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Serbia is again dictatorship

Started byMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
First post2019-01-08 03:48 +0000
Last post2019-01-11 14:32 -0800
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  Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-08 03:48 +0000
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-07 20:23 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 01:05 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2019-01-08 11:11 +0000
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:57 -0800
    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-08 19:17 -0500
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-09 01:28 +0000
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 19:00 -0700
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:20 -0800
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 18:37 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 18:40 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:04 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 07:28 -0600
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:29 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 09:39 -0600
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:54 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 10:11 -0600
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:30 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 11:14 -0600
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:21 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:10 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 12:35 -0600
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 11:44 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:16 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:47 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 15:25 -0600
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 13:31 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 17:58 -0500
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:22 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-09 23:22 +0000
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:34 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 18:47 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 16:32 -0500
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-09 23:19 +0000
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 20:35 -0500
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 18:00 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 08:56 -0700
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:09 -0700
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:23 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:03 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:39 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 07:36 -0600
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-10 09:14 -0500
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 11:56 -0500
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:42 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 14:18 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:35 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:52 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:09 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:26 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:32 -0700
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 18:53 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:15 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:18 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 19:45 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 20:03 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-09 20:38 -0800
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 11:53 -0500
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 09:10 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-10 13:03 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:02 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:07 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:27 -0700
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 06:47 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:49 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 05:08 +0000
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 07:29 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 16:10 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:33 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 08:07 -0600
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 06:31 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:26 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 08:47 -0700
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:51 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-11 12:29 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 14:51 -0600
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 13:14 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-11 13:56 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:17 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 22:32 +0000
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:33 -0800
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 18:03 -0500
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 15:10 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 20:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 18:39 -0700
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:40 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 15:03 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:51 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 10:57 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:08 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 18:21 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 16:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 00:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 07:24 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 06:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:10 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:26 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:44 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:45 -0600
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:16 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 22:20 +0000
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:23 -0600
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 05:47 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:43 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:16 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:35 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:46 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:57 -0700
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 10:35 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 12:49 -0600
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:23 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 12:22 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 12:41 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:56 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 14:30 -0800
                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:41 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:03 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:11 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:51 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 12:02 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 12:53 -0800
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:00 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 13:24 -0800
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 14:10 -0800
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:36 -0800
                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 04:11 -0800
                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:30 -0800
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 06:47 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:04 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 08:14 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:45 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 09:09 -0800
                                                                                      My vice is better than yours. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 10:05 -0800
                                                                                        Re: My vice is better than yours. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 11:08 -0700
                                                                                        Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 10:36 -0800
                                                                                          Give me your tired, your poor. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 12:18 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:19 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:34 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 12:46 -0800
                                                                                              Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 20:56 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 21:24 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-16 09:41 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:07 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Should a rich man ignore a bleeding man knocking on his door ? silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-17 12:02 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 06:57 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Give me your tired, your poor. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 18:28 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:37 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 07:23 -0600
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:20 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:03 -0700
                                                                                        My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 15:26 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 15:41 -0800
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 16:32 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 16:59 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:01 -0800
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-15 18:50 -0800
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 07:05 -0600
                                                                                              Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:05 -0800
                                                                                                Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 08:40 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: My vice is better than yours. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                  Who speaks for the poor ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 08:52 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-17 11:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Who speaks for the poor ? silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-17 12:10 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β° POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! β°πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”« Sir Gerg teh Yechh Master ""Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>" πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β° POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT!  β°πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β„ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ Who speaks for the poor ? ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄  Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner πŸΆη¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-17 13:00 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β° POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! β°πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”« Sir Gerg teh Yechh Master ""Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>" πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β° POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! β°πŸ”«πŸ”«πŸ”«β„ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ Who speaks for the poor ? ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 12:24 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 09:34 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Who speaks for the poor ? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Who speaks for the poor ? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                      I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 14:02 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:30 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 18:56 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-19 04:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 04:54 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 08:08 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 20:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: I'm not the least bit jealous of Warren Buffett. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:11 -0800
                                                                                                Democrats are rich scofflaws. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 08:10 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Democrats are rich scofflaws. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner πŸΆη¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-17 11:18 -0600
                                                                                            Re: My vice is better than yours. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-16 12:11 -0700
                                                                                          Re: My vice is better than yours. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:17 -0800
                                                                                          Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-15 22:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 22:42 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-16 03:53 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Children of rich parents are the worst tenants. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 04:11 -0800
                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-16 02:13 +0000
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 18:33 -0800
                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 02:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-16 18:43 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:51 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 16:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 09:37 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 11:22 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 12:12 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 12:47 -0800
                                                                                              A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 14:59 -0800
                                                                                                Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 08:59 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-18 10:09 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A family of 4, living in a 160 SqFt room, shared housing. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 10:39 -0800
                                                                                                  Poverty is a vice, wealth is a vice, everything is vice. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-18 09:38 -0800
                                                                                                Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-20 18:19 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-20 18:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 07:14 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 09:51 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 08:06 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 10:49 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 09:04 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 19:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:32 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 13:51 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 08:04 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 19:08 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:50 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 12:58 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 03:16 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 20:04 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 08:00 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 09:39 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-23 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 07:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-26 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 08:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-26 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 08:48 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-26 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 12:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-26 16:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 07:59 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-26 12:13 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:05 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:52 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 10:03 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 11:00 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-21 17:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-21 22:01 +0000
