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Another day

Started by"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
First post2016-08-22 20:04 +0000
Last post2016-08-25 08:38 -0400
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  Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 20:04 +0000
    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 13:35 -0700
      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 20:47 +0000
        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 13:51 -0700
          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:07 +0000
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 14:16 -0700
              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:32 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 14:38 -0700
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 22:04 +0000
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 15:22 -0700
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 23:00 +0000
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 16:13 -0700
                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:00 +0000
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 09:11 -0700
                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:22 +0000
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 09:37 -0700
                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:54 +0000
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 10:14 -0700
                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 17:21 +0000
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 10:29 -0700
                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 17:43 +0000
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:03 -0700
                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:51 -0400
                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:17 +0000
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 09:05 -0700
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:51 -0600
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:01 -0700
                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 18:27 +0000
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:46 -0700
                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:17 -0600
                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:07 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 09:41 -0700
                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 20:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 20:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 01:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:14 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-26 09:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 13:37 +0000
                                                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-26 09:56 -0400
                                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 10:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:29 -0700
                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 10:41 -0400
                                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:23 -0700
                                                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 09:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:08 -0400
                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:32 -0700
                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 09:24 -0700
                                                        Re: Another day chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-26 11:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:36 -0600
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:45 -0400
                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:52 -0600
                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 13:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:18 -0400
                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 14:39 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 18:42 -0400
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 17:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 00:09 +0000
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 17:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:29 -0600
                                                                          Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:26 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 04:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 21:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 05:15 +0000
                                                                            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 05:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 00:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:30 -0600
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:27 -0600
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 09:20 +0200
                                                                          Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 10:04 +0200
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:06 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 10:23 +0200
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:39 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:09 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:27 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:10 -0400
                                                                            Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 21:58 +0200
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 13:17 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:28 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:15 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:38 -0400
                                                                              Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 22:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 13:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-27 19:10 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 03:20 +0000
                                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:35 -0400
                                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:16 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 10:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:19 -0600
                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 15:34 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 19:03 -0400
                                                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:28 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-27 15:30 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:20 -0600
                                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:24 -0600
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:01 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 07:39 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-28 16:22 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 09:50 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 15:29 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 20:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 17:40 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 15:14 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 18:19 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:18 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:40 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:42 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:44 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:59 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 18:16 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:08 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:17 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-29 09:06 -0400
                                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:42 -0400
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 08:12 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 11:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 10:00 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 19:22 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 16:57 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-29 18:39 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 15:43 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 23:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:09 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-29 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 18:13 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-29 19:34 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 01:49 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 01:46 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:21 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 02:26 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-30 09:16 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 15:26 +0200
                                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-28 12:38 -0600
                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:16 -0400
                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 14:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:20 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 15:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 18:38 -0400
                                                                      Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 01:50 +0200
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 20:13 -0400
                                                                          Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 09:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:35 -0600
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:15 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-29 11:02 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 08:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:10 -0400
                                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:21 -0600
                                                        Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 09:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 16:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:16 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:39 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:39 -0400
                                                                      Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 14:26 -0400
                                                                          Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 12:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 19:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:22 -0400
                                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 19:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:33 -0700
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:20 -0600
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 21:27 -0700
                                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 14:04 -0600
                                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 13:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 18:00 -0600
                                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:18 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:40 -0600
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:37 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:42 -0600
                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0600
                                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 14:08 -0400
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:18 -0600
                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0400
          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 12:00 -0600
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:13 -0700
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:57 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:16 -0700
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:31 +0000
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:44 -0700
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 23:00 +0000
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 16:07 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:25 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:40 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:22 -0600
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:39 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:59 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:14 -0600
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:50 -0700
                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:39 -0600
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 12:07 -0700
                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:44 -0600
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:17 -0700
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:07 -0400
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:02 +0000
                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:59 -0400
                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:25 +0000
                            Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:16 +0000
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:16 -0600
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:34 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:09 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:08 -0400
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:10 +0000
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:28 -0600
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:12 -0400
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#366416

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-23 15:44 -0700
Message-ID<D3E21FC4.79E86%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366412
On 8/23/16, 3:31 PM, in article ahjfdu03.a@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/23/16, 2:57 PM, in article npigt3$tkm$3@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>> Trump isn't a horror show.
>>>> 
>>>> He has no plans and no qualifications, and has not been successful in his
>>>> businesses. He *is* a good troll, able to play the media. But what else
>>>> does
>>>> he have?
>>> 
>>> Who says that Trump has no qualifications?  He has one... he's a mason.
>> 
>> How is that a qualification?
> 
> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.

LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
 
>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>> plenty of help across the country.
>>> Funny thing, it is the media that is ragging on trump but not one bad
>>> word about hillary.
>> 
>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
> 
> The Founders were all Masons.

And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
rich, male, slave owning masons.

Insane.

>>>> His ever changing yet always unrealistic wall? That is a non-starter. His
>>>> xenophobic fear mongering which will split the country and lead to wars?
>>>> Not
>>>> a fan. Really... what does he offer?
>>> 
>>> Peace and back to the real law of the land... not sharia law that
>>> hillary is promoting.
>> 
>> She is not promoting that. Nor is she pushing fear mongering bigotry as much
>> as he does.
> 
> She is pushing anti-Russia fear mongering.  Russia is not our enemy.
> The Dems want to make them the enemy and would rather cozy up with the
> true enemy. 

Go on.
 
>>>>> He gives great promise of putting back the balance to government, where it
>>>>> started with the Chimp, in scoffing the law and doing whatever he wants to
>>>>> anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> I truly have no idea what you are even talking about? Bedtime for Bonzo?
>>>> Undoing what Reagan did? Balance with???
>>> 
>>> You know, George Bush, aka the chimp.
>> 
>> I think Trump is in the same IQ / capability range... though more
>> charismatic and a better troll.
> 
> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.

I want them to be reasonably intelligent.

As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
the value other than to brag.



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#366418

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-23 23:00 +0000
Message-ID<hjgad830a.3@perch.invalid>
In reply to#366416
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/16, 3:31 PM, in article ahjfdu03.a@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/23/16, 2:57 PM, in article npigt3$tkm$3@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>>>> Trump isn't a horror show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He has no plans and no qualifications, and has not been successful in his
>>>>> businesses. He *is* a good troll, able to play the media. But what else
>>>>> does
>>>>> he have?
>>>> 
>>>> Who says that Trump has no qualifications?  He has one... he's a mason.
>>> 
>>> How is that a qualification?
>> 
>> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
>> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.
> 
> LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
>  

Then you're qualified to run.  You should go for it.


>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>> plenty of help across the country.
>>>> Funny thing, it is the media that is ragging on trump but not one bad
>>>> word about hillary.
>>> 
>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>> 
>> The Founders were all Masons.
> 
> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
> rich, male, slave owning masons.
> 

America.  Love it or leave it.

> Insane.
> 

So you think the Founders were insane.  Typical liberal.


>>>>> His ever changing yet always unrealistic wall? That is a non-starter. His
>>>>> xenophobic fear mongering which will split the country and lead to wars?
>>>>> Not
>>>>> a fan. Really... what does he offer?
>>>> 
>>>> Peace and back to the real law of the land... not sharia law that
>>>> hillary is promoting.
>>> 
>>> She is not promoting that. Nor is she pushing fear mongering bigotry as much
>>> as he does.
>> 
>> She is pushing anti-Russia fear mongering.  Russia is not our enemy.
>> The Dems want to make them the enemy and would rather cozy up with the
>> true enemy. 
> 
> Go on.
>  

?

>>>>>> He gives great promise of putting back the balance to government, where it
>>>>>> started with the Chimp, in scoffing the law and doing whatever he wants to
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I truly have no idea what you are even talking about? Bedtime for Bonzo?
>>>>> Undoing what Reagan did? Balance with???
>>>> 
>>>> You know, George Bush, aka the chimp.
>>> 
>>> I think Trump is in the same IQ / capability range... though more
>>> charismatic and a better troll.
>> 
>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
> 
> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
> 

I want them to have vision, leadership, and personality.
That spells Trump.

> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
> the value other than to brag.
> 
 
Nothing to brag about.  One in fifty is hardly stratospheric.

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#366420

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-23 16:07 -0700
Message-ID<D3E2252C.79E92%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366418
On 8/23/16, 4:00 PM, in article hjgad830a.3@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

...
>>>> How is that a qualification?
>>> 
>>> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
>>> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.
>> 
>> LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
> 
> Then you're qualified to run.  You should go for it.

And you think I would be as good as any president... because I am just as
qualified. Cool!

