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| First post | 2024-12-17 05:09 +0000 |
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Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 05:09 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-17 05:56 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 06:20 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:47 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:10 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:10 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:51 -0700
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 16:23 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 09:27 -0700
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 20:16 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:40 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-18 05:58 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-18 08:21 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:27 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-20 01:28 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:46 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-18 19:59 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:20 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:27 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 19:50 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-18 19:57 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 22:41 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:48 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-19 16:07 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:19 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 07:30 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 08:47 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 18:58 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:30 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 07:43 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 18:46 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-22 07:44 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-22 07:37 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 19:44 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 11:46 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:12 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:11 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 11:29 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 09:23 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-18 12:05 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 12:16 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-18 17:40 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 12:58 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 13:35 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-18 17:34 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 19:46 -0600
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 12:58 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 13:27 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-18 13:31 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-18 16:17 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-19 07:55 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 09:00 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 09:04 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 08:31 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:20 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-17 08:08 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 08:44 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:07 +0000
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:07 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:47 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 10:56 -0500
Re: Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 21:16 +0000
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 05:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lscfcaFrg08U1@mid.individual.net> |
Linux-hating Windoze concern trolls, listen up: In alt.comp.os.windows-11, go read the threads on "SleepStudy" and "Task Scheduler is not working in the latest Windows 11 24H2 patch". See what Microsoft is doing to those poor folks who rely on their computers to behave themselves. (Hats-off to the venerable Paul, who is ubiquitous with his assistance for those folks. But even he reports his screensaver keeps resetting to 10 minutes from his preferred 2 hours.) It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its beta-testers. Have fun with that! -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.12.5 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "A cat is nobody's fool."
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 05:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680554 |
On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: > It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its > beta-testers. You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years ago.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 06:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lscjh2Frg08U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680556 |
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: > On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: > >> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >> beta-testers. > > You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years > ago. They're more overt about it now. It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in our government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing up the marketplace. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.12.5 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "It said "Insert disk #3", but only two will fit!"
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 08:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <qhf8P.40022$%aWb.31142@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #680557 |
Le 2024-12-17 à 01:20, vallor a écrit : > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro > <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >> >>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>> beta-testers. >> >> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >> ago. > > They're more overt about it now. > > It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in > our government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing > up the marketplace. God forbid Microsoft would want Windows users to have the security they've been clamoring for! Those assholes! Why can't they just open up the hardware entirely and ensure that every part of it is exploited?! -- CrudeSausage
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 21:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vjspc7$1sthq$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680570 |
On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Le 2024-12-17 à 01:20, vallor a écrit : >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >>> >>>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>>> beta-testers. >>> >>> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >>> ago. >> >> They're more overt about it now. >> >> It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in >> our government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing >> up the marketplace. > > God forbid Microsoft would want Windows users to have the security > they've been clamoring for! Those assholes! Why can't they just open up > the hardware entirely and ensure that every part of it is exploited?! It's not security they're concerned about, it's making sure that the back doors are up and running. It's the opposite of security. It's also a way to ensure computer manufacturers stick with the monopoly company that forces people to buy their products again. A symbiotic relationship. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 18:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <1yn8P.42293$%aWb.35952@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #680631 |
Le 2024-12-17 à 16:10, RonB a écrit : > On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> Le 2024-12-17 à 01:20, vallor a écrit : >>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: >>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>>>> beta-testers. >>>> >>>> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >>>> ago. >>> >>> They're more overt about it now. >>> >>> It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in >>> our government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing >>> up the marketplace. >> >> God forbid Microsoft would want Windows users to have the security >> they've been clamoring for! Those assholes! Why can't they just open up >> the hardware entirely and ensure that every part of it is exploited?! > > It's not security they're concerned about, it's making sure that the back > doors are up and running. It's the opposite of security. > > It's also a way to ensure computer manufacturers stick with the monopoly > company that forces people to buy their products again. A symbiotic > relationship. I don't deny that at all. However, I don't think that Microsoft intentionally adds backdoors as much as the governments of the world require them for the company to sell its product in the country. I believe that both the software and hardware people use nowadays have such backdoors and there is little anyone can do to get around it. -- CrudeSausage
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 08:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <Ck2dnSLtXetyAPz6nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #680557 |
vallor wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro > <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >> >>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>> beta-testers. >> >> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >> ago. > > They're more overt about it now. > > It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in > our government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing > up the marketplace. > my market place is fine
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 16:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lsdmrsFrg08U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680581 |
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:51:12 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <Ck2dnSLtXetyAPz6nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com>: > vallor wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >>> >>>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>>> beta-testers. >>> >>> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >>> ago. >> >> They're more overt about it now. >> >> It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in our >> government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing up the >> marketplace. >> > my market place is fine Your computer is new enough to have TPM 2. Some folks aren't so lucky... -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.12.5 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "But I forgot all about the Amnesia Conference!!"