                                                                                                          "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-21 15:23 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: "To Bork" ( to fuckup ) refers to the "Swedish Chef" Muppet. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-21 23:37 +0000
                                                                                                              Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-21 17:05 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 03:36 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 20:03 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-22 08:29 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 01:00 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:30 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2019-01-22 08:45 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 06:11 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Etymology of: " This website is borked ". owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-22 14:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Amanda KoXXX <iscariot694me@simplivr4.org> - 2019-01-21 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:19 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 05:41 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-22 13:48 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:15 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:35 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:37 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 16:35 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-22 07:41 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-22 14:38 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-23 10:04 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-23 12:16 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-23 11:29 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-23 18:36 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 21:42 +0000
                                                                                            No one wants to be banished to the woods. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-17 14:05 -0800
                                                                                              Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 04:24 +0000
                                                                                                Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 20:50 -0800
                                                                                                Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-18 09:16 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-17 14:25 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 15:41 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-17 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-18 05:05 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 05:26 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-18 13:50 +0000
                                                                      Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 22:53 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:00 -0800
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:04 -0700
                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 06:57 -0600
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 05:04 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:54 -0800
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 09:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:22 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 06:45 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:04 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 07:57 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:05 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-14 08:29 -0800
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:37 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 08:52 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 16:00 +0100
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:04 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 14:12 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 22:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:04 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:10 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 16:47 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:15 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:56 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:14 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:11 -0500
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 09:35 -0600
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:23 -0800
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:04 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:06 -0600
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:11 -0500
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:44 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship pothead <stonersimpleasthat@gmail.org> - 2019-01-16 01:11 +0000
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 17:30 -0800
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 01:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-16 05:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 21:40 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:07 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:49 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:07 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:41 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:19 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:37 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 09:44 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 08:03 -0800
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 10:19 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:43 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:41 +0000
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:24 -0500
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:24 -0600
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:58 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:33 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 00:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:16 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:23 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 05:32 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:14 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 17:11 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 07:22 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 08:58 -0500
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 08:18 -0600
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 06:45 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:33 -0500
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:35 -0800
                                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 09:37 -0600
                                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 08:53 -0800
                                                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 10:13 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 07:07 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 09:30 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 11:19 -0800
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 16:42 -0500
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 15:36 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 19:23 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:45 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 20:08 -0700
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 20:41 -0800
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 17:12 -0700
                                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 00:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 10:33 -0600
                                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 13:08 -0500
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:29 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 10:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 13:06 -0800
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-17 07:01 -0700
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-16 06:50 -0600
                                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-16 09:16 -0500
                                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 06:48 -0800
                                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:37 -0600
                                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-15 17:46 -0500
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 12:58 -0800
                                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:44 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 16:29 -0700
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 15:50 -0800
                                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 06:40 -0800
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-12 12:45 -0700
                                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 12:55 -0800
                                            To properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 06:57 -0800
                                              Re: To properly document it, you'd need a better wall, with cameras. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:51 -0500
                                        See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-14 06:23 -0800
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 06:45 -0800
                                            Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-14 16:59 +0000
                                              Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 10:16 -0800
                                              Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. PP <email2@lizards8912m.org> - 2019-01-14 21:37 +0000
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-14 11:01 -0500
                                          Re: See no vice, hear no corruption, speak no evil. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 17:38 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:37 -0700
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:44 -0700
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:09 -0500
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 11:23 -0600
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:46 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:16 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 10:26 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:02 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:47 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-09 16:02 +0000
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:24 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-09 10:57 -0600
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:46 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:51 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:07 -0500
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:54 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:00 -0700
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 08:07 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 07:49 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:07 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:51 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:02 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 12:04 -0500
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 19:55 -0700
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-10 09:55 -0500
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 07:20 -0800
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-10 16:29 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 16:34 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:33 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 15:40 +0000
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 09:48 -0600
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 16:01 +0000
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-11 10:15 -0600
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-11 17:49 +0000
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 17:12 -0700
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 16:22 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 16:38 -0800
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0500
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2019-01-12 11:12 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:53 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:32 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 02:33 +0000
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 18:57 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-13 08:51 -0500
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 16:06 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:44 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:27 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 13:04 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 13:38 -0800
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 16:51 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 16:47 -0800
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:41 -0800
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-13 12:47 -0500
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 10:32 -0800
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 18:57 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:40 -0700
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-01-13 19:01 +0000
                                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 12:45 -0700
                                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 14:56 -0800
                                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 00:53 -0800
                                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 07:25 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 08:17 -0800
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-11 12:14 -0500
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 10:07 -0800
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 13:03 -0700
                    Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-12 13:40 -0500
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 12:28 -0800
                      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 16:24 -0500
                        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:32 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:48 -0800
                          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-12 18:24 -0500
                            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-13 00:42 +0000
                              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 17:09 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 17:20 -0700
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 12:00 -0500
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-10 11:32 -0600
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-10 13:32 -0500
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:40 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 14:21 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:35 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:51 -0700
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 15:23 -0800
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2019-01-11 05:34 -0500
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 03:20 -0800
                Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-11 08:26 -0700
                  Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 07:46 -0800
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 14:22 -0700
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 08:36 -0800
      Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-09 20:26 +0000
        Re: Serbia is again dictatorship "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-01-09 21:11 +0000
          Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-01-09 21:14 +0000
            Re: Serbia is again dictatorship silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2019-01-09 16:31 -0500
              Re: Serbia is again dictatorship Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-10 09:03 -0700
    Fake Snit News Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 14:32 -0800

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#485894 — Re: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-24 05:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Illegal immigrants are welcomed here.
Message-ID<gasvnhFt531U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#485800
Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:04:44 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
> <...>
> 
>> Statistically most studies find illegal immigrant engage in fewer 
>> violent crimes. The biggest threat are right wing white males.
> 
> Please to be posting proof of your virulent bigotry.
> 

What?

