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Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it.

Started bySales <sales@drpepper.com>
First post2024-12-07 15:08 -0800
Last post2024-12-09 10:26 -0600
Articles 20 on this page of 362 — 13 participants

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  Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Sales <sales@drpepper.com> - 2024-12-07 15:08 -0800
    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:47 -0500
      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:51 -0800
        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:12 -0500
          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:46 -0800
            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:59 -0500
              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:04 -0800
                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:18 -0500
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:27 -0800
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:33 -0500
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 21:01 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 18:13 -0800
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 20:08 -0800
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 23:24 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 -0800
                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 08:15 -0500
                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 10:37 -0800
                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:37 -0500
                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 15:34 -0800
                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 18:57 -0500
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:13 -0800
                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:25 -0800
                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:52 -0800
                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 17:14 -0800
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 07:38 -0500
                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 08:23 -0500
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:40 -0600
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:05 -0500
                                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:13 -0600
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:39 -0800
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                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 11:28 -0500
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                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:39 -0600
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:37 -0600
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 00:26 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 -0800
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:41 -0600
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:34 -0600
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:30 -0600
              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 21:14 -0500
                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 22:45 -0500
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-08 03:54 +0000
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 07:42 -0500
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 08:21 -0500
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 10:39 -0800
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:41 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 15:32 -0800
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 18:59 -0500
                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:24 -0800
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:53 -0800
                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:06 -0500
                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 17:16 -0800
                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:20 -0500
                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 18:02 -0800
                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 10:31 -0500
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:44 -0800
                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:09 -0500
                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:31 -0500
                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:52 -0500
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 12:28 -0800
                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 15:49 -0500
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 10:05 -0500
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                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 13:53 -0500
                                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 13:06 -0600
                                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-10 11:19 -0800
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                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-11 13:26 -0600
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                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-11 20:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Howie Feltersnatch <a@apple.sux> - 2024-12-14 20:53 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 12:06 -0800
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                                                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-10 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-11 00:27 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Howie Feltersnatch <a@apple.sux> - 2024-12-14 20:18 +0100
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                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 14:45 -0500
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:47 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 17:34 -0500
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                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:04 -0500
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                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:48 -0500
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                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 03:29 -0500
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. paranoia <mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2025-01-03 22:23 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. AlphaHeater <AlphaHeater21@6959.concepte.store> - 2025-01-06 02:52 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 22:08 -0500
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#679945

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-12 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<v9qkljh4cb7q3d8klbh7mpl941elb48kg9@4ax.com>
In reply to#679892
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>> 
>Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to 
>be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...


???


>...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows 
>apps?


How are you drawing a distinction there?


>And turning to your deflections:
>
>Name such an app.


For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679950

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-12 10:44 -0800
Message-ID<vjfavb$2rvlg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679945
On 2024-12-12 09:51, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>
>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
> 
> 
> ???
> 
> 
>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>> apps?
> 
> 
> How are you drawing a distinction there?

I'm not.

YOU are.

YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not 
only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.

> 
> 
>> And turning to your deflections:
>>
>> Name such an app.
> 
> 
> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:

'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'

And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.

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#679951

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-12 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<47dmljprdi5itvkl8hf67hl90m3kadjgh3@4ax.com>
In reply to#679950
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>
>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>> 
>> ???
>> 
>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>> apps?
>> 
>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>
>I'm not.
>
>YOU are.
>
>YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not 
>only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.


I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
prefer to run..


>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>
>>> Name such an app.
>> 
>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>
>'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>
>And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.


If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679952

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-12 11:33 -0800
Message-ID<vjfdq8$2tbi5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679951
On 2024-12-12 11:22, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>
>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>
>>> ???
>>>
>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>> apps?
>>>
>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>
>> I'm not.
>>
>> YOU are.
>>
>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
> 
> 
> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
> prefer to run..

Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...

But you're continuing to ignore the point.

You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows 
software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...

...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its 
inadequacy?

> 
> 
>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>
>>>> Name such an app.
>>>
>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>
>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>
>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
> 
> 
> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.

You made a specific claim:

'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'

In what way are they "better"?