Of course, your reasoning is absurd, but there it is. :)

> 
>>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>>> plenty of help across the country.
>>>>> Funny thing, it is the media that is ragging on trump but not one bad
>>>>> word about hillary.
>>>> 
>>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>> 
>>> The Founders were all Masons.
>> 
>> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
>> rich, male, slave owning masons.
> 
> America.  Love it or leave it.

Or stay and help make it better.

>> Insane.
> 
> So you think the Founders were insane.  Typical liberal.

At this point you HAVE to be trolling.

> 
>>>>>> His ever changing yet always unrealistic wall? That is a non-starter. His
>>>>>> xenophobic fear mongering which will split the country and lead to wars?
>>>>>> Not a fan. Really... what does he offer?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Peace and back to the real law of the land... not sharia law that hillary
>>>>> is promoting.
>>>>> 
>>>> She is not promoting that. Nor is she pushing fear mongering bigotry as
>>>> much as he does.
>>>> 
>>> She is pushing anti-Russia fear mongering.  Russia is not our enemy. The
>>> Dems want to make them the enemy and would rather cozy up with the true
>>> enemy.
>>> 
>> Go on. 
> 
> ?

You are making a claim. Go on. Support. Reasoning. Evidence. Logic. You
know... ANYTHING of value. :)

>>>>>>> He gives great promise of putting back the balance to government, where
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> started with the Chimp, in scoffing the law and doing whatever he wants
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I truly have no idea what you are even talking about? Bedtime for Bonzo?
>>>>>> Undoing what Reagan did? Balance with???
>>>>> 
>>>>> You know, George Bush, aka the chimp.
>>>> 
>>>> I think Trump is in the same IQ / capability range... though more
>>>> charismatic and a better troll.
>>> 
>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>> 
>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
> 
> I want them to have vision, leadership, and personality.
> That spells Trump.

How so? What vision does he have? Heck, even his well keeps changing sizes
and costs. He is completely lost. And what type leadership?

>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
>> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
>> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
>> the value other than to brag.
>  
> Nothing to brag about.  One in fifty is hardly stratospheric.

Fair enough. 



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#366447

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-23 22:25 -0600
Message-ID<npj7kk$oi8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366420
On 08/23/16 17:07, Snit wrote:
> On 8/23/16, 4:00 PM, in article hjgad830a.3@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange"<olagrang@perch.invalid>  wrote:
>
> ...
>>>>> How is that a qualification?
>>>>
>>>> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
>>>> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.
>>>
>>> LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
>>
>> Then you're qualified to run.  You should go for it.
>
> And you think I would be as good as any president... because I am just as
> qualified. Cool!
>
> Of course, your reasoning is absurd, but there it is. :)
>

How do you know your reasoning is absurd?
Look at the herd known as COLA.
They have 7 as their president.

Make up your campaign slogan.  Everybody else has that ran.

SNIT FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Now you'll have to keep looking over your shoulder and fend off all of 
Hillarys' lies about you.
It will be hard to stay alive with her around.

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#366455

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-23 21:40 -0700
Message-ID<D3E27345.79ECC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366447
On 8/23/16, 9:25 PM, in article npj7kk$oi8$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

> On 08/23/16 17:07, Snit wrote:
>> On 8/23/16, 4:00 PM, in article hjgad830a.3@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
>> Lagrange"<olagrang@perch.invalid>  wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>>> How is that a qualification?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
>>>>> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.
>>>> 
>>>> LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
>>> 
>>> Then you're qualified to run.  You should go for it.
>> 
>> And you think I would be as good as any president... because I am just as
>> qualified. Cool!
>> 
>> Of course, your reasoning is absurd, but there it is. :)
> 
> How do you know your reasoning is absurd?
> Look at the herd known as COLA.
> They have 7 as their president.
> 
> Make up your campaign slogan.  Everybody else has that ran.
> 
> SNIT FOR PRESIDENT!!!
> 
> Now you'll have to keep looking over your shoulder and fend off all of
> Hillarys' lies about you.
> It will be hard to stay alive with her around.

:)


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#366446

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-23 22:22 -0600
Message-ID<npj7ej$oi8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366416
On 08/23/16 16:44, Snit wrote:
> On 8/23/16, 3:31 PM, in article ahjfdu03.a@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange"<olagrang@perch.invalid>  wrote:
>
>> Snit<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>  wrote:
>>> On 8/23/16, 2:57 PM, in article npigt3$tkm$3@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> Trump isn't a horror show.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has no plans and no qualifications, and has not been successful in his
>>>>> businesses. He *is* a good troll, able to play the media. But what else
>>>>> does
>>>>> he have?
>>>>
>>>> Who says that Trump has no qualifications?  He has one... he's a mason.
>>>
>>> How is that a qualification?
>>
>> The Constitution says 35 yrs old, natural born citizen, living here
>> at least 14 yrs.  That it for the requisite qualifications.
>
> LOL! OK, he has that. So do I. So what?
>
>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>> plenty of help across the country.
>>>> Funny thing, it is the media that is ragging on trump but not one bad
>>>> word about hillary.
>>>
>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>
>> The Founders were all Masons.
>
> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
> rich, male, slave owning masons.
>
> Insane.
>

Get real.  Thomas Jefferson saw the problem too, but wanted to send them 
back to africa.
Britain had white slaves as well during that time... that's how this 
slavery stuff got started.
Masons wrote the U.S. Constitution.  Naysaying the best document in the 
world is what is insane.

>>>>> His ever changing yet always unrealistic wall? That is a non-starter. His
>>>>> xenophobic fear mongering which will split the country and lead to wars?
>>>>> Not
>>>>> a fan. Really... what does he offer?
>>>>
>>>> Peace and back to the real law of the land... not sharia law that
>>>> hillary is promoting.
>>>
>>> She is not promoting that. Nor is she pushing fear mongering bigotry as much
>>> as he does.
>>
>> She is pushing anti-Russia fear mongering.  Russia is not our enemy.
>> The Dems want to make them the enemy and would rather cozy up with the
>> true enemy.
>
> Go on.
>
>>>>>> He gives great promise of putting back the balance to government, where it
>>>>>> started with the Chimp, in scoffing the law and doing whatever he wants to
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I truly have no idea what you are even talking about? Bedtime for Bonzo?
>>>>> Undoing what Reagan did? Balance with???
>>>>
>>>> You know, George Bush, aka the chimp.
>>>
>>> I think Trump is in the same IQ / capability range... though more
>>> charismatic and a better troll.
>>
>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>
> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.

Trump is very intelligent.  People just don't like his style and style 
has nothing to do with it.  For the most part, todays people are nothing 
more than a bunch of wusses.  Always wanting everthing on a silver 
plater without working for it.

>
> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
> the value other than to brag.
>
>
>
I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has plenty 
of that.  Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.  But if 
trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that debt and 
tell the central banks to take a hike.

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#366454

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-23 21:39 -0700
Message-ID<D3E2732D.79ECB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366446
On 8/23/16, 9:22 PM, in article npj7ej$oi8$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

...
>>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>>> plenty of help across the country. Funny thing, it is the media that is
>>>>> ragging on trump but not one bad word about hillary.
>>>>> 
>>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>>> 
>>> The Founders were all Masons.
>>> 
>> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
>> rich, male, slave owning masons.
>> 
>> Insane.
> 
> Get real.  Thomas Jefferson saw the problem too, but wanted to send them
> back to africa.

I do not deny any of the founding fathers were racists / bigots... as noted
they all had slaves.

> Britain had white slaves as well during that time... that's how this
> slavery stuff got started.
> Masons wrote the U.S. Constitution.  Naysaying the best document in the
> world is what is insane.

Who is naysaying it? At the same time I do not worship it... we should
follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what amendments
are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men could vote (or
were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have moved FAR forward in
equal rights. The level of improvement in that area is amazing... and has
continued even over the last few years at a pace I never expected to see.

... 
>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>> 
>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
> 
> Trump is very intelligent.

Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited) with
value as a person

> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it.  For the
> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses.  Always
> wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.

I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the country, no
plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.

>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
>> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
>> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
>> the value other than to brag.
>> 
> I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
> It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has plenty
> of that.

If so he hides it well!

> Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.

What makes you think that?

<https://goo.gl/EQa0AK>

> But if trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that debt and
> tell the central banks to take a hike.

