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Two points

Started byvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
First post2024-11-29 14:52 +0000
Last post2024-12-02 23:25 +0000
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  Two points vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-11-29 14:52 +0000
    Re: Two points Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 11:00 -0500
    Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-29 21:54 +0000
      Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-01 14:29 -0500
        Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 00:43 +0000
          Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-01 21:47 -0500
            Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 05:44 +0000
              Re: Two points rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 06:14 +0000
                Re: Two points Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 01:47 -0500
              Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 08:01 -0500
                Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 23:25 +0000
                  Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 20:19 -0500
                    Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-03 02:19 +0000
                      Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 00:05 -0500
                        Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-03 06:15 +0000
                          Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 08:15 -0500
                            Re: Two points DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-04 23:13 -0500
                              Re: Two points -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-05 11:25 -0500
                  Re: Two points candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-12-03 03:50 +0000
                    Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-03 04:54 +0000
                      Re: Two points DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-03 09:23 -0500
                      Re: Two points candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-12-03 22:10 +0000
          Re: Two points Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 01:31 -0500
      Re: Two points vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-02 07:09 +0000
        Re: Two points rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 19:03 +0000
        Re: Two points Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 23:25 +0000

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#678891

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2024-12-03 09:23 -0500
Message-ID<vin49p$3o15$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#678880
On 12/2/2024 11:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> The more content-creation tools you know about, the better, I reckon. I
> have used Gimp and Inkscape most, I think. Also dabbled in Krita and
> MyPaint. Not sure about “aseprite”.



I used MS Paint to produce a cropped and enlarged pic of a bodypart of 
cola's hero:

https://imgur.com/a/sg9BXCy





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#678912

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-12-03 22:10 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvkv0as.tpju.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#678880
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 04:54 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 03:50:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Trying to learn blender..
>
> I’ve been missing about with it off and on for some years now. It’s a very 
> versatile and powerful tool. Lots of tutes available on YouTube, covering 
> various aspects of its functionality (there’s a lot to cover).

Yeah, it's quite a bit.

>> I also do some drawing in krita/aseprite.
>
> The more content-creation tools you know about, the better, I reckon. I 
> have used Gimp and Inkscape most, I think. Also dabbled in Krita and 
> MyPaint. Not sure about “aseprite”.


Aseprite is a pixel art drawing program that I think is pretty good.
-- 
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#678805

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-02 01:31 -0500
Message-ID<8vkqkjt58tr284mo4preucrivvheod677b@4ax.com>
In reply to#678792
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:29:48 -0500, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/29/24 4:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2024 14:52:53 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 2) I own two Mac mini's, which are sitting in a drawer.  They were
>>>> made from notebook equipment, and they are crap.
>>> 
>>> Since they switched to ARM, everything named “Mac” from Apple is now a
>>> glorified notebook anyway.
>> 
>> Which makes it sound like notebooks haven't advanced in the past 20
>> years to be as powerful as many desktops.
>
>They are fundamentally compromised just from the form factor. As Scotty 
>might have said, “Ya canna change the laws of physics, Cap’n!”. Push them 
>too far for too long, and they get hot. Where does the heat go? And so 
>they have to throttle back. Compared to a desktop with equivalent 
>performance specs, they have no staying power.
>
>>>> So we have a Mac Studio now, which is a low-end UNIX workstation.
>>> 
>>> Is that ARM-based? Is it as expandable as the old x86-based Mac Pro? If
>>> no, then don’t call it a “workstation”.
>>
>> The moniker of "workstation" is a bit more nebulous these days, as more 
>> and more task workflows can be adequately performed by core hardware 
>> instead of needing specialized expansion cards.
>
>In hardware terms, I think of it in terms of hardware that is configurable 
>for different uses over its working life. You need upgradeable RAM and 
>expansion slots for that. But Apple is doing away with those across its 
>entire product line.


As usual, you downplay ARM grotesquely incorrectly, I hate to agree
with anything Apple, but they were ahead of curve, though PC tech is
advancing rapidly toward ARM's inevitable dominance.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#678812

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-12-02 07:09 +0000
Message-ID<lr54oiFfnf9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#678658
On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 21:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vidd61$18mjb$5@dont-email.me>:

> On 29 Nov 2024 14:52:53 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> 2) I own two Mac mini's, which are sitting in a drawer.  They were made
>> from notebook equipment, and they are crap.
> 
> Since they switched to ARM, everything named “Mac” from Apple is now a 
> glorified notebook anyway.
> 
>> So we have a Mac Studio now, which is a low-end UNIX workstation.
> 
> Is that ARM-based? Is it as expandable as the old x86-based Mac Pro? If 
> no, then don’t call it a “workstation”.

It's very expandable.  It uses a technology that is basically
"external PCIE" -- only that's not what it's called, it's called
"Thunderbolt".

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#678838

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-12-02 19:03 +0000
Message-ID<lr6ek2Fmag8U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#678812
On 2 Dec 2024 07:09:07 GMT, vallor wrote:

> It's very expandable.  It uses a technology that is basically "external
> PCIE" -- only that's not what it's called, it's called "Thunderbolt".

It's unfortunate that royalties and Intel's certification process kept 
Thunderbolt from wide use for years.

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#678872

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-12-02 23:25 +0000
Message-ID<vilflq$3kicc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#678812
On 2 Dec 2024 07:09:07 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 21:54:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vidd61$18mjb$5@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2024 14:52:53 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> So we have a Mac Studio now, which is a low-end UNIX workstation.
>> 
>> Is that ARM-based? Is it as expandable as the old x86-based Mac Pro? If
>> no, then don’t call it a “workstation”.
> 
> It's very expandable.  It uses a technology that is basically "external
> PCIE" -- only that's not what it's called, it's called "Thunderbolt".

“External expandability” -- that’s a laugh.

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