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#679956

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-12 14:49 -0500
Message-ID<premljlu4to548biuekd2g8jttlfq5dfpc@4ax.com>
In reply to#679952
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>
>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>> apps?
>>>>
>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>
>>> I'm not.
>>>
>>> YOU are.
>>>
>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>> 
>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>> prefer to run..
>
>Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...


I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.


>But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>
>You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows 
>software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>
>...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its 
>inadequacy?


Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
including running a Windows client.


>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>
>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>
>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>
>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>
>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>> 
>> 
>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>
>You made a specific claim:
>
>'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>
>In what way are they "better"?


Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
and LibreOffice.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679959

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-12 12:10 -0800
Message-ID<vjffvu$2tbi5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679956
On 2024-12-12 11:49, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>>
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not.
>>>>
>>>> YOU are.
>>>>
>>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>>>
>>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>>> prefer to run..
>>
>> Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...
> 
> 
> I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.

Proving my your own metric that Linux is inadequate.

> 
> 
>> But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>>
>> You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows
>> software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>>
>> ...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its
>> inadequacy?
> 
> 
> Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
> has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
> including running a Windows client.

And yet you declared it was proof of macOS's inadequacy...

...while not saying the same about Linux.

> 
> 
>>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>>
>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>
>>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>>
>> You made a specific claim:
>>
>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>
>> In what way are they "better"?
> 
> 
> Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
> available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
> software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
> that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
> and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
> and LibreOffice.
This wasn't about what you LIKE, doofus.

This was about your declaration that:

'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'

Now, I don't know whether you were just referring to WiNE vs CrossOver 
Mac, or apps in general, but for once in your miserable existence, try 
backing up a claim you've made.

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#679962

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-12 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<u0hmlj1ob22n4umpie4v526v2ked5m51pn@4ax.com>
In reply to#679959
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU are.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>>>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>>>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>>>> prefer to run..
>>>
>>> Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...
>> 
>> I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.
>
>Proving my your own metric that Linux is inadequate.


Incorrect, Intel Macs can do this too with CrossOver or even just
installing Wine.  Agent is very workable with Wine.


>>> But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>>>
>>> You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows
>>> software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>>>
>>> ...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its
>>> inadequacy?
>> 
>> 
>> Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
>> has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
>> including running a Windows client.
>
>And yet you declared it was proof of macOS's inadequacy...
>
>...while not saying the same about Linux.


Well, it's easier to use Wine than a VM of Win11 ARM.


>>>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>>
>>>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>>>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>>>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>>>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>>>
>>> You made a specific claim:
>>>
>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>
>>> In what way are they "better"?
>> 
>> Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
>> available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
>> software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
>> that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
>> and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
>> and LibreOffice.
>This wasn't about what you LIKE, doofus.
>
>This was about your declaration that:
>
>'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>
>Now, I don't know whether you were just referring to WiNE vs CrossOver 
>Mac, or apps in general, but for once in your miserable existence, try 
>backing up a claim you've made.


I actually might retract, in part, that Linux is better for a GUI IRC
client than macOS.  It's probably still technically true, but not in
the precise way I meant.  So, actually, macOS is pretty good for
Usenet and IRC support.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679965

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-12 12:27 -0800
Message-ID<vjfgvh$2tbhj$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679962
On 2024-12-12 12:20, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>>>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>>>>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>>>>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>>>>> prefer to run..
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...
>>>
>>> I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.
>>
>> Proving my your own metric that Linux is inadequate.
> 
> 
> Incorrect, Intel Macs can do this too with CrossOver or even just
> installing Wine.  Agent is very workable with Wine.

But you said that it proved macOS was inadequate, doofus.

Let me refresh your memory:

'Another note, I ran Agent and mIRC under CrossOver for Mac, in 2010.
This was due to the inadequacy of GUI apps for macOS, for Usenet and
IRC.'

But you run Windows apps under WiNE on Linux.

So how isn't Linux also inadequate?

> 
> 
>>>> But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>>>>
>>>> You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows
>>>> software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>>>>
>>>> ...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its
>>>> inadequacy?
>>>
>>>
>>> Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
>>> has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
>>> including running a Windows client.
>>
>> And yet you declared it was proof of macOS's inadequacy...
>>
>> ...while not saying the same about Linux.
> 
> 
> Well, it's easier to use Wine than a VM of Win11 ARM.

That's not the point under discussion.