He would be in so far over his head we would be in BIG trouble... but
thankfully his chance of getting to the White House is slim. Sadly Clinton's
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#366502

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-24 11:59 -0600
Message-ID<npkn9e$gpq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366454
On 08/23/16 22:39, Snit wrote:
> On 8/23/16, 9:22 PM, in article npj7ej$oi8$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>
> ...
>>>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>>>> plenty of help across the country. Funny thing, it is the media that is
>>>>>> ragging on trump but not one bad word about hillary.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>>>>
>>>> The Founders were all Masons.
>>>>
>>> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
>>> rich, male, slave owning masons.
>>>
>>> Insane.
>>
>> Get real.  Thomas Jefferson saw the problem too, but wanted to send them
>> back to africa.
>
> I do not deny any of the founding fathers were racists / bigots... as noted
> they all had slaves.
>
>> Britain had white slaves as well during that time... that's how this
>> slavery stuff got started.
>> Masons wrote the U.S. Constitution.  Naysaying the best document in the
>> world is what is insane.
>
> Who is naysaying it?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/05/hillary-clinton-plan-abolish-second-amendment/

http://freedomoutpost.com/obama-admin-seeks-to-repeal-second-amendment-apart-from-congress-via-executive-order/#!

> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what amendments
> are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men could vote (or
> were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have moved FAR forward in
> equal rights. The level of improvement in that area is amazing... and has
> continued even over the last few years at a pace I never expected to see.
>
> ...
>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>
>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>
>> Trump is very intelligent.
>
> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited) with
> value as a person.

Who says he inherited it?

>
>> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it.  For the
>> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses.  Always
>> wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.
>
> I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
> president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the country, no
> plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.
>

How so?

>>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
>>> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
>>> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
>>> the value other than to brag.
>>>
>> I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
>> It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has plenty
>> of that.
>
> If so he hides it well!
>

How so?

>> Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.
>
> What makes you think that?

The latest $2trillion debt increase.

>
> <https://goo.gl/EQa0AK>
>
>> But if trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that debt and
>> tell the central banks to take a hike.
>
> He would be in so far over his head we would be in BIG trouble... but
> thankfully his chance of getting to the White House is slim. Sadly Clinton's
> chances are high, and she is no better.

Only because the banking cabal is already out for his blood.  They are 
very afraid of him.  Going back to the gold standard would eliminate the 
banking cabal for good.  I remember that my grandfather around 1900 got 
a $4,000 home loan from the Bank of Congress with no interest at all, 
just a $30 filing fee.  Paid it back in 5 years.  Now that sounds more 
sane than what the bankers want from you.

Besides, did you know that the banking system, the Federal Reserve, is 
an offshore foreign bank?

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#366517

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
Message-ID<D3E33865.79F6A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366502
On 8/24/16, 10:59 AM, in article npkn9e$gpq$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

> On 08/23/16 22:39, Snit wrote:
>> On 8/23/16, 9:22 PM, in article npj7ej$oi8$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He has
>>>>>>> plenty of help across the country. Funny thing, it is the media that is
>>>>>>> ragging on trump but not one bad word about hillary.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The Founders were all Masons.
>>>>> 
>>>> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only elect
>>>> rich, male, slave owning masons.
>>>> 
>>>> Insane.
>>> 
>>> Get real.  Thomas Jefferson saw the problem too, but wanted to send them
>>> back to africa.
>> 
>> I do not deny any of the founding fathers were racists / bigots... as noted
>> they all had slaves.
>> 
>>> Britain had white slaves as well during that time... that's how this
>>> slavery stuff got started.
>>> Masons wrote the U.S. Constitution.  Naysaying the best document in the
>>> world is what is insane.
>> 
>> Who is naysaying it?
> 
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/05/hillary-clinton-plan-abolis
> h-second-amendment/
> 
> http://freedomoutpost.com/obama-admin-seeks-to-repeal-second-amendment-apart-f
> rom-congress-via-executive-order/#!

One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites are not
news sites.

Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and other
nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.

Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic which is
absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to the topic of
repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.

Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is absurd
beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.

>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what amendments
>> are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men could vote (or
>> were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have moved FAR forward in
>> equal rights. The level of improvement in that area is amazing... and has
>> continued even over the last few years at a pace I never expected to see.
>> 
>> ...
>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>> 
>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>> 
>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>> 
>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited) with
>> value as a person.
> 
> Who says he inherited it?

Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put the
money into the stock market.

So where is the evidence of his great business skills?

>>> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it.  For
>>> the
>>> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses.  Always
>>> wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.
>> 
>> I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
>> president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the country, no
>> plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.
> 
> How so?

His lack of plans. He has none. When he tries to talk about them he changes
from one telling to the next. Look at his wall -- how tall does he want it
to be and how much will it cost? Just look at what HE says.

He has no clue.

>>>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on their
>>>> tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us some of their
>>>> tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in Mensa... do not see
>>>> the value other than to brag.
>>>> 
>>> I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
>>> It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has plenty
>>> of that.
>> 
>> If so he hides it well!
>
> How so?

Where does he show ANY common sense? On what issue?
 
>>> Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.
>> 
>> What makes you think that?
> 
> The latest $2trillion debt increase.

Did you see the image at the link?

>> <https://goo.gl/EQa0AK>
>> 
>>> But if trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that debt
>>> and
>>> tell the central banks to take a hike.
>> 
>> He would be in so far over his head we would be in BIG trouble... but
>> thankfully his chance of getting to the White House is slim. Sadly Clinton's
>> chances are high, and she is no better.
> 
> Only because the banking cabal is already out for his blood.  They are
> very afraid of him.  Going back to the gold standard would eliminate the
> banking cabal for good.  I remember that my grandfather around 1900 got
> a $4,000 home loan from the Bank of Congress with no interest at all,
> just a $30 filing fee.  Paid it back in 5 years.  Now that sounds more
> sane than what the bankers want from you.

The banks are not the ones voting... but, sure, they will fund Clinton. And
she will benefit from fraud if needed.

> Besides, did you know that the banking system, the Federal Reserve, is
> an offshore foreign bank?

I know the system is absurd.

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#366600

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-24 21:14 -0600
Message-ID<nplnqa$ni6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366517
Snit wrote:

> On 8/24/16, 10:59 AM, in article npkn9e$gpq$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/23/16 22:39, Snit wrote:
>>> On 8/23/16, 9:22 PM, in article npj7ej$oi8$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>>>>>> And the masons are the ones that created the U.S. Constitution.  He
>>>>>>>> has plenty of help across the country. Funny thing, it is the media
>>>>>>>> that is ragging on trump but not one bad word about hillary.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> He is in an organization. That is not a qualification.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Founders were all Masons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> And male and rich and slave owners. By this "logic" we should only
>>>>> elect rich, male, slave owning masons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Insane.
>>>> 
>>>> Get real.  Thomas Jefferson saw the problem too, but wanted to send
>>>> them back to africa.
>>> 
>>> I do not deny any of the founding fathers were racists / bigots... as
>>> noted they all had slaves.
>>> 
>>>> Britain had white slaves as well during that time... that's how this
>>>> slavery stuff got started.
>>>> Masons wrote the U.S. Constitution.  Naysaying the best document in the
>>>> world is what is insane.
>>> 
>>> Who is naysaying it?
>> 
>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/05/hillary-clinton-plan-
abolis
>> h-second-amendment/
>> 
>> http://freedomoutpost.com/obama-admin-seeks-to-repeal-second-amendment-
apart-f
>> rom-congress-via-executive-order/#!
> 
> One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites are
> not news sites.

Sure they are.  At least journalism is alive at these sites while the MSM 
aren't doing journalism anymore... just parrots talking the line.

> 
> Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and other
> nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.

So?  Go to NBCs site and you'll see worse.

> 
> Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic which
> is absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to the topic
> of repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.

It seems that way till you try to vet them for accuracy.  Then that's when 
the truth starts landing home.

> 
> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.

He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.
George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now hoping 
to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial law.  It is a 
possibility to consider.  It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to 
disarm his citizens.

> 
>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have moved
>>> FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that area is
>>> amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at a pace I
>>> never expected to see.
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>> 
>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>> 
>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited)
>>> with value as a person.
>> 
>> Who says he inherited it?
> 
> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put the
> money into the stock market.

No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.  One, as a 
general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and priviledges 
because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book on making the 
deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.

> 
> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
> 

Oh, his casinos for one.
And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.  These people don't have 
money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways to get 
people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
And this scares the cabal pretty bad.

Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most of 
the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something that 
the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased what 
is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be imminent.  I 
hope not.

>>>> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it. 
>>>> For the
>>>> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses. 
>>>> Always wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.
>>> 
>>> I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
>>> president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the country,
>>> no plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.
>> 
>> How so?
> 
> His lack of plans. He has none. When he tries to talk about them he
> changes from one telling to the next. Look at his wall -- how tall does he
> want it to be and how much will it cost? Just look at what HE says.
> 

OH, he has plans all-right.  He wants to get rid of NAFTA, GATT, and TPP if 
it passes.  These will bring back the work to the U.S. where goods can again 
say "Made in America".  He is saying that these deals are stupid deals that 
weren't even thought out correctly.  I say these deals were done by design a 
long time ago to bring the U.S. to third world status.
That way we can all have a unified world government... but only one major 
problem... who is going to be in charge?
That's the scary part.