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#484790

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<p12sazx08b083ta.h3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#484781
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 11:16:48 AM UTC-5, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:10:19 PM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
>> >> > On 2019-01-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >> > > -hh wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
>> >> > >> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
>> >> > >> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
>> >> > >> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
>> >> > >> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
>> >> > >> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
>> >> > >> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
>> >> > > renting it or not.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Logic is not one of "-hh's" strong suits, is it?
>> >> 
>> >> Speaking of logic RonB ... you should have thought things through before
>> >> trying to sling an insult.
>> >> 
>> >> Because as owl points out, the landlord pays property tax regardless of occupancy,
>> > 
>> > If you acknowledge that, I'm wondering why you worded your 
>> > statement the way you did:
>> > 
>> > "For example, if they're not homeless but paying rent, then that
>> > landlord is making property tax payments which go through the 
>> > city to the school system..."
>> > 
>> > Owl's point appears valid to me <shrug>.
>> > 
>> >> which means that the revenue coming in from taxes stays the 
>> >> same while the city has fewer students - thus lower costs.
>> > 
>> > But that's not how it works in the long run.
>> > 
>> >> That's no decrease in revenue, with lower payments out.
>> > 
>> > For a period of time, sure.
> 
> Because a landlord without any tenants will go out of business.
> 
>> >> So then, just how does owl's observation make a city's
>> >> fiscal situation worse than if the unit had been occupied? 
>> > 
>> > Only if you look at a slice of (uncorrected) time does the 
>> > asking of this question make sense, In fact, you already 
>> > provided the reason:
>> > 
>> > "the local government didn't set their property tax rates 
>> > correctly vs the demand."
>> 
>> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
> 
> It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
> still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
> 

How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?


> The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
> time, there's lower demand of city services.  
> 

How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
 

> 
>> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
>> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
>> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
> 
> In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
> the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
> allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
> there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
> have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
> the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
> the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> 

Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.


>> Regardless, their kids are going to school and straining
>> those resources. 
> 
> They may go to school, but that's not a guaranteed outcome
> that resources will be strained. 
> 

https://laist.com/2019/01/16/the_class_size_conundrum_at_the_heart_of_lausds_teachers_strike.php

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#484792 — No one wants to be banished to the woods.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-17 14:05 -0800
SubjectNo one wants to be banished to the woods.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.17--2.05pm.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#484790
Owl replied:
> > lower income wages have lagged vs  REAL  expenses for the past 30 years;
> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...
> > precisely what the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> 
> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.

People like living in the city, especially if they don't need a car;
no one wants to be banished to the woods.

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#484825 — Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods.

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-18 04:24 +0000
SubjectRe: No one wants to be banished to the woods.
Message-ID<q1rke2$s81$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#484792
On 2019-01-17, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
> Owl replied:
>> > lower income wages have lagged vs  REAL  expenses for the past 30 years;
>> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...
>> > precisely what the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
>> 
>> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
>> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
>> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
>
> People like living in the city, especially if they don't need a car;
> no one wants to be banished to the woods.

Really? I HATE living in the city. Give me the woods any day.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#484828 — Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 20:50 -0800
SubjectRe: No one wants to be banished to the woods.
Message-ID<0908ffde-b06b-4d4d-9ca4-824db301e4f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484825
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 9:24:36 PM UTC-7, RonB wrote:
> On 2019-01-17, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
> > Owl replied:
> >> > lower income wages have lagged vs  REAL  expenses for the past 30 years;
> >> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...
> >> > precisely what the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> >> 
> >> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> >> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> >> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
> >
> > People like living in the city, especially if they don't need a car;
> > no one wants to be banished to the woods.
> 
> Really? I HATE living in the city. Give me the woods any day.
> 
> -- 
> The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.



Oh goodness, that is just tons of hooey. Scrivener's update system failed over and over again. Why the task to produce a screencast via usenet in a server system? No matter, Klaus Schadenfreude didn't initially list this as part of his never ending expansion of 'criteria'. Frankly I do not really care. 

Are you being like Klaus Schadenfreude on purpose? Time to blame Klaus Schadenfreude! I've worked in the retail field for nearly 40 years. I've worked with multibillion corporations working with the pharmaceutical industry and green technology industries. Never was I at any point told not to offer any OS we wanted. We sold OS/2, Ultix, Blackberry, and so on in addition to Microsoft OSs very successfully. 

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#484870 — Re: No one wants to be banished to the woods.

Fromsilverslimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2019-01-18 09:16 -0500
SubjectRe: No one wants to be banished to the woods.
Message-ID<dtn34ehcsavfahuj7anmch1rambbno79cl@4ax.com>
In reply to#484825
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:24:34 -0000 (UTC), RonB
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2019-01-17, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>> Owl replied:
>>> > lower income wages have lagged vs  REAL  expenses for the past 30 years;
>>> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...
>>> > precisely what the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
>>> 
>>> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
>>> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
>>> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
>>
>> People like living in the city, especially if they don't need a car;
>> no one wants to be banished to the woods.
>
>Really? I HATE living in the city. Give me the woods any day.