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 09:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <T-Scnbcu3fboO_z6nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #680583 |
vallor wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:51:12 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in > <Ck2dnSLtXetyAPz6nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com>: > >> vallor wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vjr3qj$1it5e$1@dont-email.me>: >>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2024 05:09:30 GMT, vallor wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's almost as if Microsoft has decided its customers are now its >>>>> beta-testers. >>>> >>>> You mean, you just discovered? Some of us noticed this happening years >>>> ago. >>> >>> They're more overt about it now. >>> >>> It's too bad that anti-trust enforcement is so defanged in our >>> government. The whole "TPM 2 for Windows 11" thing is screwing up the >>> marketplace. >>> >> my market place is fine > > Your computer is new enough to have TPM 2. > > Some folks aren't so lucky... > its not luck it's having brains enough to know what to buy , i have three machines on usenet right now
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 20:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lse4hoF4u57U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680584 |
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:27:33 -0700, % wrote: > its not luck it's having brains enough to know what to buy , > i have three machines on usenet right now Brains doesn't necessarily enter into it. I have two boxes that were built before TPM even existed. They're Fedora and Lubuntu. Three machines? Whoopee. I generally use Pan on Ubuntu but I have slrn on Fedora and Thunderbird on Windows. I can't multitask enough to use all three simultaneously.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-17 17:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <d5n8P.6737$WVI1.1066@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #680616 |
Le 2024-12-17 à 15:16, rbowman a écrit : > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:27:33 -0700, % wrote: > >> its not luck it's having brains enough to know what to buy , >> i have three machines on usenet right now > > Brains doesn't necessarily enter into it. I have two boxes that were built > before TPM even existed. They're Fedora and Lubuntu. > > Three machines? Whoopee. I generally use Pan on Ubuntu but I have slrn on > Fedora and Thunderbird on Windows. I can't multitask enough to use all > three simultaneously. It truly is sad that Microsoft essentially locked out perfectly capable computers from say 2017 with their requirements. However, software companies routinely did this with their software requirements in the 80s and 90s. The fact that people are able to get eight years of life from Windows 10 on their 2017 computer shouldn't cause them to get their panties in a bunch. Microsoft has no obligation to allow people to get a decade worth of usage from their computers and they are free to use Linux is buying new hardware bothers them that much. Meanwhile, paying customers want security on their computers to be the best that it can be and proper support for whatever hardware they connect to their machines. No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit /etc/default/grub or that they need to go into the command line to change some hidden file with nano in the faint hope that it might resolve their issue. Time is money which is why people with money don't waste their time with Linux. -- CrudeSausage
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 05:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vjtoa1$262og$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680647 |
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:40:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit /etc/default/grub > or that they need to go into the command line to change some hidden > file ... No businessman wants to do their own servicing of their car, either. They go to experts to get that done. Same with servicing their computers.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 08:21 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vjui9d$29s28$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680680 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:40:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit /etc/default/grub >> or that they need to go into the command line to change some hidden >> file ... No businessman wants to screw with the Registry to fix an issue. > No businessman wants to do their own servicing of their car, either. They > go to experts to get that done. Same with servicing their computers. Just ask any corporate IT tech about the stupidity of the Windows users he/she must deal with. -- While money doesn't buy love, it puts you in a great bargaining position.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 19:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lsgm12Fhpk7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #680694 |
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:21:49 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Just ask any corporate IT tech about the stupidity of the Windows users > he/she must deal with. https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/13/bofh_2024_episode_23/?td=rt-4a I enjoy ElReg's BOFH episodes. Acronyms: BOFH Bastard Operator From Hell PFY Pimply faced youth