> He has no clue.

Oh, he knows what is going on.

> 
>>>>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on
>>>>> their tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us
>>>>> some of their tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in
>>>>> Mensa... do not see the value other than to brag.
>>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
>>>> It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has
>>>> plenty of that.
>>> 
>>> If so he hides it well!
>>
>> How so?
> 
> Where does he show ANY common sense? On what issue?
>  

Economics for one.
Immigration for another.

>>>> Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.
>>> 
>>> What makes you think that?
>> 
>> The latest $2trillion debt increase.
> 
> Did you see the image at the link?

Uh, which link?

> 
>>> <https://goo.gl/EQa0AK>
>>> 
>>>> But if trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that
>>>> debt and
>>>> tell the central banks to take a hike.
>>> 
>>> He would be in so far over his head we would be in BIG trouble... but
>>> thankfully his chance of getting to the White House is slim. Sadly
>>> Clinton's chances are high, and she is no better.
>> 
>> Only because the banking cabal is already out for his blood.  They are
>> very afraid of him.  Going back to the gold standard would eliminate the
>> banking cabal for good.  I remember that my grandfather around 1900 got
>> a $4,000 home loan from the Bank of Congress with no interest at all,
>> just a $30 filing fee.  Paid it back in 5 years.  Now that sounds more
>> sane than what the bankers want from you.
> 
> The banks are not the ones voting... but, sure, they will fund Clinton.
> And she will benefit from fraud if needed.

More than benefit.  They profit from chaos and wars the most.

> 
>> Besides, did you know that the banking system, the Federal Reserve, is
>> an offshore foreign bank?
> 
> I know the system is absurd.
> 
It sure is and we are the slaves to their system.


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#366612

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-24 20:50 -0700
Message-ID<D3E3B90D.7A05C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366600
On 8/24/16, 8:14 PM, in article nplnqa$ni6$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

...
>> One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites are
>> not news sites.
> 
> Sure they are.  At least journalism is alive at these sites while the MSM
> aren't doing journalism anymore... just parrots talking the line.

I expected you to try to push that. I made a video of my going to the sites:

<https://youtu.be/dbhYCvVUe_M>

These sites do not even begin to pass the sniff test. They are click bait
for people who are not paying attention.

>> Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and other
>> nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.
> 
> So?  Go to NBCs site and you'll see worse.

The MSM is bad... but, no, you will not see worse than THAT. It is no better
of a source than the Onion. Really.

>> Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic which
>> is absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to the topic
>> of repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.
> 
> It seems that way till you try to vet them for accuracy.  Then that's when
> the truth starts landing home.

Vet what for accuracy? The absurdity of their "logic"? They do not even try
to make a coherent argument.

>> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
>> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.
> 
> He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.

That is just silly. They made no moves toward it... remember, gun sales went
up. Almost surely gun production went up. Not down.

The idea they are trying to repeal the second amendment is absurd... and
even if they did the courts would shoot it down in 10 seconds. It is
mindless fear mongering to rally conservatives. Not worth consideration.

> George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now hoping
> to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial law.

Again, not even worth consideration.

> It is a possibility to consider.

No, not really. 

> It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to disarm his citizens.

No, that actually happened!

If anything the closest we have to a Hitler in this country right now is
Trump with his blame on the minorities and weak. And his followers believe
that nonsense!

>>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have moved
>>>> FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that area is
>>>> amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at a pace I
>>>> never expected to see.
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>>> 
>>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited)
>>>> with value as a person.
>>> 
>>> Who says he inherited it?
>> 
>> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
>> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put the
>> money into the stock market.
> 
> No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.

He did not earn it... he got a big lump sum and did not handle it as well as
putting it into the stock market. How can anyone twist this to say he is a
good business man? When?

> One, as a 
> general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and priviledges
> because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book on making the
> deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.

She has written books, too. And he likely had a ghost writer.
 
>> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
> 
> Oh, his casinos for one.

How is that evidence? Having money to buy / make casinos... I do not see it.

> And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
> He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.

And has lead to many being unemployed!

> These people don't have
> money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways to get
> people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
> And this scares the cabal pretty bad.

How do you think he will get people back to work?

> Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most of
> the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something that
> the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased what
> is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be imminent.  I
> hope not.

We have many rich people in the US.

>>>>> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it.
>>>>> For the
>>>>> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses.
>>>>> Always wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.
>>>> 
>>>> I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
>>>> president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the country,
>>>> no plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.
>>> 
>>> How so?
>> 
>> His lack of plans. He has none. When he tries to talk about them he
>> changes from one telling to the next. Look at his wall -- how tall does he
>> want it to be and how much will it cost? Just look at what HE says.
> 
> OH, he has plans all-right.  He wants to get rid of NAFTA, GATT, and TPP if
> it passes. 

OK, those I can accept. But will he?

> These will bring back the work to the U.S. where goods can again
> say "Made in America".

As he makes things in China and Mexico?

> He is saying that these deals are stupid deals that
> weren't even thought out correctly.  I say these deals were done by design a
> long time ago to bring the U.S. to third world status.

We are not at third world status.

> That way we can all have a unified world government... but only one major
> problem... who is going to be in charge?
> That's the scary part.
> 
>> He has no clue.
> 
> Oh, he knows what is going on.
> 
>> 
>>>>>> As far as Mensa... I am the only one I know who has found errors on
>>>>>> their tests. My 8th grade math teacher was big on Mensa and gave us
>>>>>> some of their tests... and they were flawed. Have a lot of friends in
>>>>>> Mensa... do not see the value other than to brag.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would have me.
>>>>> It boils down to good old fashioned common sense... and trump has
>>>>> plenty of that.
>>>> 
>>>> If so he hides it well!
>>> 
>>> How so?
>> 
>> Where does he show ANY common sense? On what issue?
>>  
> 
> Economics for one.
> Immigration for another.
> 
>>>>> Obama just keeps putting this country deeper in debt.
>>>> 
>>>> What makes you think that?
>>> 
>>> The latest $2trillion debt increase.
>> 
>> Did you see the image at the link?
> 
> Uh, which link?
> 
>> 
>>>> <https://goo.gl/EQa0AK>
>>>> 
>>>>> But if trump makes it into the WH, all he has to do is repudiate that
>>>>> debt and
>>>>> tell the central banks to take a hike.
>>>> 
>>>> He would be in so far over his head we would be in BIG trouble... but
>>>> thankfully his chance of getting to the White House is slim. Sadly
>>>> Clinton's chances are high, and she is no better.
>>> 
>>> Only because the banking cabal is already out for his blood.  They are
>>> very afraid of him.  Going back to the gold standard would eliminate the
>>> banking cabal for good.  I remember that my grandfather around 1900 got
>>> a $4,000 home loan from the Bank of Congress with no interest at all,
>>> just a $30 filing fee.  Paid it back in 5 years.  Now that sounds more
>>> sane than what the bankers want from you.
>> 
>> The banks are not the ones voting... but, sure, they will fund Clinton.
>> And she will benefit from fraud if needed.
> 
> More than benefit.  They profit from chaos and wars the most.
> 
>> 
>>> Besides, did you know that the banking system, the Federal Reserve, is
>>> an offshore foreign bank?
>> 
>> I know the system is absurd.
>> 
> It sure is and we are the slaves to their system.
> 



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#366767

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-25 12:39 -0600
Message-ID<npne19$2l2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366612
Snit wrote:

> On 8/24/16, 8:14 PM, in article nplnqa$ni6$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
>>> One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites are
>>> not news sites.
>> 
>> Sure they are.  At least journalism is alive at these sites while the MSM
>> aren't doing journalism anymore... just parrots talking the line.
> 
> I expected you to try to push that. I made a video of my going to the
> sites:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/dbhYCvVUe_M>

Odd, this doesn't open.

> 
> These sites do not even begin to pass the sniff test. They are click bait
> for people who are not paying attention.

That's the preprogrammed biases instilled in people before they finally wake 
up.

> 
>>> Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and
>>> other nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.
>> 
>> So?  Go to NBCs site and you'll see worse.
> 
> The MSM is bad... but, no, you will not see worse than THAT. It is no
> better of a source than the Onion. Really.

I don't like NBC either.

> 
>>> Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic which
>>> is absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to the
>>> topic of repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.
>> 
>> It seems that way till you try to vet them for accuracy.  Then that's
>> when the truth starts landing home.
> 
> Vet what for accuracy? 