I recently moved to the city and I feel the same way. I already miss
the suburbs and the greenery. Montreal is mostly concrete and it
sucks.

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#484794

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-17 14:25 -0800
Message-ID<4f1931c5-856a-4bff-896e-a97a266ac318@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484790
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 11:16:48 AM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 9:10:19 PM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
> >> >> > On 2019-01-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> > > -hh wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> You've failed to demonstrate your claim.  For example, if they're not
> >> >> > >> homeless but paying rent, then that landlord is making property tax 
> >> >> > >> payments which go through the city to the school system, so all you're
> >> >> > >> doing here is noting that the local government didn't set their property
> >> >> > >> tax rates correctly vs the demand.  Now please explain to us just how
> >> >> > >> this is supposedly all pushed back to the people who are paying for 
> >> >> > >> those services through their rent?  Are they illegal squatters?  
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Property tax gets paid by the owner of the property whether anybody is
> >> >> > > renting it or not.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Logic is not one of "-hh's" strong suits, is it?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Speaking of logic RonB ... you should have thought things through before
> >> >> trying to sling an insult.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Because as owl points out, the landlord pays property tax regardless of occupancy,
> >> > 
> >> > If you acknowledge that, I'm wondering why you worded your 
> >> > statement the way you did:
> >> > 
> >> > "For example, if they're not homeless but paying rent, then that
> >> > landlord is making property tax payments which go through the 
> >> > city to the school system..."
> >> > 
> >> > Owl's point appears valid to me <shrug>.
> >> > 
> >> >> which means that the revenue coming in from taxes stays the 
> >> >> same while the city has fewer students - thus lower costs.
> >> > 
> >> > But that's not how it works in the long run.
> >> > 
> >> >> That's no decrease in revenue, with lower payments out.
> >> > 
> >> > For a period of time, sure.
> > 
> > Because a landlord without any tenants will go out of business.
> > 
> >> >> So then, just how does owl's observation make a city's
> >> >> fiscal situation worse than if the unit had been occupied? 
> >> > 
> >> > Only if you look at a slice of (uncorrected) time does the 
> >> > asking of this question make sense, In fact, you already 
> >> > provided the reason:
> >> > 
> >> > "the local government didn't set their property tax rates 
> >> > correctly vs the demand."
> >> 
> >> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
> > 
> > It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
> > still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
> 
> How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?

No one living in that property to add to the local demand
for municipal services.  

 
> > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
> > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
> > 
> 
> How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
> city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.

If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.
 
> >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
> >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
> >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
> > 
> > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
> > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
> > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
> > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
> > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
> > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> > 
> 
> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.

The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.

And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
 
 
> >> Regardless, their kids are going to school and straining
> >> those resources. 
> > 
> > They may go to school, but that's not a guaranteed outcome
> > that resources will be strained. 
> > 
> 
> https://laist.com/2019/01/16/the_class_size_conundrum_at_the_heart_of_lausds_teachers_strike.php

As I said, LA's been messed up for years.  I'm up on some of it, as
an old friend had lived out there for a couple of decades; they
just moved out towards Ontario in 2018.  

The fun part to tease out is if the actual plan has been to hide 
funds so that on paper it says that there's chronic underfunding 
and insolvency so as to enable a private for-profit system to 
"rescue" the damsel district in so-called distress.


-hh

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#484800

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-17 15:41 -0800
Message-ID<9b21592d-b52e-44c0-a2b0-d50c61fbd3bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484794
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:26:00 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

> > > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
> > > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
> > > 
> > 
> > How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
> > city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
> 
> If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.

The price of "city services" never goes up as a result of yet
another crack den?  On what planet? And why did you pivot
so quickly from "demand of city services" to vacancy, leaving
the 'ramification' topic *you* just brought up in the dust? WTF?
 
> > >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
> > >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
> > >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
> > > 
> > > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
> > > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
> > > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
> > > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
> > > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
> > > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
> > > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> > > 
> > 
> > Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> > apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> > that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
> 
> The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.

Boom, boom boom... another 'whataboutism' bites the dust... 

> And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
> as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
> aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
>  
>  
> > >> Regardless, their kids are going to school and straining
> > >> those resources. 
> > > 
> > > They may go to school, but that's not a guaranteed outcome
> > > that resources will be strained. 
> > > 
> > 
> > https://laist.com/2019/01/16/the_class_size_conundrum_at_the_heart_of_lausds_teachers_strike.php
> 
> As I said, LA's been messed up for years.  I'm up on some of it, as
> an old friend had lived out there for a couple of decades; they
> just moved out towards Ontario in 2018.  

Did your friend happen to mention that it's one of the largest 
concentrations of illegals in the country? Lemme guess, you
have stats to prove that there is not only zero impact but the
problem could be cut in half by doubling the number of illegals? ;)

> The fun part to tease out is if the actual plan has been to hide 
> funds so that on paper it says that there's chronic underfunding 
> and insolvency so as to enable a private for-profit system to 
> "rescue" the damsel district in so-called distress.