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-20 01:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vk2h8d$3418q$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680694 |
On 2024-12-18, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:40:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit /etc/default/grub >>> or that they need to go into the command line to change some hidden >>> file ... > > No businessman wants to screw with the Registry to fix an issue. Of course not. They call the corporate helpdesk and make an appointment. >> No businessman wants to do their own servicing of their car, either. They >> go to experts to get that done. Same with servicing their computers. > > Just ask any corporate IT tech about the stupidity of the Windows users he/she > must deal with. We agree there. -- pothead All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron: Example of Snit trolling in real time: <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/biFilzgCcVg/m/eUcNGw6lP7UJ> All about the snit troll: <https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html> <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html> <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 08:46 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <lnA8P.39332$ZAue.19300@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #680680 |
Le 2024-12-18 à 00:58, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit : > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:40:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit /etc/default/grub >> or that they need to go into the command line to change some hidden >> file ... > > No businessman wants to do their own servicing of their car, either. They > go to experts to get that done. Same with servicing their computers. The problem is that the "experts" servicing their computers are often low-pay Haitians who don't know that much more than the users do. -- CrudeSausage
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 19:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <vjv9if$2egah$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680697 |
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:46:55 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > Le 2024-12-18 à 00:58, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit : > >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:40:00 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> No businessman wants to be told that they need to edit >>> /etc/default/grub or that they need to go into the command line to >>> change some hidden file ... >> >> No businessman wants to do their own servicing of their car, either. >> They go to experts to get that done. Same with servicing their >> computers. > > The problem is that the "experts" servicing their computers are often > low-pay ... That’s their choice: go to a reputable firm or a cut-price one. You get what you pay for. That’s how free-market competition works.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 15:20 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <cme6mjdp9sap28q705b92h7ea5h3h3c7dc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680647 |
CrudeSausage wrote: >Microsoft has no obligation to allow people to get a >decade worth of usage from their computers and they are free to use >Linux is buying new hardware bothers them that much. I tend to agree, that the TPMS requirementfor Win11 is not such a bad thing. I thought that I once read that M$ would offer, for a fee, extended Win10 security updates for those who want to keep their old hardware viable. That would be a reasonable solution to the problem. -- advocate: It's all part of the web of lies and hypocrisy that [the cola trolls] use, to attack advocates of software freedom. DumFSck, lying shamelessly: Quit lying.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 15:27 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <qbf6mjh2egpovskt2ms7uor4cc8r0n0p5s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #680735 |
chrisv wrote: >I tend to agree, that the TPMS requirement for Win11 is not such a bad >thing. s/TPMS/TPM/ Can you tell that I recently bought some new tires for my car? -- "In a world in which MS Windows exists, there is literally NO REASON to run Linux on your desktop." - some dumb fsck, lying shamelessly
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2024-12-18 19:50 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linux-hating Dimdows concern trolls, listen up |
| Message-ID | <l5K8P.44797$%aWb.14384@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #680738 |
Le 2024-12-18 à 16:27, chrisv a écrit : > chrisv wrote: > >> I tend to agree, that the TPMS requirement for Win11 is not such a bad >> thing. > > s/TPMS/TPM/ > > Can you tell that I recently bought some new tires for my car? > I do have to mention that I have a few gripes about TPM though, on AMD systems at least. Periodically, fTPM causes your computer's sound to stutter. It's rather annoying and AMD has admitted to the problem but offered no real solution to it for laptop users. I thought Linux would allow me to escape that crap but it looks like it affects that too <https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-fix-and-workaround-for-ftpm-stuttering-issues> -- CrudeSausage
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