The news media that you want to vet for accuracy.

> The absurdity of their "logic"? They do not even
> try to make a coherent argument.

Which ones, the alternative or main stream?

> 
>>> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
>>> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.
>> 
>> He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.
> 
> That is just silly. They made no moves toward it... remember, gun sales
> went up. Almost surely gun production went up. Not down.
> 

Yes, because the public didn't like what they were doing or insinuating and 
purchased guns for their own protection.  Obama today is the biggest gun 
salesman ever to trod the earth.

> The idea they are trying to repeal the second amendment is absurd... and
> even if they did the courts would shoot it down in 10 seconds. It is
> mindless fear mongering to rally conservatives. Not worth consideration.
> 

Hilliary has already been quoted as saying just that.

>> George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now
>> hoping to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial law.
> 
> Again, not even worth consideration.

But you should consider it.  Why would he even spend a dime on these people 
if there wasn't some ulterior motive?

> 
>> It is a possibility to consider.
> 
> No, not really.
> 
>> It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to disarm his citizens.
> 
> No, that actually happened!

That's what I said.

> 
> If anything the closest we have to a Hitler in this country right now is
> Trump with his blame on the minorities and weak. And his followers believe
> that nonsense!

Hardly.  Obama wants all of the people disarmed.

> 
>>>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have
>>>>> moved FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that
>>>>> area is amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at a
>>>>> pace I never expected to see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited)
>>>>> with value as a person.
>>>> 
>>>> Who says he inherited it?
>>> 
>>> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
>>> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put the
>>> money into the stock market.
>> 
>> No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.
> 
> He did not earn it... he got a big lump sum and did not handle it as well
> as putting it into the stock market. How can anyone twist this to say he
> is a good business man? When?

Got a cite for this?

> 
>> One, as a
>> general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and
>> priviledges
>> because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book on making
>> the
>> deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.
> 
> She has written books, too. And he likely had a ghost writer.
>  
>>> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
>> 
>> Oh, his casinos for one.
> 
> How is that evidence? Having money to buy / make casinos... I do not see
> it.

Well, he did.  You do know what casinos are for, don't you?
People go there for entertainment, but if no one has any money to spend 
there, it impacts his business, hence I figure why he is running for 
president... just my suspicions.

> 
>> And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
>> He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.
> 
> And has lead to many being unemployed!

Yes, by Obamas policies.

> 
>> These people don't have
>> money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways to
>> get people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
>> And this scares the cabal pretty bad.
> 
> How do you think he will get people back to work?

Easy, be renegotiating GATT, NAFTA, and finding out what is in TPP.

A big question here tho, is why is TPP classified as TOP SECRET?

> 
>> Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most of
>> the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something
>> that
>> the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased
>> what
>> is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be imminent. 
>> I hope not.
> 
> We have many rich people in the US.

Yes, we do.  Tax them too much and they will go live somewhere else.
Believe me they will.

> 
>>>>>> People just don't like his style and style has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>> For the
>>>>>> most part, todays people are nothing more than a bunch of wusses.
>>>>>> Always wanting everthing on a silver plater without working for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dislike his style and his substance. He has NO qualifications to be
>>>>> president. No leadership skills, no plans on how to improve the
>>>>> country, no plans on helping our foreign policy. He is just lost.
>>>> 
>>>> How so?
>>> 
>>> His lack of plans. He has none. When he tries to talk about them he
>>> changes from one telling to the next. Look at his wall -- how tall does
>>> he want it to be and how much will it cost? Just look at what HE says.
>> 
>> OH, he has plans all-right.  He wants to get rid of NAFTA, GATT, and TPP
>> if it passes.
> 
> OK, those I can accept. But will he?

That remains to be seen.  I also have a problem with both of these 
candidates.  Remember, that Trump gave funds earlier in this century to the 
Clintons, yet, and this is where one has to make a decision, "did they plan 
this in advance to put up a big smoke screen to bring in the New World 
Order?"  You know, good cop/bad cop stuff?

> 
>> These will bring back the work to the U.S. where goods can again
>> say "Made in America".
> 
> As he makes things in China and Mexico?

That's due to the laws currently on the books that really shouldn't be there 
due to NAFTA and GATT.
That's why Ford MoCo wants to move to Mexico because it is costing them too 
much to make cars here due to too many regulations.

> 
>> He is saying that these deals are stupid deals that
>> weren't even thought out correctly.  I say these deals were done by
>> design a long time ago to bring the U.S. to third world status.
> 
> We are not at third world status.
But getting very close.

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#366782

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-25 12:07 -0700
Message-ID<D3E48FE4.7A1ED%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366767
On 8/25/16, 11:39 AM, in article npne19$2l2$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 8/24/16, 8:14 PM, in article nplnqa$ni6$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>> One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites are
>>>> not news sites.
>>> 
>>> Sure they are.  At least journalism is alive at these sites while the MSM
>>> aren't doing journalism anymore... just parrots talking the line.
>> 
>> I expected you to try to push that. I made a video of my going to the
>> sites:
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/dbhYCvVUe_M>
> 
> Odd, this doesn't open.

Does for me... but here is the bigger link:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhYCvVUe_M>

>> These sites do not even begin to pass the sniff test. They are click bait
>> for people who are not paying attention.
> 
> That's the preprogrammed biases instilled in people before they finally wake
> up.

Preprogrammed bias to want content designed to be read?

>>>> Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and
>>>> other nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.
>>> 
>>> So?  Go to NBCs site and you'll see worse.
>> 
>> The MSM is bad... but, no, you will not see worse than THAT. It is no
>> better of a source than the Onion. Really.
> 
> I don't like NBC either.

All of the MSM is imperfect, but that does not imply using the Onion or the
like should be deemed better.

>>>> Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic which
>>>> is absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to the
>>>> topic of repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.
>>> 
>>> It seems that way till you try to vet them for accuracy.  Then that's
>>> when the truth starts landing home.
>> 
>> Vet what for accuracy?
> 
> The news media that you want to vet for accuracy.

PBS/NPR is the most accurate and their viewers are the most informed... but
even they are imperfect. Not sure what you are looking for.

>> The absurdity of their "logic"? They do not even
>> try to make a coherent argument.
> 
> Which ones, the alternative or main stream?

The sites you pointed to... they have click bait headlines they do not even
try to support.

>>>> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
>>>> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.
>>> 
>>> He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.
>> 
>> That is just silly. They made no moves toward it... remember, gun sales
>> went up. Almost surely gun production went up. Not down.
> 
> Yes, because the public didn't like what they were doing or insinuating and
> purchased guns for their own protection.  Obama today is the biggest gun
> salesman ever to trod the earth.

The idea Obama is trying but did not accomplish it is mindless speculation
with no support. 

>> The idea they are trying to repeal the second amendment is absurd... and
>> even if they did the courts would shoot it down in 10 seconds. It is
>> mindless fear mongering to rally conservatives. Not worth consideration.
> 
> Hilliary has already been quoted as saying just that.

Would love to see the video! But, of course, no such video exists.

Remember, I think Clinton is horrid and do not back her in any way...

>>> George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now
>>> hoping to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial law.
>> 
>> Again, not even worth consideration.
> 
> But you should consider it.  Why would he even spend a dime on these people
> if there wasn't some ulterior motive?

Why would he spend a dime on "these people"? What do you even mean by that?

>>> It is a possibility to consider.
>> 
>> No, not really.
>> 
>>> It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to disarm his citizens.
>> 
>> No, that actually happened!
> 
> That's what I said.
> 
>> 
>> If anything the closest we have to a Hitler in this country right now is
>> Trump with his blame on the minorities and weak. And his followers believe
>> that nonsense!
> 
> Hardly.  Obama wants all of the people disarmed.

No evidence of that... but Trump focusing on the poor and weak can be seen
in his own speeches. He focuses on immigrants and the poor... working to
fool people into thinking those with the least power cause the problems
brought on by those with the most power.

Hitler did much the same... though so have many others. It is, in general,
a common tactic among conservatives to control the masses into voting
against their own best interests.

>>>>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>>>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>>>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>>>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have
>>>>>> moved FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that
>>>>>> area is amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at a
>>>>>> pace I never expected to see.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he inherited)
>>>>>> with value as a person.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who says he inherited it?
>>>> 
>>>> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
>>>> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put the
>>>> money into the stock market.
>>> 
>>> No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.
>> 
>> He did not earn it... he got a big lump sum and did not handle it as well
>> as putting it into the stock market. How can anyone twist this to say he
>> is a good business man? When?
> 
> Got a cite for this?