You're aware that this is not quite the Repub vs. Dem issue as 
it's often been sold, right, IOW, you know it's Dem against Dem?

What it all boils down to is the stronghold of 'Dem Utopia' has 
"been messed up for years"... "LA has had fiscal management 
problems for over a decade"... but we have no real problems. 
You keep telling us that...

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#484801

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-17 23:54 +0000
Message-ID<ix8003trfa.gf@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#484794
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:

>> >> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
>> > 
>> > It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
>> > still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
>> 
>> How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?
> 
> No one living in that property to add to the local demand
> for municipal services.  
> 

The question was regarding the "fewer students" claim.


>  
>> > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
>> > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
>> > 
>> 
>> How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
>> city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
> 
> If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.
>  

And if there's not?  The property will still get trash pickup,
police response to breakins, possibly utilities depending on the
owner's plan.


>> >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
>> >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
>> >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
>> > 
>> > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
>> > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
>> > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
>> > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
>> > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
>> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
>> > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
>> > 
>> 
>> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
>> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
>> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
> 
> The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.
> 

Which is one of the reasons college towns are expensive places live.
Should every city now suffer the same burden of rents driven to the
stratosphere in order to house illegals?


> And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
> as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
> aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
>  

Other than the displacement of families who otherwise might afford
a lower rent commensurate with a lower demand.

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#484861

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2019-01-18 05:05 -0800
Message-ID<133e7dc8-dbc7-4c03-86ef-7fb29f8d6240@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484801
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> 
> >> >> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
> >> > 
> >> > It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
> >> > still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
> >> 
> >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?
> > 
> > No one living in that property to add to the local demand
> > for municipal services.  
> 
> The question was regarding the "fewer students" claim.

Yes, and this is basic Set Theory:  for any property, the subset of occupants 
who are also students cannot exceed the total number of occupants.  And 
when a property is vacant, the total number of occupants is zero.  Therefore, 
the number of candidate students cannot exceed zero.


> >> > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
> >> > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
> >> city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
> > 
> > If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.
> >  
> 
> And if there's not? 

Then the landlord has tenants to pay rent ...

> The property will still get trash pickup,
> police response to breakins, possibly utilities depending on the
> owner's plan.

... and the landlord will have a revenue stream by which to pay his property
taxes to the municipality for said services.  



> >> >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
> >> >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
> >> >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
> >> > 
> >> > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
> >> > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
> >> > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
> >> > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
> >> > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
> >> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
> >> > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> >> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> >> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
> > 
> > The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.
> 
> Which is one of the reasons college towns are expensive places live.

That really depends on the particulars of the city/town, etc.  Are there
any actual research studies which substantiate your assertion that 
college towns are significantly more expensive due to only this one
variable than non-college towns for housing costs?   


> Should every city now suffer the same burden of rents driven to the
> stratosphere in order to house illegals?

Well, if society has been accepting this as your claimed increase in housing 
costs when the tenants are college students, what's really the difference?
Is it that college students have lower demand on municipal services, despite
them obviously invoking more police responses from loud Frat Parties?  


> > And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
> > as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
> > aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
> 
> Other than the displacement of families who otherwise might afford
> a lower rent commensurate with a lower demand.

But since a US Citizen family is also going to have children and the landlord
has essentially the same property tax payments to make to the municipality,
when you follow the money, just how does it make any difference if the 
schoolchild has a brown illegal parent versus a white legal parent? 

And when its an apartment of young men workers, the same is true for the 
apartment of college kids:  neither has any kids in it attending school, so
from the perspective of the municipality setting property tax policy, just how 
does the "who" really make any difference?   If local zoning says that 5+ 
non-related individuals may not co-inhabit, equal application under the law
would say that the policy should be applied impartially with no biases. 
 

-hh

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#484864

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-18 05:26 -0800
Message-ID<88ff29e1-8709-4b70-94c2-1e000d0b70a8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484861
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 6:05:23 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> > -hh wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
> > 
> > >> >> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
> > >> > 
> > >> > It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
> > >> > still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
> > >> 
> > >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?
> > > 
> > > No one living in that property to add to the local demand
> > > for municipal services.  
> > 
> > The question was regarding the "fewer students" claim.
> 
> Yes, and this is basic Set Theory:  for any property, the subset of occupants 
> who are also students cannot exceed the total number of occupants.  And 
> when a property is vacant, the total number of occupants is zero.  Therefore, 
> the number of candidate students cannot exceed zero.
> 
> 
> > >> > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
> > >> > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
> > >> > 
> > >> 
> > >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
> > >> city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
> > > 
> > > If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.
> > >  
> > 
> > And if there's not? 
> 
> Then the landlord has tenants to pay rent ...
> 
> > The property will still get trash pickup,
> > police response to breakins, possibly utilities depending on the
> > owner's plan.
> 
> ... and the landlord will have a revenue stream by which to pay his property
> taxes to the municipality for said services.  
> 
> 
> 
> > >> >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
> > >> >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
> > >> >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
> > >> > 
> > >> > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
> > >> > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
> > >> > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
> > >> > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
> > >> > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
> > >> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
> > >> > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
> > >> > 
> > >> 
> > >> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
> > >> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
> > >> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
> > > 
> > > The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.
> > 
> > Which is one of the reasons college towns are expensive places live.
> 
> That really depends on the particulars of the city/town, etc.  Are there
> any actual research studies which substantiate your assertion that 
> college towns are significantly more expensive due to only this one
> variable than non-college towns for housing costs?   
> 
> 
> > Should every city now suffer the same burden of rents driven to the
> > stratosphere in order to house illegals?
> 
> Well, if society has been accepting this as your claimed increase in housing 
> costs when the tenants are college students, what's really the difference?
> Is it that college students have lower demand on municipal services, despite
> them obviously invoking more police responses from loud Frat Parties?  
> 
> 
> > > And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
> > > as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
> > > aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
> > 
> > Other than the displacement of families who otherwise might afford
> > a lower rent commensurate with a lower demand.
> 
> But since a US Citizen family is also going to have children and the landlord
> has essentially the same property tax payments to make to the municipality,
> when you follow the money, just how does it make any difference if the 
> schoolchild has a brown illegal parent versus a white legal parent? 
> 
> And when its an apartment of young men workers, the same is true for the 
> apartment of college kids:  neither has any kids in it attending school, so
> from the perspective of the municipality setting property tax policy, just how 
> does the "who" really make any difference?   If local zoning says that 5+ 
> non-related individuals may not co-inhabit, equal application under the law
> would say that the policy should be applied impartially with no biases. 
>  
> 
> -hh