Your need to use CrossOver on the Mac led you to declare Mac GUI apps 
"inadequate".

You have have that exact same need under Linux.

So explain why Linux apps aren't "inadequate", too.

> 
> 
>>>>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>>>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>>>>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>>>>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>>>>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>>>>
>>>> You made a specific claim:
>>>>
>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>
>>>> In what way are they "better"?
>>>
>>> Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
>>> available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
>>> software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
>>> that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
>>> and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
>>> and LibreOffice.
>> This wasn't about what you LIKE, doofus.
>>
>> This was about your declaration that:
>>
>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>
>> Now, I don't know whether you were just referring to WiNE vs CrossOver
>> Mac, or apps in general, but for once in your miserable existence, try
>> backing up a claim you've made.
> 
> 
> I actually might retract, in part, that Linux is better for a GUI IRC
> client than macOS.  It's probably still technically true, but not in
> the precise way I meant.  So, actually, macOS is pretty good for
> Usenet and IRC support.
Or you're just realizing you've been talking bullshit for the whole time.

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#679971

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-12 15:38 -0500
Message-ID<n7imlj5lsu5c8npe2bpio1ojqs937n7b4j@4ax.com>
In reply to#679965
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2024-12-12 12:20, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>>>>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>>>>>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>>>>>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>>>>>> prefer to run..
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...
>>>>
>>>> I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.
>>>
>>> Proving my your own metric that Linux is inadequate.
>> 
>> Incorrect, Intel Macs can do this too with CrossOver or even just
>> installing Wine.  Agent is very workable with Wine.
>
>But you said that it proved macOS was inadequate, doofus.
>
>Let me refresh your memory:
>
>'Another note, I ran Agent and mIRC under CrossOver for Mac, in 2010.
>This was due to the inadequacy of GUI apps for macOS, for Usenet and
>IRC.'
>
>But you run Windows apps under WiNE on Linux.
>
>So how isn't Linux also inadequate?
>
>>>>> But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows
>>>>> software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its
>>>>> inadequacy?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
>>>> has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
>>>> including running a Windows client.
>>>
>>> And yet you declared it was proof of macOS's inadequacy...
>>>
>>> ...while not saying the same about Linux.
>> 
>> Well, it's easier to use Wine than a VM of Win11 ARM.
>
>That's not the point under discussion.
>
>Your need to use CrossOver on the Mac led you to declare Mac GUI apps 
>"inadequate".
>
>You have have that exact same need under Linux.
>
>So explain why Linux apps aren't "inadequate", too.


Frankly, I retract the intent of my statement, if not its sheer truth.
macOS does OK, on these things.


>>>>>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>>>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>>>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>>>>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>>>>>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>>>>>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>>>>>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> You made a specific claim:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>>
>>>>> In what way are they "better"?
>>>>
>>>> Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
>>>> available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
>>>> software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
>>>> that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
>>>> and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
>>>> and LibreOffice.
>>> This wasn't about what you LIKE, doofus.
>>>
>>> This was about your declaration that:
>>>
>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>
>>> Now, I don't know whether you were just referring to WiNE vs CrossOver
>>> Mac, or apps in general, but for once in your miserable existence, try
>>> backing up a claim you've made.
>> 
>> I actually might retract, in part, that Linux is better for a GUI IRC
>> client than macOS.  It's probably still technically true, but not in
>> the precise way I meant.  So, actually, macOS is pretty good for
>> Usenet and IRC support.
>Or you're just realizing you've been talking bullshit for the whole time.


Essentially, I was, not entirely but essentially.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679816

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 13:26 -0800
Message-ID<vjd031$1noq5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679750
On 2024-12-11 11:38, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's about bragging rights again.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
>>>>> over macOS.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> You laugh but it's self-evident.  As ridiculous as Wintendo OS is, it
>>> does an amazing job of being what it is.  High-end PCs can benefit
>>> from M$'s tinkering.
>>
>> Give an example.
> 
> 
> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
> for others, but they often overlook it.

In what way is booting that a better experience than booting macOS 
Sequoia 15.1.1 on an M3 Mac?

Be specific (for once).

> 
> 
>>>>>>> They depend on
>>>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>>>
>>>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>>>
>>>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>>>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>>>
>>>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>>>> software) is available for macOS.
>>>
>>> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.
>>
>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
> 
> 
> Nothing.