<http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/>
    -----
    Donald Trump would be richer if he'd have invested in index funds

    Trump¹s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion
    since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the
    real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just
    invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested
    in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13
    billion.

    The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

    Other billionaires¹ net worths have beaten the stock market¹s
    growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow
    increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet¹s wealth
    grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.

    Another recent Associated Press report found that Trump is a much
    more cautious businessman than he lets on. ³He holds few stocks
    for someone of his wealth and has grown increasingly dependent on
    making money by lending out his name to others rather than
    developing real estate himself,² the AP wrote.
    -----

>>> One, as a
>>> general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and
>>> priviledges
>>> because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book on making
>>> the
>>> deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.
>> 
>> She has written books, too. And he likely had a ghost writer.
>>  
>>>> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
>>> 
>>> Oh, his casinos for one.
>> 
>> How is that evidence? Having money to buy / make casinos... I do not see
>> it.
> 
> Well, he did.  You do know what casinos are for, don't you?
> People go there for entertainment, but if no one has any money to spend
> there, it impacts his business, hence I figure why he is running for
> president... just my suspicions.

So anyone with a big business is qualified?

>>> And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
>>> He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.
>> 
>> And has lead to many being unemployed!
> 
> Yes, by Obamas policies.

Obama has done far too little in dealing with the biggest economic problem,
income inequality (the break of hard work / productivity being tied to
economic gain) but in most other areas he has done well. Still, doing well
in other areas and not in the biggie is not great.

My "candidate" Hildo Clump has an image showing this... but Wordpress.com
seems down now.

>>> These people don't have
>>> money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways to
>>> get people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
>>> And this scares the cabal pretty bad.
>> 
>> How do you think he will get people back to work?
> 
> Easy, be renegotiating GATT, NAFTA, and finding out what is in TPP.
> 
> A big question here tho, is why is TPP classified as TOP SECRET?

And why does Clinton back it. Yeah, I do not think these things are good...
and the more I learn about them the less I like them.

>>> Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most of
>>> the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something that
>>> the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased what
>>> is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be imminent. I
>>> hope not.
>>> 
>> We have many rich people in the US.
> 
> Yes, we do.  Tax them too much and they will go live somewhere else.
> Believe me they will.

We should not be held hostage to them saying if they have to pay their fair
taxes they will leave. That is nonsense. No more socialism for the rich.

...


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#366893

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-25 17:44 -0600
Message-ID<npnvst$hu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366782
Snit wrote:

> On 8/25/16, 11:39 AM, in article npne19$2l2$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
>> Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/24/16, 8:14 PM, in article nplnqa$ni6$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>>> One: we might as well look at the Onion for information. Those sites
>>>>> are not news sites.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure they are.  At least journalism is alive at these sites while the
>>>> MSM aren't doing journalism anymore... just parrots talking the line.
>>> 
>>> I expected you to try to push that. I made a video of my going to the
>>> sites:
>>> 
>>> <https://youtu.be/dbhYCvVUe_M>
>> 
>> Odd, this doesn't open.
> 
> Does for me... but here is the bigger link:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhYCvVUe_M>
> 

It just says loading but nothing happens here.
Strange.

>>> These sites do not even begin to pass the sniff test. They are click
>>> bait for people who are not paying attention.
>> 
>> That's the preprogrammed biases instilled in people before they finally
>> wake up.
> 
> Preprogrammed bias to want content designed to be read?

That's the problem.  Designed!  Can also be just propaganda.

> 
>>>>> Two: both sites are click-bait sites. They have so much movement and
>>>>> other nonsense as to be unusable and unreadable.
>>>> 
>>>> So?  Go to NBCs site and you'll see worse.
>>> 
>>> The MSM is bad... but, no, you will not see worse than THAT. It is no
>>> better of a source than the Onion. Really.
>> 
>> I don't like NBC either.
> 
> All of the MSM is imperfect, but that does not imply using the Onion or
> the like should be deemed better.

But more likely closer to the truth.
I've never used the Onion tho.

> 
>>>>> Three: they make claim they do not even try to back... using logic
>>>>> which is absurd. Background checks, for example, are not even close to
>>>>> the topic of repealing the second amendment. It is just nonsense.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems that way till you try to vet them for accuracy.  Then that's
>>>> when the truth starts landing home.
>>> 
>>> Vet what for accuracy?
>> 
>> The news media that you want to vet for accuracy.
> 
> PBS/NPR is the most accurate and their viewers are the most informed...
> but even they are imperfect. Not sure what you are looking for.
> 

They don't.  Remember, they are supported by government funding, hence the 
skewing of the truth or omission of the truth.  Things have to be held in 
proper context to get the real truth, and most of the time they don't.

>>> The absurdity of their "logic"? They do not even
>>> try to make a coherent argument.
>> 
>> Which ones, the alternative or main stream?
> 
> The sites you pointed to... they have click bait headlines they do not
> even try to support.

Oh, that stuff.  The article is down below the click bait.  They have to 
make a living somehow.
But the click bait has nothing to do with the actual article.  I never 
bother the click bait.  Sometimes a site won't come up because their click-
bait website isn't responding... that stuff comes first.

> 
>>>>> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
>>>>> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.
>>>> 
>>>> He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.
>>> 
>>> That is just silly. They made no moves toward it... remember, gun sales
>>> went up. Almost surely gun production went up. Not down.
>> 
>> Yes, because the public didn't like what they were doing or insinuating
>> and
>> purchased guns for their own protection.  Obama today is the biggest gun
>> salesman ever to trod the earth.
> 
> The idea Obama is trying but did not accomplish it is mindless speculation
> with no support.

Too many false flag shootings have happened since he's been in office.  It's 
his pattern and M.O.

> 
>>> The idea they are trying to repeal the second amendment is absurd... and
>>> even if they did the courts would shoot it down in 10 seconds. It is
>>> mindless fear mongering to rally conservatives. Not worth consideration.
>> 
>> Hilliary has already been quoted as saying just that.
> 
> Would love to see the video! But, of course, no such video exists.
> 

No, no videos yet.

> Remember, I think Clinton is horrid and do not back her in any way...
> 

I know.  Neither do I.

>>>> George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now
>>>> hoping to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial
>>>> law.
>>> 
>>> Again, not even worth consideration.
>> 
>> But you should consider it.  Why would he even spend a dime on these
>> people if there wasn't some ulterior motive?
> 
> Why would he spend a dime on "these people"? What do you even mean by
> that?

His funding of Black Lives matter is one of them he's funded.
He's also funded violent protesters at Trump rallies.
Soros has a lot to lose if Trump gets in.

> 
>>>> It is a possibility to consider.
>>> 
>>> No, not really.
>>> 
>>>> It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to disarm his citizens.
>>> 
>>> No, that actually happened!
>> 
>> That's what I said.
>> 
>>> 
>>> If anything the closest we have to a Hitler in this country right now is
>>> Trump with his blame on the minorities and weak. And his followers
>>> believe that nonsense!
>> 
>> Hardly.  Obama wants all of the people disarmed.
> 
> No evidence of that... but Trump focusing on the poor and weak can be seen
> in his own speeches. He focuses on immigrants and the poor... working to
> fool people into thinking those with the least power cause the problems
> brought on by those with the most power.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/obama-to-gun-owners-im-not-looking-to-disarm-
you/

And of course he lies a lot, just like Hillary.
I remember him campainging for his Obama care saying "You can keep your 
doctor, you get to keep your insurance".  Which didn't turn out that way.  A 
lot of people who had insurance policies were canceled.
That's why Trump wants to tear it down and just let the people decide for 
themselves.  Most out of work people have no money to buy insurance, but 
when they get work again, they then can afford to buy health insurance.

> 
> Hitler did much the same... though so have many others. It is, in general,
> a common tactic among conservatives to control the masses into voting
> against their own best interests.

You mean the liberals do this.  Conservatives don't, but then even they are 
against trump.  To me it looks like two sides of the same coin.

> 
>>>>>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>>>>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>>>>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>>>>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have
>>>>>>> moved FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that
>>>>>>> area is amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at
>>>>>>> a pace I never expected to see.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he
>>>>>>> inherited) with value as a person.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who says he inherited it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
>>>>> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put
>>>>> the money into the stock market.
>>>> 
>>>> No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.
>>> 
>>> He did not earn it... he got a big lump sum and did not handle it as
>>> well as putting it into the stock market. How can anyone twist this to
>>> say he is a good business man? When?
>> 
>> Got a cite for this?
> 
> <http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/>
>     -----
>     Donald Trump would be richer if he'd have invested in index funds
> 

Yes, but says nothing of his father giving it to him.
Yes, he could've been richer.