For most I would simply say it is suspicious. However, given that it's Rudy Canoza I would drop that doubt and go straight to 'bullshit' because that's most of what Rudy Canoza does. No need to find evidence before accusing Rudy Canoza of lying. All that matters is that Rudy Canoza gets to broadcast his prank call and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Just Wondering is an unwitting victim on the other end of the phone is what's funny. 

I shan't ask Rudy Canoza how any part of Just Wondering's body tastes no matter how often Rudy Canoza kisses it. It was Rudy Canoza who flooded Just Wondering's site millions of times and refused to admit it. 

He makes false accusation to an entire group of people who have nothing to do with anything, but that's a narcissist for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor. 

ChromeOS is based on Linux. No matter what the trolls say. 

--
Top Six Ways Rudy Canoza Trolls!!
https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/6m_7Z7rQ6Hg
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http://prescottcomputerguy.com
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#484866

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2019-01-18 13:50 +0000
Message-ID<ab80083tag.uy3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#484861
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>> > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-5, owl wrote:
>> 
>> >> >> I'd like to know where the "fewer students" comes into play.  
>> >> > 
>> >> > It was introduced when you (owl) noted that the landlord would
>> >> > still have to pay property taxes even when his unit isn't occupied.
>> >> 
>> >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to fewer students?
>> > 
>> > No one living in that property to add to the local demand
>> > for municipal services.  
>> 
>> The question was regarding the "fewer students" claim.
> 
> Yes, and this is basic Set Theory:  for any property, the subset of occupants 
> who are also students cannot exceed the total number of occupants.  And 
> when a property is vacant, the total number of occupants is zero.  Therefore, 
> the number of candidate students cannot exceed zero.
> 

The set is larger than the set of "occupants."  The homeless were mentioned
earlier, and a family with students which has been displaced by a gaggle
of carpenters leads to no decrease in the number of students. 


> 
>> >> > The ramifications of that empty unit is that for that point in
>> >> > time, there's lower demand of city services.  
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> How does some rental property being vacant translate to lower demand of
>> >> city services?  Maybe it gets higher, with squatters opening a crack den.
>> > 
>> > If there's squatters, then it isn't vacant.
>> >  
>> 
>> And if there's not? 
> 
> Then the landlord has tenants to pay rent ...
> 

Once again, you miss the forest.  Vacancy can mean squatters or not,
and a displacement of previous tenants who can no longer afford the
rising rent the owner now demands does not necessarily translate into
a lower demand for services.  There may be squatters, or not, but the
demand for city services will not have decreased by forcing a family
onto the streets; and as mentioned, squatters might increase the demand.


>> The property will still get trash pickup,
>> police response to breakins, possibly utilities depending on the
>> owner's plan.
> 
> ... and the landlord will have a revenue stream by which to pay his property
> taxes to the municipality for said services.  
> 

He will pay either way.  


> 
> 
>> >> >> Either the illegal aliens are homeless themselves or else they
>> >> >> are contributing to homelessness by increasing demand for 
>> >> >> housing -- and thereby driving up rents.  
>> >> > 
>> >> > In a simplistic "supply & demand" view, sure, but in reality, 
>> >> > the rents only are able to increase when the market conditions 
>> >> > allow, which is more than merely supply vs demand.  For example,
>> >> > there also needs to be an ability to pay, and lower income wages
>> >> > have lagged vs real expenses for the past 30 years.  As such,
>> >> > the consumer will seek out other alternatives...precisely what
>> >> > the 'Chained CPI' is all about.  
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Piling "families" of 12, half of whom are working age males, into
>> >> apartments/houses designed for a family of four, is an economic strategy
>> >> that enables illegals to "afford" the unaffordable, even at modest wages.
>> > 
>> > The same has also enabled college students for the past 40 years.
>> 
>> Which is one of the reasons college towns are expensive places live.
            ^^^^^^
> 
> That really depends on the particulars of the city/town, etc.  Are there
> any actual research studies which substantiate your assertion that 
> college towns are significantly more expensive due to only this one
> variable than non-college towns for housing costs?   
> 

"one of" vs. "only."  Student housing demand is one.  Prestige might
be another.  Going to home games still another.