So you have no actual answer.

You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done 
on a Mac.

Got it.

> 
> 
>>>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, wear it.
>>>>
>>>> Not until you define it.
>>>
>>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>>
>> That's another non-answer.
> 
> 
> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
> programmers put in.

As opposed to what?

What specifically do you not like about the Finder?

And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?

> 
> 
>>>>>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>>>>>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>>>>>> never see them anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because their Macs work that well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I support my own computer.
>>>>
>>>> Bully for you.
>>>>
>>>> Most people who run Windows cannot.
>>>>
>>>> Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...
>>>>
>>>> ...because they just work.
>>>
>>> Why don't they grow enough of a brain to teach themselves something?
>> They just use their computers, doofus.
>>
>> They do exactly the same things most Windows users do...
>>
>> ...but they get it done with many fewer problems.
> 
> 
> I'm saying if they're having problems with a computer, they should
> learn how to correct it, instead of being a sissy and getting tech
> support.
Do you say the same thing about people who have problems with their 
cars, or home appliances?

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#679829

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 17:24 -0500
Message-ID<vt3kljhqa92u0ljonl7iivu1o8clkkd7of@4ax.com>
In reply to#679816
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> High-end PCs can benefit
>>>> from M$'s tinkering [to make Windows 11 just right].
>>>
>>> Give an example.
>> 
>> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
>> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
>> for others, but they often overlook it.
>
>In what way is booting that a better experience than booting macOS 
>Sequoia 15.1.1 on an M3 Mac?
>
>Be specific (for once).


macOS just isn't something suitable for the norm, but to people caught
in Apple land it seems to be.


>>>>>>>> They depend on
>>>>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>>>>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>>>>> software) is available for macOS.
>>>>
>>>> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.
>>>
>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>> 
>> Nothing.
>
>So you have no actual answer.
>
>You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done 
>on a Mac.
>
>Got it.


It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
WinNT and Linux have.


>>>>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, wear it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not until you define it.
>>>>
>>>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>>>
>>> That's another non-answer.
>> 
>> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
>> programmers put in.
>
>As opposed to what?


Windows, several Linux file programs.


>What specifically do you not like about the Finder?


It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...


>And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?


Very little since.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679835

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 15:18 -0800
Message-ID<vjd6ks$1p2oa$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679829
On 2024-12-11 14:24, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> High-end PCs can benefit
>>>>> from M$'s tinkering [to make Windows 11 just right].
>>>>
>>>> Give an example.
>>>
>>> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
>>> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
>>> for others, but they often overlook it.
>>
>> In what way is booting that a better experience than booting macOS
>> Sequoia 15.1.1 on an M3 Mac?
>>
>> Be specific (for once).
> 
> 
> macOS just isn't something suitable for the norm, but to people caught
> in Apple land it seems to be.

You made a specific claim.

Back it up or shut up.

> 
> 
>>>>>>>>> They depend on
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>>>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>>>>>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>>>>>> software) is available for macOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.
>>>>
>>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>>>
>>> Nothing.
>>
>> So you have no actual answer.
>>
>> You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done
>> on a Mac.
>>
>> Got it.
> 
> 
> It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
> WinNT and Linux have.

So then your insult was just bigotry...

...right?

> 
> 
>>>>>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>>>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, wear it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not until you define it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>>>>
>>>> That's another non-answer.
>>>
>>> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
>>> programmers put in.
>>
>> As opposed to what?
> 
> 
> Windows, several Linux file programs.
 > >
>> What specifically do you not like about the Finder?
> 
> 
> It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...

IN WHAT WAY?

What is a specific thing that the Windows and/or Linux file programs do 
that the Finder does not do?

> 
> 
>> And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?
> 
> 
> Very little since.
> 

So your whole claim is bullshit, then.

Got it.

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#679837

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 18:30 -0500
Message-ID<fp7kljht5uhci8plo10lpt5p804aj6iur4@4ax.com>
In reply to#679835
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> High-end PCs can benefit
>>>>>> from M$'s tinkering [to make Windows 11 just right].
>>>>>
>>>>> Give an example.
>>>>
>>>> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
>>>> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
>>>> for others, but they often overlook it.
>>>
>>> In what way is booting that a better experience than booting macOS
>>> Sequoia 15.1.1 on an M3 Mac?
>>>
>>> Be specific (for once).
>> 
>> macOS just isn't something suitable for the norm, but to people caught
>> in Apple land it seems to be.
>
>You made a specific claim.
>
>Back it up or shut up.