>     Trump¹s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion
>     since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the
>     real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just
>     invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested
>     in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13
>     billion.
> 
>     The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.
> 
>     Other billionaires¹ net worths have beaten the stock market¹s
>     growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow
>     increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet¹s wealth
>     grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.
> 
>     Another recent Associated Press report found that Trump is a much
>     more cautious businessman than he lets on. ³He holds few stocks
>     for someone of his wealth and has grown increasingly dependent on
>     making money by lending out his name to others rather than
>     developing real estate himself,² the AP wrote.
>     -----
> 
>>>> One, as a
>>>> general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and
>>>> priviledges
>>>> because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book on making
>>>> the
>>>> deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.
>>> 
>>> She has written books, too. And he likely had a ghost writer.
>>>  
>>>>> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, his casinos for one.
>>> 
>>> How is that evidence? Having money to buy / make casinos... I do not see
>>> it.
>> 
>> Well, he did.  You do know what casinos are for, don't you?
>> People go there for entertainment, but if no one has any money to spend
>> there, it impacts his business, hence I figure why he is running for
>> president... just my suspicions.
> 
> So anyone with a big business is qualified?

Not really, it is just that he is defending his business.  And the only way 
to that is to become president to turn the economy around so that people can 
get back to work to earn money, hence to spend it at his casinos.

> 
>>>> And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
>>>> He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.
>>> 
>>> And has lead to many being unemployed!
>> 
>> Yes, by Obamas policies.
> 
> Obama has done far too little in dealing with the biggest economic
> problem, income inequality (the break of hard work / productivity being
> tied to economic gain) but in most other areas he has done well. Still,
> doing well in other areas and not in the biggie is not great.

To look at what has happened here is that the grocery store clerks and 
workers used to get around $18 / hour.  Now they are at $10 / hour due to 
greed.  And it gives them less spending power.  All due to the greed of the 
bankers.
Stores have to have a line of credit... from the banks, to do business.  It 
is the banks that set the rules.

> 
> My "candidate" Hildo Clump has an image showing this... but Wordpress.com
> seems down now.
> 
>>>> These people don't have
>>>> money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways
>>>> to get people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
>>>> And this scares the cabal pretty bad.
>>> 
>>> How do you think he will get people back to work?
>> 
>> Easy, be renegotiating GATT, NAFTA, and finding out what is in TPP.
>> 
>> A big question here tho, is why is TPP classified as TOP SECRET?
> 
> And why does Clinton back it. Yeah, I do not think these things are
> good... and the more I learn about them the less I like them.
> 
>>>> Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most
>>>> of
>>>> the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something
>>>> that
>>>> the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased
>>>> what is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be
>>>> imminent. I hope not.
>>>> 
>>> We have many rich people in the US.
>> 
>> Yes, we do.  Tax them too much and they will go live somewhere else.
>> Believe me they will.
> 
> We should not be held hostage to them saying if they have to pay their
> fair taxes they will leave. That is nonsense. No more socialism for the
> rich.

No one should pay any taxes.  This is a hold over from the start of the 
Federal Reserve system.  Before, it was just imposts, duties and tariffs and 
no one paid any taxes at all.

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#366913

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-08-25 18:17 -0700
Message-ID<D3E4E6C0.7A2EF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#366893
On 8/25/16, 4:44 PM, in article npnvst$hu$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

...
>>>> I expected you to try to push that. I made a video of my going to the
>>>> sites:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://youtu.be/dbhYCvVUe_M>
>>> 
>>> Odd, this doesn't open.
>> 
>> Does for me... but here is the bigger link:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhYCvVUe_M>
> 
> It just says loading but nothing happens here.
> Strange.

Try a different browser?

>>>> These sites do not even begin to pass the sniff test. They are click
>>>> bait for people who are not paying attention.
>>> 
>>> That's the preprogrammed biases instilled in people before they finally
>>> wake up.
>> 
>> Preprogrammed bias to want content designed to be read?
> 
> That's the problem.  Designed!  Can also be just propaganda.

What I am noting is the sites are designed to not be read.

... 
>>> The news media that you want to vet for accuracy.
>> 
>> PBS/NPR is the most accurate and their viewers are the most informed...
>> but even they are imperfect. Not sure what you are looking for.
> 
> They don't.  Remember, they are supported by government funding, hence the
> skewing of the truth or omission of the truth.  Things have to be held in
> proper context to get the real truth, and most of the time they don't.

Repeatedly they are found to be the most accurate with the best informed
readers.

>>>> The absurdity of their "logic"? They do not even
>>>> try to make a coherent argument.
>>> 
>>> Which ones, the alternative or main stream?
>> 
>> The sites you pointed to... they have click bait headlines they do not
>> even try to support.
> 
> Oh, that stuff.  The article is down below the click bait.  They have to
> make a living somehow.

Try a different browser and watch the video I made. Yes, even more
legitimate sources are getting pretty bad with videos that scroll things up
and down, but they are not THAT bad.

> But the click bait has nothing to do with the actual article.

The article IS click bait.

> I never bother the click bait.  Sometimes a site won't come up because their
> click- bait website isn't responding... that stuff comes first.
> 
>> 
>>>>>> Four: They have been making this absurd claim since Clinton 1. It is
>>>>>> absurd beyond believe. Fear mongering nonsense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He and she just didn't have enough time to accomplish is all.
>>>> 
>>>> That is just silly. They made no moves toward it... remember, gun sales
>>>> went up. Almost surely gun production went up. Not down.
>>> 
>>> Yes, because the public didn't like what they were doing or insinuating
>>> and
>>> purchased guns for their own protection.  Obama today is the biggest gun
>>> salesman ever to trod the earth.
>> 
>> The idea Obama is trying but did not accomplish it is mindless speculation
>> with no support.
> 
> Too many false flag shootings have happened since he's been in office.  It's
> his pattern and M.O.

Lots of unsupported accusations.

>> 
>>>> The idea they are trying to repeal the second amendment is absurd... and
>>>> even if they did the courts would shoot it down in 10 seconds. It is
>>>> mindless fear mongering to rally conservatives. Not worth consideration.
>>> 
>>> Hilliary has already been quoted as saying just that.
>> 
>> Would love to see the video! But, of course, no such video exists.
>> 
> 
> No, no videos yet.

Then how do you know?

>> Remember, I think Clinton is horrid and do not back her in any way...
>> 
> 
> I know.  Neither do I.
> 
>>>>> George Soros is funding all the hate crimes in this country right now
>>>>> hoping to cause a race war so that maybe Obama can bring out martial
>>>>> law.
>>>> 
>>>> Again, not even worth consideration.
>>> 
>>> But you should consider it.  Why would he even spend a dime on these
>>> people if there wasn't some ulterior motive?
>> 
>> Why would he spend a dime on "these people"? What do you even mean by
>> that?
> 
> His funding of Black Lives matter is one of them he's funded.

I have no problem with him doing so.

> He's also funded violent protesters at Trump rallies.

If that is true it is troubling. Evidence?

> Soros has a lot to lose if Trump gets in.
> 
>> 
>>>>> It is a possibility to consider.
>>>> 
>>>> No, not really.
>>>> 
>>>>> It's the same ruse that Hitler used in Germany to disarm his citizens.
>>>> 
>>>> No, that actually happened!
>>> 
>>> That's what I said.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If anything the closest we have to a Hitler in this country right now is
>>>> Trump with his blame on the minorities and weak. And his followers
>>>> believe that nonsense!
>>> 
>>> Hardly.  Obama wants all of the people disarmed.
>> 
>> No evidence of that... but Trump focusing on the poor and weak can be seen
>> in his own speeches. He focuses on immigrants and the poor... working to
>> fool people into thinking those with the least power cause the problems
>> brought on by those with the most power.
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/obama-to-gun-owners-im-not-looking-to-disarm-
> you/
> 
> And of course he lies a lot, just like Hillary.
> I remember him campainging for his Obama care saying "You can keep your
> doctor, you get to keep your insurance".  Which didn't turn out that way.

Right. And he was called on it... that is something only the insurance
companies can control, not defined in ObamaCare at all. He should not have
said you could when the law did not control it.

Even worse, though not as bad as some say, he said you could keep your plan.
If you had a low end plan that was not always the case -- though really
still up to the insurance companies.

> A 
> lot of people who had insurance policies were canceled.
> That's why Trump wants to tear it down and just let the people decide for
> themselves.  Most out of work people have no money to buy insurance, but
> when they get work again, they then can afford to buy health insurance.

Single payer. Get rid of insurance companies completely. No reason to have
any business based on NOT providing health insurance.

>> 
>> Hitler did much the same... though so have many others. It is, in general,
>> a common tactic among conservatives to control the masses into voting
>> against their own best interests.
> 
> You mean the liberals do this.