> 
>> Should every city now suffer the same burden of rents driven to the
>> stratosphere in order to house illegals?
> 
> Well, if society has been accepting this as your claimed increase in housing 
> costs when the tenants are college students, what's really the difference?

Because in the case of college students the town will have grown gradually
over time with the school population, which would have been expected and
planned for, but might not be able to handle a relatively sudden influx
of illegals caused by the whims of a city council that has decided to
embrace a sanctuary-city policy.


> Is it that college students have lower demand on municipal services, despite
> them obviously invoking more police responses from loud Frat Parties?  
> 
> 
>> > And for the context of children who may be consuming public schools 
>> > as a municipal service, the incremental addition of persons who 
>> > aren't attending the public school doesn't really matter too much.   
>> 
>> Other than the displacement of families who otherwise might afford
>> a lower rent commensurate with a lower demand.
> 
> But since a US Citizen family is also going to have children and the landlord
> has essentially the same property tax payments to make to the municipality,
> when you follow the money, just how does it make any difference if the 
> schoolchild has a brown illegal parent versus a white legal parent? 
> 

Because the illegal students were not planned for, and overcrowding is
the result.

> And when its an apartment of young men workers, the same is true for the 
> apartment of college kids:  neither has any kids in it attending school, so
> from the perspective of the municipality setting property tax policy, just how 
> does the "who" really make any difference?   If local zoning says that 5+ 
> non-related individuals may not co-inhabit, equal application under the law
> would say that the policy should be applied impartially with no biases. 
>  

Because, as described above, the college student population would have
been anticipated, and would not lead to families being tossed onto the
streets.
 

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#484505 — Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2019-01-14 22:53 -0800
SubjectDemocrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.14--10.53pm.Seattle.2019>
In reply to#484417
If you have any kind of intelligence, and/or resources,
it's not hard to move people and products across the U.S. border.

A retired ISIS fighter can fly to Ecuador,
make his way up to the U.S. border, with help, and cross it.

Hugh Huntzinger asks for numbers, statistics; meanwhile, 
Democrats are in the Caribbean, asking for margaritas.

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#484570

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-15 08:00 -0800
Message-ID<27069e45-b50f-47a1-9f47-a307c2ad29ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484392
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

> Well, when Trump's Golf Course got caught providing the fake IDs,
> its pretty hard to deny that US Corporations are complicit.  
> But you've tried to do so anyway.

I'm assuming you meant 'are not' complicit... but where did I
argue they're never complicit? In any event, the article in the
NY Times, which I believe may have been who brought the info 
to light, states of Trump (or his organization): 

"There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization 
executives knew of their immigration status."

Doesn't mean he was unaware but being 'suspected' of
knowing isn't the same as knowing. Furthermore...

"Because of the β€œoutstanding” support she has provided during 
Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate 
from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with 
her name."

I doubt anyone, even Trump, would be so stupid as to knowingly 
give such  a high profile award to an illegal alien.  At the same 
time, this underscores how 'normalized' it has become... to me, 
that's one of the largest issues surrounding illegal immigration. 
It enables you to feel comfortable claiming that the currently 
lessened flow somehow means it doesn't need to be dealt with 
now, at least, not by constructing a wall. Being that you've made 
it clear you're against any kind of barrier, one would  expect the 
stance you're taking... which is why you and I will never agree.
Not that I like the idea but I see the need for a better 
fence/wall/barrier in more areas *along* with a functioning
'digital wall'. You can't do *far* less than you're capable of and
claim you're doing what you can in the way of security (which
is job #1 of the federal gov't).

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#484755

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-17 07:04 -0700
Message-ID<gabgbkF352qU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#484570
On 1/15/19 9:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> 
>> Well, when Trump's Golf Course got caught providing the fake IDs,
>> its pretty hard to deny that US Corporations are complicit.
>> But you've tried to do so anyway.
> 
> I'm assuming you meant 'are not' complicit... but where did I
> argue they're never complicit? In any event, the article in the
> NY Times, which I believe may have been who brought the info
> to light, states of Trump (or his organization):
> 
> "There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization
> executives knew of their immigration status."
> 
> Doesn't mean he was unaware but being 'suspected' of
> knowing isn't the same as knowing. Furthermore...
> 
> "Because of the β€œoutstanding” support she has provided during
> Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate
> from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with
> her name."
> 
> I doubt anyone, even Trump, would be so stupid as to knowingly
> give such  a high profile award to an illegal alien.  At the same
> time, this underscores how 'normalized' it has become... to me,
> that's one of the largest issues surrounding illegal immigration.
> It enables you to feel comfortable claiming that the currently
> lessened flow somehow means it doesn't need to be dealt with
> now, at least, not by constructing a wall. Being that you've made
> it clear you're against any kind of barrier, one would  expect the
> stance you're taking... which is why you and I will never agree.
> Not that I like the idea but I see the need for a better
> fence/wall/barrier in more areas *along* with a functioning
> 'digital wall'. You can't do *far* less than you're capable of and
> claim you're doing what you can in the way of security (which
> is job #1 of the federal gov't).
> 

Ah, those such as Trump who hire illegal immigrants are not at fault for 
their actions... they are just out to make a buck.