If you like macOS, you like it.  I don't begrudge one that right.


>>>>>> Simple people like simple things [Apple's GUI], I suppose.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing.
>>>
>>> So you have no actual answer.
>>>
>>> You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done
>>> on a Mac.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>> 
>> It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
>> WinNT and Linux have.
>
>So then your insult was just bigotry...
>
>...right?


I am bigoted against lousiness, yes.


>>> What specifically do you not like about the Finder?
>> 
>> It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...
>
>IN WHAT WAY?
>
>What is a specific thing that the Windows and/or Linux file programs do 
>that the Finder does not do?
>
>>> And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?
>> 
>> Very little since.
>
>So your whole claim is bullshit, then.
>
>Got it.


Finder in Snow Leopard was just Apple being Apple, I guess, not
applying themselves to the product.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679842

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 15:42 -0800
Message-ID<vjd80m$1p97a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679837
On 2024-12-11 15:30, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> High-end PCs can benefit
>>>>>>> from M$'s tinkering [to make Windows 11 just right].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Give an example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
>>>>> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
>>>>> for others, but they often overlook it.
>>>>
>>>> In what way is booting that a better experience than booting macOS
>>>> Sequoia 15.1.1 on an M3 Mac?
>>>>
>>>> Be specific (for once).
>>>
>>> macOS just isn't something suitable for the norm, but to people caught
>>> in Apple land it seems to be.
>>
>> You made a specific claim.
>>
>> Back it up or shut up.
> 
> 
> If you like macOS, you like it.  I don't begrudge one that right.

This is you running away from your claim that somehow the Windows 
"experience" is better.

> 
> 
>>>>>>> Simple people like simple things [Apple's GUI], I suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>
>>>> So you have no actual answer.
>>>>
>>>> You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done
>>>> on a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
>>> WinNT and Linux have.
>>
>> So then your insult was just bigotry...
>>
>> ...right?
> 
> 
> I am bigoted against lousiness, yes.

1. You haven't shown a single bit of "lousiness" yet. In fact, when 
challenged, you have always deflected.

2. Your bigotry is in your assumption that anyone who uses a Mac must be 
"simple">

> 
> 
>>>> What specifically do you not like about the Finder?
>>>
>>> It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...
>>
>> IN WHAT WAY?
>>
>> What is a specific thing that the Windows and/or Linux file programs do
>> that the Finder does not do?
>>
>>>> And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?
>>>
>>> Very little since.
>>
>> So your whole claim is bullshit, then.
>>
>> Got it.
> 
> 
> Finder in Snow Leopard was just Apple being Apple, I guess, not
> applying themselves to the product.
IN WHAT SPECIFIC WAY?

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#679844

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 18:47 -0500
Message-ID<i09kljlsi65br9tcr4fv82fkphp656otck@4ax.com>
In reply to#679842
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Simple people like simple things [Apple's GUI], I suppose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you have no actual answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done
>>>>> on a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>> It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
>>>> WinNT and Linux have.
>>>
>>> So then your insult was just bigotry...
>>>
>>> ...right?
>> 
>> I am bigoted against lousiness, yes.
>
>1. You haven't shown a single bit of "lousiness" yet. In fact, when 
>challenged, you have always deflected.
>
>2. Your bigotry is in your assumption that anyone who uses a Mac must be 
>"simple">


The GUI effects of Apple are weird and quirky.  Not as advanced as one
would find with Windows or typical Linux.


>>>>> What specifically do you not like about the Finder?
>>>>
>>>> It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...
>>>
>>> IN WHAT WAY?
>>>
>>> What is a specific thing that the Windows and/or Linux file programs do
>>> that the Finder does not do?
>>>
>>>>> And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?
>>>>
>>>> Very little since.
>>>
>>> So your whole claim is bullshit, then.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>> 
>> Finder in Snow Leopard was just Apple being Apple, I guess, not
>> applying themselves to the product.
>IN WHAT SPECIFIC WAY?