Nope. Conservatives tend to point to the weak and poor and immigrants and
blame problems on them... the very people who lack the power to cause
problems in the first place.

And, now, I am not saying nobody in those groups does wrong to others, but
they do not have the mass power of the rich.

> Conservatives don't, but then even they are
> against trump.  To me it looks like two sides of the same coin.
> 
>> 
>>>>>>>> At the same time I do not worship it... we should
>>>>>>>> follow it but also accept that we improve over time. That is what
>>>>>>>> amendments are for. At the time of the founding only rich, white men
>>>>>>>> could vote (or were guaranteed to be able to). Since then we have
>>>>>>>> moved FAR forward in equal rights. The level of improvement in that
>>>>>>>> area is amazing... and has continued even over the last few years at
>>>>>>>> a pace I never expected to see.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> As an former Mensan, I don't give a shit about either their IQs.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't expect a Nobel Prize out of the president.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I want them to be reasonably intelligent.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Trump is very intelligent.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Evidence? I think a lot of people confuse wealth (which he
>>>>>>>> inherited) with value as a person.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Who says he inherited it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Inheritance or gift from his dad... either way, though, he was given
>>>>>> everything and then did less well than he would have had he just put
>>>>>> the money into the stock market.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, he didn't inherit from his father any of these things.
>>>> 
>>>> He did not earn it... he got a big lump sum and did not handle it as
>>>> well as putting it into the stock market. How can anyone twist this to
>>>> say he is a good business man? When?
>>> 
>>> Got a cite for this?
>> 
>> <http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/>
>>     -----
>>     Donald Trump would be richer if he'd have invested in index funds
> 
> Yes, but says nothing of his father giving it to him.
> Yes, he could've been richer.

He inherited his father's real estate business, I believe. But wherever he
got his money it was NOT from his own hard work. He got it and grow it
POORLY. Read somewhere that even Paris Hilton has done a better job growing
her money.

>>     Trump¹s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion
>>     since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the
>>     real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just
>>     invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested
>>     in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13
>>     billion.
>> 
>>     The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.
>> 
>>     Other billionaires¹ net worths have beaten the stock market¹s
>>     growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow
>>     increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet¹s wealth
>>     grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.
>> 
>>     Another recent Associated Press report found that Trump is a much
>>     more cautious businessman than he lets on. ³He holds few stocks
>>     for someone of his wealth and has grown increasingly dependent on
>>     making money by lending out his name to others rather than
>>     developing real estate himself,² the AP wrote.
>>     -----
>> 
>>>>> One, as a general rule of thumb, being a mason gives one special rank and
>>>>> priviledges because you've been proven worthy.  Trump even wrote the book
>>>>> on making the deal.  I don't see anything anywhere near that from Hillary.
>>>>> 
>>>> She has written books, too. And he likely had a ghost writer.
>>>> 
>>>>>> So where is the evidence of his great business skills?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, his casinos for one.
>>>>> 
>>>> How is that evidence? Having money to buy / make casinos... I do not see
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>> Well, he did.  You do know what casinos are for, don't you? People go there
>>> for entertainment, but if no one has any money to spend there, it impacts
>>> his business, hence I figure why he is running for president... just my
>>> suspicions.
>>> 
>> So anyone with a big business is qualified?
> 
> Not really, it is just that he is defending his business.  And the only way
> to that is to become president to turn the economy around so that people can
> get back to work to earn money, hence to spend it at his casinos.

Is that not true for ANYONE with a big business. Or small?

>>>>> And this is my case for him wanting to be president.
>>>>> He knows that there are a lot of unemployed people.
>>>> 
>>>> And has lead to many being unemployed!
>>> 
>>> Yes, by Obamas policies.
>> 
>> Obama has done far too little in dealing with the biggest economic
>> problem, income inequality (the break of hard work / productivity being
>> tied to economic gain) but in most other areas he has done well. Still,
>> doing well in other areas and not in the biggie is not great.
> 
> To look at what has happened here is that the grocery store clerks and
> workers used to get around $18 / hour.  Now they are at $10 / hour due to
> greed.  And it gives them less spending power.  All due to the greed of the
> bankers.
> Stores have to have a line of credit... from the banks, to do business.  It
> is the banks that set the rules.

We should have a high minimum wage... means more sales / demand which means
more production which means more jobs.

>> 
>> My "candidate" Hildo Clump has an image showing this... but Wordpress.com
>> seems down now.
>> 
>>>>> These people don't have
>>>>> money and they sure won't spend it at his casinos.  So, he finds ways
>>>>> to get people back to work, ergo, start spending money at his casinos.
>>>>> And this scares the cabal pretty bad.
>>>> 
>>>> How do you think he will get people back to work?
>>> 
>>> Easy, be renegotiating GATT, NAFTA, and finding out what is in TPP.
>>> 
>>> A big question here tho, is why is TPP classified as TOP SECRET?
>> 
>> And why does Clinton back it. Yeah, I do not think these things are
>> good... and the more I learn about them the less I like them.
>> 
>>>>> Otherwise, he may just file bankruptcy and leave the country like most
>>>>> of
>>>>> the rich are doing today.  Apparently the rich already know something
>>>>> that
>>>>> the average man on the street doesn't know.  Some have even purchased
>>>>> what is known as bug-out shelters figuring a race war will soon be
>>>>> imminent. I hope not.
>>>>> 
>>>> We have many rich people in the US.
>>> 
>>> Yes, we do.  Tax them too much and they will go live somewhere else.
>>> Believe me they will.
>> 
>> We should not be held hostage to them saying if they have to pay their
>> fair taxes they will leave. That is nonsense. No more socialism for the
>> rich.
> 
> No one should pay any taxes.  This is a hold over from the start of the
> Federal Reserve system.  Before, it was just imposts, duties and tariffs and
> no one paid any taxes at all.

No taxes means no military or any other government. They are a necessary
evil.

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#366423

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-08-23 20:07 -0400
Message-ID<npiog1$m0n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366412
On 8/23/2016 6:31 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> As an former Mensan,

heh!


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#366433

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-24 01:02 +0000
Message-ID<glaof983.kiu@perch.invalid>
In reply to#366423
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/2016 6:31 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> 
>> As an former Mensan,
> 
> heh!
> 

Boy, shut the hell up.  If I need your opinion, I'll beat
it out of you.
 

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#366472

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-08-24 09:59 -0400
Message-ID<npk98d$slt$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366433
On 8/23/2016 9:02 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 8/23/2016 6:31 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>
>>> As an former Mensan,
>>
>> heh!
>
> Boy, shut the hell up.


This self-nuke ranks right up there with turdv's classic "I'm so much 
smarter than you that's we are barely the same species." and Gohde's 
classic "I'm a gensius."

shitv, GodHesDumb and Octavian together?  Now that's an exclusive club.




> If I need your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.

You Mensans... you're real wankers... I mean badasses... you're real 
badasses.  That's it!  And don't you forget it.

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#366477

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-24 14:25 +0000
Message-ID<hjgad82.afk8@perch.invalid>
In reply to#366472
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 8/23/2016 9:02 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/23/2016 6:31 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>>
>>>> As an former Mensan,
>>>
>>> heh!
>>
>> Boy, shut the hell up.
> 
> 
> This self-nuke ranks right up there with turdv's classic "I'm so much 
> smarter than you that's we are barely the same species." and Gohde's 
> classic "I'm a gensius."
> 
> shitv, GodHesDumb and Octavian together?  Now that's an exclusive club.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> If I need your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.
> 
> You Mensans... you're real wankers... I mean badasses... you're real 
> badasses.  That's it!  And don't you forget it.
> 

Damn, that ate at you all night.  lol.
You and Ted Cruz.  Peas in a pod.

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#366482

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
Message-ID<npkcmr$aht$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#366477
On 8/24/2016 10:25 AM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 8/23/2016 9:02 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/23/2016 6:31 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As an former Mensan,
>>>>
>>>> heh!
>>>
>>> Boy, shut the hell up.
>>
>>
>> This self-nuke ranks right up there with turdv's classic "I'm so much
>> smarter than you that's we are barely the same species." and Gohde's
>> classic "I'm a gensius."
>>
>> shitv, GodHesDumb and Octavian together?  Now that's an exclusive club.


One curses badly, one smells badly, and one votes badly.




>>> If I need your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.
>>
>> You Mensans... you're real wankers... I mean badasses... you're real
>> badasses.  That's it!  And don't you forget it.
>>
>
> Damn, that ate at you all night.  lol.
> You and Ted Cruz.  Peas in a pod.


Peas in an pod.



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