Give me a break. Your worship of the wealthy is showing again.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#484345

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2019-01-14 06:57 -0600
Message-ID<bj1p3eplnp0upc9npe711o1q0m9lbmj8du@4ax.com>
In reply to#483970
owl wrote:

> I believe I read recently that 70% of illegal aliens are
>on government assistance.

OMG   This, *again*?

"Minimum-wage workers require 'some kind of government assistance' to
survive.  Film at 11:00."

Sheesh!

-- 
"the poorest of the poor would rather steal Windows than use legal
Linux."  -  some dumb fsck

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#484346

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-14 05:04 -0800
Message-ID<80008d32-3074-4bdb-b2b1-99404e569e51@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484345
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 5:57:10 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
> > I believe I read recently that 70% of illegal aliens are
> >on government assistance.
> 
> OMG   This, *again*?
> 
> "Minimum-wage workers require 'some kind of government assistance' to
> survive.  Film at 11:00."
> 
> Sheesh!
> 
> -- 
> "the poorest of the poor would rather steal Windows than use legal
> Linux."  -  some dumb fsck



The herd members value the lowest common denominator instead of choice. You are as clever as a gibber monkey. Generally, Klaus Schadenfreude would not call a claim like Vallor's posts a delusion until you negate it and he responds with the distraction knowing he can't prove it. Do you have a CCNA certification? I'm guessing, after kill filtering all the trolling, it is principally just Vallor authoring almost all of the trollcrap. Yes. And both in every way mentally ill screwballs. 

With no reason at all, as is usual for Vallor. 



--
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#484360

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-14 06:54 -0800
Message-ID<40f42b64-a59c-4b55-be2b-bf83ec748345@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484346
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:04:20 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 5:57:10 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote:
> > owl wrote:
> > 
> > > I believe I read recently that 70% of illegal aliens are
> > >on government assistance.
> > 
> > OMG   This, *again*?
> > 
> > "Minimum-wage workers require 'some kind of government assistance' to
> > survive.  Film at 11:00."
> > 
> > Sheesh!
> > 
> > -- 
> > "the poorest of the poor would rather steal Windows than use legal
> > Linux."  -  some dumb fsck
> 
> 
> 
> The herd members value the lowest common denominator instead of choice. You are as clever as a gibber monkey. Generally, Klaus Schadenfreude would not call a claim like Vallor's posts a delusion until you negate it and he responds with the distraction knowing he can't prove it. Do you have a CCNA certification? I'm guessing, after kill filtering all the trolling, it is principally just Vallor authoring almost all of the trollcrap. Yes. And both in every way mentally ill screwballs. 
> 
> With no reason at all, as is usual for Vallor. 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Eight things to never feed your dog
> http://www.5z8.info/backyard-fireworks-disasters_t7w7pu_bombbuilding
> Jonas Eklundh Communication AB



Dropping support for DOS programs is needed for progress. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh can not help but grasp everyone knows he is just lying! 

Effectively everything Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh says about anyone is false. Who isn't aware of this by now? 

That lame duck update system failed over and over again. I'm not going to play like bigdog did not save my bacon on my network and I am thankful for his guidance. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh has my posts to follow and should start to at least pretend he is no longer complete ignorant from this day forward ;) In fact Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's lies were quoted time and time again. So naturally I regret doing a favor for Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh. While I am sure he liked it, I've not helped the situation at all. These morons get their jollies out of eliciting annoyed responses to their flooding, which is the very definition of a troll. 

Protected code is makes it harder to work on a project. 

-- 
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"
Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

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#484352

Fromsilverslimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2019-01-14 09:01 -0500
Message-ID<se5p3el3fjemcekcg6qioc1lcfbivmo74g@4ax.com>
In reply to#484345
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 06:57:07 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>owl wrote:
>
>> I believe I read recently that 70% of illegal aliens are
>>on government assistance.
>
>OMG   This, *again*?
>
>"Minimum-wage workers require 'some kind of government assistance' to
>survive.  Film at 11:00."
>
>Sheesh!

*they* *are* *not* *legal* and therefore never paid into the system
from which they are getting sustenance. 

Do you feed the many rats who invade your house?

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#484354

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-14 06:22 -0800
Message-ID<db6f6108-602d-4c34-a77c-6b531349431d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#484352
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 7:01:06 AM UTC-7, silverslimer wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 06:57:07 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> >owl wrote:
> >
> >> I believe I read recently that 70% of illegal aliens are
> >>on government assistance.
> >
> >OMG   This, *again*?
> >
> >"Minimum-wage workers require 'some kind of government assistance' to
> >survive.  Film at 11:00."
> >
> >Sheesh!
> 
> *they* *are* *not* *legal* and therefore never paid into the system
> from which they are getting sustenance. 
> 
> Do you feed the many rats who invade your house?



You guys can only think from the viewpoint of a sociopath. 

I am an obsessed supporter of Debian, because that's where all the compelling usability improvements are happening. 

So what is Takuya Saitoh's poison for the flooding nonsense? Access? That is the only tool he knows, or admits to. He must be programming it to produce these absurd "flooding" threads. Educated theory, Takuya Saitoh took a PGP program that he stole and pretended was his... he's feeding it data from the program, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then editing those using value iteration and then he manually posts them because his insomnia enables him to do that close to endlessly. He is as incompetent as Takuya Saitoh. Already moved on from that. Keep up! 

--
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https://youtu.be/UkAyrfOZaXc
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