code. >>> >>> My programming tasks has never ever needed to automate Office using >>> VBA. >> >> So your needs are fairly simple. That’s nothing to be ashamed of. > > You do realize there is a whole world outside of Office? Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't do much other than open up Word and Excel. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 15:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpm0njh1ebgjs37ohhpq0tbvhq1mutjoac@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #681494 |
Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >On 2024-12-28 14:34, rbowman wrote: >> >> You do realize there is a whole world outside of Office? > >Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as >some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't >do much other than open up Word and Excel. Yes, they get these people to buy a laptop every three years, to keep up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my computer is beyond what they could know. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 17:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <II_bP.117623$ZAue.69791@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #681497 |
On 2024-12-28 15:12, Joel wrote: > Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2024-12-28 14:34, rbowman wrote: >>> >>> You do realize there is a whole world outside of Office? >> >> Yeah, it sometimes pains me that it is brought up as often as it is as >> some sort of must-have piece of software. It suggests that people don't >> do much other than open up Word and Excel. > > > Yes, they get these people to buy a laptop every three years, to keep > up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty > Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my > computer is beyond what they could know. I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than video editing or gaming. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 17:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <75u0nj5lmr8ncph7vdemdtph8r2asc5jh7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #681505 |
Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> people ... buy a laptop every three years, to keep >> up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty >> Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my >> computer is beyond what they could know. > >I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more >than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling >today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need >to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't >offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than >video editing or gaming. It's just a scheme to keep people upgrading hardware. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 13:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vks3mp$12a03$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681509 |
On 12/28/24 5:17 PM, Joel wrote: > Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > >>> people ... buy a laptop every three years, to keep >>> up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty >>> Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my >>> computer is beyond what they could know. >> >> I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more >> than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling >> today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need >> to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't >> offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than >> video editing or gaming. > > > It's just a scheme to keep people upgrading hardware. Only if you allow it to be. Case in point, I've recently replaced a 2017 laptop, which in its seven years of use only had $135 in MS software purchases: that's <$2/month. Its replacement's initial software was $100 (MS Office 2024), which should be good for four years and be similarly cost just ~$2/month. If I optionally choose to add photo editing, a new license for Adobe Photoshop Elements is currently $70 for 3 years, which is ~$2/month. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 14:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7e83nj9u4odffnkir4rk9bjqr9nk6q106j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #681604 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >On 12/28/24 5:17 PM, Joel wrote: >> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> >>>> people ... buy a laptop every three years, to keep >>>> up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty >>>> Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my >>>> computer is beyond what they could know. >>> >>> I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more >>> than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling >>> today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need >>> to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't >>> offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than >>> video editing or gaming. >> >> It's just a scheme to keep people upgrading hardware. > >Only if you allow it to be. Hence why I'm running and advocating Linux. >Case in point, I've recently replaced a 2017 laptop, which in its seven >years of use only had $135 in MS software purchases: that's <$2/month. >Its replacement's initial software was $100 (MS Office 2024), which >should be good for four years and be similarly cost just ~$2/month. > >If I optionally choose to add photo editing, a new license for Adobe >Photoshop Elements is currently $70 for 3 years, which is ~$2/month. Sure, but that doesn't address increasing demands on hardware. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 15:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vksc1a$12a03$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681611 |
On 12/29/24 2:24 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >> On 12/28/24 5:17 PM, Joel wrote: >>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>> >>>>> people ... buy a laptop every three years, to keep >>>>> up with M$'s grotesque OS's bloat, so that they can have their pretty >>>>> Office apps. It's unbelievable. The value I'm getting from my >>>>> computer is beyond what they could know. >>>> >>>> I was telling my wife the exact same thing. We're not doing much more >>>> than we were in 2008, yet a 2008 machine would be incapable of handling >>>> today's software (unless it's running Linux). At some point, people need >>>> to wake up and realize that the exponential increase in speed isn't >>>> offering any real benefit to users who are doing anything other than >>>> video editing or gaming. >>> >>> It's just a scheme to keep people upgrading hardware. >> >> Only if you allow it to be. > > > Hence why I'm running and advocating Linux. > > >> Case in point, I've recently replaced a 2017 laptop, which in its seven >> years of use only had $135 in MS software purchases: that's <$2/month. >> Its replacement's initial software was $100 (MS Office 2024), which >> should be good for four years and be similarly cost just ~$2/month. >> >> If I optionally choose to add photo editing, a new license for Adobe >> Photoshop Elements is currently $70 for 3 years, which is ~$2/month. > > > Sure, but that doesn't address increasing demands on hardware. Oh, so *one* software upgrade over 7 years is suddenly now going to be some undue 'hardware demand'? Not even for MS-Office it isn't. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 16:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4be3nj9ng3rt4rbo3elmi5beokatgednud@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #681625 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>> I've recently replaced a 2017 laptop, which in its seven >>> years of use only had $135 in MS software purchases: that's <$2/month. >>> Its replacement's initial software was $100 (MS Office 2024), which >>> should be good for four years and be similarly cost just ~$2/month. >>> >>> If I optionally choose to add photo editing, a new license for Adobe >>> Photoshop Elements is currently $70 for 3 years, which is ~$2/month. >> >> Sure, but that doesn't address increasing demands on hardware. > >Oh, so *one* software upgrade over 7 years is suddenly now going to be >some undue 'hardware demand'? Not even for MS-Office it isn't. I had the ideal computer, to upgrade to Windows 11, in 2021. Freshly built with Win10, SSD storage, blah blah, but 23H2 was already feeling overweight. Hence running Linux till this thing dies. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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