It only had rudimentary features.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#679845

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 15:50 -0800
Message-ID<vjd8fu$1pc97$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679844
On 2024-12-11 15:47, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> Simple people like simple things [Apple's GUI], I suppose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you have no actual answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't produce a single example of a complex thing that can't be done
>>>>>> on a Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was acknowledgement of your point.  macOS has every capability that
>>>>> WinNT and Linux have.
>>>>
>>>> So then your insult was just bigotry...
>>>>
>>>> ...right?
>>>
>>> I am bigoted against lousiness, yes.
>>
>> 1. You haven't shown a single bit of "lousiness" yet. In fact, when
>> challenged, you have always deflected.
>>
>> 2. Your bigotry is in your assumption that anyone who uses a Mac must be
>> "simple">
> 
> 
> The GUI effects of Apple are weird and quirky.  Not as advanced as one
> would find with Windows or typical Linux.

Give a SPECIFIC example.

> 
> 
>>>>>> What specifically do you not like about the Finder?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just basic and clunky, or was in ...
>>>>
>>>> IN WHAT WAY?
>>>>
>>>> What is a specific thing that the Windows and/or Linux file programs do
>>>> that the Finder does not do?
>>>>
>>>>>> And how out-of-date is your experience of it; Snow Leopard?
>>>>>
>>>>> Very little since.
>>>>
>>>> So your whole claim is bullshit, then.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> Finder in Snow Leopard was just Apple being Apple, I guess, not
>>> applying themselves to the product.
>> IN WHAT SPECIFIC WAY?
> 
> 
> It only had rudimentary features.
Give a SPECIFIC example.

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#679791

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-11 13:52 -0600
Message-ID<vjcsse$1n5sn$25@dont-email.me>
In reply to#679619

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:apfhljtmag32kqlvrc29fc7i95n163ka33@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)
>>>
>>> Mach's derivatives are the basis of the operating system kernel in GNU
>>> Hurd and of Apple's XNU kernel used in macOS, iOS, iPadOS, tvOS, and
>>> watchOS.
>>And XNU therefore isn't Mach and Mach is NOT the kernel that Apple uses.
>
>
> Uh huh.
>
>
>>So the answer is to the question, "Does Apple have its own kernel?"...
>>
>>...is:
>>
>>Yes. Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>
>>Now, here's a question for you:
>>
>>Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>
>
> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.

You think Windows NT was written totally from scratch? LMAO..

.. some 'elite' you are turning out to be.

 

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#682350

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-02 14:40 -0500
Message-ID<6sqdnjls21co48iqcruqgq190gv1q43pl1@4ax.com>
In reply to#679791
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:apfhljtmag32kqlvrc29fc7i95n163ka33@4ax.com...
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>
>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.
>
>You think Windows NT was written totally from scratch? LMAO..
>
>.. some 'elite' you are turning out to be.


I don't think Windows NT 3.x began from scratch, I *know* it did.  You
are an idiot.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#682380

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-01-02 12:58 -0800
Message-ID<vl6ukr$3gllh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#682350
On 2025-01-02 11:40, Joel wrote:
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:apfhljtmag32kqlvrc29fc7i95n163ka33@4ax.com...
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>
>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.
>>
>> You think Windows NT was written totally from scratch? LMAO..
>>
>> .. some 'elite' you are turning out to be.
> 
> 
> I don't think Windows NT 3.x began from scratch, I *know* it did.  You
> are an idiot.
> 

Reusing concepts from VMS means it wasn't really written "from scratch".

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#682394

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-02 17:05 -0500
Message-ID<ob3enj1ik4sieh9o6r9646kuv7bct5vn4g@4ax.com>
In reply to#682380
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-01-02 11:40, Joel wrote:
>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:apfhljtmag32kqlvrc29fc7i95n163ka33@4ax.com...
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>
>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.
>>>
>>> You think Windows NT was written totally from scratch? LMAO..
>>>
>>> .. some 'elite' you are turning out to be.
>> 
>> I don't think Windows NT 3.x began from scratch, I *know* it did.  You
>> are an idiot.
>
>Reusing concepts from VMS means it wasn't really written "from scratch".


"Concepts" != "code", *doofus*.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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